OT/Rod & Custom magazine

[Upchuck]

I'm thinking of getting a subscription, it got lots of tech articles, good reading and gobs of pictures?

if its crap what magazine do you all recommend? looking for more than a few pictures and advertisements, something thats actually useful

I've got my uncles old collection of rod & custom from the 60's/70's and it don't seem to bad

[Unkl Ian]

To my taste,R&C runs hot and cold
depending on who the editor is,
and how much rope the bean counters will give him this month.

Personally,I don't subscribe to magazines that are widely available on the news stands.
Every month,I buy only what I like.

[Slide]

I'll second Unkl Ian's comments. Lately, I think it's the best it has been since Ganahl (sp?) was at the helm. I have been getting it off the newsstand lately, and considering a sub.

I also need a sub to Rodder's Digest.

I have subscribed to Custom Rodder for a long time, but I think this will be the last year for that. It's really gone downhill as far as my interests go. (Sorry, RF, nothing personal, but if the current content is selling plenty of books, you are doing your job. This is just a matter of preferences.)

[Deyomatic]

Unkl Ian has a point, BUT, for the cost of 3 issues you could have 12 issues delivered to your mailbox (2 weeks before the newsstands to boot).
I got my Rod and Custom subscription a little over a year ago and about 6 months ago they started doing articles on Bon Jovi and it seemed that every issue was thinner than the last and had alot more ads. I know the ads pay their bills, but I lost interest in the magazine because I started counting how many pages DIDN'T have ads on them and it was pretty low. Not to mention the ad pages in the back seemed to be creeping further and further toward the middle of the magazine.
I didn't renew because it seemed to be turning into tacky stuff.

[Spottty]

I just picked up a "Ol' Skool Rodz' mag and its pretty good.

It's a anti billet rod mag though. Hell, a car in it even had rust on it.

[Upchuck]

well the problem is the local magazine racks that I see have things like streetrodder, truck'n and that sort nothing like the old rod & custom I got on hand, thats why I was thinking subscription, I haven't checked out the bookstores so there may be hope yet for previewing some magazines there if they don't come sealed in them old sandwich bags to prevent admiring the contents

[Levis Classic]

Rod & Custom has been great the last 6 months. Lots of useful articles and some good traditional rods as well.

[fishtank]

I've had my subscription for about a year now and have been pleased with the content and tech articles.

[DrJ]

If you are going to buy two issues (or more) of any magazine it would have been cheaper to subscribe.
I just sent in my renewal for 2 years of HOTROD for $18 and they provided a postage paid envelope!
R & C is similar price to subscribe.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

At the risk of outing my new work mates I know that the entire staff of R&C are all HAMBers. The other guys are hardcore lurkers but they TOTALLY know what's going on here and in the world of traditional rods. The whole staff lives and breathes traditional rods & kustoms and it really shows when you get to know them. Riz is just getting some ink with his own personal Roadster Pickup that he built totally by himself and it won't be long before my '28 Tudor is added to the mix. Lots more traditional stuff to come. And as an insider note- if you want to make the "bean counters" happy and show your support the numbers they look at the hardest are the newstand sales numbers. Your support there will strengthen whatever magazine it is that you like.

[zman]

I've been getting it for a while now, it's gotten much better in the last year or two. I think it's worth subscribing.

[DrJ]

[ QUOTE ]
...And as an insider note- if you want to make the "bean counters" happy and show your support the numbers they look at the hardest are the newstand sales numbers. Your support there will strengthen whatever magazine it is that you like.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is that a turn around in "beancounting" philosophy?
Not doubting what you say, at all, but last time I heard about marketing counts it was subs that counted the most?
Of course, every graduating business class of bean counting that comes out of colleges probably has a new beancounting text book to go by... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

The number at the stands is the one that counts and is the number they pick apart when one cover doesn't sell as well as another. So much happens with junk subscriptions and give away prices that the number that matters is the one that pays the retail price. Yes it's great to have a really strong subscription base as well, but that news stand number is the brass ring.

