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demonspeed
08-04-2004, 12:27 AM
I noticed a lot of people rippin on Jimmy shine on the board. i was just wonderin why. Im not really a huge fan of him but i dont really hate him either.

BARNETT
08-04-2004, 12:36 AM
You're a big enough fan to post the same thread about him twice. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ryan
08-04-2004, 12:37 AM
Shine is an amazing craftsman... I'd love to have his skills - who's ripping him? I wish he would let me help his marketing though...

crewcutkid
08-04-2004, 12:39 AM
I like his truck- sans the divco wheels and crosses. Seems like an okay guy to me- I aint gonna bitch. He's not in the perpetual bad mood that Boyd is in, so he's alright.
-Crew
Has anyone else noticed the conspicuous bulge of the eyes that Chip Foose has? I don't wanna make fun of him, but it looks like his finger is in the socket!

Ryan
08-04-2004, 12:44 AM
Chip Foose is a modern genius...

SinisterCustom
08-04-2004, 12:57 AM
Shine's truck rocks.Very talented.
Foose is an awesome designer. Not my style but can definitely appreciate his abilities.

'Flyin' Dutchman'
08-04-2004, 01:01 AM
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Shine is an amazing craftsman... I'd love to have his skills - who's ripping him? I wish he would let me help his marketing though...

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I totally agree with Ryan.
I met Jimmy a couple times in the last years. That guy does amazing work and he's always been cool to me and ready to help me out. No attitude. Only the whole merchandise thing might be a bit overdone (can't really find the right word here)...

CRAP
08-04-2004, 01:02 AM
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Shine's truck rocks.Very talented.
Foose is an awesome designer. Not my style but can definitely appreciate his abilities.

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Exactly!

demonspeed
08-04-2004, 01:05 AM
yea sry about the double post my computer is retarded. I like some of his stuff too but ive seen a few posts that implied that he's a poser or whatever so i was just wonderin if i missed somethin but i guess people like him more than i thought.

haring
08-04-2004, 01:21 AM
Never met Jimmy Shine, but that truck of his is amazing. I've only heard good things about him as well.

Perhaps the "poser" image comes from the way he always seems to be photographed. Cole, too. Those photographers like to shoot them for maximum jerk-off for all the guys in prison. Mmmm, those flat-brimmed hats, Dickies work shirts, and furrowed brows sure are sexy.

Chip Foose, however ... ain't nothing sexy about that guy. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

gege
08-04-2004, 01:29 AM
Just a thought, don't know him but like and wish i was driving his little truck, i admire his craftmanship, have not seen the ripping other than the trying to market a new truck as an old one but that brings me to my point, over selling of people by way of items with their name has happened time after time after time to the extent of being the negative not the person. look at Von Dutch, occ, wc choppers on and on, i admit to wearing things with roth on them but all this marketing of people i think is a turn off so maybe its not shine himself but the in your face shine shirts that is the culprit for turnoffs, people may be tired of the secondary marketing versus just the original craft respect? when you see the above mentioned co. decals on wrecks with bc plates it just don't make sense.???????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

crewcutkid
08-04-2004, 01:35 AM
Although I can agree with "over-marketing" it's good to advertise, promote business. But the VonDutch thing pissed me off som uch in high school that every time I saw somebody wearing one of those articles of clothing I would lecture them on Dutch. It didn't take long for those who wore that stuff to stop. I got a lot of compliments on my So-Cal t-shirts, though.
It helps w/ the ladies, a heh-heh.
-Crew

SAVAGE
08-04-2004, 01:47 AM
Jimmy is a Hell of a nice guy. I hung out with him a few times out at the lakes. When I broke the driveshaft on my model A he let me take his truck and trailer loaded with all his race gear to haul my truck home. After offering to run home and get parts and help me fix it at the lakes. I would say that is a hell of a nice guy to let someone you really don't know take your new truck 6 hours round trip in the middle of the night.. Jimmy is a good guy besides being a great fabricator.

Elmo Rodge
08-04-2004, 02:00 AM
Thanx for reminding me. I owe Jimmy a beer. Look. People get all worked up over people they don't know. Jimmy's a good guy. Always treats me fine. You need me to rough him up or anything? Wayno

Bass
08-04-2004, 02:10 AM
I've met The Shine a few times, and he's always come across as a nice guy each time I've talked to him...He's definitely a character, though.

