Kill 29 Phaeton just finished....You gotta see this car....

[29EHV8]

This is Cam Grants(the guy who started Past Tech Duvall windshield frames and sold it to Speedway)29 Phaeton he just brought out.This car is incredible.The attention to details is 2nd to none.
Its a SBC with the Ardun conversion.He made his own intake so it looks like a flatty type.He also made his own aircleaner.The car is unreal.His craftsmanship is unbelievable.
Now one of my all time favorites for sure......Shiny http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/558000-558999/558952_96_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/558000-558999/558952_97_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/558000-558999/558952_101_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/558000-558999/558952_98_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/558000-558999/558952_99_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/558000-558999/558952_100_full.jpg

[NealinCA]

Wow! Very bitchin' indeed.

BTW, does somebody repop those hubcaps?

Neal

[GreggAz]

I love the car, but whats up with the motor? is it a sbc, and the distributor, and heads are just fake?

[fab32]

It's a stunning car, but I don't understand the need to put a fake motor in it. IMO the options for a powerplant are:
1. A real Ardun
2. A fully dressed flathead
3. A SBC with all of the early period correct speed equipment.
I may be wrong but I suspect there will be a lot of people who think the car is lame just by the engine selection, and that's a shame 'cause it's a beauty.

Frank

[alchemy]

I agree with fab32.

[Kevin Lee]

I like a lot of the details on that car...and I'd especially like to know where to get some of those hubcaps. Too bad that goofy motor will likely cause a shit storm that will overshadow a lot of the cool stuff.

[Thirtycoup]

uh-oh...here we go

[Kilroy]

Ditto for me on what's been said but get a load of the seat placement...

Is the driver like 7'8" or what?

[cleatus]

SBC with distributor in the front?

There are some really nice details on that car tho'

[Petejoe]

I admire the work. Great looking car!
But thats a hell of alot of work to do to make an engine Look like a flatty. Sorry....
Body and chassis (10) Engine (-5)
what the hell is up with the fake distributor setup???

[Kevin Lee]

I think it's a given that the engine is silly. But look at some of the other stuff. The hood ornament is cool. NealinCA and I already mentioned the hubcaps. I like the aircleaner too even though I don't think air cleaners should be a big heavy thing made from cast aluminum. Hoodless in the photo but I see hood latches too? Neat car. Cool windshield.

[Dreamweaver]

Cool lookin car but......

If your gonna spend lotsa money why fake an engine? As has been said, any cool period motor would be better than a fake motor. then again its his money and car.

[k-member]

WOW, check out those indian-head marker lights.

[Kilroy]

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WOW, check out those indian-head marker lights.


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Are those heads from old Pontiac hood ornaments maybe?

[Kojack]

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Cool lookin car but......

If your gonna spend lotsa money why fake an engine? As has been said, any cool period motor would be better than a fake motor. then again its his money and car.

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That's what I don't understand. It's like... nearly 700 dollars of fake stuff on the motor there. That's a lot of money that could have been spend on a real baby Hemi or something, you know? I still like the car, even if I know the motor is fake.

[zman]

I just got to chime in. Car cool. Engine LAME! I could probably like it with a regular old SBC in it. But not with that fake ass BS going on.

[Nads]

Great car, but the engine?????
I don't get it, not one bit.
I'm sorry, I'm just speaking my mind.

[rockfish]

Quote:Its a SBC with the Ardun conversion.He made his own intake so it looks like a flatty type.

I got the impression from reading the original post that he actually mated a set of new Ardun heads to the motor. Maybe the guy is a hell of a machinist.

Great car!! I'm not gonna rag on the guy cause of the motor. Hell...he made a custom intake and air cleaner just to make it look correct. I'd love to have one of those intakes and air cleaners! The rest of the car is perfect. I think those hubcaps were an accessory back then.
Clark

Rockfish..I thaught the same thing at first but the headers don't look quite right. There are front mount distributor conversions for SBC. Can't tell if it's fake or not. sorta looks like there's a distributor in the back.
Clark

[36couper]

If Shiny didn't tell us it was a SBC/Ardun conversion, 99.9% of you guys would have never known it was a "fake"!! The amount of work and talent it would take to make the intake and match the heads to the block more than qualifies this car, and guy, cool.
So what if its a conversion!! Sure, there are plenty of real Arduns around........a dime per dozen I hear.
p.s. got any more pics of the black 3w in the background of the 1st pic?

