TECH help: Painting lace panels on curved surfaces

[KIRK!]

I want to do some lace panels on a very curved surface similar to a sportster tank on a springer chopper with a Pan/Shovel. But it's not that......really.

Anyway, does anyone know any tricks for spraying lace so it comes out nice and clear?

[G V Gordon]

Kirk, it depends on the lace you are using. We always wet it and then layed it on a towel to get the exccess water off. then just layed it on. On a really tight curve we sometimes had to cut it and match it up where it looked good. The more pliable the lace the better. and yes I am old enough to remember when it was the new cusom paint craze. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[REDDOG]

id like to see some pics of this, please

[Jester]

as would I, I've never understood the appeal....maybe I just haven't seen any that looked good

[DrJ]

It looks like a Victoria's Secrets Econoline delivery van.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Works best on a white '64 Chevy along with a Black Madonna mural on the roof. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I usta have a CB 450 with candy purple, pink and grape lace flowers over silver flake... Yea people looked, no I didn't paint it, I bought it that way, for $10, and it ran! (after I put a diode/rheostat in the charging system) Oh the point, yes I guess it's possible to do low compound curves...Stretch lace, maybe, for high convex curves?

When I worked at the Olds dealer, we laced the side of our leased shop van. That was in the late 70s. But it was flat.

[mikes51]

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I've never understood the appeal....

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[Jester]

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Depending on the conotation of the question Yes...or is it no http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[willowbilly3]

Oh God, Please tell me it isn't true!! That most tasteless and shortlived fad can't be back!! puuullleezze noooo

[famous59]

My body shop teacher demonstrated this to the class one day, I think it is a cool trick depending on your custom. If I remmebr correctly he demonstrated it on a hood and simply dusted some pearl over the lace and removed after his dust passes once dried.

[manyolcars]

you could spray the lace with a glue that gets tacky enough to stay put, but peels off easily

[Unkl Ian]

Kirk:don't use too much air pressure,or it will lift the lace off the highly curved surface.
Practice on a Volkswagon first.

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Oh God, Please tell me it isn't true!! That most tasteless and shortlived fad can't be back!! puuullleezze noooo

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I've seen worse

[KIRK!]

Ahh..... the disturbed reactions are great.

I was thinking of very lightly dusting the back with clear then laying it down. Then spray the color and lift the lace as soon as possible so the clear doesn't dry. I'm afraid that glue may cause an adverse reaction when I go to clear it.

The theme is Bare metal meets black lace with a swastika cherry on top. I'll post when it's done.

Now don't get your panties in a wad over swastikas. I am of American Indian descent and it was a symbol used for centuries by Indians and the Chinese before some shitbag came along and fucked it up. Look at turn of the century good luck imagery. You'll find THREE leaf clovers, rabbits feet, horseshoes and, yes, swastikas. It was also an American good luck symbol believe it or not.

[MikeO]

I cant remember the name of it but you can use airbrush stencil glue or 3M low tack spray. Ive used both and both seem to work the same

[KIRK!]

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I cant remember the name of it but you can use airbrush stencil glue or 3M low tack spray. Ive used both and both seem to work the same

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They don't piss off the clear?

[Smokin Joe]

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Are you experienced?

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Yup, saw Jimi the year he croaked. Also had tickets to the San Diego concert he didn't make it to.

Lace works best on fairly flat or convex surfaces. You could use something like a spray on rubber cement to stick it to a concave surface, but then you have to get all the glue off after the paint dries before you can clear it. A buddy of mine back in the 70's used some stuff they use for matting pictures. Sprayed very lightly on the lace and pressed into place without moving it. Try it on a test piece first. Hopefully you can use a little thinner on a rag and get the glue without rubbing out your new lace job.

[4t64rd]

It was a Sanskrit symbol then a Hindu symbol before that. Not that that makes it less offensive today.

[Unkl Ian]

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I would suggest clearing your parts first,to get a smooth level surface.
Then do the Lace treatment over top.