I was just at So-cal Speedshop the other day and got to check out the bike he's building....the craftsmanship on the thing is first-rate. Lots of interesting details and killer execution to boot. I think his abilities combined with the fact that he's such a character lead to his marketability, so to speak. And it seems So-cal has tried to cash in on Shine a bit... but that doesn't seem to keep him from doing what he wants to do, or from building nice stuff.

As far as the negative feedback is concerned, it goes hand in hand with the popularity. Once a guy gets to be well known, there will always be that segment of the population that will hate him for it, no matter if he's actually the real deal or not.

http://pic3.picturetrail.com/VOL19/1983783/4017955/62202389.jpg

As far as I can tell, The Shine is the real deal. Although he's a good guy and obviously talented, I don't really think he should be put on a pedestal...but his work definitely should command respect.

I also tend to agree with Ryan's comments on Chip Foose. To me, the guy seems to be sort of a Hot Rod renaissance man...he can do a little bit of everything better than most people can do just one.

Tman
08-04-2004, 02:20 AM
I still say Chip looks like that retarded kid on TV in the 80s.............Corky. ANd I will call him that next week when he is in town. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Ant
08-04-2004, 02:22 AM
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As far as the negative feedback is concerned, it goes hand in hand with the popularity. Once a guy gets to be well known, there will always be that segment of the population that will hate him for it, no matter if he's actually the real deal or not.



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Couldn't have put it better myself. Start making money and all of a sudden you are a sell out. I've been told he is embarrased about the t-shirts etc.

PEDDRO
08-04-2004, 02:52 AM
Wish I could swap lifestyles/jobs with Mr.Shine!!

But......Chip who???

**DONOTDELETE**
08-04-2004, 02:54 AM
Nothin but respect for Jimmy Shine...the popular attitude seems to be "he has a tshirt out...fuckin sellout"...same people blastin jesse james. next thing ya know people are gonna say Fay Butler has no talent 'cause he was on t.v...i don't know one person who wouldn't want to advance their career and make some more money while there at it...except for me ya know cause i wanna live in shitty house and struggle to pay bills..hey at least i will be true to the scene and not be a sellout..fuck that..people always put down what they can't be

Skate Fink
08-04-2004, 05:02 AM
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Only the whole merchandise thing might be a bit overdone (can't really find the right word here)...

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............exploited? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

SanDiegoJoe
08-04-2004, 09:59 AM
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Chip Foose is a modern genius...

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I agree, WAY too smart. Makes it look easy.

Petejoe
08-04-2004, 10:03 AM
Is he originally from Canada????

antichrysler
08-04-2004, 10:04 AM
That bike looks like "The Shine" took a guided tour of Fly Rite Choopers. The Sad thing is that that bike will get 20x's the press Jason's get and he's done that bike and better.

Bass
08-04-2004, 10:34 AM
I'm going to disagree a bit here....I totally like and respect the bikes that Jason and crew build, but even though they are done in a similar vein there are differences. Almost like comparing apples to oranges.

The reveal in the tank is hand-hammered...the reveal in the fender was made on a hand-formed die...the oil tank is handmade from aluminum tube stock, the frame is a one-off piece...etc., etc.

The only thing I see that this bike really has in common with other bikes is the 16" rear and 21" front wheel...and that does not make it the same. In fact, it's the details that set the bike apart from other traditional builds.

I'm not saying it's the best, just interesting and well put together.

That's my 2 cents, please resume the Jimmy Shine love fest/and or bashing now. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Ant
08-04-2004, 11:08 AM
Hey Bass you got any more pics of the bike? I love how some people do things the hard way. If you didn't know you wouldn't think how much work goes into some of these pieces (especially if people think that OCC is the way bikes are built).

zman
08-04-2004, 11:14 AM
Man I dig that thing. Love the rear bar and the way it hugs the tail light. It so kicks that silly PBR bike, in another post, ass.... Great work, tasteful, stylish yet utilitarian...

Mmmmmm..... Good.

SamIyam
08-04-2004, 11:24 AM
People that rip on Jimmy Shine are jealous.

He's very personable, AND builds top notch shit.

Sam.

Alford
08-04-2004, 11:34 AM
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willowbilly3
08-04-2004, 11:37 AM
I agree that Shine and Foose are both extremely talented and so id Jesse and Paul Jr.
Jesse's show is a joke as far as the way it is presented. Too bad because he is one talented dude and he puts together some dam fine build teems.
I still like to watch OCC even though I don't like the type of bikes they build and the marketing hype is a farce. They are selling crap, every truck stop now has cheap made OCC hats from China. I guess West Coast Choppers has the same shoddy crap. Sad thing is Jesse's celebrity status doesn't really come from what he builds, it comes from dark side of his personality.