[Donzie]

Shiny, you just like it 'cause it's the same color as your roadster. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Nice looking tub. This guy does some great work.

[MBL]

Is that a London Fog on the floorboard?
Tim
MBL

[AHotRod]

Awesume piece http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Mild Mitch]

Well here goes...
Cam Grant builds some of the most BITCHIN Traditional cars on the PLANET!

Guess what, awhile back he came up with what is possibly the best looking Deuce highboy ever. Had a Hemi in it too.
Bitchin detail on that car too, just like this one. Guess what else. It was a glass body. SO FUCKING WHAT! Who cares. The car was RIGHT!

You all can't seem to see the forest for the trees. Look at the fucking talant and appreciate what most of you could never accomplish. What an incredible car! I'd bet he probably built this for his own satisfaction, never thinking about what we on the HAMB would like. And, I'm sure it'll drive anywhere!!!

While I don't know him personally, I've always admired what he's been able to do.
I have one of his original DuVall style windshields on my Roadster, there again, incredible detail and craftsmanship!

And just for the record, he sold Past Tech to Lucky Fred. Fred later sold it to Speedy Bill.
Who knows if the quality has suffered in the last transaction?

Anyways, take another look, past your noses! You'll see some real amazing stuff there. Real Hot Rod Art. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[NealinCA]

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Guess what, awhile back he came up with what is possibly the best looking Deuce highboy ever. Had a Hemi in it too.
Bitchin detail on that car too, just like this one. Guess what else. It was a glass body. SO FUCKING WHAT! Who cares. The car was RIGHT!


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http://www.wescottsauto.com/PhotoAlbum/Carjpgs/32CamGrant72.jpg

I was just about to post this picture anyway, but Mitch explained my point better.

I still say that Model A is a bitchin' automobile http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Neal

[Scott B]

I say cool. Vision well executed, not some primered four door Galaxy...

My only gripe-that damned radiator cap. With so many other great details, why do people settle for those goofy caps...

[Mild Mitch]

Yep, it just don't get much better than that, does it?
Thanks Neal, I'm still "Photo Posting Impaired"!

[TV]

I love the detail, but whats going on with the seat back it looks as though it's way far to the back of the car? The photos don't show enough of interior to understand whats going on.--TV http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Tman]

Killer car, did anyone actually SAY that is was a fake conversion? You guys are like a bunch of old hens. I wanna know more about that motor! If it is a canversion it is damn cool. Also, the seat placement is a killer idea. If you have never sat in an A touring you have NO CLUE how cramped they are. We just finished one with the seat divider moved back 4" and could have used 4 more.

[whizzerick]

Looks great. Can't wait to see it painted... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[NealinCA]

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I love the detail, but whats going on with the seat back it looks as though it's way far to the back of the car? The photos don't show enough of interior to understand whats going on.--TV http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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It does look odd, but for us tall guys, it might be about right.

I know I can barely get in, much less drive my bosses Model A roadster with a stock seat.

Jim Ewing's old 29 just has an aluminum seatback pushed as far back as possible. I fit in it real well. It looks to be in about same place as this car.

Neal

[Sixcarb]

No kidding Tman, I don't see where it's fake, I guess nobody knows that people did convert hemi style heads to regular overhead motors, there were a few sbc in the early 60's with hemi heads and Mickey Thompson also made them for pontiac motors. I wonder how many crying baby's out there have olds valve covers on a chevy.


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Injectors

[roadstar]

Hey I have a windshield just like that one

Man what a NICE car!!

[seldom scene]

Are they Ar Dun heads converted to work on the block or are they covers over the sbc heads and valve covers? the latter is "fake" the former couldn't be "realer".

