View Full Version : Press Release cc The Death of Sean Howard
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 01:12 PM
First of all I would like to thank Ryan for allowing me to post this, he's been really cool about this and all of us here appreciste it.
This is the press release being issued today in our battle to bring Seans's killer to justice. Please copy the next post and send to everyone in your distro list. Send it to all your area news medias, anyone you can think of.This will go out on the newswires in a couple of hours or so and will go on 4,000 news sites nationally. It will also go electronically to all newspaper, radio and TV in
OK, but we need to follow up as much as possible to get them to run it.
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 01:12 PM
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Attention: News Editor
JUSTICE BETRAYED?
Tulsa D.A. refuses to prosecute brutal slaying in midst of violent crime
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TULSA, Okla. -- July 27, 2004 - The family of a slain businessman, Shawn
Howard, is seeking justice for their son in a case that has many questioning
the judgment of the Tulsa County prosecutor's office.
On June 25, Mr. Howard, owner of a downtown tavern, located at 23 North
Cheyenne Avenue, died from wounds received during an assault by a vagrant in
the early morning hours of June 24. Howard was hit in the head as many as 10
times with a steel pipe. His teeth were broken out. His skull was destroyed.
The killer pursued Howard after he was left stunned and helpless. Howard was
attempting to flee when he was hit from behind. After the victim was
rendered unconscious, his killer beat him savagely. Tavern manager Josh
Martin was also severely beaten.
The night of the attack, Terry Badgewell, a transient with a documented
history of violent crime, fled the crime scene and was later arrested on two
complaints of assault with a deadly weapon. He was covered in the blood of
Martin and Howard. Howard's family and friends trusted that charges would be
filed.
They were wrong.
Without even interviewing Martin, the only witness to the killing, Tulsa
District Attorney Tim Harris declined to press charges and released
Badgewell on the grounds of self-defense. Why? Because, in part, Howard
struck Badgewell with a single light blow with a set of brass knuckles he
was carrying for protection while transferring receipts for deposit. The
eye witness stated Howard was attempting to warn Badgewell away. Indeed,
Badgewell's booking photo showed no visible marks of any kind.
The decision has created a polarizing firestorm of discussion and
speculation among local residents that leaves many scratching their heads.
The police investigation came to a halt after Harris' announcement.
The Howard family is, however, determined to expose the facts, protect their
son's memory, and pursue justice for him.
"We just want the facts of this case to come into the open, and let the
chips fall where they may," Kay Howard, Shawn's mother, said. "We wanted
our report to be objective, and we think it is."
Based on the D.A.'s pledge to the family that he would consider any
additional evidence they uncovered, an attorney was hired to conduct an
investigation, produce a report and share the results with Harris, who asked
for a copy.
The family had faith in the D.A.'s promise. That faith was soon betrayed.
Two days before a meeting was to occur, the family was shocked to read the
D.A.'s office statement to the press: They revealed that the upcoming
meeting was merely a matter of "courtesy to the family", and that, in
effect, their minds were closed.
Mrs. Howard reacted with bewilderment. "We did everything we could. If they
have additional information, as they have implied, they at least need to
show it to us. After all, we've shared our information with them."
The family's attorney stated: "Under the law, this was not an act of
'self-defense.' Lethal, disproportionate force was used after any credible
claim of threat from Shawn toward his killer has disappeared."
Harris has been repeatedly criticized in the community for what seem to be
inexplicable decisions not to prosecute violent crimes. This leaves
residents struggling to cope with a skyrocketing crime rate that has sent
Tulsa into the top 15 cities in the nation, prompting Attorney General John
Ashcroft to deploy a task force of FBI agents to help local law enforcement
cope.
Citizens who look forward to the success of the City's revitalization
projects are concerned that safety issues may become a major stumbling
block. And those residents outraged at the D.A.'s refusal feel their only
option is to gather the 5,000 signatures necessary to petition to constitute
a Grand Jury under the Oklahoma Constitution. Mrs. Howard comments: "Shawn
worked tirelessly to make downtown a safer, more interesting place. All we
want is justice for Shawn."
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Contact:
Email: [Email]justiceforshawn@userspace.org /Email]
Resources and investigative report requests available online:
http://www.justiceforshawn.userspace.org
Action Girl
07-28-2004, 01:18 PM
This ia an excellent press release. I will do my part and foraward it to my contacts.
Stacey
hankcash
07-28-2004, 01:20 PM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Jester
07-28-2004, 01:26 PM
has anyone sent this to Bill O'reilly or Sean Hennity yet? I bet they would read it on their shows.
flt-blk
07-28-2004, 01:28 PM
How do I log on to read the report, it is asking for a password?
TZ
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 01:30 PM
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Gracie
07-28-2004, 01:32 PM
Shawn shoulda had a gun instead of brass knuckles. Then maybe he would still be here and the scumbag would be the one that's gone.
And this is coming from someone who hates guns!
Our justice system is fucked.
Jester
07-28-2004, 01:42 PM
E-mailed to The "Hope Star", "Texarkana Gazette", and the "Arkansas Gazette". I won't get my hopes up that they will actually run it but hey you gotta try.
Steve
07-28-2004, 01:43 PM
jester I was thinking about that myself.
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 01:47 PM
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has anyone sent this to Bill O'reilly or Sean Hennity yet? I bet they would read it on their shows.
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Just added their names to the list - thanks
Jester
07-28-2004, 01:50 PM
I also sent an email to each of them just now.
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 01:51 PM
you rock!
Fucking pitiful!
And there are people spending life sentences for growing pot.
Our legal system is fucked up.
It's revolution time.
SamIAm
07-28-2004, 02:21 PM
hey - the attorney doesn't want the investigative report posted to the website. press agencies can put in an email request for the full report and he'll decide who gets it since it is a legal document. if you want to know what it says, the tulsa world covered most of the details yesterday.
thanks everyone!
sam
Jack Daniel
07-28-2004, 02:43 PM
bttt
hankcash
07-28-2004, 02:46 PM
[ QUOTE ]
hey - the attorney doesn't want the investigative report posted to the website. press agencies can put in an email request for the full report and he'll decide who gets it since it is a legal document. if you want to know what it says, the tulsa world covered most of the details yesterday.
thanks everyone!
sam
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Can someone with access to the report post it please?
I am not gonna pay $7.00 to Tulsa World to read an article!!!!
thanks-
HC
RocketDaemon
07-28-2004, 02:57 PM
please use edit to change the post so its already there...
so its right from the begnining when people will copy and spread it
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 03:03 PM
press release post has been edited to show the updated information
LL
RocketDaemon
07-28-2004, 03:13 PM
seems the email adress isnt written correctly doesn't show it fully
Deyomatic
07-28-2004, 03:25 PM
I sent something ti CNN a month ago, and I'll forward this to them.
I'm with Nads.
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 03:27 PM
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seems the email adress isnt written correctly doesn't show it fully
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email addy is corrected - thank you
Deyomatic
07-28-2004, 03:48 PM
If someone were to make up stickers that said something to the effect of..
"Tulsa D.A. Tim Harris: the fox watching the chickens"
Or
"Tulsa D.A. Tim Harris: The biggest criminal in Oklahoma"
Or
"Oklahoma is NOT OK with Tulsa D.A. Tim Harris"
I'd put one on every car I own.
Just a thought.
kustombuilder
07-28-2004, 03:53 PM
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Fucking pitiful!
And there are people spending life sentences for growing pot.
Our legal system is fucked up.
It's revolution time.
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fuckin-A right Nads!!!
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 04:38 PM
HELL YEHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
check it out
http://www.send2press.com/PRnetwire/pr04_072802-shawn-howard.shtml
it's google news - we're off to a good start
RocketDaemon
07-28-2004, 04:44 PM
i really hope there will be justice!
there must be
cleatus
07-28-2004, 05:03 PM
What the fuck is wrong with America?
A vagrant clubs a man to death (along with beating another) then flees the scene and they let him walk.
Do they think Sean just felt like going outside and beating some vagrants - therefore the guy was just defending himself?
Fucking clueless.
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 05:47 PM
BTTT
**DONOTDELETE**
07-28-2004, 06:01 PM
Not to get off the subject of the press release but i was doing a search to see the progress and came upon this...mabye we should forward this tribute to all of the people trying to get this case ignored..
http://homepage.mac.com/chuckpharris/iMovieTheater1.html
Unkl Ian
07-28-2004, 06:14 PM
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Do they think Sean just felt like going outside and beating some vagrants - therefore the guy was just defending himself?
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The Lawyer who did the Press Release has got it right.
EVERYONE has the right to defend themselves when threatened.
This right can include deadly force IF THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION.
HOWEVER,to continue to assault someone,
after they have been knocked unconcious,
is no longer self defence.
Any threat that person may have posed has been removed.
They are no longer a threat.
The accused had several options at that point in time.
He chose to continune his assault,on a man who could no longer fight back.
And THAT is when it stopped being self defence.
Unfortunately,the laws involved are written in a confusing and contradictory way.