[chromedRAT]

just don't subscribe at a car show or swap meet. i did, the dude lied to me about the price and screwed up my form. i got like 2 back issues after "6-8 weeks" and then nothing at all. called them and they said my subscription ran out! it was only like 4 or 5 months after i subscribed! i called, got it straightened out. i'm pretty happy with it lately, this last issue seemed a little thicker.

[Boones]

hey Jim, How do you like the new job so far.... what month will be your first issue

[55olds88]

I have subscribed to R&C for the bulk of the last 10 years I guess, it seems to be pretty good at the moment (apart from the fact I haven't seen an issue since I renewed my sub, went on line and it looks like they screwed up my address ?? they are fixing and I'm hanging out for the mag specially as they are ment to be doing an Olds engine build !!!!).
But I like the mag and for the cost of a sub (cheap) you are saving $$ big time even if you only like a couple of the issues.

[Chopped50Ford]

As much as I like Rod N Custom, Im a bit dissapointed right now. for some reason I did not get last months issue, and finally got this months. Magazines are tough to deal with since you dont know who to contact and if the issues will ever be addressed.

I only wish they did more "old skewl rods" or "backyard builder rods"...thier low buck tech articles are great too.

R/C is a good magazine, I have had a subscription for many years now.

[yorgatron]

OK,so all those guys log on or lurk here,maybe one of'em could tell me what happened to the RocketOlds buildup? last installment they had looked like they were just throwing money at it,maybe they should've read the Doc Fromhader buildup in Custom Rodder,huh? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Jeem]

JimA, when did you make your big announcement? I must'a missed it.

[Scribe]

Yorgatron,

The Rocket Olds buildup turned into a major nightmare. I was just leaving R&C when that thing went down, and I swore it would be the death of me. Egge really came through with a donor motor and rebuild parts, but the shop doing the machine work totally dropped the ball. Suddenly calls didn't get returned, nobody knew where the heads were, etc. etc. I'm sure you've all experienced this once or twice with your own projects over the years, it just usually doesn't happen to magazine motors. In this case it did. As far as I know the parts are still sitting at the shop, they just let the thing die despite repeated protests. It was one of the more unfortunate events to happen in my time with R&C... the biggest bummer is for Riz, who was supposed to get the engine when it was complete. If I was him I'd kick their door down and demand my pile of parts.

[RATSO]

Okay guys here's my intro and my reply to yorgatron. This is RIZ from R&C and I've been lookin over yer shoulders for years now. Figured it was about time to join in, since I know a good number of ya already.

The Olds fiasco is due to the machine shop droppin' the ball and not wanting to pick it back up. Outa my hands for the time being. If things work out fine, if not, I ain't gonna have a stroke over it.

As far as R&C goes, size, content, etc. We're kept at an ad ratio of 55% that means 55% of the mag is ads, and 45% is editorial -- set in stone (Street Rodder is at 57%). The more ads we have the more pages we can add - simple as that. Content, well that's another story. We fight for traditional/homebuilt content and tech, but it ain't our company. We've just got to continue to bow to our employer and still try to do some of what we want anyway. It's not always easy and it doesn't always work.
Anyway hello to all, and I'm done with the excuses.

[CrazyDaddy]

I have owned and read EVERY R&C issue. By far, the best issues are from '68 to '74. 2nd best are the 'Ganahl years', '88 - '94. All other years are only good for pictures & period references IMO. So, it sounds like you have the best of R&C. For current mags, I recommend Rodder's Digest &/or R&C; they're the best out there now. Others are 'newstand-worthy', which means that 11 of 12 issues aren't worth buying.

[RF]

Couldn't hold back anymore, could ya!

