I do not want to drive a Honda civic

[steevil]

How very depressing.

It's kind of tough starting out in the world of rodding, particularly when you're young and have no money.

I found a neat car waaaaaaaay out of my budget and hit the bank for a loan.

Well the bank didn't laugh at me right away but the "debt to earning ratio" was not particularly favorable.

I've decided that the reason I never see any "younger" people with cool rods is that by the time they have saved enough money or spent enough time to buy/build anything cool, they are rapidily approaching thier golden years.

I don't want to spend the next 20 years of my life eating dog food so that I can save up enough to finally be able to afford a slick ride.

I don't want to spend the next 20 years twisting wrenches and missing out on birthdays and barbeques because I'm trying to get my rusted junk roadworthy.

I want to spend my days driving it and attending car shows and talking to other car nuts.

I want to drive it to and from work and not just twice a year because I am so petrified that the car I spent $80000 to build could be wiped out by an errant Chevette driver blowing a red light.

Yeah, I know, real hot rods are built not bought but even a Rat Rod is waaaaaay out of my budget. Any cool vintage iron commands HUGE dollars from greedy collectors leaving regular joes like me sucking wind.

No wonder kids these days are tricking out Honda civics and Toyotas.

Even joe farmer with a rusting hulk rotting away in the north 40 wants a zilliion dollars for anything remotely desirable since it's been pounded into his head that hot rods are rare and people are willling to pay the price!

I got into this hobby because I LOVE CARS!

What I don't love is being ripped off or taken for a sucker because my love for the hobby outweighs any common sense I may have had before I fell in love with hotrodding.

The whole movement was started by a bunch of poor, broke schmucks that wanted a cool, fast car but had no money so they built them out of junkyard parts.

I guess until I win the lottery, I will drive my decidedly un-cool 1989 Ford Taurus and wonder if the commaraderie I used to feel with my fellow street-rodders stops at the bottom line.

[MattB]

First of all, there are probably only 2 or 3 cars on this entire site that cost "$80k" to build. Second, look in the classified, there's plenty of decent iron available for less than "a zillion dollars." I mean, if your dream ride is a '32 Ford 3 window, you might be a little out of luck being able to afford it, but you have to be realistic. I can't afford crap, but there are TONS of cool rides that you can build for $2k or less. That's about my budget there. Hell, I'm probbaly going with a friend of mine this weekend to take a roadtrip to pickup a running '63 suicide door Continental for $1650. Yes it's ratty, but what do you expect?! It's still COOLER THAN A CIVIC! Hell, one of my favorite cars on here is K & R's '65 Olds, I guarantee he doesn't have $2k in that whole car, and once again, it's 10 times cooler than a Civic, has cheaper insurance, inspection stickers, and is probably twice as safe. Just what exactly are you bitching about? It's not that hard or expensive to buy a running 50's/60's car and drive the shit out of it. Maybe you just need to be more creative?!

[jalopy43]

I am sorry my friend,if you are feeling so depressed,because you can't afford "a slick ride" A lot of us missed those bbq's and parties,'cause we were working on our "rusted junk" Yes a lot of us'paid our dues',and are now reaping the benifits in "our golden years" sonny. However, there ARE quite a few younger people,who are out there working minimal-pay jobs AND building some pretty impressive rides! Hard work, some sacrifice,and a willingness to listen,and learn,from us OG's will get you far! Talk and listen to some of the guys in your area,most are eager to take a young interested enthusiast under thier wing,and help you get a "trad" ride started. Attitude will get you everywhere,my friend. And if you don't want to drive a civic, then don't!!!You will soon lean that "a zillion dollars",isn't what you REALLY NEED! Oh, welcome to the HAMB,and stop whinning!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Glenn

[G Griffin]

So why are you selling this 1958 Ford Custom 300 in the classifieds?

[dadseh]

Steevil
You poor thing! Theres only a couple of categories in this sport pal, those that build and the gold chainers.
Take some advice, for every kid like you there are 10 other kids that do have a few dollars stashed from working their ass off and driving Hondas to buy a daily driver that means something. Hotrodding has many different opportunities , ways and means to an end.
When I was a kid growing up in Southern Ontario in the 60's my hero was the old guy who lived up the street( actually, now that I think of it he must have been all of 24). In my eyes he drove the coolest cars,started with a early 50s chev
next time I saw it he had it polished a gleaming, then a coat of paint... moved on to 55 / 6 /7 Chev's in that order.
Each of them was bog standard when he got it and he worked on em at weekends , lowered , v8 , hot wheels etc.
TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT HE WAS BUYIN AND SELLING with a bit of value adding at home. HE WORKED UP TO LATER MODEL CARS AND FINALLY A NEAR NEW VETTE.
I'll bet his total outlay in 5 years was less than a 1/4 of the cost of the vette. HE WAS SMART, HE NEW WHAT HE WANTED AND GOT OFF HIS ASS.
The world doesnt owe you a RODDING life pal, take some advice, buy that Honda, love it ,polish it and sell it for a profit.
Along the way you will find that being at rod shows isnt half as much fun as the time spent in the shed working on yer driver, if you think barbeques and birthdays are more important than building cars... take up golf.
Think yourself lucky you live in a land littered with cars I would kill for over here in the land of OZ.

