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rustyford1
07-30-2004, 12:49 AM
I'm wanting to build some lake style headers for my 292. Has anyone built there own? What did you use . I've heard of using old torque tubes or old axle tubes. How do these sound? Speedway has just the cones on their website. Any suggestions?
playin' hookie
07-30-2004, 01:58 AM
search the posts for info. There was a great post a while back on it.
Lottsa good ideas. Heres how mine turned out after reading the thread.
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The ones from speedway are very thin, I don't know how they hold up.
Go to www.theroadagents.com (http://www.theroadagents.com) & look for pictures of Pete Flavens car, its a 30 chevy coupe(black) , nailhead & a 39 truck gril Or the Red primered roadster with the caddy motor & the 39 truck grill(Alterboys must have found a stash of these!!lol) Take a look at his headers.They made them out of a curved piece of exhaust pipe,Almost looks like the piece that goes over the rear axle.Came out pretty cool , looks easy & cheap to do.
JimV
On the road agents site click on "rumble" the 2003 then go almost to the bottom & theres a picture of the 2 cars right above the babe leaning on the red scalloped P/U truck.
JimV
Taildraggin
07-30-2004, 08:59 AM
I bought a cone and made the rest up out of bits of tube.
I bolted the header flanges to a good sturdy jig before fully welding to stop the distortion.
flt-blk
07-30-2004, 09:06 AM
Here is a link to a Post I made quite awhile ago on making headers. Most of the pictures still show up.
Home made headers thread (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=261136&fpart=& PHPSESSID=)
TZ
REDDOG
07-30-2004, 09:10 AM
i built a set out of the speedway motors set, and yes they are super thin, you must be a good welder to use them, i used my tig welder, but i cant stress just how thin they were
rustyford1
07-30-2004, 09:51 AM
Flt-Blk I saw your truck at Dewey and your exhaust was one of the first things I noticed( next to the Stude motovation). Love the way they turned out. May use your idea and see what I come up with.
rustyford1
07-30-2004, 09:57 AM
I've been wondering were those guys are finding those38-39 grills. I've got four of em for my 39 and every one is smashed up at the bottom. I may be able to make one good one outta the four.
Roothawg
07-30-2004, 10:39 AM
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I've been wondering were those guys are finding those38-39 grills. I've got four of em for my 39 and every one is smashed up at the bottom. I may be able to make one good one outta the four.
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AHotRod
07-30-2004, 12:28 PM
Rusty: I used the Speedway header kit on my "A", and everything went just fine.
AHotRod
rustyford1
07-30-2004, 02:12 PM
I've really been thinking about the speedway headers but a couple of guys said that they were thin. What are they made of? That would be the easiest.
Very pretty headers can be made using 35/36 driveshafts. They have a very nice double taper. Don't mean the torque tube, Use the driveshaft inside. That's what was used in the first place.
Baron Von Mike
07-30-2004, 02:18 PM
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Here is a link to a Post I made quite awhile ago on making headers. Most of the pictures still show up.
Home made headers thread (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=261136&fpart=& PHPSESSID=)
TZ
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60's Style did a really nice post a while back on the same subject. I thought his whole series ended up on Tech, but I don't see it. Was gonna link it here.
Mike
mecutem
07-30-2004, 08:39 PM
The 35/36 ford inner driveshaft does work good if you can find one. I used some U bends from speedway and an old driveshaft for mine. The speedway tubes cost me under $25 and the metal is thick enough to make the welding a little easier this way than buying the thin wall header kits. I just cut the U bends up in the shape I needed to make the curves. Hope these pics help ya a little Steve
mecutem
07-30-2004, 08:42 PM
It really doesn't take too much effort to make a little duck bill in the tubes while fitting to make the flow a little nicer. This was my first attempt at making my own headers and I was suprised how much fun it was. Steve
flamedabone
07-30-2004, 09:17 PM
I've used the Speedway kit and the cones were just fine. That was 8 years ago...they may suck now...
These days, I use the "box of misc bends" from Speedway for, like, a hundred bucks.
Here is a mostly done shot of my A. Not quite what you are looking for...
By the way, I was nervous about building my first pair, but now I LOVE building headers..definately the funest part of building a hot rod....
Good luck, -Abone.
flamedabone
07-30-2004, 09:27 PM
Couldn't resist a shot of the Henry J mock up....
Good luck, -Abone.
bigron
07-30-2004, 10:46 PM
hey anyone have some ideas or maybe some pics on some kind of mufflers to go inside of these style headers that might be removeable.
was thinking of welding up something cone shaped with baffles.
Ragtop
07-31-2004, 03:04 PM
Any good sheey metal shop should be able to roll a cone out of fairly heavy sheet metal.Then use a header flange and a box-o-bends. I would think a muffler shop would be able to supply the flanges for the end and you could fab the caps pretty easy. I just bought a set of 409 flanges for mine and a buddy with a sheet metal roller says he can roll the cones for me. Get the thickest header flanges yoou can find and bolt them to an old head for tack welding, then weld around the inside a bit at a time taking time to let everything cool to prevent warping. Just my 2 cents worth.
LOST ANGEL
07-31-2004, 03:36 PM
Check the J.C.Whitney catalog for the muffler inserts. I just bought a pair from them and they were like under $10 each. Look in the VW ( I know, I know) section for replacement muffler inserts for those stupid megaphones they run on the back of dune buggies-MIKE http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
SimonSez
08-01-2004, 09:58 PM
I built some slip in mufflers for some lakes style headers.
The header cones I used came from Kiwi Connection, and they are tapered for a while and then have a straight section. They are quite long, so there was room for 18" of muffler.
1. Buy some perforated muffler tubing. I used 1 3/4 inch.
2. Make a 'washer' that has 1 3/4" ID and is a snug fit on the inside of the header cone and weld it on one end of the perforated tube.
3. Make a 'cup' to weld onto the other end of the perforated tube. I used a 1" strip of tube that was a slip fit inside the header and another 'washer'. Weld this onto the other end of the muffler insert.
4. Test fit it inside the header cone, and drill a hole through the bottom of the cone through the cup to hold the muffler in place.
5. Spray some high-temp exhaust paint on the welds and you are ready for packing.
5. Buy some glass-packing from an exhaust shop and wrap it tightly around the perforated tube. Use plenty - the more you use the quieter it is.
6. Push the mufflers in place, align the hole and bolt it in place. I used some anti-sieze around the outside of the 'cup' so that I have a chance of getting it out again.
They do a decent job of quitening it down from outside the car, but are quite noisy from the drivers seat.
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