[kustombuilder]

i usually just keep my mouth shut if i don't like something (not ALWAYS but usually) but i'm gonna speak up on this car. it is KILLER! i love it and "fake" or not i think the motor is cool. how many of us have CAST our own intake and if any of us have did it look THAT good??

i saved every picture and i hope to god i get a chance to see this sucka in person so i can crawl all over (and under) it with my camera. super cool. and i love the seat set way back. with the tonue cover on it works for me and makes me think it could be something a CLEVER (and tall) hot rodder might have done back in "the day".


Mike

[Rocket88]

Great car, lots of cool details.
The front mount distributor is legit. They are a few companies out there that made them.
I don't care for the valve covers myself, but you've got to give the guy credit for being able to make that stuff.
I can hardly wait to see the car in person.

[Nads]

The thing about fakery is that the perpetrator eventually has to explain to the casual obverver what they're really looking at. Sure some are going to be impressed but others are gonna say it's bogus.

The truth of the matter is that there isn't a single glass bodied car owner who wouldn't swap for a steel one in a second. And no I'm not talking about Speedsters and Art Deco abortion pieces of junk, those guys LOVE their cars.

I had a guy want to trade me a mint, painted glass deuce 3 window body for my almost junk '34 steel 5 window body. I said, no dice. If I'm a snob for saying that, that's OK by me.

It's obvious that the car above is a thing of real beauty, but I wouldn't want to be in the shoes of the owner when he tells the world there's a SBC under those covers.

Oh and one more point, when the SBC came out, flatheads AND Ardun conversions were relegated to history. Do you suppose anyone back then would have thought about putting Ardun heads on a brand new '55 265" Chevy engine?

Simply put, our hot rodding forefathers never had notions like these pass through their heads, they had a certain purity that is forever gone. I wish I could have been there in those virgin and untested times instead of living in a era when it's all about style over substance.

PS, I'm a shitty car builder, and I'll admit I'm not even worthy of polishing Cam Grant's boots.

[SamIyam]

Wow!

I love it!

Sam.

[slowpoke]

I'll take you experienced guys' word above on the engine...if on the money factor alone.

I love the blister on the cowl steering. I've never really like the way cowl steering looked before I kind of like it with that blister...looks more thought out that way. I alos dig the use of the Indian turn signals and the rivets used throughout.

I can't tell on my crappy laptop but is that somekind of reflective paint on the QC and shackles?

I suppose it could be chrome...lol...looks like lime green paint on my LCD. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[theodore]

"Simply put, our hot rodding forefathers never had notions like these pass through their heads, they had a certain purity that is forever gone. I wish I could have been there in those virgin and untested times instead of living in a era when it's all about style over substance."

Bull, a friend of mine just found an old parts catalogue from the "real days" there is some pretty cheesy bolt on gimmick chit in there, so I think it was 50/50 for style and substance back then to.
The car is friggin cool, and the guy makes his own shit, that's hot rodding.
I bet ten bucks(canadian) most of the guys were just doing it to get laid. Kinda like guys' in camaros. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[fab32]

I'm thinking after reading this whole thread that what I said has been taken wrong.(that's never happened on the HAMB before, gotta be the first time). If you reread what I said you'll find that I had nothing but praise for the car, its one killer ride. but with everything so great going on with it I COULN'T UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO FAKE AN ENGINE. There are several engines that could have been used that would have been equally bitchin without resorting to a coverup. This car is far and above a masterpiece in every other respect and I just thought what a shame it would be for someone to think less of it because of the engine selection. Would I like to have it in my garage? YOU BET YOUR ASS!!!!

Frank

[CTFuzz]

I'm trying to find something wrong with the car............................ http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Dreamweaver]

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Cool lookin car but......

If your gonna spend lotsa money why fake an engine? As has been said, any cool period motor would be better than a fake motor. then again its his money and car.

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Like I said "cool car", maybe I misinterpreted what you typed as did others, is it a real conversion or the covers over sbc heads?