[trey]

welcome riz

i was wondering what the deal was with that engine. i had come to a few conclusions myself, but i was wrong on all of them.

i subscribe to r+c. its been one of my favorites since i can remember. there was an issue a long time ago, well not that long. but it had a black tbird on the front, with a black 32 i think. those cars always stick in my head.

i like the idea of young guns. as far as im concerned, thats one of the major points of the mag. id try to put mine in, but it says you have to show proof of registration, i think.

the only thing i dont like, is when i subscribed, i was getting three calls a day from people trying to sell me magazine stuff. i know thats what it came from, but i also know its not the fault of the guys at r+c, probably something from a higher level.

trey

[Jeem]

RATSO, that sounds so....... EAST COAST! Oh yeah, that's right!

[DrJ]

Jeezzz look, he registered 2 friggin years ago too!

Welcome to the HAMBored RIZ http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I, for one, think you're doing a great job!
I even liked that article on the hairdo band's cars... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Dooley]

Welcome aboard Riz.

Really like what you've done with the mag so far.

[RATSO]

Nope, held out as long as I could.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Welcome Riz- hope outing you didn't force your hand- I know you have a ton of friends here- now they can get to know you better. And Jeem, I didn't make a big announcement- those used to get me in trouble around here. Seems if you announce the sky is blue you will only raise responses from the 42 people that want to debate the fact and tell you that you are an idiot for thinking it's blue. I've decided it's not worth trying to protect every word I speak because no matter what it will be confused and reversed into something I never said. I humbly join the R&C staff and get to work with some really great guys (for your answer Ken- it's been great and my next satop is the Nationals in Louisville).

[RATSO]

Thanks to all for the welcome, I appreciate it.

Now, quit bustin our balls and gimme somethin' to work with. Send me some "real" ideas, stories, and photos. If you and the gang are wrenchin' on something you think would make a legitimate story, snap some pictures, jot down some notes and get 'em to me. If the photo quality is good enough I'll really try and use 'em.

Thanks again.

[RATSO]

Ha, caught ya. Now get off the H.A.M.B. and get to work!

I want those stories turned in ON TIME!

(Gosh, I love bein' da boss.)

[trey]

what kind of stuff? projects?

trey

[mr57]

Welcome Riz. R & C is one of two or three that I try and get every ish. Our convenience store here though changed hands and I can't seem to find the current one. Might have to subscribe....

[RATSO]

Not complete project buildups but some short tech stuff, Z'n a frame, installing door glass in a coupe, fillin' a roof -- thst kinda stuff.

[Killer]

[ QUOTE ]
Now, quit bustin our balls and gimme somethin' to work with.


[/ QUOTE ]

You better not make fun of the body work on your RPU!!!!

[RATSO]

Heck no, it's just the way I like it. Lumpy, bumpy and comfy - just like my favorite easy chair.

[Killer]

Dont let that Jim Aust guy ruin that mag...

He's a pompous ass ya know?!?!!

uhhh wait...

Thats Fortier.

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[bigron]

i'm going to get a subscription to rodder's digest. reminds me of hotrod mechanix.

[53burb]

Ratso. I have a great project for you to check out. My '53 Plymouth Suburban!!! Ya. How many have ya seen around and let alone in a magazine, if any, has there been a spread on? That's what I thought! I have a many great ideas but so little money$$$$. I already had an artist buddy of mine whip up on paper how it is going to look. How do you go about having a so called donor project that you may be interested in doing? Let me know. KNUX.

[53burb]

I stopped all of my subsriptions when the post office kept fuckin them up in the delivery. I just spend the xtra something at the newsstand and I hand pick it in prestine condition. Sounds like I'm buying a fuckin car or something nice, eh?

[rustyford1]

Hey Riz - Been gettin' your mag for a while. Great mag. I was gettin' Street Rodder but they have too much high zoot stuff. That's why I like R & C. They have a good mix of stuff. Alot of owner built and more importantly driven rods. Would like to see an article on z'in a frame. Differant approaches and reasons behind them. Again great mag.

[Spike!]

I don't subscribe to many magazines. Never have. Its always been "pick and choose" at the news stand. Every now and then I get a Hot Rod sub from a well-wishing family member. Hey, they try.. But now I may actually subscribe to R&C thanks to the crew they have.