The spray on adhesives are like Rubber Cement,and will peel off without leaving too much residue.
Of course,it wouldn't hurt to wipe the panel down again before clearing.

When you are choosing your lace,don't look at the Lace,look at the holes.
The Lace creates a mask,the paint goes where the holes are.

[Jeem]

I haven't done it yet but I am going to mask of the border of the laced area to the outside of the shape, in other words, leave the area to be laced open. Then I will spread the lace over the area and tape it down evenly past the area that was masked off. Obviously you can spread it just enough to tension the lace but it seems like you could pull it and tape it in different directions, within reason, to give different effects, wetting it and getting off the excess water sounds like a good idea. Of course, those of you with ultimate restraint and sophistication will not be painting lace panels anyway.....

[ray]

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Ahh..... the disturbed reactions are great.

I was thinking of very lightly dusting the back with clear then laying it down. Then spray the color and lift the lace as soon as possible so the clear doesn't dry. I'm afraid that glue may cause an adverse reaction when I go to clear it.

The theme is Bare metal meets black lace with a swastika cherry on top. I'll post when it's done.

Now don't get your panties in a wad over swastikas. I am of American Indian descent and it was a symbol used for centuries by Indians and the Chinese before some shitbag came along and fucked it up. Look at turn of the century good luck imagery. You'll find THREE leaf clovers, rabbits feet, horseshoes and, yes, swastikas. It was also an American good luck symbol believe it or not.

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i'm with you man, but good luck! i think nads tried that agruement. too bad few of us can look back and see the other meanings.

but on the painting topic, what you could try, is doing the highly curved part of the lace pattern in sections, airbrush it for max control, and it would depend on the lace pattern, the more random the better, but put the lace on, and airbrush a small area where the lace is laying flat, maybe 3-4" or so. let dry like normal, get a fresh chunk of lace, lay it on, and this time shoot for a adjoining area to lay flatter, a little tweaking to get the pattern to line up some, and repeat until done. you can use the airbrush to erase any extra paint. it would be kind of a slow process, but might work better than trying to shoot the whole thing at once. could be a fun little airbrush project.

[safariknut]

Old trick to get lace to lay down:Get some cheap hairspray and lightly spray the lace before laying on the surface.Has just enough tack to hold it down,leaves no residue,and allows the lace to be easily removed.Lace will also stretch somewhat so be careful not to distort the pattern too much.Pull a little bit on all sides to get out all the folds.
The best way is to lay out panels beforehand with 1/8th inch tape and mask around them,lay the lace down and spray LIGHTLY over the surface,remove immediately.Topcoat everything lightly to set the pattern and stripe around the design(if desired)and then apply topcoats as needed.

[KIRK!]

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Old trick to get lace to lay down:Get some cheap hairspray and lightly spray the lace before laying on the surface.Has just enough tack to hold it down,leaves no residue,and allows the lace to be easily removed.Lace will also stretch somewhat so be careful not to distort the pattern too much.Pull a little bit on all sides to get out all the folds.
The best way is to lay out panels beforehand with 1/8th inch tape and mask around them,lay the lace down and spray LIGHTLY over the surface,remove immediately.Topcoat everything lightly to set the pattern and stripe around the design(if desired)and then apply topcoats as needed.

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Now that sounds like a plan!

[hatch]

Water soaked lace will adhere to the panel....let it dry overnite...shoot the color in the morning....lace easily peels off.....if you shoot some panels, don't overdo it.

[KIRK!]

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Water soaked lace will adhere to the panel....let it dry overnite...shoot the color in the morning....lace easily peels off.....if you shoot some panels, don't overdo it.

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More good advice. I think the key to good lace panels is subtlety.

[choprods]

You could IRON it with a steam iron......... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Thats what the missus does......

[Unkl Ian]

Just don't forget to put the Lace Curtains back in the Corporate Jet when you are finished.