For more,use your favorite seach engine to look for "self defence defence".
BLAKE
07-28-2004, 07:02 PM
The thing in this press release that really got me was that Harris never interviewed Martin...? How the hell could Harris decide this was self-defense without interviewing the only witness? Hell, THAT alone should shine some light on this screwed up situation.
CURIOUS RASH
07-28-2004, 07:24 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Not to get off the subject of the press release but i was doing a search to see the progress and came upon this...mabye we should forward this tribute to all of the people trying to get this case ignored..
http://homepage.mac.com/chuckpharris/iMovieTheater1.html
[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">
I can't watch that again but I suggest that everyone sees it.
Beautifully done and a direct view into his sisters soul and the void that has been left there.
RASHY </font>
CURIOUS RASH
07-28-2004, 07:27 PM
[ QUOTE ]
The thing in this press release that really got me was that Harris never interviewed Martin...? How the hell could Harris decide this was self-defense without interviewing the only witness? Hell, THAT alone should shine some light on this screwed up situation.
[/ QUOTE ]
<font color="green"> Another thing that has been WAY overlooked is the evidence on Josh himself.
His entire forearms were cut and scraped, clearly defense wounds.
Just picture a man putting his arms up in front of his face to shield himself as he's being beaten with a pipe with a jagged end on it and that's exactly the wounds that were on Josh.
Hurt just to look at it.
I wonder if there are pictures?
</font>
RASHY
LoungeLife
07-28-2004, 07:36 PM
You shoulda been there when I cut the staples out of his head so he didn't have to pay the doctor to hospital to do it.
hankcash
07-28-2004, 07:39 PM
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You shoulda been there when I cut the staples out of his head so he didn't have to pay the doctor to hospital to do it.
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Save me the staples so I can shove them up Tim Harris's ASS!
HC
Church
07-28-2004, 07:44 PM
Geez Sulli. That just gave me the chills!
suedesled
07-28-2004, 07:59 PM
If somebody would post the most direct phone number to the D.A.s office and then spread the number around; start a phone campaign. They'll do something if enough people harass them!
C. Montgomery
07-28-2004, 08:39 PM
been sent to the "Austin American Statesman" and the "Austin Chronicle"
CURIOUS RASH
07-28-2004, 09:04 PM
[ QUOTE ]
If somebody would post the most direct phone number to the D.A.s office and then spread the number around; start a phone campaign. They'll do something if enough people harass them!
[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">You would think,
But we already did that.
Here's the deal...
There is absolutely NO way Tim Harris will cahnge his mind now.
What message would that send?
That he is finally admitting that he made a BAD decision or that he is just finally realizing it?
Either way, it will be easier for him to wide the wave in hopes that all have forgotten when he is up for election in 2006.
Or so he thinks.
We need to make sure he is not re-elected, hell, he ran UNOPPOSED last election.
I have been wondering this...
What happens WHEN we get the 5000 signatures?
We will get a grand jury trial, but where?
How does this work?
Surely Harris will not be involved.
Is Grand Jury on the state level?
RASHY
Oh, SUPER HUGE THANKS to RYAN.
You have been incredibly lenient and I truly appreciate it.
No more "gender dysphoria" jokes aimed at you.
Oh yeah, if you never read the "gender dysphoria" comment, there wasn't one....or if there was, 1Low made it. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
LOVE YOU SWEET CHEEKS,
RASHY </font>
REVEREND JAKE
07-28-2004, 10:44 PM
Norma and I are of the assumption the fuckhead won't do anything because Badgewell is mentally ill. That matters big time when it comes to prosecution. Vern told me yesterday that the homeless guy who hung out at Deadtown with the chrome basket got killed over $20 by his roomate. WTF???? I didn't know the dude, but he seemed humble and harmless.
Rev. Jake TooCool
CURIOUS RASH
07-28-2004, 10:49 PM
<font color="green">Chrome basket?
You talking about the jerky guy?
Sexton told me about this one also. </font>
Unkl Ian
07-28-2004, 10:56 PM
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the fuckhead won't do anything because Badgewell is mentally ill.
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So that is enough to let him walk on a murder charge ? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
All the more reason he shouldn't be free.
If the DA gets enough heat from upstairs,his mind will change.
And if the people upstairs get enough heat,they will change his mind for him.
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Can anyone sign this petition ? Or do you need to be local ?
5000 sounds like alot,but probably wouldn't be that hard.
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What sort of qualifications do you need to run for D.A. ?
I can se it now,headlines on the local papars:
"Curious Rash defeats incumbent Dumb Ass by a land slide"
CURIOUS RASH
07-28-2004, 11:39 PM
<font color="green">Ian,
The petition has to be signed by Tulsa County residents.
Here it is in Google News...
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&ie=ascii&q=shawn+howard </font>
hankcash
07-28-2004, 11:57 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Not to get off the subject of the press release but i was doing a search to see the progress and came upon this...mabye we should forward this tribute to all of the people trying to get this case ignored..
http://homepage.mac.com/chuckpharris/iMovieTheater1.html
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Fuck!
I have been avoiding watching this for a while...
I just got the nerve to watch it and all I can do is bawl my eyes out!
This is a public forum...
anyone can read this and I know that..
so all I have to say is
FUCK YOU TIM HARRIS!
FUCK YOU TERRY BADGEWELL!
I HATE YOU BOTH WITH A PASSION THAT WILL BURN WITH ME ALL OF MY LIFE, THE SAME PASSION THAT WILL WATCH YOU BOTH BURN IN HELL!
Jeff Wood
CURIOUS RASH
07-29-2004, 12:42 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Not to get off the subject of the press release but i was doing a search to see the progress and came upon this...mabye we should forward this tribute to all of the people trying to get this case ignored..
http://homepage.mac.com/chuckpharris/iMovieTheater1.html
[/ QUOTE ]
Fuck!
I have been avoiding watching this for a while...
I just got the nerve to watch it and all I can do is bawl my eyes out!
This is a public forum...
anyone can read this and I know that..
so all I have to say is
FUCK YOU TIM HARRIS!
FUCK YOU TERRY BADGEWELL!
I HATE YOU BOTH WITH A PASSION THAT WILL BURN WITH ME ALL OF MY LIFE, THE SAME PASSION THAT WILL WATCH YOU BOTH BURN IN HELL!
Jeff Wood
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<font color="green"> Tell me about it...</font>
suedesled
07-29-2004, 01:33 AM
VIGILANTE JUSTICE! think about it.
Neppy
07-29-2004, 01:55 AM
<font color="green"> I've sent this to every single person in every single department of every single TV news organization that I could. Gonna start on the newspapers next. Then radio. We will get this brought to the attention of the nation.
Timmy! Harris and Terry Badgewell deserve each other. </font>
mybeatupford
07-29-2004, 02:41 AM
(VIGILANTE JUSTICE! think about it. )
i'm with him on that one
Steve
07-29-2004, 02:50 AM
I can't believe this dickwad DA hankcash don't feel bad about what you said I and probably everone on here understands this is bullshit and something needs to be done about it. self defense my ass. self defense doesn't involve smashing someones skull.
HotRod60F100
07-29-2004, 03:14 AM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif its Too bad that 'THE PUNISHER'is only a comic charactor or else 'Frank Castle' woulda had that fuckers balls on a pike!!
Donzie
07-29-2004, 09:00 AM
I work for a small newspaper in Michigan.
Here is an email address for our managing editor, ralphewirtz@mdn.net
Don't get your hopes up as they focus more on local content but it's worth a shot.
You must include your name, address and phone.
I would submit it but being an employee, they frown on us submitting articles unless they're actually written by us.
LoungeLife
07-29-2004, 11:07 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I work for a small newspaper in Michigan.
Here is an email address for our managing editor, ralphewirtz@mdn.net
Don't get your hopes up as they focus more on local content but it's worth a shot.
You must include your name, address and phone.
I would submit it but being an employee, they frown on us submitting articles unless they're actually written by us.
[/ QUOTE ]
PR sent, thanks Donzie. I only sent the press release, you could write the article.
LL
hankcash
07-29-2004, 01:07 PM
This is the enemy...
DICK!
Chopped50Ford
07-29-2004, 01:36 PM
Send it to the State Attorney General and State Govenor,
this is B.S. and the law aint right.
SamIAm
07-29-2004, 02:05 PM
we need 5,000 signatures with addresses that have to be verified against voter registration rolls. that's a lot of work and some won't be verifiable so we really need 6000.
if we get it the AG will assign a prosecutor from another county to try the case. can you imagine how bad harris would look if the prosecutor wins the case?
Unkl Ian
07-29-2004, 02:11 PM
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that's a lot of work and some won't be verifiable so we really need 6000.
[/ QUOTE ]
Probably not as hard as it sounds.And the results would be worth it.
SamIAm
07-29-2004, 02:14 PM
If we can get 25 people to commit to getting 250 signatures each we're done. Anyone want to volunteer? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
kustomd
07-29-2004, 02:46 PM
That was a great film.... It is hard to watch and I didn't even really know him. In fact I had to shut it off once because it was making my wife cry watching it.