[BARNETT]

Yes, first of all...why all the griping when you seem to be selling a more than decent ride?!?!

Second...how do think the rest of us got our cars, trucks, bikes, vans, etc.?! Either accept the fact that you have to make certain sacrifices in life to get what you want, or keep driving the Civic. Buying a car means you work lots of hours to pay for someone elses work. Building a car means you have to put in lots of time hunting for parts and putting them together. Either way...you're gonna miss some of the fun stuff while you're working or building. It's just the way it is, unless you have a trust fund or something. Some of us even have to work lots of hours AND build the thing ourselves.
Third...there are so many freakin cars out there, that are decent, for less than $5,000!! The key is to be flexible with what you're willing to own...work your way up to your dream ride...very few of us start out with our dream ride. Hell, I'm not driving my #1 choice of vehicles, but I have just as much fun, if not MORE, than anybody else!

Maybe you're just coming across wrong, but that might be the whiniest post I've seen in a while. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[helrzr1]

Yer profile says you have a 58 ford. What is wrong with that? As for not wanting to miss out on bbq's etc. That comes with the territory. I drive a POS mazda 323 with rattle can flames to work everyday with people laughing as hard as I do... No I dont have a new truck either. 87 Shortbed chevy. Come to think of it, every thing I have is JUNK to a banker's eyes. But, I have a 31 ford coupe in the 'building' stages and a 48 chevy fleetline in original form. I didnt get them from driving or buying NEW cars or looking thru the deals-on-wheels and dreamin. I fix what I got. Buy whats cheap, sell for more, and keep my goals. And for now, I have almost everything I want. And I am 30. It wasnt easy. If its out of my budget I SAVE UP. Or I build it.
Dare to be differnt!! Fix that 58 up. Its kinda rare, if you dont want it someone else will. The more effort you put into it the more you will get out of it. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[MattB]

After looking at the link in your post up top, I'm thinking to myself, just what exactly are you bitching about? You look like you are no more than in your mid 20's, and you have a jacked-up '94 Ranger that you go mudding in, the '58 Ford you want $6500 Canadian for, and the "uncool" '89 Taurus you speak of that you want us to feel sorry for you driving is an SHO! It looks like it has a ton of aftermarket stuff and nice wheels as well. Just going off what I'm seeing from YOUR website, you look to be out having fun, and have 3 pretty damn decent vehicles to do it in. Just what the hell are you expecting by now, some LA Roadster show winning '32?? Jeez dude, go bark up someone elses tree, it looks to me like you are doing mighty fine!

[Artiki]

Tell you what, sell the Ranger and sink the cash into the '58. Problem solved. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[JohnnyB327]

dont they have swap meets up there in canada? Go there and i bet ya could find 75% of what ya need to get a car runnin at a decent price just put some labor into it and youll get somethin cool.

johnny

[haring]

Steevil,

Dude, you need a better job. Sell out. It's not too late.

And stop your whining. You sound like a real putz.

Your pal,
don

[BuickinaBucket]

I don't wanna hear it man... I put an ad in the local "Shopper" newspaper and scored a rolling T chassis for $900 complete with 9 inch rear and brakes. Add a running $500 425 nailhead (with trans) and a whole bunch of sifting through swap meets and junk yards and I now have about 80% of a BAD ASS little hot rod. Hoping to have it at the Showdown next year.

Anyone can do it with determination... I just wish I had started sooner!

(I was 24 when I started... now 26)

[swazzie]

Whatever .Your websight looks like it cost money , trucks cost money , 58 ford 300s cost money , custom 17 inch SHO wheels for a taurus cost money. What are you crying about .You have a garage .Alot of the guys here don't even have that , they build their shit on the ground or in lean tos or storage spaces , scrounging salvage yards to find parts and enlisting the help of their friends , hosting bbqs throwing build parties and generaly busting their asses for what they have . don't you have to do that ? Sounds like your missing more than you have listed @&*@@%%%%&@ .Nice 58 . seeya . swaZZie

[burger]

[ QUOTE ]
Dude, you need a better job. Sell out. It's not too late.

And stop your whining. You sound like a real putz.

[/ QUOTE ]

Haring you are hilarious.


