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Jeff Norwell
07-15-2004, 08:59 PM
So now I got this large garage(45-35)....anybody have any neat shots of garage interiors?....layouts.hanging stuff,space savers,sorting tools and kool homemade Ideas....lets see your garage insides

Jeem
07-15-2004, 09:25 PM
You don't want to see the inside of MY garage.

nekroman
07-15-2004, 09:36 PM
My buddy has a bunch of 2x4's on his ceiling that make a rack that look not unlike the tire racks at your local repair shop, made at different widths they can accomodate wheels or tires. I always thought that was a better alternative than stacks of tires laying on the ground.
It also depends on what you are going to be doing in your garage, welding or what have you. Think of all of the stuff that you want to get in there and make a spot for it. (If you can). http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Roothawg
07-15-2004, 11:07 PM
BTTT, this subject matter is hard to get responses on. Trust me I tried. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Slag Kustom
07-15-2004, 11:18 PM
i ran out of space in my garage and now have a warehouse with a fork lift and racking to store my harleys and motors.

make sure you have a big bench to work on and a place for all the big equipment

Brad54
07-16-2004, 12:13 AM
White pegboard used like wall paper. My ceiling is 12-feet, so I've got 4x8 sheets from the ceiling down all the way around. The bottom 4 feet is going to be bright-finish corrugated steel siding to keep floor jack handles and sparks out of the wall.

The white peg board is more expensive than dry-wall per sheet, but after you put up the drywall, tape it, mud it, sand it and paint it, you're money and time ahead. 1-inch long deck screws to fasten the pegboard. The bright finish really reflects light nicely.

Built a 4x6 closet in the back corner, and insulated (with a vent) to stick my air compressor and cleaning stuff in. Don't have a compressor yet, but I've seen this done, and when the compressor kicks in you can actually continue your conversation. Made it with 2x6 studs, 7 feet tall with 3x4-inch plywood deck so there's a storage loft on top of it. The closet also gives you two more corners on the shop floor to put tools, book cases, etc.

Half of one wall has 24-inch deep shelves going to the ceiling. (Actually, they're 7 feet tall, but future plans are for 24-inch industrial pallet racking). Don't get the 36-inch wide pallet racking--it's too deep, and you end up wasting space (a SBC head is only 19 inches deep or so).
Behind the shelves from floor to ceiling, along my storage loft is 1/4-inch plywood, painted gloss white, so that if I bang something into the wall sticking it in the loft or sliding it on the shelves (like a SBC cylinder head), it won't bust through the wall.

Went to Sam's club and bought heavy duty plastic tote boxes with the clam-shell lids. $125 worth, at $4 each. Spaced the shelves out to stack these boxes on it and not have "dead space" between the lid of a box and the shelf above it. Smartest thing I've ever done.

For half of the shelves, the first shelf is 3 feet off the floor, so I can stand engines on end and store them under it.

One of the shelves is only about 12 inches high until the shelf above it--intake manifold and valve cover storage.
Maximize your shelving to eliminate dead space between parts/boxes and the shelf above it. My shelves are 12-feet long. If I can lower each horizontal shelf segment 3 inches, and I start with 7 shelves per unit, that means I've "found" an extra 21 inches of horizontal space and can add another (8th) shelf. An additional 12-foot long shelf stores a lot of crap.

LOTS of electrical outlets. I have them every 4 feet, two-gang outlet, each half of the box on a different circuit so I can plug my bench grinder in next to my Coke machine and not blow a fuse.

Lots of insulation in the walls. I have to do the ceiling next--the black shingles turn it into an oven during the day.

Enough flourescent lights to make you squint at noon.

Ceiling fans are a good idea, too.

Thanks to Eastwood's powder coating system, I now have to have an oven in the shop--just picked one up. I'm going to build a stand to get the oven up off the floor about a foot or 18 inches--easier to put heavy stuff in it to cook because I won't have to bend over with it, and more importantly it gives me storage under the over for floor jacks or something.

I have water out there, too, so there's a sink, and I'll put in a hot water heater.