All I can say is this if the DA won't do anything about it, not trying to start anything but.. what about a bounty on bitchwells head at least get him off the streets. not that I would ever do anything like that I was just thinking thats all. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
hankcash
07-29-2004, 02:50 PM
OK, first of all...
put a petition at Deadtown...
2nd, have everyone in the Deadtown circle with day jobs take petitions to work...
Monkey is at OSU
Ryan, aren't you at verizon?
Rashy is in a big office
Sexton's girl Karie works at a DR office
That's got top add up to about 1K worh of signatures right there...
next, go to local concert events... it is easy to get teens to sign petitions like this (especially at Dave matthews type shows... liberal college students)
Next, go to all of the local business' around Deadtown...
there's another chunk of signatures....
I think you will get 5000 easier than you think...
Too bad that the signatures have to be from tulsa residents, or we would have the signatures already from HAMBers....
KICK HIS ASS SEA BASS!!!
HC
You guys aren't gunna believe this. I sent the press release out to the mailing list for my car club, Negative Camber (there are about 500 of us across the USA) and this is the response I got from one of the guys in the club.
A guy I know from fullsizechevy.com is related to the Republican Rep for Oklahoma (http://www.odl.state.ok.us/usinfo/congress/106cong/largent106.htm) he passed the story on to him, and he's passing it on to some of his people that can try to get something done. He can't say for sure anything will be done, but he is going to apply some pressure in the right direction.
Wheelchair Mike //NC-TX\\
LoungeLife
07-29-2004, 03:56 PM
Not with Verizon, close though - MCI, got a pretty strict policy on things like petitions and advertising here.
Lets make this a little more interesting - as an incentive -I'm offering a night with Hankcash to whomever scores the most signatures. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
LL
LoungeLife
07-29-2004, 03:57 PM
[ QUOTE ]
You guys aren't gunna believe this. I sent the press release out to the mailing list for my car club, Negative Camber (there are about 500 of us across the USA) and this is the response I got from one of the guys in the club.
A guy I know from fullsizechevy.com is related to the Republican Rep for Oklahoma (http://www.odl.state.ok.us/usinfo/congress/106cong/largent106.htm) he passed the story on to him, and he's passing it on to some of his people that can try to get something done. He can't say for sure anything will be done, but he is going to apply some pressure in the right direction.
Wheelchair Mike //NC-TX\\
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OGNC - you kick so much ass I can't even tell you!!!!!
You guys can also send letters to him to encourage him to follow up on this. Here is the link to his information. Steve Largent, Rep for OK (http://www.odl.state.ok.us/usinfo/congress/106cong/largent106.htm)
hankcash
07-29-2004, 04:16 PM
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You guys can also send letters to him to encourage him to follow up on this. Here is the link to his information. Steve Largent, Rep for OK (http://www.odl.state.ok.us/usinfo/congress/106cong/largent106.htm)
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link no worky....
HC
Cut and paste this...
http://www.odl.state.ok.us/usinfo/congress/106cong/largent106.htm
LoungeLife
07-29-2004, 05:20 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Lets make this a little more interesting - as an incentive -I'm offering a night with Hankcash to whomever scores the most signatures. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
LL
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No takers huh? Ok - person with the least amount of signatures gets a night with Hankcash.
55olds88
07-29-2004, 05:59 PM
That is well and truley fucked up, hell the Aussies had a security Guard on tele the other night all beaten up who was looking at being charged for murder over shooting her asailant and I thaught that was fucked up.
In Seans case you would imagine that they would at least prosecute for asaulting the other bloke if all else fails ??
In my eyes, the self defence thing (other thne being B/S )would surley end once the person you were allegedly defending your self from retreats or stops attacking ?? pretty hard to be a threat when you are unconsious......
But what do I know, this dufus spent years furthering his education to be able to make rulings like ths !!!! Wouldn't happen to a member of his family.....
chancellor
07-29-2004, 06:04 PM
Hankcash -- Here you go.
-- Chancellor.
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Family of slain bar owner to meet with a prosecutor
NICOLE MARSHALL World Staff Writer
07/27/2004
Tulsa World (Final Home Edition), Page A9 of News
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He was not working at the bar that night but had gone there with his girlfriend to celebrate an anniversary.
Click on a thumbnail above to view photos.
They hope to get charges filed in the man's fatal fight with a homeless man.
The family of a bar owner who was beaten to death during a fight with a homeless man is scheduled to meet with a prosecutor Thursday to try to persuade him to file charges in the case.
District Attorney Tim Harris had declined to file charges against Terry BADGEWELL on June 30, and BADGEWELL was released from the Tulsa Jail.
Deadtown Tavern bar owner Shawn Howard died June 25, one day after being hospitalized with severe head wounds.
Police arrested BADGEWELL, 38, on assault complaints alleging that he had beaten Howard and bar manager Josh Martin with a pipe about a block from the bar.
Harris said evidence uncovered in the investigation "supported BADGEWELL's claim that he acted in self-defense."
Howard's mother, Kay Howard, said that "I just feel there needs to be some justice for Shawn. I feel there is a lot of misinformation out there. People don't know what happened, and rumors are making it harder. I just feel it is unfair that he is being remembered as a violent aggressor."
The family is being represented by lawyer Richard Hix. He said he investigated the case and compiled a report that was provided to prosecutors.
First Assistant District Attorney Doug Drummond said he is scheduled to meet with the family Thursday.
Drummond also said prosecutors have reviewed the report and describe it as "not objective and incomplete."
"It bases many of its conclusions on interviews with only a few persons and is obviously subjective. However, as a courtesy to the family, we have shown it to the Tulsa Police Department for their review.
"Our initial review showed that there was little, if anything, in the report that is new and helpful to any potential prosecution. There are statements, however, that could very well be problematic for prosecutors should the case ever be filed," Drummond said.
"Prior to the report being done, we respectfully suggested to the Howards' attorney that any independent investigation would not be prudent," he said. "The reason for that is that investigations compiled by someone other than the assigned law enforcement agency, in our experience, does not usually help the prosecution of a case. It may very well hurt the case."
Hix said he included both negative and positive information in the interest of full disclosure and quelling rumors.
"There are things in there that are both positive and negative. We did not want to leave any surprises," he said.
Most of the information came from interviews with Martin, and Hix said Martin has been honest -- even providing information that could be viewed as negative.
Hix's report states that Howard and Martin were carrying brass knuckles the night of the confrontation. They started carrying them recently "because of the rough neighborhood and the fact that they often carried sizable deposits from the bar," the report says.
Martin managed the bar at 23 N. Cheyenne Ave. that night, but Howard was not working and had gone there with his girlfriend, Shayna Krieger, to celebrate their one-year dating anniversary.
Over the course of four to five hours, Howard had a few beers and one shot, the report states. He was sober when he decided to leave the bar about 4 a.m. after being there after hours to plan an upcoming event.
Martin drank very little that evening, Hix stated.
When they left the bar, they saw two men whom they had previously seen selling drugs in the area and whom they had warned to stay away, so Howard and Martin chased them, the report says.
They were walking in a poorly lit vacant lot at Denver Avenue and Archer Street when they saw BADGEWELL walking toward them, according to Hix's report.
Howard and BADGEWELL began arguing, and Howard hit BADGEWELL "lightly on the left side of his jaw, with the brass knuckles on his hand. Apparently, Shawn was trying to scare and warn BADGEWELL without hurting him; the police photos taken of BADGEWELL's face the next day are clear and show no sign of bruising or any other mark," the report states.
After further confrontation, BADGEWELL reportedly armed himself with a pipe and struck Howard, who fell to the ground, apparently unconscious.
Martin said he caught BADGEWELL's attention and was struck several times with the pipe, Hix's report states. Martin said he never took out his brass knuckles and never landed a blow against BADGEWELL.
Martin told Hix that Howard managed to get up while Martin and BADGEWELL were struggling. BADGEWELL ran toward Howard and struck him and continued to strike him while he was on the ground, motionless, the report says.
Martin ran back to the bar to get a licensed firearm that was there, the report states. There he met Krieger and Jennifer Chancellor, who were both waiting outside.
Chancellor, a Tulsa World page designer, had been dating Martin for a short time.
The women called 911, and Martin ran back to help Howard, who was bleeding badly from mouth and head wounds. His skull was fractured and crushed; his teeth were broken; and he was having trouble breathing, the report says.
The Medical Examiner's Office has ruled that Howard's cause of death was "craniocerebral injuries due to blunt head trauma," and the manner is listed as homicide.
But the autopsy report, which could detail how many times he was struck, has not yet been completed because the results of some tests are still outstanding.
Hix said the family was told at the hospital that Howard was struck eight to 15 times.
The family asserts that the level of violence Howard suffered went beyond self-defense and that Howard was struck repeatedly while he was down, debilitated and trying to flee.
Hix said many unsubstantiated rumors have circulated concerning the case. He said neither Martin nor Howard had ever sought out confrontations with homeless people.