(PS- This thread is lame.)

[cosmo]

At first, I thought this guy might have something, as older cars are getting scarcer, and a little pricey.
BUT, after reading that he has three cars, of which I could afford NONE, I realised that he IS just a putz.

Christ, Steevil, take a step back and LOOK at what you have, then STOP WHINING.You have more money in the WHEELS of your Ford than I have in MY CARS (both of them, together).
Now run out and get a life, there's a good boy...

Cosmo

[Deuce Rails]

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So why are you selling this 1958 Ford Custom 300 in the classifieds?

[/ QUOTE ]

No shit.

What are you bitching about when you've got this?

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/404000-404999/404943_29_full.jpg
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[luketrash]

I think what you're finding out Mr. Steevil is that the bank is HAPPY to toss you into a NEW car that you can't afford, but they get super skittish about old iron that they don't have reposession stats on.

The BANK hates you! They want you to falter, hit you with late fees, reposess your ricer and auction it off for profit. They don't have the ability to do it with old cars.

As far as this hobby goes, I have told myself this is a cash money hobby, NO CREDIT. If I ever need to use a credit line for this hobby, I'm doing something horribly wrong.

It's all about priorities though. My neighbor has a ~30k vtwin bike, and eats TV dinner on his Goodwilled couch, watching his 13" black & white TV. Where there's a will, there's a way (he's probably got the stupid bike financed though)

You're still young and impatient (I suffer from this myself)

Young people WANT everything NOW, and worry about paying for it LATER.. Bad formula to run on.. Cash and carry means a lot less stress (and money spent) down the road.

Your rant about people selling cars way too high, and then posting up yours for 4 times what I paid for mine is kinda funny...

If you want a really nice old car and you don't have deep pockets, you gotta build it yourself. If you look at most of the people in really nice BOUGHT rides, they are old dudes with a lot of bank saved up. I'm guessing in most cases their windfall didn't happen overnight either.

You're young and probably have 80 years ahead of you (well 60 with the Canadian healthcare system) so just be patient and work with what you got already!

Forego fancy clothes, xbox, cigarettes, lotto tickets, and you're already gonna be a millionaire by 40.

Just my opinion.

PS: DRIVE THAT DAMN CHEVY.. I'd LOVE to have something that nice, present day.

[steevil]

thanks for listening to me bitch guys. Yeah I guess I sound like a whiner.

I just got royally screwed on a deal to buy a different ride.

It wouldn't have been a big deal had I not been decieved in the first place.

I guess I am generalizing after a bad experience that cost me time and money.

thanks for the reality check, I'll try to keep my bellyaching in check in the future.

[jalopy43]

Hang in there dude,whatever don't kill ya just makes you stronger.You are a real man for admiting to whining,and we respect you for that.We will help you all we can.Viva LA Hamb!! Glenn

[hankcash]

What's this all aboot.. eh?
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
HC

[Tony Bones]

Yeah, that's all great. Now answer the questions people asked you about why you're complaining when you have the '58.

[ QUOTE ]
thanks for listening to me bitch guys. Yeah I guess I sound like a whiner.

I just got royally screwed on a deal to buy a different ride.

It wouldn't have been a big deal had I not been decieved in the first place.

I guess I am generalizing after a bad experience that cost me time and money.

thanks for the reality check, I'll try to keep my bellyaching in check in the future.

[/ QUOTE ]

[FONZI]

I remember thinking like you. Shit, I am still in a hurry. What these other guys are telling you is true. However I think there is a grey area between the guys who build their cars and "gold chainers" or whatever. Let's face it we all want ot be master car builders, but if it was that easy then we would all be doing it and the talents that some of these respected builders have wouldn't be such a big deal. I by no means built my whole car. I do everything that I have the ability to do myself and the rest....I PAY someone with more knowledge/talent/tools than I have. I am not ashamed of that. Shit it is actually TRADITIONAL. Look in the little pages, tons of the cars weren't owner built at all or the owners did some of the stuff themselves and then had guys like Barris, and Cerney do the stuff they couldn't do.

I would encourage you to continue learing and wrenching. Someday you may be able to build your own hot rod or custom from start to finsih. But you gotta take it in steps. I know very few younger rodders that have the ability to build their dream from start to finish or have the cash to have someone else do it. So, they compromise and start out with cars that are NOT their dream cars. THey work on em, learn from them, and as they gain more knowledge (and better paying jobs), they move on to other cars always getting closer to their dream car! Hang in there. Funny thing is I had a red 59 ford when i was like 18 or 19 and I remember bitching about it not being the ride I wanted and all my friends gave me shit cuz it was a lot cooler than their mom's mini vans.

