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Killer
08-11-2004, 03:17 PM
I wanna be nominated intro police killer.
Turn off your computer and go outside.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/akakiller56/3-5-2.jpg
Richie
08-11-2004, 03:28 PM
Pretty much.
Although I do remember a simpler HAMB when a guy named Jason was the first to tear into a new guy.
But, in all honesty THAT was entertaining.
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I nominate....ummm...Killer.
Is that what you needed?
Tim
MBL
Tudor
08-11-2004, 03:36 PM
saweeet
Killer
08-11-2004, 03:38 PM
it was fun. And (mostly) done tongue in cheek. If you took the lashing and gave some back, we laughed.. it was good.
Not anymore... I never did an intro??
MBL.. your a smart assed little cocksucker aint ya?
slazzen
08-11-2004, 03:39 PM
YEAH kill the INTRO POLICE you got my vote
If 5'8" qualifies as little....then kinda.
Tim
MBL
Killer
08-11-2004, 03:46 PM
well.. you only got an inch on me then...
So yeah, you're little.
Fessin up to that cocksucker thing though huh?!
See how that worked fellas??? I made a funny. Timmy here made a funny... I made another funny.
Nobodies vagina started to bleed...
Imagine that.
Unkl Ian
08-11-2004, 03:46 PM
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... I never did an intro??
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I remember you introducing yourself as Killer. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
tinyelvis
08-11-2004, 03:50 PM
Killer you're not fooling anyone w/that photoshop of you in a cool car.. everyone here knows you're a scenester! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Killer
08-11-2004, 03:53 PM
ohhh.. that's not me.
I'm far better looking than that guy.
I often catch myself looking in the mirror and saying...
"damn! I'm gonna do you later!"
I crack myself up sometimes..
saltflataddict
08-11-2004, 03:53 PM
"I never did an intro??", I didnt either.. at least I dont think I did.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Mass Butcher
08-11-2004, 03:58 PM
It is unfortunate that some newbies get bashed the way they do. No one deserves to get verbally abused, but I see why some might get frustrated with the "intro". Any message board I've ever been on I usually watch and learn a little before jumping right in, so as not to offend anyone(at least right away http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif). I understand some intros are a bit ignorant, and maybe some have just cause for a degree of critisism. I am by far a PC type of person, and I'm not after a kinder gentler world. I think the degree of bashing could be lessoned, but to an extent, maybe some is warranted to help keep out the spam and maybe people who aren't into vehicles that fit the board. The HAMB is a nice closeknit group of people that all share the same passion, without the bullshit you find on other boards, and maybe, just maybe without the "intro police" that might slowly get compromised. Just a random thought
Ok, I'm done rambling.(gotta stop drinking at work http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif )
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If 5'8" qualifies as little....then kinda.
Tim
MBL
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Any shorter is a Midget isn't it? Killer? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I vote Yay for Killer being the ONLY intro police!
(Since he won't be bothered with that stupid shit unless he feels like doing it for the entertainment.)
Killer
08-11-2004, 04:02 PM
NO!!! It's 4 foot 7 inches to legally be a midget.
I checked.
jalopy43
08-11-2004, 04:04 PM
I second that devotion!!!!Glenn
You're still upset that Aaron Von Deluxe is no longer around...or is he?
And don't let the Little Man Complex eat at you...just punch the bigger guy in the dick, and once more as he's going down (something you should be used to!).
I can fit in my model T and being much bigger....I wouldn't...plus I can buy jeans that would be normal length for most but have the ability to make huge cuffs and be super traditional and rockabilly....so there...ask repoguy...he'll tell ya.
tim
MBL
Kustom55
08-11-2004, 04:11 PM
That thing has come a long way killer...looking really nice....
Man I don't think the police have been near as bad as they have been in the past. I don't mind them much. I think something needs to be said when all you get is "I'm cool buy stuff from me" Just a personal observation. I've always lurked a bit before jumping in, kinda test the waters...
4t64rd
08-11-2004, 04:18 PM
I'll vouch for ya Tim, Tim's cuffs are indeed, huge.
He's the perfect size for a HAMBer.
Now I don't even know what I'm talking about... THIS IS TECH WEEK DAMMIT!!!!
WHY ARE WE EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION!