While there were occasional confrontations "between people at the Tavern and vagrants," Howard provided part-time employment for certain homeless people who helped clean up the area, Hix said.
Martin had once "physically accosted a vagrant -- with minimal force -- who was breaking into cars, and had struck (once) another who had repeatedly attempted to sell stolen property on the premises, and had been warned to stay away," the report states.
Rumors also have circulated that the bar had once printed T-shirts lettered "F--- The Homeless."
"While true, this was an attempt, perhaps a politically incorrect one, at humor, and reflected no intent to harm anyone," the report states.
Since BADGEWELL's release from jail, he has been seen by witnesses in the area of 11th Street and Utica Avenue approaching passers-by and carrying a sign that said something such as "will work for food," according to Hix's report.
He said the family believes that BADGEWELL is a danger to the community.
Drummond said Harris has met previously with Howard's parents and with others involved in the case and explained why the District Attorney's Office decided not to file charges.
The family also was told that prosecutors would review any new, significant evidence that surfaced.
Making prosecutorial decisions is difficult, he said.
"You have family and friends who have lost a loved one, and they are highly emotional, which is understandable. Mr. Howard had a lot of loving friends and family, without question. But our job is to take a step back and objectively review the evidence," Drummond said.
"We did that to our best ability and made this decision."
Hix said it would be hopeless for the family to file a lawsuit against BADGEWELL.
But the family will continue to seek charges, and those efforts might include circulating a petition, he said.
Kay Howard described her son as a wonderful and bright young man and said he worked hard to revitalize the downtown area where the bar is located.
She said she prays that someone is held accountable for his death.
"Shawn deserves that. I always have hope that it will happen," she said.
Shawn's brother has stepped in to own and operate the bar, she said.
"We wanted to keep it open for Shawn," Kay Howard said. "He worked too hard to let that all go. I would hate to see all of his hard work die."
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Nicole Marshall 581-8459
nicole.marshall@tulsaworld.com
chancellor
07-29-2004, 06:07 PM
<font color="green"> I wonder if there are pictures?
</font>
RASHY
[/ QUOTE ]
The detectives too pix, but they're now evidence, and we can't get to them.
chancellor
07-29-2004, 06:10 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have been wondering this...
What happens WHEN we get the 5000 signatures?
We will get a grand jury trial, but where?
How does this work?
Surely Harris will not be involved.
Is Grand Jury on the state level?
RASHY
RASHY </font>
[/ QUOTE ]
Well, the grand jury would be held out of county and tried by a DA in another county. which means, in the long tern, if this petition thing works, tim harris would look like a total ass. especially if the case is prosecuted and badgewell gets sent to prison.
-- Chance.
SamIAm
07-29-2004, 06:13 PM
if i'm not mistaken i think it will be held here in tulsa county but they'll assign a DA from another county to the case...minor point, not much difference.
chancellor
07-29-2004, 06:13 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Vern told me yesterday that the homeless guy who hung out at Deadtown with the chrome basket got killed over $20 by his roomate. WTF???? I didn't know the dude, but he seemed humble and harmless.
Rev. Jake TooCool
[/ QUOTE ]
Yeah, don't know if anyone remembers, but the guy wasn't exactly homeless. But he was in pretty bad shape. He went to Shawn's funeral -- He was the skinny, old, gray-bearded guy in a sweatshirt. He rode up there with big Paul, his girlfriend, Josh and me.
-- Chance.
chancellor
07-29-2004, 06:15 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
http://homepage.mac.com/chuckpharris/iMovieTheater1.html
[/ QUOTE ]
Fuck!
I have been avoiding watching this for a while...
I just got the nerve to watch it and all I can do is bawl my eyes out!
[/ QUOTE ]
Amen. I did the same thing today. I just couldn't stop myself, and I bawled. It's kinda embarassing when I'm at work, but fuck it. I needed to do it.
TIM HARRIS (hearts) MURDERERS
yorgatron
07-30-2004, 05:29 AM
http://www.bartcop.com/shawn.htm
Ichoptop
07-30-2004, 09:19 AM
So I "Kinda" understand why they wont file charges with Shawn beating but did this guy also assault the bar manager? Why not file charges with the assault on him? Even the counties report said that he didnt provoke the fight.
SamIAm
07-30-2004, 10:19 AM
[ QUOTE ]
So I "Kinda" understand why they wont file charges with Shawn beating but did this guy also assault the bar manager? Why not file charges with the assault on him? Even the counties report said that he didnt provoke the fight.
[/ QUOTE ]
i would assume the reasoning goes that the manager went at badgewell so that also was self defense. when in fact, the manager went at badgewell to keep him from striking shawn when he was already lying on the ground.
have you seen the county's report?
hankcash
07-30-2004, 10:25 AM
[ QUOTE ]
So I "Kinda" understand why they wont file charges with Shawn beating but did this guy also assault the bar manager? Why not file charges with the assault on him? Even the counties report said that he didnt provoke the fight.
[/ QUOTE ]
You "Kinda" understand that self defense is when your supposed attacker is unconsious and no longer a threat, you should continue to beat him to DEATH in the head with a steel pipe??????
That is not self defense my friend... that is MURDER and charges should have been filed!!!!!!
this "kinda" pisses me off....
HC
CURIOUS RASH
07-30-2004, 11:25 AM
[ QUOTE ]
So I "Kinda" understand why they wont file charges with Shawn beating but did this guy also assault the bar manager? Why not file charges with the assault on him? Even the counties report said that he didnt provoke the fight.
[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">
I just can't respond to another person that understands how this is alright.
You never start a fight?
Did you deserve to die for it?
I'm spent.
RASHY </font>
CURIOUS RASH
07-30-2004, 11:31 AM
<font color="green">Hell,
You know what?
My own post is bullshit, Shawn didn't start it up with Badgewell, Badgewell started the shit weeks before.
RASHY </font>
LoungeLife
07-30-2004, 11:32 AM
this is from the newswire service that we used:
I thought it worth mentioning that your news release has the distinction
of
> being the "most read" release in its first 2 days of any release we've
ever
> published.
Ichoptop
07-30-2004, 11:37 AM
lets not get are undies in a bunch. "KINDA" was ment to mean I can see where the DA isn't willing to press charges with a weapon vs. weapon confrontation, it happens all the time mostly in an election year. I don't want to get into a big discussion about it. It is a sad situation and I wasn't there so I have no opionion on the actual confrontation. I pray for the people who loved Shawn and hope they can eventually find peace.
hankcash
07-30-2004, 11:46 AM
[ QUOTE ]
lets not get are undies in a bunch. "KINDA" was ment to mean I can see where the DA isn't willing to press charges with a weapon vs. weapon confrontation, it happens all the time mostly in an election year. I don't want to get into a big discussion about it. It is a sad situation and I wasn't there so I have no opionion on the actual confrontation. I pray for the people who loved Shawn and hope they can eventually find peace.
[/ QUOTE ]
I know that you mean no harm, but some of us are very defensive about the subject....
A weapon vs. weapon confrontation is different from a "I'll beat your head in with a steel fucking pipe AFTER I knock you unconsious"...confrontation!
again, I know that you mean no harm or disrespect, but I do not understand why the DA did not charge Badgewell.... never will understand... NOT EVEN "KINDA" UNDERSTAND... NEVER!
HC
Byron Crump
07-30-2004, 11:49 AM
Rashy and HC, I think some of these guys are comming from the point of view that they can understand why the DA did what he did on a certain level because many would say they went looking for trouble and that they started it with the first blow. Remember, facts get lost in rumor, fantasy, gossip, and most people do not listen fully or read fully and make a judgement in less than 20 seconds.
If you kind of stand back from it without the emotion it is real easy to see how somebody would say they should not have gone looking for trouble. I don't think when alot of people say things like that they are rooting for the killer or anything...it's the whole story that hurts the case.
That is a huge huge problem with this...that the guy was hit first blah blah. Some people will say "ur buddy got what he deserved." If the shoe was on the other foot and this guy had hit our guy first and then our guy beat him to death with brass knuckles alot of people would be "hell yeah" and "vigilante justice baby."
I myself have a issue with the brass knuckles/hitting first thing. That being said you know I do not think street scum boy needed to keep beating...it was above and beyond.
In no way shape or form should a DA decide street scums fate...that is up to a jury pure and simple. That is what I want and why I am concerned and upset about all of it.
Nobody should have died from that exchange, no two ways about it. That jerk DA aint God or the Judge and dropped the ball.
I AM not saying this is what I want or how I feel it should go down, but I could see a jury letting him off because of how some of this went down. Would I want to see that, hell no...but I can see the "self defense" aspect and how it has tied into other court decisions in the last couple of years.
Just look at some of the other cases that have come from C&C permits. People who have shot someone in self defense have gone to trial for excessive force and some have gotten nailed for doing stuff that was beyond defending themself...some of those outcomes scare me ALOT. A guy shoots a robber and then has violated that robbers civil rights or owes damages for excesive force? Makes you wonder how this world works now don't it.
