348/409 Federal Mogul and Clevite #s needed

[Tman]

OK, I took the 348 to my new machinist tonight. I want to get him some part #s and make his life easy. I know F/M and Clevite make Rod and main bearings. Looks like my crank will need to go 10 under. The block needs to be line bored. I have been on a couple 409 sites but dont know if the part #s given are from the Mfgrs or just what the site uses. I dont want to pay a third party for something that I or my Machinist can order cheaper. I call it the FLATHEAD JACK REPACKAGE strategy http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I hate that, make it sound like they are the only place you can find it..at their inflated prices!

[chickenridgerods]

I don't know what the P/N's are, but the rod journals are the same size as BBC, if that makes it any easier for you.

[Travis]

Thanks to www.MR409.COM... (http://www.MR409.COM...)

19) INTERCHANGING PARTS: What 409 parts interchange with big block and small block Chevys?

Valve springs for 340 hp same as small-block Chevy. However, high performance springs are NOT interchangeable with big-block Chevy springs which are longer.

Oil filter is early small/big block.

Oil pump is small block.

Oil pump shaft is big block.

Rod bearings are big block.

Fuel pump pushrod is small/big block.

Fuel pump plate is small block.

Fuel pump is small block.

Water pump bearings/seals/impeller are small block.

Timing cover seal is small block.

Rear main seal is big block.

Pulley from small block short water pump style fit.

Pulley from small block short water pump style fit.

Distributor gear is small/big block.

Distributor points, condenser, vacuum advance, cap are early small/big block.

You can also order all this crap through this guy, too.

Travis

[Tman]

Thanks guys, travis,I have lots of that info in my notes nut yours is better organized!!!!!

Any ideas on P/Ns?

I know my guy can find em from his suppliers but I wanna help it along. He has been building motors for the last year or so and has more Sprint Car mills under his belt than anything. Kid knows his shit, he asked the right questions when I dropped off the mill. I am Guinea Pigging him with my motor and he knows I will reccomendo him to many others if he does well. Our 2 shops in town dont have a stellar record, he is an hour north of me.

[Travis]

T-

That's not mine... That's a copy and paste from MR. 409! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I do suggest maybe buying a kit from that dude... might be cheaper for you in the long run.

Travis

[AHotRod]

"T": I work for Federal Mogul, so here ya go.

Rod bearings: Sealed Power #3190CP
Available in: STD-1-2-10-20-30-40

Main bearings: Sealed Power #4036M
Available in: STD-10-20

Cam bearings: Sealed Power #1177M

If you need anything else, let me know!

Glenn
AHotRod

Oh, maybe you can help me out on some parts suggestions also!

[Rocky]

Holy shit, Glenn...I didn't know you could get 0.040 under rod bearings! That's takin off a lot of metal.

[AHotRod]

Oh yea, Hell Rocky, most all Professional Race engine builders are using rod bearing journals that are the same size as a Honda 4 cyl....in motors that make 800-1500 HP!
We offer some engine bearings up to 60 ths undersize.
Glenn

[Tman]

Thanks Glenn, I knew you would see this post http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif. I will get those #s to Austin, he is hooked up with ya'all.

[AHotRod]

Your Welcome "T" !

[Travis]

Glenn-

When my stuff needs a rebuild, I can come see you, right?

Travis

[AHotRod]

Sure Can !

[Tman]

Thanks Glenn, I gave my #s to Austin. He was glad to see that you guys make mains in 20. Clevite didnt list any....whew! By the time I called him, he had already done leg work on my motor, I am a few hundred dollars while he makes his money with 20K race motors!!!!!!! I felt good about him. BTW, his motors have been whupping Gaerte motors at our local track! AND holding up. Damn!

[AHotRod]

"T": ANYONE who builds a engine that can kick Guerdies engines has been doing there home work.

Glenn
AHotRod

[skyspop]

Hey guys,I have a few 348's and just recently bought a 64 409 that I plan on putting in a 62 belair sedan,(wish I could find a 62 motor,but this one took over a year to get)Glen,I could use some guts from you also,Do you have a website/store? I know of a few 409 sites also,but would rather deal with someone who actually uses this stuff,and knows their limits.Mine is only a 340 horse,with 817 heads,but would like to get 400 at least.I plan on mating it up to a close ratio muncie,and prolly just run one four barrel. Thanks patrick

[daveydeuce]

"T": I work for Federal Mogul, so here ya go.

Rod bearings: Sealed Power #3190CP
Available in: STD-1-2-10-20-30-40

Main bearings: Sealed Power #4036M
Available in: STD-10-20

Cam bearings: Sealed Power #1177M

If you need anything else, let me know!

Glenn
AHotRod

Oh, maybe you can help me out on some parts suggestions also!


Glenn,
Can you post this the tech/archives on the board as it will come up again, I will use it for my 348s and 09s. Thanx from all us "W" fans!!

[AHotRod]

Glenn,
Can you post this the tech/archives on the board as it will come up again, I will use it for my 348s and 09s. Thanx from all us "W" fans!!

Well, I don't have the power to put it over there, you'll have to ask RASHY or ROCKY .........