The Coke machine holds bottles, and will freeze beer. Gotta have a place to drain the beer after use, but rather than installing a toilet (which ALWAYS gets disgusting in a shop) I bought a full-length stand up urinal. The crowning piece of my shop! Easy to clean up (spray bottle with bleach), no disgusting splatter around the lid, and dirt won't settle on it and then turn to mud when my drunk buddies hit everything but the bowl. You gotta stand far more often than you gotta sit, so for those long breaks I go into the house.

Finally, don't start wrenching on any cars until the shop is done--almost everyone I know with a decent building started wrenching before the shop was finished and 15 years later they're still bitching about insulating, finishing the walls, running wires, more lights, etc.

I've got a ways to go to finish my shop, but it's getting close.

-Brad

Oh, here's two more:
Don't put a table, bench or shelves next to the overhead doors or the entrance door--it becomes a catch-all and starts the clutter snowball. You set stuff on it on your way out the door thinking "I'll throw this away later" and your wife and kid just open up the door and set stuff down.

Build a nice big welding table, and then along the wall behind it, just put a 18-inch deep, several feet long work counter. Don't use a work bench along a wall. Also always becomes a cluttered catch-all. You want to work at the welding table, and store some tools, cordless drill battery chargers, small parts storage, WD40, drill bits, etc. on the work counter behind you.

Lots of garbage cans. You'd be amazed at how much shit you just set down on the bench because you don't want to make the trip across the shop to the garbage can, thinking you'll throw it away in a minute. You never do, and then you've got old paper towels and soda cans everywhere.

I'm done now

slamchop
07-16-2004, 12:17 AM
How about a couple projects http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Digger_Dave
07-16-2004, 12:33 AM
Root, didn't we go through this subject earlier this year? Did it make it into TECH?

My shop has...
Lots of cupboards hanging from the walls (with doors; keeps the crap out) over workbenches that run along one wall and across the front. One just for reference books.

Drawers (deep) under each bench for big tool storage. (angle grinders, drills, etc.)

A HEAVY welding table (1/2" steel plate on steel legs with a BIG vise.

Room in one corner that has hardware bins from floor to ceiling.

Stereo, computer and telephone in another corner.

Now if a small refrigerator comes along; won't have to take my shoes off everytime I head into the house to fetch more beverages. (trouble is I don't know where I can put it!)

manyolcars
07-16-2004, 01:17 AM
A rack to store rims. As you see this one that holds 63 filled up fast. I just finished another that holds 90 rims

manyolcars
07-16-2004, 01:24 AM
The 90 rim rack

slammed
07-16-2004, 01:58 AM
Along the line's of visual. A friend got a ton (free) of old barn wood rich in history and weather'd red patina. Used it through out the shop esp. the clean area. Then the el cheap-o tin storage shed was 'sided' w/ same wood. Open shelves and rack's can be covered with large flag's, art ect.

whodaky
07-16-2004, 02:32 AM
Hey Brush, just took a few images of my tool and storage cupboard area. My garage is 40 x 25 with 10 feet to the bottom of the trusses, a little smaller than yours. It is actually a prefabed unit, which I had the company design the major part to my specs. I assembled it my self. When I had settled on a size and design of the basic garage I then designed what would go in it in the form of permanent fittings. A lot of this design was based on the equipment I had already. Everything was designed prior to building my garage. I am pretty pleased with how it all turned out. As I said I erected and assembled my garage and did all the fit out. It has the walls lined and the floor is painted. As someone else said here, try and finish the whole project before working in it.( aprt from working in it to fit it out that is)!
The only thing I would do different is I would insulate the wallls and of course go bigger!
I work in steel fabrication so a lot of what I did came very easy to me and of course that was a big help and also saved a lot of dollars.
Almost forgot, I also put a couple of tracks on 2 of my trusses and have cross carriages on these, makes pulling engines by one's self very easy, as well as moving heavier stuff across the garage.
I have a series of shots some where that show all walls of my garage as fitted out, before I moves cars etc in, I'll see if I can find them.
Anyhow here is the 3 images I just took.
I hope this helps! Geoff PS sorry about the messy benchs
http://img55.photobucket.com/albums/v167/whodaky/SHED_1.jpg
http://img55.photobucket.com/albums/v167/whodaky/SHED_2.jpg
http://img55.photobucket.com/albums/v167/whodaky/SHED_3.jpg

zman
07-16-2004, 10:30 AM
A loft for storage is cool.

http://img2.exs.cx/img2/145/shop3.jpg

Signs are cool I have "nationwide sin"

http://img2.exs.cx/img2/5804/shop4.jpg

I also have clutter. And these pics are a little old.