Street scum did go beyond and needs to be in court.
I hate him, I want him punished, but I can see where some of this could go wrong and as more and more comes out the more it troubles me.
I just wish in never happend, Tulsa needs a DA that does his job, and this needs to have a trial.
CURIOUS RASH
07-30-2004, 11:50 AM
<font color="green">Kick ASS!!!
</font>
hankcash
07-30-2004, 11:59 AM
I guess that I am a little too emotional, but you guys have to understand that Shawn and Josh did not say "hey, let's go fuck with some homeless guys"....
They were out running the crack dealers off the block and away from thier business when the came upon Badgewell.. now keep in mind, this was not the first time they had seen Badgewell.. he had been a nuscance to the bar for weeks....
He made a huge dent in the trunk of Sextons '54 just a week prior from throwing a rock at the bar!
Badgewell was high on something, I can assure you.
he was seen huffing from a bottle of some sorts that day....
What I am trying to say is, I do not feel that Shawn was threating Badgewells life at that moment, but Badgewell felt that Shawn should die....
Badgewell knew that he was killing Shawn when this took place... I assure you!!!!
HC
LoungeLife
07-30-2004, 12:03 PM
See - it's the not going to jury that pisses us off so bad. That's all we want, a fair trial. Let me repeat that - a FAIR trial. Run by an impartial judge, prosecuted with skill and professional demeanor. Sat on by 12 honest men. This is not an issue that can be determined by one man who is concerned about his statistics, who has a history of being weak on crime, borderlining on corruption. Let me tell you about this limp bastard. Read the folloowing article and realize the following:
1. Tim Harris got his law degree from ORU.
2. Tim Harris' biggest supporters are ORU alumni
3. When the child molester was caught he confessed the ORU officials had caught him molesting children and had done nothing, in fact they tried to conceal the entire thing.
4. Harboring a child molester is a crime, a very serious offense. with the molesters confession in hand Tim Harris took no action against ORU officials who had concealled this monster.
http://www.bubbaworld.com/pedo-preacher.html
This is the person we are up against.
Lounge
LoungeLife
07-30-2004, 12:10 PM
and here's what the tulsa pd think of him
http://www.ardmoreite.com/stories/072103/new_tulsa.shtml
SamIAm
07-30-2004, 12:44 PM
In addition to what Lounge and others have said, I want to add that while there are facts that look "bad" for this case, the facts that relate to the death of shawn are clear and undisputed (as far as i know). the LAW does not allow a person to beat someone after they are no longer a threat. there have been cases where an abused spouse shoots their abuser and it's been considered self-defense. however, there have been some cases where an abused spouse empties 5 or so rounds in their abuser after they were shot once and down and they have prosecuted them for murder or manslaughter. the person was no longer a threat to them and depending on which shots ended the person's life, etc. etc.
Hot Rod To Hell
07-30-2004, 12:51 PM
But as has already been said, shouldn't a JURY decide if it was/was not self defense??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
CURIOUS RASH
07-30-2004, 02:39 PM
[ QUOTE ]
But as has already been said, shouldn't a JURY decide if it was/was not self defense??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green"> AMEN!!!
THAT is the main point here. </font>
Unkl Ian
07-30-2004, 02:47 PM
How many Police in Tulsa ?
Shouldn't be too hard to get them to sign a petition.
CURIOUS RASH
07-30-2004, 02:49 PM
[ QUOTE ]
How many Police in Tulsa ?
Shouldn't be too hard to get them to sign a petition.
[/ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Dave Been was promoted to Chief of Police on November 12, 2002.
The Tulsa Police Department consists of 792 sworn officers and 139 non-sworn personnel and is organized into three Bureaus. Each bureau is commanded by a Deputy Chief.
[/ QUOTE ]
Tulsa Police Department (http://www.tulsapolice.org/about.html)
Unkl Ian
07-30-2004, 02:56 PM
For those who might not know,ORU is Oral Roberts University.
Now why the Hell does a TV Evangelist have his own University? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Sounds like Bubbasworld.com could be helpfull,
lots of background information on Tim Harris and his incredible record.
LoungeLife
07-30-2004, 02:58 PM
[ QUOTE ]
How many Police in Tulsa ?
Shouldn't be too hard to get them to sign a petition.
[/ QUOTE ]
Hey - don't cops have union meetings?
Unkl Ian
07-30-2004, 03:04 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Hey - don't cops have union meetings?
[/ QUOTE ]
They would have Union Officials and representitives,
who might consider this to be in the best interests of their members.
It's only a matter of time before a Cop gets killed,and Tim Harris sets the killer free.
CURIOUS RASH
07-30-2004, 03:47 PM
<font color="green"> The place to contact the Police would be at the F.O.P. (Fraternal Order of Police).
It is essentially their clubhouse, kinda like an Elks Lodge or something.
The FOP is mentioned in that report, if thi si the long version.
There is a REAL long version out there.
RASHY </font>
Deyomatic
07-30-2004, 03:49 PM
Oh my god, wouldn't it be beautiful to see 700 Tulsa police officers picketing the Town hall with signs saying how dangerous Tim Harris makes the community by setting murderers and child molesters free? Tv stations...would be there and this guy would be out of a job for sure.
CURIOUS RASH
07-30-2004, 03:53 PM
<font color="green">Why stop there?
When we get some bumper stickers made up we could get all the cops to put them on their cars!!!
That outta make Harris fill a diaper.
RASHY </font>
redmeat
07-30-2004, 04:48 PM
<font color="red"> I usually stay out of non local things but had to respond......I am appauled at the treatmanet of this case...today I sat down and typed out Emails to a few people......if any of you know me I am a man of words (too many and too long winded many will say)....I hope that all of us calling and writing can do some good.....I have some people with political ties here in the state and emailed them the story in hopes that they would talk with Rep. Largent....I also wrote him...
I AM KNOWBODY AS MOST OF YOU ARE .....BUT A BUNCH OF NOBODIES CAN MAKE SOMEBODY LISTEN IF WE ALL SPEAK UNITED....
Keep up the work boys we shall prevail in this fight for Sean
R E D M E A T </font>
Byron Crump
07-30-2004, 04:53 PM
I sent emails weeks ago to the various WBAP guys in the DFW area (radio) and to Fox and the Factor...it saddens me that I have not gotten a single response.
I know some of you hate the Factor and have all kinds of different political viewpoints...but man if the Factor got onto this you would see some scared politicians in Oklahoma.
LoungeLife
07-30-2004, 05:08 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I sent emails weeks ago to the various WBAP guys in the DFW area (radio) and to Fox and the Factor...it saddens me that I have not gotten a single response.
I know some of you hate the Factor and have all kinds of different political viewpoints...but man if the Factor got onto this you would see some scared politicians in Oklahoma.
[/ QUOTE ]
Hey Merc - maybe seeing the actual press release from the beggining of this thread would interest them.
LoungeLife
07-30-2004, 05:23 PM
Great news - we just got an inquiry from "The Oklahoman News 9" out of Oklahoma City.
hankcash
07-30-2004, 05:35 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Great news - we just got an inquiry from "The Oklahoman News 9" out of Oklahoma City.
[/ QUOTE ]
This is great news...
I have heard stories coming out of OKC about thier concern for thier "neighbors to the north" and how Harris is a fuck up in many OKC folks' eyes.....
HC
weekender
07-30-2004, 06:18 PM
Been watching this for a long time. So sorry for the family of Shawn.
There was a BULLY in North Missouri several years ago that screwed with the people around his town until he finally got shot at high noon in front of a couple of hundred people. To this day, NO-ONE has come forward as a witness. Maybe this should happen to to Mr. Harris?
They made a movie about it-"In broad day light", I believe?
Thats my kind of justice.
So WE don't have to feed and take care of him while HE LIVES.
Thanks, Tommy McCray
hankcash
07-30-2004, 06:23 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Been watching this for a long time. So sorry for the family of Shawn.
There was a BULLY in North Missouri several years ago that screwed with the people around his town until he finally got shot at high noon in front of a couple of hundred people. To this day, NO-ONE has come forward as a witness. Maybe this should happen to to Mr. Harris?
They made a movie about it-"In broad day light", I believe?
Thats my kind of justice.
So WE don't have to feed and take care of him while HE LIVES.
Thanks, Tommy McCray
[/ QUOTE ]
Terry badgewell was the killer....
Tim harris is the dipshit D/A that let him go free....
Just wanted to clarify for you....
Shooting Harris might get someone in a wee bit of trouble http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
HC
chancellor
07-30-2004, 08:20 PM
The Oklahoman called our attorney, and the reporter said he had talked to Harris's office today to get background on the Badgewell case, and Harris' office explained why they weren't pressing charges:
Basically, HIS OFFICE EXPLAINED THAT SHAWN AND JOSH HAD CHASED BADGEWELL A BLOCK AND A HALF, and that "a man is entitled to defend himself."