RF
08-04-2004, 11:44 AM
Cus, where'd you lift that "lakeslide" shot from? (I took it, that's why I was wondering)

Oh, yeah...Shine's a fag. Greg Peterson does all Jimmy's fab work after hours!

roadstar
08-04-2004, 01:26 PM
Is this the young man of whom you speak?

He was just another hotrodder that night.

Typcal Fag can't you tell http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Steve
08-04-2004, 01:42 PM
only had the chance to talk to jimmy once. Hell of a nice guy. he'll talk and drink beers for hours. and pictures of his truck do not do it justice. I wish I had a tenth of the skills he has. The only thing I think people have questioned on here which I wouldn't call putting him down just constructive critisizm is the is of the heym joints on the radius rods because of the way the spring attaches to them. I see their point with concernes of the sideways load put on them but obviously it hasn't been a problem.

stoggie
08-04-2004, 01:42 PM
Shine's stuff is very cool and I would guess a lot are jealous. Chip - actually one of the coolest people I have met. I am sure he doesn't remember me but I talked to him for an hour at SEMA one year and then I was on Power Tour the year they took that '57. They put on this cool BBQ in St Louis, Boyd was so pissed people were asking for Chip's autograph on the same thing Boyd just signed.
And as for talent - WOW - is about all you can say. I think he sees things in automobiles some people will never see. Incredible talent.
Both top flight guys in my book.

Kilroy
08-04-2004, 01:52 PM

FoMoCo_MoFo
08-04-2004, 02:02 PM
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That bike looks like "The Shine" took a guided tour of Fly Rite Choopers. The Sad thing is that that bike will get 20x's the press Jason's get and he's done that bike and better.


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Jason just needs a full time marketing man...

Django
08-04-2004, 02:33 PM
I missed the show, but I have always had alot of respect for his work. Except for the F150 he built. That one seemed like they were just whoring out his ideas onto the new truck with a timetable so accelerated that it made it impossible for the truck to be successful. That's just my take on it though as a designer.

SO... Is Jimmy Shine his real name? Isn't the guy going off to vietnam in Hollywood Knights named Jimmy Shine??

Elmo Rodge
08-04-2004, 02:46 PM
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SO... Is Jimmy Shine his real name?

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Falschlehner. Write some "Ad copy" around that. Wayno

crush1776
08-04-2004, 02:54 PM
Elmo beat me to it. If your name was James Felenshnerfer (whatever) wouldn't you go by 'Jimmy Shine'? Anyone who rips on him but doesn't know him is a jealous tool. His work speaks for itself: top notch craftsmanship. And if your going to criticize someones ride, you'd better post a picture of yours to show us all the 'correct' way to do it. Man, I HATE critics, if you can't do it yourself, you criticize the way other people do things. Unfreakin' believable. Two thumbs up! (yer a-hole).

Steve
08-04-2004, 03:28 PM
damn crush. you don't have to get that emotional about it, but yest his work is top notch.

Fat Hack
08-04-2004, 03:30 PM
He looked so different in "Hollywood Knights"...

Smokin Joe
08-04-2004, 03:43 PM
Dj, you're right about Hollywood Knights.

I ran into Jimmy at the CHRR when he had the new wheels on the truck and the HAMB was in an uproar about them. He took the time to explain how those wheels were made and answered some other questions I had about the truck. Seemed like a nice guy to me. Into what he was doing.

Those who don't think Shine got ripped on the HAMB have forgotten about this!

Tony Bones
08-04-2004, 06:07 PM
Recurring theme: People talk shit about people when they should be talking it about said person's projects.

Saying you hate the fuck out of the style of Shine's truck is one thing. Saying he's not talented is entirely different. Saying something of a personal nature that degrades the guys character should get you kicked in the balls if you haven't met him.

PEDDRO
08-04-2004, 06:39 PM
Jimmy is clearly a good guy, but someone's gotta say somethin' to him about those hats.....V-E-R-Y bad!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

JohnnyB327
08-04-2004, 06:50 PM
ive never met but id sure like to so i could tell him that i saw the video of him sidewalk surfin and i decided to try it out and broke a few bones in my foot hahaha. But i really dig his work and i got the new hot rod magazine today and they did a lil deal about that ardun roadster HOLY SHIT!!!!!! THAT FUCKIN THING IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!