AHotRod
07-16-2004, 10:34 AM
Heres my shop, most think it's to clean and white.
But I can see in it http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Cword
07-16-2004, 11:16 AM
I'm working on wallpapering one wall of my shop with beer labels, no two alike.
Last week my neighbor gave me a commercial poster holder. It's a dandy thing to have, the garage was being taken over by bonneville posters, bikes, signs and other stuff on the walls. The poster holder allows me to change posters easily and keeps 'em clean.

mike

bigron
07-16-2004, 11:27 AM
i'm going to paint mine white after i insulate it and finish the inside. two of my buddies have there's painted white. it's nice working in a bright shop. you can see! when i go home i feel like i'm in a cave.

07-16-2004, 11:42 AM
Here's mine. Nothing fancy. It's more about working than anything. I've got really nice cabinets from a bank along one wall and a stainless steel table from a morgue(spell?) as a workbench. The walls have more junk on them now. I'll find something at a swapmeet for $5 or $10 and get it just to hang on the walls. Eventually the stuff on the walls gets used and gets replaced with new stuff.
Clark

Just Gary
07-16-2004, 11:42 AM
When planning storage, THINK VERTICAL! Get all that stuff off the floor and up on hooks/shelves/cupboards on the walls and hanging from the ceiling.

manyolcars
07-16-2004, 12:00 PM
My shop is way too full. There is NO wall space. How and where can I store 8 20' chains with hooks?

Big A
07-16-2004, 12:15 PM
My father installed a couple of Solatube™ skylights and they are pretty cool. Lots of light, but not direct sunlight.

Used restaurant equipment rocks. A long time ago some HAMBer posted a photo of their shop with a stainless workbench with built-in refrigerator.

Jeff, if you're ever back in Hogtown check out Canada Food Equipment (off Keele near the QEW/Gardiner). They have about 10 acres of stainless steel shelving, racking, lockers and tons of cool shit, and it's pretty cheap.

Benaco Sales is up HWY 400 and they have used restaurant equipment too. http://www.benacosales.com/

Mr. Used in Hammertown (on Barton I think) has 50,000 sq. ft. of used equipment from restaurants and shops, businesses etc. Good place for work benches and even tools, and generally a damn cool place just to wander around. He advertises in the TriAd all the time.

Brother Bob
07-16-2004, 12:44 PM
Bigger is always better.Storage racks that go to the ceiling and a overhead crane is always good. All we need is some artwork to complete our shop. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Plowboy
07-16-2004, 01:35 PM
I used 7/16 OSB all around mine (when it was still cheap at 7 bucks a sheet). That way I can put a nail or screw in anywhere and whatever I hang there will stay.

I used steel for the ceiling and have a foot of insulation blown in on top of it, highly recommmended. 6 inches in the walls too. It heats easier than my old farm house.

I painted it all white too, it is much brighter. Make sure you paint and get your walls put up before you start moving shit in though, because you just end up moving it all around then because it always seems to be in the way.

And yes, you can never have enough outlets.

Digger_Dave
07-16-2004, 05:01 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Last week my neighbor gave me a commercial poster holder. It's a dandy thing to have, the garage was being taken over by bonneville posters, bikes, signs and other stuff on the walls. The poster holder allows me to change posters easily and keeps 'em clean.
mike

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Mike THAT'S the solution I need!! I have been doing a major clean up and reorginization of my shop. I put ALL the posters I have (that aren't already on the cabinet doors) in one place and found that I have OVER 150 MORE! I'm even hanging some of my signs in the car port!

The only problem (you've been in my shop) is where the heck do I hang a device like you describe?? Already have posters pinned to the ceiling!