Those ignorant ASSHATS! Apparently, the DA's office hasn't even read the witness statement from Josh or the investigation done by Richard's law firm?!?!? It's perfectly clear that Josh and Shawn were chasing two CRACK DEALERS from the property before they had the misfortune of crossing Badgewell's path. They never chased Badgewell ANYWHERE.
Our attorney was like, "Whoa whoa whoa! The DA's office had Josh's statement and the detective's investigation results for FIVE WEEKS, and they still can't figure out what happened?"
Does Harris NOT KNOW that there are TWO MORE WITNESSES (Shayna and me) that can vouch for those guys being run off from the bar, and that Badgewell wasn't chased ANYWHERE?!?? Did he even read the investigation provided by our attorney?!?!?!?!?!??
I'M SO PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW!
Our attorney has said that, at this point, he doesn't give a shit what we do. T-shirts? Done. Showing up Monday at the D.A.'s office with a gang of people wearing the shirts? Done. Advertising? Done. Billboards? Done. Print ads? Done. Whatever we need to do at this point -- LET'S GET IT DONE.
PM or call me, folks that are familiar with me. We've gotta get moving.
NOW.
-- Chancellor.
hankcash
07-30-2004, 08:33 PM
It happened across the street!!!!
It was not a block and a half away!
holy fuck!
Does anyone still have that list of e-mail address' of all the people in the D/A's office?
I don't know what I did with it....
My original e-mails that I sent were very tame in comparrison to what Harris is about to recieve....
thanks-
a very fucking pissed off HANKCASH!
chancellor
07-30-2004, 08:37 PM
ALL --
Would this be a place to rally some support for Shawn?
Boyd Coddington's gonna be in Tulsa on Monday. What does anybody think?
Maybe we can get him to support Shawn or take on his cause and speak out for fellow hotrodders Shawn Howard and Josh Martin?
I've got to work late on Monday. Anybody willing to step in and help out on this one?
-- Chancellor.
===============
Hot rod honcho
Boyd Coddington of ‘American Hot Rods’ drives into Tulsa on Route 66
BY RITA SHERROW
World Television Editor
Boyd Coddington is into American heavy metal.
No, not Metallica, Led Zepplin or Iron Maiden.
We’re talking ‘42 Buicks and ‘29 Model T’s.
Coddington, the godfather of “American Hot Rods,” and his crew at the Las Habra, Calif.based Boyd Coddington Companies takes rusty, mangled machines and lovingly transforms them into super sleek and sexy hot rods that cost from $30,000 to $500,000 when completed.
That’s the basis of his series “American Hot Rods,” airing at 9 p.m. Fridays on cable channel 30.
Area fans can get a chance to look at some of Coddington’s handiwork when he wheels into Tulsa Monday — and he’s bringing some of his ‘rods.
Coddington is hitting the road for a cruise down old Route 66 on his way to the Street Rod Nationals next week in Louisville, Ky.
He and assistant Michael Curtis will be arriving in Tulsa at approximately 7 p.m. Monday at the Sleep Inn & Suites, 8021 E. 33rd St.
Coddington will be driving a 1926 Ford Model T coupe, and Curtis will be at the wheel of a 1929 Ford pickup — both built by Coddington’s company.
“It’s kind of a nostalgia deal,” said Coddington in a recent phone interview. “We said we have to go to Louisville, so let’s take a historic route. Hopefully some of the local hot rodders will come over and see us.”
Tuesday morning, they will take off for St. Louis and on to Louisville where 12,000 cars and more than 100,000 people are expected to attend the national event.
chancellor
07-30-2004, 08:56 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone still have that list of e-mail address' of all the people in the D/A's office?
I don't know what I did with it....
HANKCASH!
[/ QUOTE ]
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<font color="red"> ALL -- Ask and ye shall receive! I don't have all the email addresses, but here's what I've culled from previous HAMB posts, and from another Shawn action board. Hope it's not too overwhelming: </font>
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Tulsa D.A.'s office FAX# 918-596-4830
Tulsa D.A.'s office direct phone numbers (no need/time to list names, they change anyway). First 5 (left to right) are homicide division.
918-596-4899 918-596-4856
918-596-4878 918-596-4826
918-596-4845 918-596-4888
918-596-4860 918-596-4873
918-596-4896 918-596-4848
918-596-4839 918-596-4050
918-596-4827 918-596-4826
918-596-4890 918-596-4851
918-596-8795 918-596-4849
918-596-4977 918-596-4847
918-596-4853 918-596-4862
918-596-4847 918-596-8796
918-596-4858 918-596-4855
918-596-4880 918-596-4975
918-596-4875 918-596-4805 (main line)
Homicide Division email addresses
Skunzweiler@tulsacounty.org
Wmusseman@tulsacounty.org
Tchesbro@tulsacounty.org
Ejohnston@tulsacounty.org
Ddrummond@tulsacounty.org
Reach out and touch someone.
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The Bar Legal Ethics Comittee:
Allen K. Harris, Chairperson
P. O. Box 58240
Oklahoma City, OK 73157-8240
PH: 405-728-1155 / Fax: 405-720-25555
allen.harris@sbcglobal.net
R. Steven Dobbs, Co-Vice Chairperson
100 N. Broadway, Ste. 1900
Oklahoma City, OK 73102-8805
PH: 405-235-7600 / Fax: 405-235-7636
dobbslaw@sbcglobal.net
Sharisse L. O'Carroll, Co-Vice Chairperson
2171 N Vancouver Ave
Tulsa, OK 74127
PH: 918-584-4192 / Fax: N/A
E-mail: sloc@cox.net
YLD Rep.- Patrick J. Ehlers, Jr., Oklahoma City
BOG Liaison - Jon Ed Brown, Idabel
Staff Contact - Wanda Reece
E-mail: wandar@okbar.org
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Okla. ATT GEN DREW EDMONDSON
CONTACT INFO
By U.S. Mail
Office of the Attorney General
2300 N. Lincoln Blvd, Ste 112
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
By Telephone
Oklahoma City Office: 405.521.3921
Tulsa Office: 918.581.2885
Main Office Fax: 405.522.4534
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Senator John Sullivan:
http://sullivan.house.gov/contact.shtml
Washington DC
114 Cannon House
Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202 225-2211
Fax: 202 225-9187
Tulsa
2424 East 21st Street
#510
Tulsa, OK 74114
Phone:(918) 749-0014
Fax:(918) 749-0781
Bartlesville
401 South Johnstone #348
Bartlesville, OK 74003
Phone:(918) 336-6500
Fax:(918) 337-4196
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State senator:
Capitol Address District Address
Senator Randy Brogdon
2300 N. Lincoln Blvd., Rm. 527A
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
(405) 521-5566
brogdon@lsb.state.ok.us
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Office of Governor Brad Henry
State Capitol Building
2300 N. Lincoln Blvd., Room 212
Oklahoma City, OK 73105
Telephone: (405) 521-2342
Fax: (405) 521-3353
and his Tulsa Office
440 S. Houston, Ste. 304
Tulsa, OK 74127
Telephone: (918) 581-2801
Fax: (918) 581-2835
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US Senator for Oklahoma James M. Inhofe
Washington, DC
453 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510-3603
Phone: 202-224-4721
Fax: 202-228-0380
Tulsa
1924 S. Utica St.
Suite 530
Tulsa, OK 74104-6511
Phone: 918-748-5111
Fax: 918-748-5119
Oklahoma City
1900 NW Expressway
Suite 1210
Oklahoma City, OK 73118
Phone: 405-608-4381
Fax: 405-608-4120
McAlester
215 E. Choctaw
Suite 106 McAlester, OK 74501
Phone: 918-426-0933
Fax: 918-426-0935
Enid
302 N. Independence
Suite 104
Enid, OK 73701
Phone: 580-234-5105
Fax: 580-234-5094
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Lieutenant Governor Mary Fallin
Oklahoma State Capitol
2300 N. Lincoln Boulevard, Room 211
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73105
(405) 521-2161 Telephone
(405) 525-2702 Fax
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ADVERTISING INFO
Bus Bench Ads 2208 E 5th Pl. Tulsa, OK. (918) 592-2608
They run from $25-60 a month / per bench depending on location....
They need ready artwork in vector form on a disc or camera ready art....They charge a one time $25 art fee to produce all of the signs.
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To get involved to help make Tulsa safer and to voice your opinion in the Shawn Howard and Josh Martin beating cases and the prosecution of Terry Badgewell, please contact: District Attorney Tim Harris (596-4864, tharris@tulsacounty.org),
his boss State Attorney General Drew Edmondson (581-2885 or 405-521-3921, fax 405-522-4534),
Tulsa Mayor Bill LaFortune's Mayor's Action Center (596-2100, MAC@cityoftulsa.org),
the Citizen's Crime Commission (585-5209, pegmantin@tulsacrimecom.org),
or City Commissioners Wilbert Collins Sr. (596-5020, wcollins@tulsacounty.org), Randi Miller (596-5015, rmiller@tulsacounty.org) and Robert Dick (596-5010, rdick@tulsacounty.org).