JohnnyB327
08-04-2004, 06:50 PM
gutter surfin is what i mean sorry haha http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

crush1776
08-04-2004, 07:21 PM
You're absolutely right, Steve. I should not blow a gasket getting worked up over what someone said about someone else I don't even know. Some things obviously are not above criticism: The "Corvette Summer" car for example. However, I hear alot of ranting and raving about 'clown car' this, and 'gold-chainer' that and 'rat rod this' and 90% of them are pretty cool in my book. Yeah, maybe not the way I would do it, but somebody else put alot of effort into making it THEIR'S. Quit bitchin' and get yer ass in the garage is what I say! Now if I could just heed my own infinite wisdom, I'd be done with my Vicky by now http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

KIRK!
08-04-2004, 07:34 PM
Never met him. Heard he's pretty cool. What bugs me is that he gets so much credit and notoriety for ONE build. I know he's built a couple other things. I dig the shit out of that bike he built like 5 years ago. I just don't get all the hype over basically one car (truck). I know he busts shit out for the shop but what else bears his name besides the truck and the Bonneville roadster That I heard was bought all but done.

I'm definitely not bashing him. Just curious.

Plus why are we talking about him anyway? I think we're a bunch of homos who think he's hot.

roadstar
08-04-2004, 08:36 PM
Hey Kirk! I think you're hot http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.

KIRK!
08-04-2004, 10:45 PM
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Hey Kirk! I think you're hot http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.



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Who doesn't? Get in line!

MattStrube
08-05-2004, 12:24 PM
Is Sam Foose still around? Chip must have learned a lot from his pops.

Mr. Happy
08-05-2004, 02:04 PM
Sam was on a recent episode of Overhaulin, and was also in an earlier episode of Rides. The one with Titus' car.

B Lawrence
11-24-2009, 05:52 PM
Opinions are like assholes.............everyone has one. It"s just that some are bigger than others..................and I"m not talking about opinions either!

Old-Soul
11-24-2009, 05:55 PM
Holy Necro-thread Batman!

K13
11-24-2009, 05:59 PM
Opinions are like assholes.............everyone has one. It"s just that some are bigger than others..................and I"m not talking about opinions either!


You bring up a 5 year old thread to post this. ^ 2nd post to boot. WOW:confused:

tfeverfred
11-24-2009, 06:06 PM
Opinions are like assholes.............everyone has one. It"s just that some are bigger than others..................and I"m not talking about opinions either!

I've said it before and I'll say it again. There's a strange new breed of FNG on here lately.

Is this the beginnings of 2012? First strange posts from new people, then earthquakes, floods, famine and then..... apocolypto!?:confused: I need to stock up.

RichG
11-24-2009, 06:09 PM
http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr52/rgallegos88/holy_thread_resurrection_batman.jpg

McDeuce
11-24-2009, 06:15 PM
I was not really a Jimmy Shine fan, until I meet him 3 weeks ago and spent about 30 - 45 minutes talking about a car he was working on. He was a really nice guy, took his time talking to me and explaining what he was doing. He was not at all like he appeared on TV, aggresive .. he was really great. My opinion is completely changed after meeting him. The hollywood image is one thing ... but he is a real car guy like all of us that has tremendous talent and work his butt off to get the job many /most of us dream of.

hombres ruin
11-24-2009, 06:16 PM
The dude can build .hes ok by me,but then again who am I ?

tooslow54
11-24-2009, 06:28 PM
Is this thread old enough to be considered "traditional"???

B Lawrence
11-24-2009, 06:31 PM
sorry if i upset you but if your of the opion to trass someone you dont know or have never delt with you are an asshole thats my opinion wrong or right why would anyone pound on something good. bl..

Bigdaddy
11-24-2009, 06:32 PM
sorry if i upset you but if your of the opion to trass someone you dont know or have never delt with you are an asshole thats my opinion wrong or right why would anyone pound on something good. bl..

Is this English???

J&JHotrods
11-24-2009, 06:33 PM
[QUOTE.......Has anyone else noticed the conspicuous bulge of the eyes that Chip Foose has? I don't wanna make fun of him, but it looks like his finger is in the socket![/QUOTE]
Heard him say "there are 3 work days in one 24hr. day". Wonder if it's catching up to him. No fella can burn the candle at both ends for too long without adverse affects. I do give him credit though-and Jimmy.
I look at the ad-nauseum marketing the way I view public radio: Ya know that song that just came out that you really like, but now you hate it cuz it got shoved down your throat a bazillion times in one day?

captain scarlet
11-24-2009, 06:33 PM
someone get me popcorn quick:D