FONZI

[Django]

You've got to be fucking kidding me. That 58 is such a piece of shit. So is the SHO. And that ratty assed fucking ranger? That is definitely the shittiest $8000 truck I have seen in a long time.

No smilie.

[Muttley]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/whocares6.jpg

Quit bitching.

[OldCarPilot]

Like HC said... What the hell is this post about? His first post is selling a car, his second is bitching about how you can't have a car for less than a ton of money?

[Carps]

[ QUOTE ]
How very depressing.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, readin this post kinda depresssed me too. Then I figured what the heck, I may as well jump in and reply anyhow.

[ QUOTE ]
It's kind of tough starting out in the world of rodding, particularly when you're young and have no money.

[/ QUOTE ]No different today than it was when I started and I figure when my old man started, likewise his old man and so on back thru history. That's life dude, live with it or slash your wrists.

[ QUOTE ]
I found a neat car waaaaaaaay out of my budget and hit the bank for a loan.

[/ QUOTE ]I've seen a heap of those in my lifetime. But Y'know what? There's nuthin in this world that I've really, badly desired, that I've not been able to get, just takes hard work, dedication and perseverence.

[ QUOTE ]
Well the bank didn't laugh at me right away but the "debt to earning ratio" was not particularly favorable.

[/ QUOTE ]So did you really expect a bank or any other financial institution to lend you money, knowing in advance that you don't earn enough to pay it back?

[ QUOTE ]
I've decided that the reason I never see any "younger" people with cool rods is that by the time they have saved enough money or spent enough time to buy/build anything cool, they are rapidily approaching thier golden years.

[/ QUOTE ]
I know quite a few very young fellas who own some of the nicest, and better built, even big bux, high zoot hot rods in the land. Likewise, I know a bunch of young fellas who own some of the coolest rattiest old shitters in the land. Both groups got 'em the same way and both groups are equally proud of what they have. See my second paragraph above to learn how they do it.

[ QUOTE ]
I don't want to spend the next 20 years of my life eating dog food so that I can save up enough to finally be able to afford a slick ride.

[/ QUOTE ]
I've never eaten dog food, what's it taste like? On the other hand, I have made more than a few sacrifices in order to move forward and earn the money to buy things I've desired.

[ QUOTE ]
I don't want to spend the next 20 years twisting wrenches and missing out on birthdays and barbeques because I'm trying to get my rusted junk roadworthy.

[/ QUOTE ]
Ummmm, now I'm confused. You want to be a hot rodder but you don't want to do the things a hot rodder does? Most of us have been twisting wrenches for a lifetime and will continue to do so until the day we die. As far as missing birthdays and BBQs goes, being a hot rodder has nothing to do with that, being a dickhead is what causes people to miss these things. One of life's more important rules; "All work no play makes Jack a dull boy." Work hard, party harder, you'll be amazed how good your life will become.

[ QUOTE ]
I want to spend my days driving it and attending car shows and talking to other car nuts.

[/ QUOTE ]Don't we all? However, following on from my previous comment, there's a little thing called balance, not to mention the ability to fund such a lifestyle. You'll never get the respect of the bank manager if all you have to show for your life is that you attend car shows. Life rule number 2 is; "Variety is the spice of life." Remember those birthday parties and BBQ's you missed? Life doesn't hafata be all car related, coz there's more to life than just cars. For example, I never had a car give me great sex.

[ QUOTE ]
I want to drive it to and from work and not just twice a year because I am so petrified that the car I spent $80000 to build could be wiped out by an errant Chevette driver blowing a red light.

[/ QUOTE ]Work hard enough and you'll be able to drive a car costing more than double that amount and with not a worry in the world. Trust me, I know. ;-)

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, I know, real hot rods are built not bought but even a Rat Rod is waaaaaay out of my budget.

[/ QUOTE ]You must be living in a different world to the rest of us, some rodders are builders, others are buyers. We are all individuals, that's a big part of what makes it fun and interesting.

[ QUOTE ]
Any cool vintage iron commands HUGE dollars from greedy collectors leaving regular joes like me sucking wind.



[/ QUOTE ]Another bullshyte myth that also depends what you call cool. I regularly see neat stuff passed up by people too lazy to work at making something from a less than perfect or pristine basic car. Old cars are dirt cheap to buy but of course the cheaper ones require will require a bit more effort and yes maybe a few dollars as well. There's nuthin in this world or any other that I know, comes to you for nuthin. Even winning the lottery requires you to get off your arse and invest in a ticket!

[ QUOTE ]
No wonder kids these days are tricking out Honda civics and Toyotas.

[/ QUOTE ] They are doing that because they work hard, earn good money and can afford to invest in whatever they like. Sure as hell aint because it's cheap!

