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TINGLER
07-31-2004, 02:02 PM
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Ayers Garage
07-31-2004, 02:16 PM
I'm so glad to see that you're going to follow through with the straight axle project. Please take lots of pictures as you go along and keep us updated with reports. I've been eyeing those Speedway axle kits for awhile now, looking to use one in the future myself. I'd be interested in hearing blow by blow how this works out.

Sorry, I'm kinpin stupid though, I can't help you.

LOST ANGEL
07-31-2004, 02:23 PM
VT, the way the spindle is laying, just rotate it down to the axle. The larger pin boss is to the top. The bearing goes on the bottom between the axle and spindle,. Put it together with no shims, if it is loose, add shims to the upper side of the axle, between the axle and the spindle.

Check the bearing, some are marked top, that means up, not on top of the axle. Grease has to be able to get from the fitting in the spindle to the bearing, so make sure it is in right.

Also on final assembly, make sure the notch in the pin lines up with the hole in the axle for your lock pin.-MIKE http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Dirty2
07-31-2004, 03:06 PM
The threaded posts are what holds the spindel in and are also steering stops threads go to the front ..

LOST ANGEL
07-31-2004, 03:32 PM
Yup, felts on top, they keep the crap out. Writting on the bearings goes up.

As far as the lock pins, there should be a way to secure the pin to the axle, or else the pin will rotate in the axle instead of the bushing and screw things up.

You might want to check with Speedway on the locks to be safe.-MIKE

Digger_Dave
07-31-2004, 03:54 PM
Von, now that I take a closer look at the end of the axle, I might just have "eat my words" below!

It doesn't look like there is a lock pin hole in the center of the king pin boss. (which would explain why you said, "do I need the threaded bolts?")

Are there "notches" on one side of each king pin?

Is there an Allen head set screw (or screws) on the end of the pin bosses? If there are SET SCREWS on the end of the axle; then you won't use the bolts. AND A WORD OF WARNING, after everything is in place for the last time; AND there are SET SCREWS, USE LOCKTITE to make sure the don't vibrate free.

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The threaded posts are what holds the spindel in and are also steering stops threads go to the front ..

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I think you mean to the rear.. once the King Pin and spindle are all together The lock pins go thru the holes in the axle (making sure the notches in both the lock pins and king pins are in alignment) with the threads toward the REAR of the vehicle. The long "domed" nuts (with the lock washer first) then hold everything together AND act as the steering stops. (keeps the spindles from turning too far)

More... The lock pins in the picture DON'T appear to have the domed NUTS supplied. Which means the THREADS SHOULD FACE FORWARD! But only if the axle has the holes for them!

Smokin Joe
07-31-2004, 04:07 PM
Yup, that's it. They done told you right. Took me some thinking the first time too.
Those posts are for a beam axle. The allen screw does the same job, (Sorta) on your tube axle. It acts as a set screw to keep the pins from turning in the axle instead of in the bushings..
Don't forget those zerks. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

4t64rd
07-31-2004, 06:33 PM
I don't know if you can make out what each piece is, but here is a drawing from tha VanPeltSales site:
http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/FH_images/FH_chassis-pics/Flathead_Suspension_1932-37passngr.jpg

3288 is like a washer but with an edge, 3125 is a felt, 3123 is the bearing, it goes the axle, above the lower part of the spindle.

I just took apart the F-1 this morning and I still had to read over how it goes back together. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif It's not like we do this everyday.

Curly
07-31-2004, 06:53 PM
In the above pic 3122 & 3124 are your posts and you don't have this thru hole on your axle so you will not be using them. You do have to lock the kingpin to the axle once it is all assembeled and shimmed though. This is a very important step that can be easily overlooked.