Letters to the editor at the Tulsa World can be emailed to the Tulsa World at letters@tulsaworld.com.
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NEWSPAPER & LOCAL TV LINKS
http://www.tulsaworld.com/
http://www.urbantulsa.com/
http://www.thetulsan.com/
http://www.ktul.com/
http://www.kotv.com/
http://www.fox23.com/
http://www.kjrh.com/
http://www.oeta.onenet.net/
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<font color="red"> IT'S TIME FOR ACTION!! </font>
weekender
07-30-2004, 11:04 PM
Hank, thanks for keeping me straight.
Stupidity and senility have apparently taken over.
I get so worked up over this tragedy that I sometimes get confused. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
I recently went through a trial, and have NO respect for our court system at all!
Thanks, McCray
ESnacky6
07-30-2004, 11:09 PM
Wow. I finally just read thru all of these posts....
I had read thru alot of the earlier posts a while back,
but hadn't really kept up to date on everything...
I am saddened, angered, and utterly amazed this isn't
'taken care of' yet by the 'officials'....
I am also shocked and amazed at some people's total ignorance....
I did not know the man personally, so who am I..? BUT,
I truly believe a few benches with just a web address or the like,
would grab people's attention quite well..!!
also print a buttload of vinyl stickers with the same info,
along with a bunch of stickers that said something in a simple
BOLD PRINT font (black on white, then white on black) such as:
NEVER FORGET
SHAWN HOWARD
would also get people's attention, and get people curious
as well, IF they hadn't already heard about this tragedy.....
(a good friend of ours got killed in a car wreck over a year
ago, and there are still stickers ALL over town..!! We have
a sticker on the front door of our shop, and one in my office,
and I constantly get asked, "who was Jake Atkinson..?"
I am always glad (yet sad) to tell the story....
Veritas and Aequitas.... Truth and Justice...
(ala the movie Boondock Saints...where are those dudes..?!!)
Damn... I'm seriously pissed off and crapped out now..!!!
(also, that video is a real tear-jerker...!!)
Best of luck to the family and friends of Shawn Howard..!!!
one more thing, this may have been covered in a previous post,
but is there a way to purchase Deadtown t-shirts to help
raise money for the family's legal costs..??
If not, there should be, I'd buy a couple and wear them proudly..!!!
xoxoxo -Jack Strobel aka Snacks.....
FuelFC
07-31-2004, 02:17 AM
Bout 200 or 300 rods just constantly cruising around ol Tim's office for a day or two might cause a little scene. Hell even 10 or 20 for a longer period, we could rotate days. Even just park out front all day and plug the meters and take up spaces. I am pretty sure the cops wouldn't bother us too much now would they http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif? Hand out flyers in front of the courthouse explaining what happened etc. Then gather a little media coverage of it, go for other outlets and attention...It would have to be orderly and the like obviously.
I am really lost here and have been since this happened. I met Shawn one time. One whole time. He seemed like he had an impact on everybody he met. Kinda like you knew him before you actually met him. Know what I mean? I feel worse about him than some others I probably should have had felt alot more about.
I watched the tribute. That was so hard to finish. It got real blurry about 20 seconds in.
Now riddle me this Mr. Tim Harris
I was charged with 1st degree felonious assault for defending myself after I had a gun stuffed in my face in 1980 at a bar. Who went to jail? Me. Judge finally saw it my way, charges were dropped. But I at least got charged until it got sorted out. Other guy finally got his.
So someone with some common sense and power in Tulsa please set this right.
swazzie
07-31-2004, 03:55 AM
There is something so wrong with what is going on in this GREAT fucking country of ours that there are no words to describe it . I am at the other end of this abyss and am unable to do anything except what is available through the medium of tele-communication , but I will be GOD DAMNED if I don't at LEAST have a fucking say somehow . As for all the fuckers who are reading this and not posting or responding- remember the shot that was heard around the world . . . . . . . you fuckers all wake up here too . . . . . . . swaZZie
flying clutchman
07-31-2004, 04:32 PM
i was going to send this story to Michael Savage, but i wanted to check with the people closest to sean and make sure it was okay. Michael Savage will make damn sure actions are taken. he is bigger than both hannity and o'reily.
diego
CURIOUS RASH
07-31-2004, 06:21 PM
[ QUOTE ]
i was going to send this story to Michael Savage, but i wanted to check with the people closest to sean and make sure it was okay. Michael Savage will make damn sure actions are taken. he is bigger than both hannity and o'reily.
diego
[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">Let it rip man.
It may have already been sent to him but the more the merrier.
RASHY </font>
flying clutchman
07-31-2004, 06:38 PM
dont get me wrong, i love hannity and o'reily, but they are busy trying to get Mr. bush back in office. Savage will take this head on. he has helped many people in the past and i think he will be a big help on this. i will email to him and see what happens.
diego
Flexicoker
07-31-2004, 07:16 PM
I just watched the tribute by his sister
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How does the saying go? Only the good die young? what a shame, this still makes me sad.
Neppy
08-01-2004, 12:20 AM
<font color="green"> There was something on Channel 8 news tonight. I didn't catch it, dad told me. Anyone see it? Did they say anything new?
Now this may be a bit over the top, and may have already been mentioned, but what about Michael Moore. He seems to enjoy pissing people off. And he always has a good case against them. Course, he's movies only now I think. The Awful Truth is off the air, right? I think he'd get something done if we could get him involved.
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Unkl Ian
08-01-2004, 12:44 AM
From MichaelMoore.com
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News:
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Contacting Michael:
If you have something you want to tell Michael directly, contact him at: mike@michaelmoore.com. Michael gets thousands of emails and does his best to personally answer as many of them as possible. Occasionally his email box "overflows" and you may get an error when trying to contact him. Please be patient and try sending your message to Michael again at a later date.
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hankcash
08-01-2004, 01:32 AM
Michael Moore contacted...
thanks-
HC
Byron Crump
08-01-2004, 03:31 AM
I would be shocked if Moore would get involved...he seems like he would take the side of the "homeless" or something.
If he did he would get massive props from me...
I wish anybody that had some pull and a large fan base would pick this up.
Deyomatic
08-01-2004, 03:40 AM
Byron, that was my first thought too, although I do find some of his work interesting. I DO think he'd also take the side of a working man, having his complaints and requests for improved lighting and security in his neighborhood going ignored. He also strikes me as something of a pacificist, so he's likely to side with someone who is trying to protect his business and was beaten in this manner.
I also think he'd be very interested in Tim Harris's track record. This would be another blockbuster for him if he exposed corruption, and helped to get justice for the working man.
swazzie
08-01-2004, 03:59 AM
Michael Moore comes into my restaurant quite often for a vegabond since he has a home 4 miles from here.If I see his ass again I will certainly try to drive this home with him. swaZZie
CURIOUS RASH
08-01-2004, 08:51 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Byron, that was my first thought too, although I do find some of his work interesting. I DO think he'd also take the side of a working man, having his complaints and requests for improved lighting and security in his neighborhood going ignored. He also strikes me as something of a pacificist, so he's likely to side with someone who is trying to protect his business and was beaten in this manner.
I also think he'd be very interested in Tim Harris's track record. This would be another blockbuster for him if he exposed corruption, and helped to get justice for the working man.
[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green"> All you have to do is tell MM that Harris is a Republican who is more interested in numbers than doing his job.
That will light the fuse!
RASHY </font>
Slick50
08-01-2004, 10:24 AM
What about "60 Minutes" or "48 Hours" or any of the other tabloid type "news" shows?
Byron Crump
08-01-2004, 12:07 PM
Once again the local media here is all buzzing with another animal issue (this latest scuzz bucket taped up a dogs face so it could not bark while he slept and it died). Now, I want to see scum who are mean to animals go down but this it the 5th animal thing that has been all over the news since all of this happend...where is the passion for the humans?
If this was a kid or a dog we would already have people all over this...I sent emails out again but given my track record I doubt I will hear anything.
Ain't any of these radio guys or tv guys car guys?*
*Probably not...that could be why I don't like very many of them.
Unkl Ian
08-01-2004, 03:47 PM
US Department of Justice,Victims of Crime page: http://www.usdoj.gov/crimevictims.htm
US House of Representitives.Write your Congress member here: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Oklahoma Senetor James Inhofe: http://inhofe.senate.gov/
Oklahoma Senetor Don Nickles http://nickles.senate.gov/
OldCarPilot
08-01-2004, 05:38 PM
Well here in DFW we have a talk FM staion 105.3 where a lot of people listen to "Pugs and Kelly" and "The Russ Martin Show". I sent this to each of them. Hope maybe they will find a way to share this with the audiences.
LoungeLife
08-02-2004, 04:10 PM
The family's lawyer is currently in a meeting with the Tulsa District Asshat, 4 eyed fuck-wit Tim Harris. Tulsa channel 6 is going to interveiw the family's lawyer afterwards - it should be on the evening news. I don't know if it waill be on at 5 or 6. But anybody in range - chekc it out.
