View Full Version : For you Fellow Gasser Nerds!
Cadillacin Marcus
07-18-2004, 05:11 PM
The grocery getter...
Mr. Happy
07-18-2004, 05:38 PM
My name is MisterHappy. And i am a Nerd.
And i'll gladly stay a nerd if I see more of that style of car. It's different than the quintessential 55 Chevy. And I like different.
Was that one of the ones that was in the latest OSR??
I just flipped through it at the store, but didn't shell out for it.
Anyway, that's why that car looks familiar to me.
Fast Elvis
07-18-2004, 06:19 PM
BITCHIN machine bro...........love those straight axle cars plus the whitewall slicks are a nice touch..........love to have a ride some day!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
AHotRod
07-18-2004, 07:32 PM
It ROCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
HotRod60F100
07-18-2004, 08:06 PM
Holy Sheeeeite thats one BITCHIN Ride man!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
63CadGuy
07-19-2004, 12:24 AM
God I gig straight axel gassers!!! That one was one that was in the latest OSR.
TINGLER
07-19-2004, 01:18 AM
Yeah,
I've been drooling over that for a couple weeks or so now....(since I went an bought that issue).
The Fairlane is currently in the process of getting the "nose bleed" treatment.
Here's a photochop done by 4t64RD...
TINGLER
07-19-2004, 01:43 AM
Here's another pic of that car.
http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hotrodtingler/7253.jpg
TINGLER
07-19-2004, 01:47 AM
And another from the same group.... "dead man's curve"
also from the article in Ol Skool Rodz.
Does anyone know anything more about this group of guys? Any more than was written in OSR?
These pics were unceremoniously stolen from the Radir site.
Check it out, you can see a bunch of pics of their rides on that site.
http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hotrodtingler/b540.jpg
ratster
07-19-2004, 09:04 AM
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And another from the same group.... "dead man's curve"
also from the article in Ol Skool Rodz.
Does anyone know anything more about this group of guys? Any more than was written in OSR?
These pics were unceremoniously stolen from the Radir site.
Check it out, you can see a bunch of pics of their rides on that site.
http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hotrodtingler/b540.jpg
[/ QUOTE ] Vontingler, I can get a hold of them if you want. They hung out with us at the Nats in Knoxville. no gassers that days though. The dude's real cool, he hangs out with the Radir wheel guy.
Artiki
07-19-2004, 09:12 AM
Love the fenderwell headers. Awesome.
Sorry, but they look more like mud bog/monster truck than gasser. Bodies are way too high. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
What is it with the cartoonish look these days? I guess I'm officially an old fart, because these cars look like a caricature, not a serious attempt at a race car, to me.
Mutt
46stude
07-19-2004, 10:17 AM
You must not be that old- that nosebleed stance was real popular in the late '60s & early '70s.
Hot Rod To Hell
07-19-2004, 11:49 AM
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You must not be that old- that nosebleed stance was real popular in the late '60s & early '70s.
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Yeah, but so were radiused rear wheel wells, and these cars sit WAY too high in the back to even have wheelwells, let alone, radiused ones!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
That 55 in OSR was the only one that I liked the stance of.
On a similar note....
I just bought a straight axled 63 Nova today for $100!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
HotRod60F100
07-19-2004, 12:03 PM
Huuuh??cmon no one remembers the Big John Mazmanian,Stone Wood's & Cook,K.S Pitman?they all drove 41 Willys with the nose up high yes the 55 is a hair high but its cool none the less and when can we see pics of yer 63 Nova gasser you just picked up? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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You must not be that old- that nosebleed stance was real popular in the late '60s & early '70s.
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My first car was a '34 Plymouth coupe with a '56 Buick motor that I raced in 1960. I grew up in Ohio. I know what gassers are, and those are not gassers. They would not meet the rules for the class, and frankly they look just plain scarey, as far as running them down the strip. That being said, I don't believe that either of those cars were built to race. The stance goes way beyond weight transfer, and it looks like they have springs/coilovers on the ladder bars????
Nothing wrong with liking these cars, but gasser seems to be the most mis-used word on the HAMB.
Mutt
The Harpoon
07-19-2004, 01:03 PM
4x4 seems more appropriate. Once the cars bit, weight transfer would make the cars appear higher for the reun down the course.
TINGLER
07-19-2004, 01:06 PM
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Nothing wrong with liking these cars, but gasser seems to be the most mis-used word on the HAMB.