Not that it matters, he likes it , i likes it, figured if it's posted here it's open for comments.

Opinions are like assholes, we all have em, just some shittier than others. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[hatch]

Some girls need "bolt-ons"...a little help...and look better with em..(love em!!)....some just go for "gimme the biggest ya got"...(looks fake and idiotic).......I don't see anything wrong with the car...all the "bolt-ons" work well together...I'd love to have it.


BUT>>>>I HATE DUMMY SPOTS..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Mutt]

"The truth of the matter is that there isn't a single glass bodied car owner who wouldn't swap for a steel one in a second. And no I'm not talking about Speedsters and Art Deco abortion pieces of junk, those guys LOVE their cars."

I wouldn't.

"Oh and one more point, when the SBC came out, flatheads AND Ardun conversions were relegated to history. Do you suppose anyone back then would have thought about putting Ardun heads on a brand new '55 265" Chevy engine?"

Yep!

"Simply put, our hot rodding forefathers never had notions like these pass through their heads, they had a certain purity that is forever gone. I wish I could have been there in those virgin and untested times instead of living in a era when it's all about style over substance."

There was cheesey then, as there is cheesey now. It's all in the eyes of the beholder. But it was a fantastic time to be young.....

Mutt

[hatch]

I would trade everything I own for a glass car...just show up at my house with the Beatnik Bandit and you can clean me out.....It's not what you start with...it's the end result....and the guy that built that car did a great job.

If he ever decides to give it to me, with the stipulation that I never change it, that won't be a problem......and there isn't a guy on this board that wouldn't accept the car under those rules.......I don't think he will give it to me, but I'm living in a fantasy world.....and so are alot of the other people on this board http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[oldandkrusty]

Fercrissake, I just don't understand the point that was originally tried to be made in this post. Everything was so right with this car BUT, why oh why did he put a fake motor in it? Because he wanted to, that's why! And the end result is just melt-your-eyes beautiful. And, there is no reason to explain it to anyone. He built what he wanted to. End of story.

[av8]

Absolutely bitchin.! Cam has major talent and a grest eye for integrating interesting details in his cars. It appears he's done his signature windshield modification on this one -- reducing the butterfly effect at the top of the windshield frame to more closely resemble George DuVall's design. I love it!

[TimBob]

Hopefully I can add some clarity to this out of control post... I work with a friend of Cam, and according to him Cam made patterns for the head covers, intake, and air cleaner and had them cast. So there are Chevy heads under there somewhere, cleverly hidden using a ton of great craftsmanship.

Also, he wanted to clear up the origin of the modern Duvall windshield and asked that I post this:
"
I won't comment on the topic of fake vs. real, engines that is. I do want to clear up the history of the Duvall windshield. The Duvall was originally designed by a guy named Duvall, back in the day. Then in the late 80's a Canadian by the name of Gary Lang decided that he wanted to make his own "Duvall" windshield. Gary is a pattern maker by trade. After consulting with Mr. Duvall himself, Gary made the pattern for the windshield. When people later saw his 36 ford roadster, they all wanted that windshield. That gave Gary the idea to start Past Tech. Gary made these windshields for a few years, before his friend Cam Grant got involved. Then Gary sold Past Tech to Fred in California. Cam continued to manufacture the windshields for Fred. Fred then sold the pattern to Speedway Motors. They then lost the pattern in transit to China. They did nothing about it for a few years. Cam decided that since they weren't making them, that he would start making them again. Cam continues to manufacture most of the Duvall winshields sold. I know personally, that Cam is one hell of a craftsman. I just want to make sure that Gary Lang is recognized for what he started. You can see this car and Gary's latest creation along with many others this weekend, at Deuce Days in Victoria BC.
"

Sorry for the partial hijack Shiny.
Too...much...tension... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Cheers

[TV]

OK, I see now by following the top of the seat to the bottom what you guys that are taller are saying, nuff said cars Bitchen, who cares if has ram horn headers telling you what he did. How many of the rest of us can do as well?--TV http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Boones]

From the side the car has a great look and stance. I think the seat is perfect for a tall guy and would be comfortable on a long drive. As for the engine, I reserve comment until seen in person. From the pics shown its looks like a ton of work to accomplish what he has done. Kudos for the effort.