[ QUOTE ]
Even joe farmer with a rusting hulk rotting away in the north 40 wants a zilliion dollars for anything remotely desirable since it's been pounded into his head that hot rods are rare and people are willling to pay the price!

[/ QUOTE ]I'm off on Sunday to drag home a perfectly good, almost mint '67 Dodge from behind 'Joe farmer's' shed. Price? The princley sum of $100.00. The stuff is out there all you've gotta do is look for it, and yes that also means making a bit of an effort.

[ QUOTE ]
I got into this hobby because I LOVE CARS!

[/ QUOTE ]Me too, and I've stayed in it because I love the people even more than the cars. Why do I love the people? Because they come from all walks of life and are probably the most interesting and eclectic group of humans on planet earth. There's wealthy people and not so wealthy, blue collar and white collar, they have some crazy and interesting additional hobies and are generally just straight up great fun to be around. Best of all, there's very few pretenders, the genuine hot rodder appreciates how hard the other guy worked for what he has and more importantly doesn't whine about somebody else having something that's out of his reach. The genuine hot rodder works hard at his own stuff, encourages his pals to do likewise and chips in to help when he's needed. I could go on, but I think (hope) you get the picture.

[ QUOTE ]
What I don't love is being ripped off or taken for a sucker because my love for the hobby outweighs any common sense I may have had before I fell in love with hotrodding.

[/ QUOTE ]Love of the hobby should never outweigh common sense. Getting ripped of is often as much the fault of the person being ripped as it is, the mongrel doing the ripping. Very few hot rodders get ripped off by other hot rodders. Good thing is, other rodders are easy to spot, coz we all speak the same language, the crooks tend to stand out after a very short while. Don't believe that? Just check back through the archives here on the H.A.M.B. to see the proof.

[ QUOTE ]
The whole movement was started by a bunch of poor, broke schmucks that wanted a cool, fast car but had no money so they built them out of junkyard parts.

[/ QUOTE ]Nope, the movement was started by the same type of people who are involved today. They came from all walks of life and all had different bank ballances.

[ QUOTE ]
I guess until I win the lottery,

[/ QUOTE ]You won't win the lottery by whingeing about it. You gota get off your arse and make the effort to buy a ticket. And if you are relying on that in order to improve your lot in life, then I'd be inclined to think it's never going to happen. Fact is, none of the worlds wealthiest people made their fortunes by winning the lottery. Best I can tell and it's backed by my own experience, is the harder people work at it, the wealthier they become. yep, it's easy for me to say because I'm filthy stinking rich, not by way of a fat bank account, but because my life is filled to the brim with the things and the people I love and every day brings a new adventure and a new experience. I live by my own motto, "work hard, party harder!"

[ QUOTE ]
I will drive my decidedly un-cool 1989 Ford Taurus and wonder if the commaraderie I used to feel with my fellow street-rodders stops at the bottom line.

[/ QUOTE ]Methinks your problems with the commaraderie might be a result of your own outlook and attitude. Another thing I've learned in life is. The attitude you give, is the attitude you'll get back...........

[Kustom55]

Thank you carps, you wrote what I was thinking. Actually I was also thinking about getting pizza for diner but everything else you said was right on!

[burndup]

Bitchy, bitchy, just swallow your pride and go buy a civic, you'll love it...

[Kojack]

Well, I do hate greedy old men too.

[Carps]

[ QUOTE ]
Actually I was also thinking about getting pizza for diner ...

[/ QUOTE ]
Man, how weird is that?

I was just thinking about Pizza for lunch. Guess this seals it! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Chopped50Ford]

Dude...I cant belive what im hearing. Secondly, looking at your "collection" of rides and the time/money you put in that 58.

What are you looking for? 32 3-window w/ a supercharged Ardun Flattie?

If you want to get into this hobby, you have to sacrifice. If you cant sacrifice yourself to what you love...drop it and move on...because it wasnt meant to be.

Oh, and the lottery comment, if you win the lottery and buy that fiberglass 32 w/ the Lexus motor...I guarantee you will be walking down "Goldchainer Boulevard" by yourself.

This hobbie is based on the love, hard work, dedication and sacrifices to your ride...and enjoying them w/ others. The greatest of them all is getting together w/ your friends and turning wrenches. Getting it done...and finally firing it up...Damn, its like sex w/ a Christy Brinkley look alike on Hollywood Blvd....Experiences I wouldnt trade for anything. PERIOD.

I owned 6 classic cars before I finally had one that ran, and looked sharp...

Im wasting my breath...