Well hold on a minute...I don't want this getting out of controll...just for the record I don't eat the cock! Yes I am short...I don't want all of you hot rodders lining up at the shows....I don't want everyone thinking that I put the MBL in NAMBLA or anything...so...short yes...cocksucker no....thats the "kinda part"
Thanks
Tim
MBL
Smokin Joe
08-11-2004, 04:28 PM
Didn't recognize you without the leather flyer's helmet and goggles. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
slazzen
08-11-2004, 04:29 PM
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The HAMB is a nice closeknit group of people
[/ QUOTE ] In case you havent noticed we are almost 6000 members. One of the largest message boards in the world!!! The bashing of newbies has become redundant!!! And a waste of good space !!!!
Killer
08-11-2004, 04:38 PM
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THIS IS TECH WEEK DAMMIT!!!!
WHY ARE WE EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION!
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Hey genius, thanks for bringing this to my attention.
On topic, off topic, tech week... who the fuck cares??
7 years on this gawddamn thing.. I can't voice my opinion??
The people who post here is why this fuckin message board even exists. If no one posted, Ryan could have a normal life and quit being a babysitter!
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just for the record I don't eat the cock!
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Timmy my man, THAT was funny!
So are sentences without punctuation or capitalization!
There, how's that for Oldbie Bashing?
REDDOG
08-11-2004, 04:43 PM
i think the whole getting bashed for not doing an into is gay, a lot of guys on here talk a lot of smack behind the key board that wouldnt do so other wise
just my 2 cents worth
Mass Butcher
08-11-2004, 04:46 PM
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case you havent noticed we are almost 7000 members one of the largest message boards in the world the bashing of newbies has become redundant and a waste of good space
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5223 members to be exact, and I never said anything about size, although size does matter http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Richie
08-11-2004, 05:10 PM
Damn it Jas...er...Killer....7 years and you still have an inch on me.
I never should have shaved my head.....I'm that much shorter now.
Is "oldbie" a word?
I guess you journalist types would know.
Oh!...and ....yeah....NAMBLA.....THERE"s an acronym I should have looked into before I got the bumpersticker.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
redpunk
08-11-2004, 05:11 PM
Nice...
Flat Ernie
08-11-2004, 05:21 PM
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No one deserves to get verbally abused, but I see why some might get frustrated with the "intro". Any message board I've ever been on I usually watch and learn a little before jumping right in, so as not to offend anyone(at least right away ). I understand some intros are a bit ignorant, and maybe some have just cause for a degree of critisism. I am by far a PC type of person, and I'm not after a kinder gentler world. I think the degree of bashing could be lessoned, but to an extent, maybe some is warranted to help keep out the spam and maybe people who aren't into vehicles that fit the board. The HAMB is a nice closeknit group of people that all share the same passion, without the bullshit you find on other boards, and maybe, just maybe without the "intro police" that might slowly get compromised. Just a random thought Ok, I'm done rambling.
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Dude - what side of the fence are you waffling on? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Mass Butcher
08-11-2004, 05:25 PM
Both actually. I see the need for some policing, just maybe not to the extreme some take it. Not much on putting words down and getting my point across, but pretty good with sticking my foot in my mouth
FrameDragger
08-11-2004, 05:29 PM
This post is getting old http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Smokin Joe
08-11-2004, 05:46 PM
Without a little intro hazing I'm afraid tech week would be full of posts on installing top fuel wings on Hondas or how to keep from getting bubblezz under your windshield stickerz. The traditional base would be overwhelmed by the masses floundering in the internet surf.
Kinda like what we've got now anyway.
You know that it is hot out there in Hesperia Hell when Killer takes his swampy ass into the house and playes on the computer... Get your full-foot-taller-than-a-legal-midget-ass back out in the garage and get to work. HOMO!
The Anarkist
08-11-2004, 07:36 PM
I didn't do an intro cause I have nothing worthwhile to say. And after recently literally "going broke" I'm also carless!!! I just figured people'd think I was a poser or something, even though I've been addicted (and passing it on to my daughters!!) to anything with wheels on it all my life!!!
I couldn't care a less what others think (as far as an intro).Seems like some people only use it as an opportunity to attack. I DO see a lot of decent people on here though and when I get something worthwhile on the road again I'll post it. til then, thanks for being here. blah blah blah. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I'll shut up until then.