LoungeLife
08-02-2004, 04:39 PM
We have been notified by the Oklahoma Associated Press that they will be contacting the family's lawyer after the meeting for a statement.
flt-blk
08-02-2004, 06:02 PM
This is good,
Keep Shawn in the spotlight.
Have any of the other avenues been successful yet?
TZ
LoungeLife
08-02-2004, 06:16 PM
We've had some interest from other media agents, and we have the grand jury petition to work on if needed, what happens next depends on the meeting today.
Deyomatic
08-02-2004, 06:37 PM
Even if the meeting goes well today, you Tulsa residents should still petition for his removal- or run against him next term, this asshole has no business being in any position of authority. He has proven that. If he stays in office, who's boyfriend, brother, son, friend, coworker will be next? And they won't necessarily have the resources that the HAMB has obviously shown itelf to have.
Just a suggestion.
chancellor
08-02-2004, 07:52 PM
[ QUOTE ]
<font color="green"> Now this may be a bit over the top, and may have already been mentioned, but what about Michael Moore. He seems to enjoy pissing people off. And he always has a good case against them. Course, he's movies only now I think. The Awful Truth is off the air, right? I think he'd get something done if we could get him involved.
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[/ QUOTE ]
SEND IT TO HIM!!! Since I'm a witness in the case, my name can't be on it.
chancellor
08-02-2004, 10:24 PM
THIS JUST IN ... Will be in Tuesday's TULSA WORLD. It's pretty objective and gets the bulk of the facts out there, for those of you who are interested. Sorry for any whacked-out type, I had to copy it over from a different platform.
-- Chance.
PS -- Atty Richard Hix rocks!
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BY BILL BRAUN
World Staff Writer
A lawyer for the family of a slain Tulsa bar owner said a request for a grand jury investigation will ²move forward³ in an effort to have a homeless man prosecuted in the killing.
Tulsa County District Attorney Tim Harris declined to file any charge in the death of Deadtown Tavern bar owner Shawn Howard, and a conference Monday with two lawyers representing Howard's family and friends did not change that decision.
Harris ruled June 30 that evidence supported Terry Badgewell's ²claim that he acted in self-defense.³
That decision prompted Badgewell's release from jail.
Richard Hix, an attorney for the Howard family, has provided prosecutors with a report of his own analysis of evidence.
At Monday's conference, Harris ²did not tell us in an absolute way that nothing would be filed,³ but that is the impression Hix received, he said.
In evaluating the situation, the course of action available is to pursue a signature drive in an effort to get a Tulsa County grand jury impaneled, Hix said.
²What we want is an indictment. We want Badgewell off the street,³ he said.
If a grand jury is seated, petitioners can request that a lawyer outside of the Tulsa County District Attorney's Office serve as legal adviser to the panel.
Harris said nothing was presented Monday to change his finding of self-defense.
Howard's family and friends have the ²lawful right³ to try to impanel a grand jury, he said.
Harris said critics of his decision ²don't have the benefit of the official police investigation.³
Harris said he will ²keep an open mind³ but will not be pressured into making a decision ²that I don't think is supported by the evidence or the law.³
Howard, 35, died June 25, one day after being hospitalized with severe head wounds.
Police arrested Badgewell, 38, on June 24 on two assault complaints linked to allegations that he beat Howard and bar manager Josh Martin with a pipe.
First Assistant District Attorney Doug Drummond has previously said the report prepared by Hix is ²not objective and incomplete.³
Hix has said he included both negative and positive information in the interest of full disclosure and quelling rumors.
Howard and Martin were carrying brass knuckles during the fight and had started carrying them ²because of the rough neighborhood and the fact that they often carried sizable deposits from the bar³ at 23 N. Cheyenne Ave., Hix reported.
When they left the bar around 4 a.m., they saw two men whom they had previously seen selling drugs in the area and whom they had warned to stay away, so Howard and Martin chased them, Hix's report says.
They were walking in a poorly lit vacant lot at Denver Avenue and Archer Street when they saw Badgewell approaching them, according to Hix's report.
Howard and Badgewell began arguing, and Howard hit Badgewell ²lightly on the left side of his jaw, with the brass knuckles on his hand. Apparently, Shawn was trying to scare and warn Badgewell without hurting him; the police photos taken of Badgewell's face the next day are clear and show no sign of bruising or any other mark,³ Hix wrote.
Badgewell reportedly armed himself with a pipe and struck Howard, who fell to the ground, apparently unconscious. Martin said he was struck several times with the pipe and that he never took out his brass knuckles and never landed a blow against Badgewell, Hix's report says.
Martin said Howard managed to get up while Martin and Badgewell struggled. Badgewell ran toward Howard and struck him and continued to strike him while he was on the ground, motionless, Hix's report says.
A medical examiner ruled the death a homicide caused by ²craniocerebral injuries due to blunt head trauma.³
The medical examiner reported the presence of ²extensive and innumerable skull fractures,³ Hix noted Monday.
Hix and Harris said a DNA analysis of blood at the scene will be conducted.
Hix thinks the testing will show that ²Shawn bled in two different locations,³ which will indicate that he was hit in one spot, tried to flee and was ²run down from behind and hit again.³
Bill Braun 581-8455
bill.braun@tulsaworld.com
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Unkl Ian
08-02-2004, 10:32 PM
The Rashman Rules.
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CURIOUS RASH
08-03-2004, 12:13 AM
<font color="green">I wish I could take credit for that, or even give credit where it is due.
I'm just sharing it with you.
Check this out. (http://www.thetulsan.com/deadtown.html) </font>
Chopped50Ford
08-03-2004, 12:57 AM
Excuse me for being out of line here, but these kind of stories are simply pathetic and those people responsible for these lewd acts should be burned at the stake. Time and time again I get sick and tired of these politicians taking the side of the "victims" when in fact those people are simply breaking the law. For example, the pandering to the Illegals that jump the borders and refuse to follow the law costing us millions of tax dollars. Its illegal, the politicians know it and still they pander to them and give them everything to win thier vote or fill thier pockets.
Im sick of it. Im sick of paying for this kind of "shit treatment" when Im a rightful citizen of the country and a "voter" if that means anything. Being a citizen is like being a black guy in the 50's and have to sit in the back of the bus. Its pure crap.
Something needs to happen to this D.A. - Loss of his job, Loss of all he has worked for (and I mean everything...salary earned stoped...retirment taken away...) national embarrassment, fined, or jailed for his stupid judgement. Every politician needs to pay the same price as us common folk...the special favors need to stop now. You break the law (criminal/politician) your punished.
What ever happened to the day of the 60's...when certain people didnt want certain politicians in office...??? I bet if that started happening, these freakin liberal bullshit politicians would start doing thier damn job. Let the pandering stop NOW!!!!
chancellor
08-03-2004, 01:03 AM
This may seem off-topic a bit, but I really want to thank RYAN (the hamb board admin) for letting us use this forum to educate all the car folks about what's going on with Shawn's case. We'd be pretty stuck without your help!
Thanks.
-- Chancellor
rdarda7
08-03-2004, 11:43 AM
chopped50ford (winning there vote and filling there pockets) Illegals cant vote and they sure dont got money to pay anyone off. the amount of crimes that happen from Illegals isnt as high as you think..most are hard working people. i to think that are borders are being over ran with people from all over the world not just south of the border.. but that shouldnt be brung up here.and if you were trying to prove a point i think it didnt work to diffront things in my opinion ..
30roadster
08-03-2004, 01:41 PM
Rashy...no matter what happens here... i hope you let all us HAMBer's know when it's re-election time....at the very least we can donate to the campaigns of anyone running against Harris and put the shithead out of office!
CURIOUS RASH
08-03-2004, 02:28 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Rashy...no matter what happens here... i hope you let all us HAMBer's know when it's re-election time....at the very least we can donate to the campaigns of anyone running against Harris and put the shithead out of office!
[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">He is up for re-election in 2006 and has already started to collect his campaign funds, he has collected $22,704.54 of which he has already spent $120. leaving him a grand total of $22,585.54.
Anything else you want to know?
His home address, phone number, church, kids and their names?
I'm all over it. </font>
If you know his home address, maybe you should forward it to Mr. Badgewell and tell him he won a new house in the "Oprah Winfrey Be Kind To A Murdering Homeless Guy" contest. See how Harris would like him for a houseguest.
SamIAm
08-04-2004, 10:25 AM
I assume those HAMBers who are in Tulsa are already in contact with lounge, rashy, etc. but if for some reason you're not, we need help with gathering signatures for the petition. And we need lots of help. So write me at samdent01@cox.net if you're interested in pitching in.
SamIAm
08-04-2004, 01:09 PM
Added notes:
You have to be a registered Tulsa County voter to sign the petition.
If you are not registered yet and wish to sign you can find a voter registration form at www.justiceforshawn.userspace.org. (http://www.justiceforshawn.userspace.org.)
you'll need to register quickly though, because it takes about a week from the time you submit your registration form to the election board until you get your voter's reg card. Once you have the card you can sign the petition.
hope this helps,
Sam
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