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I agree with your take on this.
Thats why I used the term "nose bleed". Instead of "gasser".
The "Dead man's curve" cars are more cartoony than practical. My Fairlane will be more for looks than practical as well. After all, its not the 60's any more. If I was serious about racing the Fairlane, I sure as hell wouldn't jack it sky high and all.
Its for looks. And I dig the hell out of the looks of the Dead Man's Curve cars. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Rusty
07-19-2004, 01:10 PM
Looks like a 78 bronco 4x4 frame with a wagon mounted on top of it. Man wheres the mud. I bet the mudders are in the back. I think it needs a big rebel flag in the bag, and some Arkansas license plates.
TINGLER
07-19-2004, 01:23 PM
Hmmm, I was just looking at a rebel flag plate for the front of my car the other day. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Here's another "Dead Man's Curve" car. A little lower this time.
http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hotrodtingler/91bd.jpg
TINGLER
07-19-2004, 01:27 PM
and here's Rich Conklin's car. I believe he's like the grand poo bah of the Dead Man's Curve gang.
Ratster, you know these cats? cool.... I'll have to get their info off of you.
Rich Conklin's car.
http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hotrodtingler/5995.jpg
Deyomatic
07-19-2004, 01:36 PM
No, you're all wrong, this is a way to think outside the box. It is for versatility purposes, you can take it to the dragstrip on Friday night, and then go home and put your Super Swampers on and take that weekend camping trip in the woods with the Mrs., that you've been talking about. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
TINGLER
07-19-2004, 01:42 PM
You're all just very mean. You're making me cry. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Where's Fat Hack, he would understand. He HAD an el camino mud bogger. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Actually V.T., the rendering of your car by 4t64d is dead on for a F/X or M/P car, 'specially if you radius the wheelwells - unless, of course, you add one of those wooden flat beds you were talking about... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Mutt
ratster
07-19-2004, 03:11 PM
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and here's Rich Conklin's car. I believe he's like the grand poo bah of the Dead Man's Curve gang.
Ratster, you know these cats? cool.... I'll have to get their info off of you.
Here's Rich Conklin A-model coupe from the Nats South
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Fifty5C-Gas
07-19-2004, 03:33 PM
those guys are from northern jersey. Rich, one of the 2 founding members of "dead mans curve", is also the owner of Radir Wheels in montville, nj...they are a great bunch of guys...a couple of them also own gasser vettes, one is a 58, and the other is a 60-61...the cars are cool as hell, they are at Lead East every year, so you can probably see the cars there.
Morrisman
07-19-2004, 05:26 PM
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Here's another pic of that car.
http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hotrodtingler/7253.jpg
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Just what are the coil spring things on the front of the ladder bars? Kinda hard to see details in the pic but there doesn't appear to be much by way of mounting point strength there http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
phat rat
07-19-2004, 06:28 PM
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Sorry, but they look more like mud bog/monster truck than gasser. Bodies are way too high. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
What is it with the cartoonish look these days? I guess I'm officially an old fart, because these cars look like a caricature, not a serious attempt at a race car, to me.
Mutt
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I bet Big John, SWC, KS and Ohio George would hide their heads in shame at the mention of these mud booger style cars being called gassers
The Harpoon
07-19-2004, 06:42 PM
That wagon is clean, but...
63CadGuy
07-19-2004, 06:55 PM
I wouldn't exactly call them gassers, but in the early 70's the 4x4, body in the air look was in style. I'm not a big fan of that look, I like the more traditional gasser look with the rear end of the car at closer to stock and the front end up in the air.
whitewallslick
07-19-2004, 06:59 PM
How is that any worse than the current trend of "traditional hotrods" sitting 1/2" off the ground?! Neither are practical, it's just for looks ... and beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? At least I could drive the nosebleed car ... the ground scraper might as well be a paperweight.