Psychobilly Boi
08-11-2004, 08:06 PM
F'ck The Police.
One thing thats wierd is eveyone uses the "Garage" metaphor when refering to the hamb. No garage I've ever visited nessesitated a lengthy biographical statement before saying hello or asking a question. Who knows how many decent rodders we have turned away from the HAMB or even rodding in general by comming accross as ass holes.
I was lucky, the first rodder I met was a really ace guy - had he been the arrogant assholes I've met since I can say for a fact I wouldnt be a rodder.
Danny
Roothawg
08-11-2004, 08:16 PM
Ya know it's gettin bad when Jason/Killer starts a rant....... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
4t64rd
08-11-2004, 08:40 PM
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7 years on this gawddamn thing.. I can't voice my opinion??
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What's the subject line of this post? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Ryan doesn't want newbies flamed, I think I'll oblige. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Killer
08-11-2004, 08:50 PM
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What's the subject line of this post? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Oh no he didn't!
I am the koolist (thats some o dat rockerbilly lingo... see the k??) mofo on here!
Don't forget either.
It's hotter than the devils drawers...
Kojack
08-11-2004, 08:50 PM
We need another VDO thread.
**DONOTDELETE**
08-11-2004, 09:20 PM
I will use any reason to post this, ANY
Sam F.
08-11-2004, 09:24 PM
id hadnt realized its already been 7 years since Al Gore invented the internet! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif who's Killer???? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Richie
08-11-2004, 09:44 PM
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who's Killer???? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Butt you know....he's the guy who just LOVES rocker-billy. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
4t64rd
08-11-2004, 09:58 PM
Killer is hotter than the devils drawers after a big bowl of Texas chili http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
**DONOTDELETE**
08-11-2004, 11:24 PM
I'm looking for the spot for old school HAMB types that has something other than uninteresting intros to read. 9 out of 10 newbies never return after their intro/classified combo meal and I have NEVER felt compelled to read ANYTHING that says "intro" or "new guy". Big F-ing deal. May sound crass, but that's life on the big internet.
Then again I don't post much cause I don't got nuthin' good (or interesting) to say http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
And apparently your new bosses aren't cool with you making an ass of yourself on my board... or so they tell me! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Every year it gets bigger and every year people tell me I won't be able to hang on much longer. Technically, this is my 9th year of this stuff - I know what I am doing and have a plan for everything. The HAMB will be fine as long as the traffic doesn't spike too much too quickly.
As for newbies, I ignore them.
hotrodladycrusr
08-12-2004, 12:11 AM
and all along I thought Killer was an old guy http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
The Anarkist
08-12-2004, 12:13 AM
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I will use any reason to post this, ANY
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Cute family. You must be proud. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Killer
08-12-2004, 01:24 AM
hey! I AM old!
31 is old... right?? huh??? yeah?!?!!!
daddyo54
08-12-2004, 01:26 AM
Shit just post some more burnout pics! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
slazzen
08-12-2004, 01:34 AM
its a easy fix its been done on other boards a seperate section for intros thats what they have on the underground chopper board no drama there just awsome tech and help
Steve
08-12-2004, 01:49 AM
the newbies these days don't get hazed. Shit people used to get tore a new one. It was all in good fun and when they realized it they laughed it off. heck the stuff that happens today is like childs play. I read the new guy intros why? cause I like to know what people are driving what they are working on. maybe thats just me. recently though there are to many to keep track.
bobbleed
08-12-2004, 01:59 AM
Fuck Intros.
I never made an intro.
I wanna see an update on Fugly.........
Did anyone ever teach that Aaron guy to change his oil?
Steve
08-12-2004, 02:21 AM
no he used the pump remeber cause he stripedthe drain plug and did something so he couldn't get it out again
What is this Hamb senior citizens week?
Killer, Doc J, Steve, Ritchie and that Ryan guy all posting on the same thread?? I just got a goosebump............. Never mind it was a pimple on my ass http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Drewfus
08-12-2004, 03:46 AM
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What is this Hamb senior citizens week?