Spike

[Ayers Garage]

RIZ, what ever happened to that F1 buildup you did in a magazine awhile back? I never saw the completion of that truck. Do you still have it? Any pics?

Folks on here a real soft on F1 trucks, pics always welcomed.

Sorry for the Hijack- I loved the newest issue of R&C. I just got it last night. Good stuff on shoebox Chevys and your RPU buildup. R&C is definitely on the upswing lately.

[Brootal]

[ QUOTE ]
Riz is just getting some ink with his own personal Roadster Pickup that he built totally by himself and it won't be long before my '28 Tudor is added to the mix.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow! Hardcore. Getting a tattoo of his car as well as yours!

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Welcome Riz. Love the mag too. Problem is the damn thing takes so long to get down here to Australia that I've already seen it all on the HAMB!

[zman]

I got a question now that all you magazine guys are here. I've been thinking of doing a few stories to submit. I want to do pics for them, prefer to stay digital if I can. Any recommendations on cameras or at least how many megapixle I need to have for magazine quality....

[choprods]

Welcome Ratso...Is that to say JimA is now working for R&C??????
He'll probaly be pretty good at that[seriously].
I myself cannot comment of R&C's state of Health as I have really not been reading any magazines for a few years.
I think that if magazines hear what their readers are asking for ,then the folks in charge of the pursestrings,should realize that the ads are really not as important as the end result- the PURCHASERS of the magazine.

Yes its an admirable goal to sit in the directors boardroom and tell your comrades that the magazine has 57 percent or whatever ad pages [and less than half pages containing fodder [that the reader desires]... That is a situation that can only slowly erode the numbers of dedicated readers/buyers.....

I think there are many who probably feel that same way.
A, 1/3 ads to 2/3 hardcore Rod Material ratio is EXPECTED,before they lay down that hard earned to buy the Mag,
[no wonder they feel like the mistakenly bought a CATALOG!].


ALSO- I think ad price restructuring is in order too as most companies that can afford a full page are luckily- already major players in the industry therefore setting an unachievable price per ad that a start-up or existing small bussiness simply could not justify.

[kentucky]

[ QUOTE ]
Not complete project buildups but some short tech stuff, Z'n a frame, installing door glass in a coupe, fillin' a roof -- thst kinda stuff.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey Ratso, check out SamIyam's A-V8 build posts in the tech o'matic for a kick ass Z job. Quality work.

Upchuck, I just got back on R&C 5 or 6 months ago and it is definitely worth a subscription - I got mine for like 12 bucks. Maybe these guys can hook you up with a HAMB discount http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Grumpy]

Hey Riz, Welcome to da HAMB
We met last year at GG's columbus when you picked my buddies "Lucifer", and shot pics of my other buddies Gold/orange 61 Buick.
Missed ya this year.
anyway, Welcome

[Upchuck]

well I gotta say I got a bit more than I had bargained for with this thread! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

welcome to the daylight HAMB Ratso! so HAMBers get a subscription discount??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[yorgatron]

so all that Rocket stuff is just rusting away at the machine shop? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif i'd be kicking down the door looking for my stuff...

[yorgatron]

BTW welcome to the hamb ratso http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[continentaljohn]

Welcome back and love R&C , great tech articles and overall she kicks-a&#

[manyolcars]

[ QUOTE ]
Okay guys here's my intro and my reply to yorgatron. This is RIZ from R&C and I've been lookin over yer shoulders for years now. Figured it was about time to join in, since I know a good number of ya already.



[/ QUOTE ] Welcome to the HAMB I decided a while back I wasnt gonna continue my subscription. The last issue made me change my mind. You actually had an article on making parts!! I have been saying Its quicker to make a part than it is to order one and wait for it to come in.

[Nappy]

Welcome out of the closet.
So do we get a sneak peek at the finished Budget Beater?

Hate to sound like a kiss-ass, but I just finished the latest issue and was really digging it.
Carry on.
~ Rob

[BELLM]

I subscribe. Good magazine.