[Tman]

TV and others.........you dont need to be tall to NEED more legroom in an "A" Touring! Some of you might remember the Maroon Touring we built that I posted pics of.

Look here.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=399221&Forum=A ll_Forums&Words=roadster%20burn&Match=Entire%20Phr ase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=6months&Main=398651& Search=true#Post399221

I have a true 29" inseam and had to sit Indian style to drive the car before we redid the seat back. On that ride, I actually pulled off my sandals to gain extra footroom! We moved the seat back 4" and cut the foam down to about 2" total. Like I said before, you need all the room you can get, they are WAYYY tighter than a roadster!

I still love that car, even if the covers are now proven to be doll up items. How many of you naysayers would strap a pair of Thickstun covers on your flatty heads if you had em? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And Cams 32 made me decide I needed side steer in my T when I saw it in Street Rodder years back.

[Tuff Tin]

I've seen a lot of Cam's work over the years and the man understands Hot Rods. Now he builds one with a personal twist and you all go goo goo ga gaw! Damn! That's what Roddin is all about.....building something different, unlike
all you builders of 50's clone cars. Some lead while others follow. You just are following a few years behind on this one!

[sedan_dad]

By the outrage you'd think he had put Olds valve covers on a SBC.

[Morrisman]

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By the outrage you'd think he had put Olds valve covers on a SBC.

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I'm thinking of making some fake 'glass hemi heads and a 'glass 8.71 Jimmy to go on my 215 Buick motor. Spray 'em all up with chrome paint and wire wool it down so it looks like aluminum.

Think 'the boys' will like it? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[29EHV8]

This car is the chit,and every other car and piece he builds is kill too.
I can't wait to see him and the car this weekend here in my town.
Theres a few other "suprises"on this car that I'm not saying anything about.It might cause a real stir here http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/6/web/558000-558999/558952_102_full.jpg
Heres another pic,a close up of the turn signals.
As for the seat placement,my roadster has prolly the same seat placement.I'm 6'2" tall and I can sit straight legged in my car.Boones,you've been in it as has Spence the monster,lotsa room eh.
Oh yeah.I heard he had trouble with an original 1940s stock replacement,Bonneville Saltflats/Santa Ana Dragstrip approved,Art Chrisman/McGurk built radcap on the way to the show.So he pulled into a service station and replaced it with a 2004 model for now.Hes promised that he'll fix it up as soon as possible. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif....Shiny

[bufordtjustice]

Very cool car, I found this thread kinda late but that car looks "right" regardless of the engine being flatty or not. I would, like everyone else it seems, like to know if those are actually functional heads...doubt they are BUT if they are that is freakin awesome. Thanks for the pics of this excellent auto Shiny.

Greg

[HotRodHon]

Well allow me to retort . . . http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I think it looks cool, fake or not.
And If I had the resources he did, I would probably do something just as out there, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif And get just as much criticism They have been selling 348 valve cover adaptors to fit a SBC for awhile.
The front distributor is not fake. It's a conversion for tight fits.
The Indian heads come off the front fenders of Indian motorcycles. They are available from custom chrome.
All n all the overall package is pretty cool.

Let her rip . . .

[The37Kid]

I don't know if it is fair to compair fake ARDUN heads with fake boobs, but these look misaligned. Could be the camera angle but a real ARDUN is wider overall.

[29EHV8]

Could you imagine what the "critics" would have thought if he ran a 4x2 setup and only had 2 carbs hooked up! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.....Shiny

[Stu]

seeing these pics makes me want to work on my tub again-I love it!!

[Dirty Dug]

The caps are the same as the ones on my roadster. They are a copy of a Carl and Vida Orr cap made back in the forties. They were made by Brizz in Vancouver, Washington. They don't make them anymore and as such I'm sure glad I have a set. That is one great touring. Engine aside, you all gotta LOVE it.