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TECHnically no (all puns intended) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Cheers,
Drewfus
McPhail
08-12-2004, 05:41 AM
I thought Aaron drove somewhere and took my suggestion to put a bullet to use...... or was that someone else who was depressed that Aaron drove off?.......I remember who was here when Jason and I traded jabs and Ryan broke it up.......hot rod deluxe was kool.......god damn the TLC channel for driving up the price of T coupes and Boat wheels........Ryan was just a punk and the board was a new thing......RF was a lurker.......I'm so old school I've been forgotten........thank god that Robert Williams invented the rat rod....and primered roadsters..........thanks Jason, I've missed the old board.......
hey! I AM old!
31 is old... right?? huh??? yeah?!?!!!
I got kids older'n you! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
haring
08-12-2004, 09:30 AM
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As for newbies, I ignore them.
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hehe http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
FORDOLE500
08-12-2004, 09:32 AM
killer, i am sure glad you can make me laugh 12,000 miles away. it makes me feel at home....only no one is speaking english... oh and they dress wierd and listen tô techno, but other than that right at home.
Richie
08-12-2004, 10:27 AM
Zeke is this STILL about you and your ass?!?!
McPhail who?
I never did an intro either.....and no one cares.
I did get a kick out of every intro being immediately followed by an apology.
I'll give it my best Ted Kennedy voice "I'm sorry.."
Steve
08-12-2004, 11:48 AM
Zeke they have medicine for that kinda thing.
Dammit killer you got an inch on me but you know what they say size doesn't matter or something like that.
JimA what happened to the old jimA?? aka redondorodder.
Dennis, don't bring up the "olden" days...I'll bust out my secret photos of your bidness-in-the-front, party-in-the-back mug (with mustache!)...with but one single tattoo!
As for Jason, he'll always be the HAMB-hoto poster boy.
FONZI
08-12-2004, 12:28 PM
Hey at least there are no more Photo Shoped Penis Pics! That is an improvement from the old HAMB!
FONZI
Gracie
08-12-2004, 12:32 PM
Hey... I LIKED the penis pics!
Steve
08-12-2004, 12:39 PM
or bad ass knuckle tattoos.....
You'd think Aaron was Bill Clinton the way you goddamnassholes rag on him...
Him without sin cast stones.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
STODD
08-12-2004, 05:29 PM
Hey, can I post in this thread or am I still to new and a "douche" as so many liked to call me. If I show you all my tattoo's will you all think I am cool enough to hang around...or should I continue to guage all the wisdom coming from this thread? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Richie
08-12-2004, 05:53 PM
Ya know Doc is kind of right (as always).
I mean, I can't see making a "scene" of a lifestyle/hobby, whatever but Aaron DID have his own magazine.
More than I can say I guess.
Shit...I feel a "kinder gentleness" coming on.
As for you Douche, you won't get anywhere on this board (because we all know being cool on a computer is EVERYONE's ultimate goal) until you've passed Zeke's "house of Pain" initiation test.
I won't get into all the details but it involves a french maid outfit, swim fins and a mining helmet.
I won't even get into what YOU have to wear.
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FrameDragger
08-12-2004, 06:01 PM
Dude... I have more respect for people when they can take their lumps, lick their wounds quickly, and then prove they belong by turning around and contributing... I think about 23 posts is max... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
CURIOUS RASH
08-12-2004, 06:35 PM
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Dude... I have more respect for people when they can take their lumps, lick their wounds quickly, and then prove they belong by turning around and contributing... I think about 23 posts is max... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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YUP.
STOSS,
I'm not bashing on you here or anything, just a little info for you to consider, that's all.
You are not the first to join the HAMB all bristled up with attitude and talking smack.
Nor will you be the last.
I can say that few who start out like you have last very long.
My advice to you, assuming that you actually want to ADD to the HAMB, would be that you sit back and read a while.
I've said it before, "There's only so much room for smart asses here, and I needs me some elbow room!"
Your new friend,
RASHY </font>
**DONOTDELETE**
08-12-2004, 07:06 PM
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JimA what happened to the old jimA?? aka redondorodder.
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He didn't know when to stop- he was permanently retired http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
STODD
08-12-2004, 07:19 PM
It's all good. Some have already found out and you guys will too, I'm just a dude that was turned on to this site by a friend. I get on the net for fun and maybe, make a friend or two. I joke around almost all the time.