[59BuickWagon]

Welcome out of the closet Jim.

See you in Loneyville.

Dennis

[fab32]

I've been subscribing to R&C for years. I just don't understand the flap about content. When you get a subscription when they are on special the cost is less than a buck an issue. that and the fact it's delivered to your door and you don't have to take a chance on the news stand being out of it. If you get an issue that doesn't live up to your standards just give it to some young kid, it might inspire him to get into rods or customs. You can always throw it away, you did piss that last beer down the drain didn't you?

Frank

[RATSO]

Here it is. That is if I can get the image to load.
Nope, ain't gonna work way too many bytes.

Oh well, e-mail me at jim.rizzo@primedia.com and I'll send ya back an image or two.

P.S. Thanks to all for your warm welcome. Too bad I don't have more time to hang out. Too busy at work, and all I have at home is dial-up that's way too slow to bother with. You're all welcome to contact me via e-mail though.
Take it easy, and wish me luck -- me and the beater hit the road for the Nats on Friday morning! See ya in Louisville!

[RF]

"the folks in charge of the pursestrings,should realize that the ads are really not as important as the end result- the PURCHASERS of the magazine."

Guess you don't understand how a corporate publishing company operates, or, for that matter, how one of its publications survives. Readers alone don't make for fat pockets.

[Tony Bones]

Second that.

I like what CK Deluxe and Old School Rods are about and I'll continue to buy their stuff over other pub.'s cuz' that's what I like...but I also like magazines that are well proofed and well put together. Not some hokey piece of monkey brown.

Don't think you can have both? Garage is a good example of a nice combo. of the two. Yeah, it might be a little light on content every now and then...but it's good.



[ QUOTE ]
"the folks in charge of the pursestrings,should realize that the ads are really not as important as the end result- the PURCHASERS of the magazine."

Guess you don't understand how a corporate publishing company operates, or, for that matter, how one of its publications survives. Readers alone don't make for fat pockets.

[/ QUOTE ]

[zonkola]

Riz's Budget Beater pics:

[zonkola]

Rear:

[zonkola]

In the wild with editor and pop star:

[RATSO]

Thanks for the help Zonkola!

[zonkola]

No problem--I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the build!

[OGNC]

Man Riz, that looks really good. But I still miss lookin at your F-1.

[RATSO]

[RATSO]

I can e-mail you an image or two of the F-1 if you want.Drop me a line at work. jim.rizzo@primedia.com

[roadstar]

Magizine material?

[RATSO]

I wanna see more!

[roadstar]

I want to see it in a magizine http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Ask the "New Guy" about it http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[RATSO]

I Will.

[Detonator]

Hey Jim, welcome aboard. I figured you must be lurkin out there somewhere, glad to see you on the inside. I've been a fan of R&C for years, but I think it definetly took a turn for better when you took the helm. Thanks for sharing your rpu photos with us. I'm building one too, so I've been following the article (won't post shameless photos of my car like Rudy tho' http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) You ought to consider flying Yorgatron south to pay a visit to your machinist...

[roadstar]

[ QUOTE ]
(won't post shameless photos of my car like Rudy tho' http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) ...

[/ QUOTE ]

Damn, my first attempt at shameless self promotion and I get busted http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[FoMoCo_MoFo]

I have been getting both R& C and Custom Rodder since my wife got them for me as an X mas gift & I would say that both RF and Riz have been doing a killer job. just enough nicely done "traditional" cars without too many Ol School Rat Rods leaking there way into the pages... I am guessing in the future when you look back on these books they wont seem hokey like a few others on the newstand today. & Riz keep on putting a bike or two in there as well...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Is that Skip's old roadster pickup body? That looks damn good.

[RATSO]

Yep, Pretty much picked up most of the parts from Skip, saved him from draggin' it to Pomona.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

it sure turned out nice. Skippy boy moved away and we have nowhere to hang out now. He was like the glue holding the O.C. crowd together.

his weekly parties always ended up a drunken mess with guys burning out on his front lawn and Harleys driving the neighbors fucking nuts. Note to self: dont buy a house within 1 block of the Shifter clubhouse.