I think the wagon is bitchin. My wagon is more like what would have been on the strip, but I appreciate the street freak nosebleed style cars also. In the late 60's I think it was Rod & Custom that ran a highboy (the term highboy was used to describe the radically lifted street cars) of the month contest. Can't remember if they measured from the ground to the crank centerline or to the headlights. Anyway, I think they are cool! WWS
Roothawg
07-19-2004, 07:30 PM
I agree with Mutt.......Those things look like cartoons Trosley drew back in the 70's. If it's what ya like...so be it. I love gassers. But gassers were usually certain body styles, Willys, 55 Chevys etc. Not 68 LTD wagons.(I am aware that is not a 68 LTD, it was for reference only) That thing must weigh 6000 lbs. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Cadillacin Marcus
07-19-2004, 07:51 PM
Gassers are are one thing and the "Street FreaK" Look was a take off of the Gasser stance... It never was considered to be a practical thing..It was just that.. a Look and a trend....I remember in the 80's my uncle used to show us pics of his 57 Chevy in the late 60's that was a hi rider we used to laugh our asses off..but a part of me dug it big time..I never thought that the look would make a comeback,but I'm glad it did... kinda burnt on the whole slam it look..it gets old after a while...but yeah Mutt is right..a real "Gasser" is one that is set up for drag racing and is legal.
My original comment wasn't directed at the cars, it was directed at the use of the word gasser. A straight axel doesn't make a gasser.
The cars are not my cup of tea, but I can appreciate the craftsmanship that went into them. They are neither better or worse than the "traditional hotrods" that sit on the ground, to me.
It seems to me that there are a lot of young guys on the board that are learning about rodding, and I think it's important to teach them the proper terminology. That the style being discussed is beyond "traditional", as defined on the board, doesn't bother me either. I'm just a guest here. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Mutt
Cadillacin Marcus
07-19-2004, 07:56 PM
Yeah but that hi rider look is now traditional since it was a part of rodding in the late 60's and 70's...Am I wrong here?..I should have used the term Street Freak I know, but no one would have read the post because they wouldnt know what the hell i was talking about.....Maybe Im wrong..
46stude
07-19-2004, 08:00 PM
You are right, Mutt- they are not true "gassers" by a long shot. I didn't think about it from your point of view. But the term has "degenerated" to include the straight axled "street freaks" anyways. Personally, thats what I call them- street freaks. I'm big into the altered wheelbase A/FX style of the mid '60s myself. But gassers & street freaks always get my attention, too. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Ya know Marcus, I really don't know anymore about what is traditional.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I just like what I like, and let everyone else like what they like. Life's too short to worry about what's tradtional.
That being said, had you posted a subject of street freaks, you would have had the usual suspects all over your ass. You DO have a knack.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Mutt
Roothawg
07-19-2004, 08:05 PM
Gassers would have been any full fendered car competing in a "gas" class. For example, A/Gas, B/GAS,C/GAS etc. That would not be a car running nitro or alcohol....those would be in the "fuel" classes.
Altereds were similar to gassers but had fenders removed, wheelbases altered etc. Thus the term "altereds". http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I misuse the term as much as anyone so I am lining up to have my peepee whacked..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
el Scotto
07-19-2004, 08:44 PM
Most of the cars pictured so far in this thread probably have never ever seen a drag strip, and couple do look like 4x4s....
They're supposed to be race cars, with the height thing in the front designed to put more load on the old crap tires they used to have to run on.
Someone told me there is an old NHRA rule about height, to keep the cars from getting too ridiculous and dangerous. Something about a crankshaft centerline or something. I don't remember too much about it.....
My gasser will be all about GO, with tags so I can drive it to the track.
whitewallslick
07-19-2004, 09:11 PM
24" was the max allowable height from ground to crank centerline. WWS
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif "I misuse the term as much as anyone so I am lining up to have my peepee whacked....." http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
I don't care THAT much if the terminology is wrong.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Mutt
Cadillacin Marcus
07-19-2004, 09:48 PM
Amen.....Its a Rod,its American,and it goes fast and looks bitchin......
They we also called "Hi-Jackers"... although I don't think i'd have a sticker on a car that said that in this day and age. Dad has a old Hot Rod magazine from 76ish with a bunch of street freaks, one of them being a 57 chevy. Sweet car, bright red, white underneath, straight axle on the front and no bumper. Damned good looking car, i've had a thing for it since I was a kid... It wasn't a drag car, it was built for style, much like these in this post.
I'd consider that wagon in the same vein as the PPE, only maybe a bit more drivable... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
slammed
07-19-2004, 10:30 PM
Gasser....Street Freak......Hot Rod.....Street Rod....Rat Rod....Show Rod....Custom....Kustom...Street Machine.....Race Car.....High Boy.....Low Rider....Lead Sled....Tradtional.... I know what Marcus meant, these 'sky-piolit's' are the Extreme end of gasser's...their root's are of gasser.... The best thing of all: They are built,driven and are not rotting in some field.