Those that have personalized my posts from my brash beginnings are digging way too deep on their meanings. I believe in representing myself as I truly am. I'm a smartass that means absolutely no harm.
Yeah, I could climb up on the cross and justify every post response I've made but, really, what good is that? I have been net aware for almost ten years now and changing how I am for a bunch of guys that won't stop to think that maybe I'm just one of those guys that jokes around alot is sorta stupid.
Don't like something I post or wonder if I'm really a dick, ask me and I'll be totaly honest.
And "lumps" are for people trying to fit in. I'm going to be the same person I am - accepted or not. Real friendships are earned over time, not over someone's first posts and I know you all know that.
Perhaps some of you(only if the shoe fits, ok) should lighten up and give some people a break. It wouldn't hurt you, you know.
Someone mentioned I should contribute. I will. I'm still watching tech threads to see where I might fit in. Bull shitting(socializing) is something anyone can do but getting in a tech thread with the wrong advise is not. I want to make sure if I contribute to some one's knowledge, I'm giving them the right info. I hate getting the wrong directions to do something...
So, take anything I may say with a grain of salt because a message board isn't reality and people are just having fun.
I have now switched off the "pc" button on my machine and brashness shall return.
Better yet, shut off the machine completely.
4t64rd
08-13-2004, 12:45 AM
C'mon, he made nice!
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DIRTYT
08-13-2004, 01:09 AM
all i know is never get drunk and make a post about being a bananna. you get a nice email from ryan saying u fuck up again your gone. haha i think there should be some kinda of "hazing" but yea latly some have gotten preety nuts. but most of all this has been said. ill just let all the OG HAMB settle this one.
Steve
08-13-2004, 01:41 AM
hazing lately knutzz?? ahaha you missed the old days. I wish someone had some of those saved.
jima we need the old jima to come outta retirement
STODD
08-13-2004, 08:05 AM
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Better yet, shut off the machine completely.
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I do. Everyday.
Here's the deal:
Most people that use the internet, use it for fun or connections - a tool, if you will. Some use it for an escape. That's great. Better typing to people than watching the idiot box for hours at a time. Some of these folks that use the computer and net as an escape, don't realize that this is not real life.
What you are reading are just words on a screen, nothing more. Getting all bent out of shape because someone types something you don't like is a terrible waste of energy.
If you wanna have fun and flame someone, cool but realize some flame back. Sometimes, they do it just get a rise out of folks because it's absorbing their boredom.I know you all know this but I feel inclined to give a little reminder. I'll be done quick. So, If ya go to break someone's chops and they break right back, don't get upset.
And if you do, I'm sorry you feel the need to get angry at words on your monitor.
***This public service message has been brought to you by someone who knows better***
CherryBlossom
08-13-2004, 08:39 AM
[quote Some of these folks that use the computer and net as an escape, don't realize that this is not real life.
What you are reading are just words on a screen, nothing more. Getting all bent out of shape because someone types something you don't like is a terrible waste of energy.
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I see your point, but by the same token, in all acuality, it IS "real life". It exists in real time. I've met MANY people from the HAMB over the last couple years....so when I talk to them on here, you're saying it's not real? LOL. Ok http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I can understand the "don't get your panties in a wad over being flamed", because yes, it's just words and 90% of the people that flame on this board, WOULDN'T do it face to face, due to lack of balls...has nothing to do with this being REAL or not...
That lame excuse of it not being "real life" ran out in the 90's when dating people met online became all the rage...
Try telling Ryan this isn't real life - he pays for most of it and spends countless hours keeping it up for us to enjoy.
STODD
08-13-2004, 08:58 AM
Point taken.
I do know of Ryan's investment. I've been co-owner of two websites and put more hours into them than I would have ever agreed to had I known exactly what I was getting into.
Please, in this thread, take all my posts together. This is a conversation.
I did say this:
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...I'm just a dude that was turned on to this site by a friend. I get on the net for fun and maybe, make a friend or two. I joke around almost all the time.
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Friendships are real but a flame is not. And as far as I can tell, this is a hot rod site not a dating service so my statement still qualifies.
Every time you post on this board it costs me money... I don't like paying for "flames" - I like paying for teaching and learning.
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