I miss you skippy boy.

[KustomSkylark]

I must also say that your mag keeps me busy for about an hour every month. I just recently decided to come out of the shadows too after like 3 years of not posting. I'm suprised to see that '29 roadster for sale so quick....
http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/1/2/74126412.htm

[unclescooby]

I have a subsciprtion to R/C and let my Custom Rodder lapse so that I could use the money to sponsor Mary Kate Olsen for a dollar a day.
I, in fact, was just parked on the can taking the new issue and putting the ad pages to good use. Brandons' Chevy on the cover is awesome and I'm not even a huge fan of tri-fives cause there are so many but that car is really unique and very cool. I actually even like the ads so I know where to buy stuff and what is new or handy. Besides, you gotta have em. The tech articles are good, the Young Guns (and yesterdays) is very cool, and the budget beater is great despite no doubt getting your balls busted from readers who think you get everything for free cause you work for a mag. As for Bon Jovi, or James Hetfield, or Jimmy Vaughn making the mags, that is cool too. Can't hate a car guy for being famous for something else. Keep up the good work.

[Nick32vic]

Ive been getting Rod and Custom since ive been hardcore into hot rods (6 years! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Im 17 http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) and i love it. One thing i would like to see is the "Young Guns" go back to a full page.

Welcome to the HAMB RATSO, post often let us get to know you better. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Maybe Ill get to meet you in Louisville.

O ya, youd better put Rudys 40 in R&C soon, since i may not ever get to see it in person at least ill get to see it in print!

I guess thats enough brown nosing for now. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Later,
Nick

[Big Dirty]

It's been on the rack almost a week and a half and still haven't recieved my subscription copy....and this isn't the first time! Stuff like that pisses me off, I go to the store and see the issue and want to look at it but have to restrain myself because I know I'll then get mine the next day and will have seen what I wanted so my copy goes straight to the garbage!!!!!

[SamIyam]

Hey Riz, looks like your RPU turned out to be a cool little cruizer.

Wanna race?

Sam.

[Tman]

RPU looks good, the rest of you are fags. I buy all my magazines from the newsstand to help our economy (subs are always twoweeks after the newstand gets em anyway) Quit bitching about the mags or publish yer own!(Unless it has a Playskoolgayassname) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[RATSO]

Hey Sam!
Thanks, I'd love to race. Once I get back from my trip to Luisville (I leave Fri at 6am)a few more things should have broken/fallen off so it'll be a bit lighter - giving me a bit of a weight advantage!
I have to admit though, I don't drive as fast as I used ta . . . Ever since my ride with you I figure I used up a lot of my luck. I'm not sure how many times a person is allowed to see their life flash before their eyes before it's really over. . . But I did have a ball!
Hope to see ya soon.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Rudy, just name the time and place and your car will be in R&C. I would have thought they would have all knocked down your door by now- but then thinking it over again I can't think of any "other guys" who would get it like we do.

[roadstar]

Only the guys from the Rodders Journal have been bugging me but I tod them you would have to write the artical http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Hey I can dream can't I. CAll me...

[hotrodladycrusr]

Hi Jim, good to see you finally outta lurker statis. I'll stop by the booth next week and say hi. If your out and about checking out the rides feel free to stop by the HAMB/RRT encampment along the split rail fence to the east of the exhibit building. We'll have plenty of dogs/burgers and cold beverages.... and cookies of course. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

In fact, for you and JimA a whole bunch of cookies all to yourselves cuz it seems like you two just convinced Roadstar he needs to attend the Nats, something I have failed to do this past month.
I owe you. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Mass Butcher]

Welcome aboard. I have been reading RC off and on now for about 10 years. Some good, some bad. I take it in stride and understand that not all issues can be everything to everyone. I always try to pull some knowledge out, I never know when I'll need it. Anyway, I see that some editors/staff of these mags have their hands tied. Primedia owns 44 auto mags, 9 cycle mags and 32 special interest mags. They are the ones dictating things. My only bitch is along the lines of echoing choprods: [ QUOTE ]
ALSO- I think ad price restructuring is in order too as most companies that can afford a full page are luckily- already major players in the industry therefore setting an unachievable price per ad that a start-up or existing small bussiness simply could not justify.