[tommy]

I love it...I have the same turn signal selector switch. The details are amazing. What a beautiful piece!!

One of my earliest hot rod memories cica 57-58 was a bitchin' model A coupe, chopped and channeled with a Fire dome Hemi. At least that's what the valve covers said. They were bolted on a flat head Ford!! poser! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TheRev]

Shiny say hi to Cam for me ,it's been years.
TimBob;much respect for the acknowledgement to Gary Lang,he was wise beyond it all.
i've got pics somewhere of his old rod with the maple leaf back window...........somewhere! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[old beet]

Shiny, thanks for the pix. Met them guys years ago when they started Pastec(sp). Bought some of the first W/S. Hot rodders, nice guys and super builders. Really a cool car, some of these guys would cry if "Ya hung um with a gold rope". I wish I had half there talent. Good job Cam.........OLDBEET

[lakes modified]

just dug: i talked to Brizlawn last summer and the new owner was going to start in again casting the caps.i have yet to see any tho. i have the same ones on my modified only slightly altered by Edmunds. Briz will be at Bonneville in Aug. and i'll check again with him.
as for the touring, it's a killer , fake Ardun or not i love it.

[NealinCA]

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just dug: i talked to Brizlawn last summer and the new owner was going to start in again casting the caps.i have yet to see any tho. i have the same ones on my modified only slightly altered by Edmunds. Briz will be at Bonneville in Aug. and i'll check again with him.


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I would be interested in a set of these caps if they do start making them again. Please keep us posted.

Thanks,

Neal

[TimBob]

Rev,
Wow, that goes way back. Let me know if you ever come across those pics of Gary's car or others from around here. I remember someone posting an early 60's magazine clipping with some of that group's cars in it - incredible stuff.

[fordnutz]

Timbob, I have lots of pics of early Vancouver area rods. I am on the coast rite now driving the wheels off my tub. I will be at the Nostalgia drags next weekend in Mission, my old stompin grounds. As for Cam Grant, I have known him for years and he is an incredible craftsman. He has built more perfect rods than I can ever hope to own. He fabricates his own molds, builds his own parts and does pretty much all his own body, mechanical and paint. To top it all off he is a really nice unassuming guy as well. A true rodfather. He is a trend setter, not follower, and is always building something entirely different. He builds to please himself and does it well. He even built a glass 31 roadster back in the seventies from the molds he made off a buddies car. His glass hemi roadster that someone posted a pic of with the side steering had a steel trunk lid punched with louvers. That car was so period perfect I don't think many people realized it was glass. One of the best builders I know. Nutz.

[JimC]

Wouldn;t run fake "Back in the day"?
Who invented Porta Walls?
C'mon, give me a break.
Fake or rather, imitation has been here since day one.

what is amazing, Cam could have just as easily put in any engine hw wanted to.
He did what he did because he could.
It works for me, I bet a shiney new quarter it gets lots of attention.

[daveydeuce]

What a beautiful ride!!! If you have ever even started to build a Hot Rod of this caliber, you have nothing but appreciation and praise for the amount of work that has went into something as fine as this. I dont know if the "PERFECT" Hot Rod has ever been built, and if it has, not all will agree on what should have been or thats not what it should be. "WHO CARES"!!! Hot Rods are different strokes for different folks"!!! Whatever gets your juices flowing!! I dont know Cam personally, wished I did, But CONGRATS on one fine ride!!! Its a fine example of what we all try to achieve!! Keep up the great work. Davey http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif <font color="red"> </font>

[29EHV8]

I just got home from Deuceday.There was lots of kill rides there.Cams phaeton was looked at and admired by lots of people.Its pretty funny just hangin near his car and hearin everyone make comments about it.
There is so many lil tricks on this car.Every time you go back and look at it you find more kewl lil things.
I myself think it is perfect,well the only way it could be better is if it was in my garage! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif.....Shiny