Good luck on your searches!!! Sell your sh*t and get what you want...what else is there to say???? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[hotrod54chevy]

wait wait wait wait..young people cant have a cool car that they drive every day??i'm 21,and i drive a 54 chevy to work every day!and what are you bitching about?get yourself an old car and shut up.i got my car running and in primer for $5k,so knock it off,you big baby!you want and old car but dont want to work on it?GET A MODEL.geez.just do us all a favor and SHUT UP.
creepy

[crewcutkid]

HIJACK!
Hilborn mechanical fuel injection- fer a flathead. Anyone got any pics?
-Crew

[Nads]

Carps rules.

FWIW, I got a $1500 loan to buy a '61 Caddy in '86, it established my credit, now I owe every credit card company in the world money.

[Psychobilly Boi]

Yikes,

I can feel your fustration... I wanted a hot rod so bad I could taste it. And I got one... how?

When everyone was dirnking away thier pay cheque I was saving. When everyone was buying late model cars I was catching the train and saving. When everyone else was partying I was working over time and ...saving.

Its all about priorities and sacrifice. It took me 5 years to get a hot rod...and I got it when I was 23. Hardly my golden years. Infact I was the youngest person I knew with a rod - that they paid for themselves.

I dont want to sound patronising but I think if your serious enough you will find away. Sell some of those other cars and buy a rod.

Danny

[ QUOTE ]
I've decided that the reason I never see any "younger" people with cool rods is that by the time they have saved enough money or spent enough time to buy/build anything cool, they are rapidily approaching thier golden years.


[ QUOTE ]
I know quite a few very young fellas who own some of the nicest, and better built, even big bux, high zoot hot rods in the land. Likewise, I know a bunch of young fellas who own some of the coolest rattiest old shitters in the land. Both groups got 'em the same way and both groups are equally proud of what they have. See my second paragraph above to learn how they do it.

[/ QUOTE ]


[/ QUOTE ]


By the way im def in the coolest rattiest old shitters in the land cattergory hey carps?

Danny

[steevil]

alright, before you guys lynch me, here's my story:

I made a deal to buy a chopped Merc sled. I talked to the guy and he told me the first guy to show up at my door with $18000 CANADIAN DOLLARS drives it away.



Otherwise he's listing it on Ebay that night and asking $18000 AMERICAN DOLLARS. He further goes on to tell me it's a hell of a deal because I save on the exchange rate.

I go to the bank and get a loan and show up at the guys door.

The car is on an Olds frame. Not worth $18000...maybe $10000 max.It needs a lot of finish work to hit the road but it's well within my abilities.

I already know that I'm paying waaaay too much but you need to pay to play. I'm about to seal the deal and he tells me that I must be mistaken because he wanted $18000 AMERICAN DOLLARS.

WTF?

He tells me that he needs to get at least $24000 CANADIAN DOLLARS out of it but he'll consider taking my '58 Ford in on a trade on top of $20000 CANADIAN cash.

He then tells me to hurry up and find the extra cash because it's going on Ebay tomorrow and it'll sell quick.

I look it up on Ebay and it already been there for 2 days.

I guess he figured he could soak me for as much as he could because I am a youngster.

I put the '58 up for sale to clear the way for the Merc but I guess that's a moot issue.

So now I'm stuck with a paying the intrest on the bank loan, didn't get the car I wanted.

I guess I didn't need to kvetch like a little girl but I didn't want to be a royal prick and name the guy (yeah, he cruises this board).

So again, sorry for sounding like a whiney bit¢h.

Honestly, my attitude isn't as bad as I come off. I've just had one guy after another try to sucker me.

Hell of an entrance huh?


okay, I'm done

[BARNETT]

Just keep the Ford.

[Steve]

wait the bank loaned you $18000 you have that money in hand. not using it on the car jsut pay the bank back the 18000 and be done why pay monthly and get charged the interest?

[steevil]

yeah, I have an appointment at the bank tomorrow to pay back the loan. I guess I didn't lose a whole lot of money though.

I find out tomorrow what my early payment penalty is.

[desertratrodder]

Yeah...pay the $$ back and be done. I might be inclined to poke out my good eye to get that 58 Ford from you. Thats a nice car. Wish I had one like that. If I get time to work on mine, I will.

Apparently you missed the posts about low buck rods a few weeks back. Alot of guys building for under 5K.
Hell, I buy up to 20- 50 cars a year for under 300 each, all classics..1920-1960's
You arent looking hard enough.
And stop spending your loan money on all the girls. The good ones like ya even if youre broke.

[steevil]

thanks for understanding guys.

[HotRod60F100]

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So why are you selling this 1958 Ford Custom 300 in the classifieds?

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No shit.

What are you bitching about when you've got this?