Sam F.
07-19-2004, 10:58 PM
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Hmmm, I was just looking at a rebel flag plate for the front of my car the other day. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Here's another "Dead Man's Curve" car. A little lower this time.
http://img62.photobucket.com/albums/v188/hotrodtingler/91bd.jpg
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DAMN..ive been seroiusly building something close to this in my HEAD for over the past year,,i know where the exact granny OG car is sitting,,hmmmmm
Jake H.
07-19-2004, 11:26 PM
These cars are badass no matter what you want to call them! They are loud, fast, and look scary as hell. That's why DMC are not welcome at NSRA events (they have some pre-48 cars in the club.)
As my old bodyman friend Tommy "Plasticfinger" MacFarland would say, "Now you're just pickin' the fly shit outta the pepper." Gasser, Street Freak, blah,blah. Anyone with a clue can tell these aren't true race cars.
And "highboy" street machines were everywhere when I was a pup. These are a breath of fresh air. But just wait a year.
The Harpoon
07-19-2004, 11:54 PM
who needs a jeep?
Wrote a long message about this car and the young fellow who built, and the board ate it without any warning. No big deal; that happens about once a month on average here, so I no longer take it as a personal slight. Anyway . . .
There are few gassers of old that are as good and exciting as Mike Beugeleisen's Poncho. Mike began building this car when he was in high school in the late '80s. Nosebleed gassers were long out of style at the time, but Mike loved the look of the old rascals and just had to build one for himself.
Mike did his homework and then some working up a great development number on the car over the years, until there is probably no nose-bleed gasser ever that handles as well for a car that runs this hard. Mike's coaxed it deep into the 8s on alcohol, and it runs like it was on a string. The man knows how to build and set up a chassis, for sure.
Today, the Poncho sits in the shop most of the time while Mike concentrates on bike and other car projects. I'm hopeful that he'll buy a drum of juice sometime soon and drag it back out into the sunlight where we can see it run hard and quick.
TINGLER
07-20-2004, 02:01 AM
Av8, what was the title of that thread? I for one would like to go and find it and read it.
That Poncho looks so mean, that it makes me wanna pass out. I'm getting light headed from the pic. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Some of the rides on this page are a bit over the top, but when it comes right down to it....all these machines are about intimidation. They are all mean, obnoxious and INTIMIDATING. They weren't meant to be subtle.
That Poncho is all sorts of MEAN. Hopefully, some day I'll get my '63 to that level...
Grumpy
07-20-2004, 02:03 AM
well, here's the "gasser" I once owned. I called it that because it was a straight axle/leaf spring'd big block car w/o inner fenders that was built originally in the mid 60's. still wore the paint on most of the car.
granted, the front springs were worn out, so it didn't sit real high, but was a cool, fast, loud, and fun ride.
I miss it, and my wife is still salty I let it go http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Grumpy
07-20-2004, 02:04 AM
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Mike's Poncho is a major intimidater and then some. This car is downright scary and not a car you'd like to face when you come to the line.
As bad as it looks, consider what it sounds like to generate enough ponies to propel it into the 8s. It's a nasty howler for sure, guaranteed to make the hair stand up on the back of your neck -- and put a big smile on your face!.
Cadillacin Marcus
07-20-2004, 02:46 AM
I know that Pontiac!!! That car has been around for along time!!! I remember it in Primer in the 80's..It definitely stood out in a crowd!! It was always at Hot August nights... We used to drool over it as teenagers...Man that car looks good now!!
Cadillacin Marcus
07-20-2004, 02:59 AM
Speaking of evolution from Gasser to Street Freaks..Street Freaks slowly became Pro Street in the late 1970's...I remember a certain shoebox Chevy that featured a tubbed and narrowed rear end circa 76 or so...
slammed
07-20-2004, 03:11 AM
There was A Black '55 Chev. L-88 Blown, crome lower-than-most straight axle. From Minn. around '78.
k-member
07-20-2004, 04:36 AM
av8, I meet him at the HRR in 98.WOW what a hot rod! That thing has to be one of my favorites ever, and it did run in the 8's as strait as a pin. Love his lic.# He drove it from the track to the hotel, what a wild man. When he fired it up under the entry way of the hotel, everones eyes BURNED. That bastard is nasty!
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