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I got a media kit from Primedia and I was floored at the prices.As long as the Summit's of the world are spending 150K/month in ads, us little guys dont stand a chance. Ok, I'm done complaining.(this is why these guys just lurk, once they are outed everyone pipes in with critisism)

[RF]

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this is why these guys just lurk, once they are outed everyone pipes in with critisism)

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This is why "who" just lurks? I've been in Mr. Cochran's Neighborhood for quite some time now, longer than most. The ongoing magazine debate BS is gay, whether it's about little crap mags, indies, or the corporates. If none of them were around anymore, there'd be increased bitching about TV shows or other Web sites. If you don't like a magazine, why not put your effort into making sites like this more informative for the traditionalist instead of constantly complaining?

Oh, and here's a tip for the little guy: Not every single piece of editorial you read is advertiser driven. If a little guy has a decent product, contact an editorial person and offer up a tech story. That's advertising like you couldn't imagine. If your product is as good as you think it is, your phone's gonna start ringing. If not, what did you lose?

[Mass Butcher]

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This is why "who" just lurks? I've been in Mr. Cochran's Neighborhood for quite some time now, longer than most. The ongoing magazine debate BS is gay, whether it's about little crap mags, indies, or the corporates. If none of them were around anymore, there'd be increased bitching about TV shows or other Web sites. If you don't like a magazine, why not put your effort into making sites like this more informative for the traditionalist instead of constantly complaining?


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1) Let me re-phrase by adding "some" guys lurk

There, feel better http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nads]

Welcome Riz, I love R&C with you at the helm. It's my favorite mag these days, it has been for a while. I look forward to it with horizontal trousers.

The sub department is fraggin' horrible though. The latest came to my door 2 weeks after it hit the newsstands.

That '56 Chevy in this issue is muy bueno.

Is there anyway you can put scantily clad women in the mag?

Oh yeah, tattoos are for fags.

[SoCalCarCulture]

Hey Riz good to see you posting!

You've been my favorite editor ever since you gave my website a five star review last year!

Seriously I like what you've done with the mag and now with Jim A. on board too it should just get better.

I was talking to Brandon (his '56 Chevy is on the current cover) tuesday at a cruise night and he is really thrilled!

Keep up the good work!

[Hot Rod Ron]

Cool that you you came out of the dark to be part of the HAMB. My question to you as a staffer of this magazine is, You say you want to find good tradtional cars and idea for you to feature but when it comes down to it, you fill some stuff in every once in awhile. I have been a subscriber since 92 or 93 something like that and once in awhile you have a issue that has full of traditional stuff and other months nothing but high dollar stuff. I know the same old story of the dollar rules. One of your employees(Scribe) had come to a fellow HAMBer(Metalshapes) about testing some tires and skid pad rating using his traditonal car. Your staffer requires all this safty stuff to be added and so on while telling him that it was 90% in the bag for using his car. Months go by and nothig is said no phone calls returned and eventually we see the issue with the test and another car is used. Don't you think that is uncool to have someone jump through your hoops to prep his car then no phone call saying anything. Now the new trend is going to be coach built/ hot rods and you are now going to try and find cars that blur that line. Well guess what, that HAMBer that you blew off has that exact car that would run around the car you used in you skid pad tests. My point is don't ask for ideas and even get someone to help you with all the dirty work and then blow them off.

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And Riz should be responsible for EVERY conversation that Scribe had? (he has left the magazine if you haven't heard) Have you run a business where you are responsible for EVERY conversation your co-workers have had? Yes that situation is rude, but I don't think Riz is the proper target for your unhappiness. I remain ultimately resonsible for anything I do and say and so should anybody else.