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WTF?this guys pissing and moaning when he has THAT???Newbie,your a STOOGE for wanting to sell that thing man i drive a 90 Dakota that you havta bungie cord the fuckin door closed all my bread i make goes to my 60 F100 and my 73 Gremlin you shoulda NEVER look a GIFT HORSE in the mouth!!you have it made in the shade homie,purge the cliTuarus and the rump Ranger buy some beater and spruce up the bitchin 58!!nuff said

[G Griffin]

...and its time to take down the Christmas lights.

[Artiki]

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...and its time to take down the Christmas lights.

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[rev616]

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You have a garage .Alot of the guys here don't even have that , they build their shit on the ground or in lean tos or storage spaces , scrounging salvage yards to find parts and enlisting the help of their friends , hosting bbqs throwing build parties and generaly busting their asses for what they have . don't you have to do that ? Sounds like your missing more than you have listed @&*@@%%%%&@ .Nice 58 . seeya . swaZZie

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right on man..i have an apartment carport.its 106 degrees when i work on my car.and if my apartments catch me,they will fine me $90.as soon as i get my new radiator,i have to push my car acrossed 4 lanes of traffic to an open parking lot to put it in,to avoid said fine

[Deuce Rails]

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alright, before you guys lynch me, here's my story:

I made a deal to buy a chopped Merc sled... I go to the bank and get a loan and show up at the guys door.

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What the fuck is wrong with you?

You got the loan before you even saw the car?

[luketrash]

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alright, before you guys lynch me, here's my story:

I made a deal to buy a chopped Merc sled... I go to the bank and get a loan and show up at the guys door.

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What the fuck is wrong with you?

You got the loan before you even saw the car?

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People grow out of this http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif I'm confident!

We were all young and stupid at one time, and luckily some of us got it out of the way before 20, but still...

Apparently he's infatuated with chopped 49-51 stuff, which is understandable, being it's the mainstream dream.

If I had the choice of a solid ride like his 58, and some backwoods engineered chop owned by a sheister, it'd be an easy choice.

Dude, lose the sunroof in the 58, and enjoy the thing. Your poop stinks of spoiled suburbia.. You got a yellow late model jeep sitting next to your car that's sitting in a nice asphaulted driveway..

I'm not lecturing you, but just want you to know how off base you are, but also that I know 50 kids JUST LIKE YOU.

My formula for success is to move out (if that's your folks house), educate yourself, get full time gainful employment, and fund your hobby...

All you need is a good dose of responsibility to see that you ain't got it that rough.

And going back to your original post, kids like you DO drive civics that cost 25,000 dollars and live at home with mom and dad, and THAT is like nails on a chalkboard to a guy like me who couldn't WAIT to get out of the house at 18 and make something of himself on his own... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Dooley]

Never mind those guys...just PM me I know of this old twin engine rod built int he 60's sitting in this garage. The old lady who owns it want it out and the first one with a trailer gets it. Oh and I think it has a bubble top or something...

[Deuce Rails]

(Never mind.) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Chopped50Ford]

to be continued...

[tinyelvis]

oh shit..

[Carps]

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By the way im def in the coolest rattiest old shitters in the land cattergory hey carps?

Danny

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And that's only your hairdo. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Carps]

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I made a deal to buy a chopped Merc sled. I talked to the guy and he told me the first guy to show up at my door with $18000 CANADIAN DOLLARS drives it away.

Otherwise he's listing it on Ebay that night and asking $18000 AMERICAN DOLLARS.

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Hmmm, high pressure tactic, time to ask myself, why is this guy in such a hurry to be shot of this car?

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I go to the bank and get a loan and show up at the guys door.The car is on an Olds frame. Not worth $18000...maybe $10000 max.It needs a lot of finish work to hit the road but it's well within my abilities.

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You agreed to buy, then borrowed the money having NEVER seen the car? Man, you're just asking to be to be played for a sucker!

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I already know that I'm paying waaaay too much but you need to pay to play.

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Rule 1. You NEVER need to pay more than anything is worth, or more than you can afford to pay.

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I'm about to seal the deal and he tells me that I must be mistaken because he wanted $18000 AMERICAN DOLLARS.

[/ QUOTE ] Nope, you were about to get rolled over and royally reamed up the arse!

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He tells me that he needs to get at least $24000 CANADIAN DOLLARS out of it but he'll consider taking my '58 Ford in on a trade on top of $20000 CANADIAN cash.

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And you are still deaf to the warning buzzer and blind to the flashing lights? You should not have let it get this far! This is the point of no return, where you should have told him to go fuck himself and walked away from the deal.

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He then tells me to hurry up and find the extra cash because it's going on Ebay tomorrow and it'll sell quick.

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See above...
Despite how the moist patch in the front of your jeans makes you feel, you don't need this shitbox!



[/ QUOTE ]I look it up on Ebay and it already been there for 2 days.

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Surprise, surprise!

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I guess he figured he could soak me for as much as he could because I am a youngster.

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Nope, he saw you had the word "SUCKER" tatooed on your forehead and figured he could rape you, then ask you to pay him for the privelige.

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So now I'm stuck with a paying the intrest on the bank loan, didn't get the car I wanted.

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No, you now have $18k plus any money you get from the sale of your Ford. Do you not now have enough cash to continue searching for the car of your dreams?

Surely this overpriced peice of crap (if it really is that) is not the ONLY early Merc Custom that's being offered for sale anywhere in the world?

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Honestly, my attitude isn't as bad as I come off. I've just had one guy after another try to sucker me.

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So have you learned anything for the effort?

Maybe you need to wear a condom when you look at the next car, so that when you shoot your load in your pants, the seller can't see the teltale wet patch that marks you as a sucker.

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okay, I'm done

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Bitching, or trying to locate and purchase the car of your dreams?

[DIRTYT]

i felt compeld to write a little someting here. im a younger guy 23 to be exact. i live in a damn condo (where im about to get kicke dout of for working on my cars) and i have a few old cars. and a shit load of debt and i onley make 12 bucks an hour. no i used to have a civic (rest its soul) and it had some rice into it. but i allso have a 50 chevy sled. that i bought instead of built thinking wow it would be nice not to have to work on a car and just drive it. well the car had other idea's and i felt like a punk driving "some one else's" car so off went the roof. and i still owe the bank a bunch of money for it. and if your bitching about not being able to find a old car that u can drive to work and back then your blind. about once i week i come acroos a old beater for under 500 bucks. granite thats like what 14,000 canadian http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif but its out there sure that 500 dolla car may not run to good or hell not at all. but if u stick around here and make some friends and connections oyther then bitching about how your perfect life sucks u may be able to find some people that are willing to help you out. and for nothing in return other then the same from you at one point. hell right down the street from me there is a damn nice 50 chevy all orig runs drives the whole bit for 2500 and its preety damn solid too. and u would get to add your own kustom bits and peices to it. best part of all is your not working behoind some ones work trying to fix it. sounds to me like u really want that civic or toyota. i got a civic hatchback and a toyota supra engine ill sell ya you can have fun playing with with http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[steevil]

ALright already. I've got it out of my system. The rest of my junk is up for sale to fund my projects. FOr the record, I don't have a garage either.

I am just tired of guys trying to rape me on the price of thier junk. I don't have a problem paying a FAIR price for stuff.

Of course a highly sought after car will command more money, I realize that.

FOr my next act, I am going to drive 2000 miles to look at a different car. relax, no more drama, I promise.

[sedan_dad]

Dude,Anything worth having isn't cheap or free.I started with a 40 Chevy 4 door sedan(hence the name Sedan_dad)
through years of horse trading and wrenching I'm now here.
Develop patience and a plan.

[bootie]

dude $18000 - i could finish my whole truck with that and have heaps left over - build it your self - i don't want no body elses ride - hell i know what i do to hide stuff in the cars i trade - your complaining about having no $$$$$$$$$ dude i earn NZ$100 a week thats it i gotta pay for food and power out of that (joys of being a student) (student loan pays the mortgage on my house) i busted my arse getting a trade as a mechanic so i could buy a house and once i did that i moved onto going and doinsg something else but i got myself a ride (47 ford p/up) it needs a shit load of work but you know its all mine and its gonna get built the way i want it - if the bank is gonna lend you $18k you ain't poor so stop your whinging Hey i'm only young (28) and i've had over 70 cars and bikes yeah some of them have been crap but i've had some good stuff in there i've got a 91 toyota corrolla s/w i use as a daily driver - thats got a tricked up inj 1600 in yeah i'd love to drive my truck everyday (hell i'd i'd like to drive my truck -big empty space under the bonnet) but hell i'm just happy with what i got - i spent $50 on a set of mag wheels which i'll spend a weekend repainting and polishing and i'll sell 'em for $500 man everybody just wants there little silver platter with there silver goblet - get off your arse!!!!!!!!!!

[bootie]

my truck cost me NZ$250 to start with but i've paid less for stuff never pay what they ask always be willing to walk away (its the only way to get a good deal) and if some prick had changed the price on me i'd told to shove it my time costs.

[burndup]

1) He bent over.

2) He pulled his cheeks apart...

3) And he even asks "Please."


See #3. He asked for it.

[james]

Never finance anything you don't NEED. A house, maybe a reliable car for work or the family, that's IT! Too many kids move out and think they need the cool car, big screen tv and all the newest junk, then end up in major money trouble. Spend a few bucks to trick out the 58', save up for a welder and a cheap project and learn to do it yourself.