And what's the part about "coach built hot rods"??? We just had a issue plan meeting for the next six or so magazines and that topic NEVER came up. As far as the staff and publisher goes it strictly traditional for R&C until we all move to another magazine.

[metalshapes]

Thanks Ron,
I dont quite know what to say, but I guess I'd better say something...

My Roadster has been available for testing for some time now, but the reason it has not been picked up might not be due to the writers I talked too ( 2 Writers, 2 Magazines..)
Maybe they have to get a OK from somebody, and that somebody might not like the look of my unpainted little car.

That is cool, I have no idea what it takes to sell a Magazine.

And besides, it is not like I did not go in without a hidden agenda of my own.
The Unibody construction of my Roadster is not something that is common with Hot Rods, but it makes sense to do it that way, so somebody or some ( big?) shop might pick it up before I get to claim this particular version of the idea as my own...
That is the real reason I have been trying to get it published, plus it seemed like a fun thing to do...
As far as the performance goes, it feels strong and handles good.
But I don't know how good, it has not run against a clock yet...

Right now I am concentrating on my work and a couple of neglected projects that I would like to finish ( or at least get running...)
When those are far enough done, I will build a second version of my Roadster ( but with a much more stock looking body ).
If any Magazine wants to look over my shoulder while I am doing that, cool.
If not, I'll put it all on a website...

[Luke Jivetalker]

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it sure turned out nice. Skippy boy moved away and we have nowhere to hang out now. He was like the glue holding the O.C. crowd together.

his weekly parties always ended up a drunken mess with guys burning out on his front lawn and Harleys driving the neighbors fucking nuts. Note to self: dont buy a house within 1 block of the Shifter clubhouse.

I miss you skippy boy.

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Paulito, now when you come to Bako we can drive my new nieghbors crazy, plus I've got a bigger lawn now, more room for burnouts, Rizz, that thing came out pretty sweet man, ya done good son

Skip

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hey, my man. yeah but now the lawn is yours instead of rented... that's less funny. Down right destructive actually. I'm all about hangin with the boys but they can peel out on the street like the rest of the white guys.

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Hey metalshapes, you know I dug your car enough to put it in the Goodguys Gazette over a few thousand high buck rides at the Scottsdale event and I would be thrilled to do something with it in R&C in the future. Yours was an unlucky case, but it's not beyond being made right. Put me in line for that construction story (hopefully I'm first!).

[metalshapes]

Jim, you were the first to put that car in a Magazine.
So if you are interested, you are first on the construction story.
As far as doing something with the Roadster, if it happens, it happens.
As cool as that would be, I compare that to getting a trophy handed to you after a race.
( It is a special moment and a nice pat on the back, but the real gratification was during the Race, or in this case during the build...)
PM me if you want to know a little more about my plans...

[RATSO]

Thanks Skip,
I'm sure it's no where near as nice as it woulda been if you 'n' Rudy built it, but I'm havin a lot of fun with it.

Hope you're enjoyin your new digs.

[RATSO]

RF,
Don't forget to call me & Candy when PP arrives! We want to know that all is well!

See ya in a couple a weeks -- hold down the fort for me, and read some of my flats if you don't mind. Thanks.

[RATSO]

HMMM, cooookies . . .

[fishtank]

Hey Ratso, the gauge choice for your beater is awesome. Never thought that gauge could look so good. It's funny, it doesn't look that good in my 65.

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Thanks Skip,
I'm sure it's no where near as nice as it woulda been if you 'n' Rudy built it, but I'm havin a lot of fun with it.

Hope you're enjoyin your new digs.

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I sent him photos of it and he had to call me and ask "what the fuck?" I said, dude that thing was in your yard not five months ago!
"Oh my god, that's skip's truck!" Needless to say Rizz, you did just fine.

[zonkola]

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Hey Ratso, the gauge choice for your beater is awesome. Never thought that gauge could look so good. It's funny, it doesn't look that good in my 65.

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What is that gauge cluster from? And do you happen to know the outside diameter of it?