I missed some things in the first description of my shop. Peg board; Yes. Lots of electical outlets; Yes. (spaced within 4 feet of each other) Lots of lights; Yes. EVERY SURFACE painted WHITE (except the bench tops (yellow powder coated) and the floor); Yes.

Big A
07-16-2004, 05:19 PM
A central vac system with several outlets in logical areas. It's great having it beside the drill press.

HOTRODPRIMER
07-16-2004, 05:29 PM
I'm getting a lotta ideas,,,,, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm just not that far along with my shop! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifHRP

stoggie
07-16-2004, 05:33 PM
I think I speak for a lot of us.....you suck! In the nicest way. Actually I am just jealous.
That will be a great garage.

fuel pump
07-16-2004, 05:37 PM
Hey brush,
How about something like this

Landmule
07-16-2004, 07:06 PM
That clean white shop gives me the shivers! I can see a guy in a chemical cleanup suit walking around in there!!

Stevie G
07-16-2004, 09:04 PM
HEY!!
How'd you get pictures of my shop?


In my dreams.

I'll repeat what's been said...Make it bright, go UP with storage, tire racks(Frees up floor space).

Jeff Norwell
07-19-2004, 09:16 AM
Hey guys..all this info is fantastic!!!....I just spent the weekend cleaning and throwing out crap from the former owner.All of the input is very useful and app.
I am gonna keep this one bookmarked.I plan to get started soon and the garage/shop I have has a good start. It has 2 60 thou BTU gas heaters strung to thr ceiling and fully insulated walls and ceiling.It has a solid bench and used cabinets with a loft typeshelving at the rear of the shop that runs the entire length.
Big Al/ I will check out those places around the GTA.Restaurant equip. is very sturdy!.....just what I need......ha ha ..kind of reminds me when I worked as a prep cook and whacked a chicks thumb off while cutting up chicken wings....aahh ...memorys.

tommy
07-19-2004, 09:36 AM
http://fototime.com/{BF58CF7B-CD83-497B-868D-D5ACB2830086}/picture.JPG
http://fototime.com/{AFCFD287-E141-419A-9130-7FF14C4ABD78}/picture.JPG
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I got these for free but make at least one cabinet with glass doors to keep your cool goodies in plain sight to enjoy amd still keep them clean and neat.

Slag Kustom
07-19-2004, 09:42 AM
here are a pic of my warehouse with racking for the harleys

tokyo
07-19-2004, 02:21 PM
HAHAHAAH mine rules..

tok

HOTRODPRIMER
07-19-2004, 03:05 PM
I'm getting closer to making a decision on where to build shelves and cabinets! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifHRP

Django
07-19-2004, 03:12 PM
Damn, it isn't depressing enough to see everyone driving their cars around this summer, but you gotta go and show off your shops that look bigger than my house!

Lots of great ideas, but I'm having a hard time applying them to my 2 car garage. I am going to try to build an attached shed to house my new air compressor. One problem I have is where else to put my two 16' ladders. Right now they are on the wall behind a BFGoodrich banner. I rarely use them but I can't get rid of them either. I want to hang up a '59 Caddy quarterpanel and that is the only spot I can think of to put it.

dixiedog
07-19-2004, 03:38 PM
Hotrod Primer
looking killer - if you know where you want to run your cabinets you can put blocking in between the studs to make sure you got bite with cabinets etc.

The other thing is dont have too many windows in it, I did and I ran out of wall space real quick!

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 03:54 PM
Guess our shop is a bit cramped , .. 3 Cars , 4 lots . The vacant lot is mainly used for maintinace(?) of our daily drivers . Part from showing our shop , the only advice I can give , is this : Hang your parts on the wall . I tend to forget what I have , soo to keep the parts vissible have been a great help ( Me, and OLD F..r )
VEST :

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 04:00 PM
north

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 04:01 PM
vest2

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 04:02 PM
south

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 04:06 PM
south-east

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 04:07 PM
WallHanger-stuff

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 04:15 PM
northeast

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 04:20 PM
Hand Tools kept close to car

klazurfer
07-19-2004, 04:31 PM
keep it worth visitin` http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

36couper
07-19-2004, 04:40 PM
Too lazy to read the whole thread but has someone talked about floors yet? That is, paint it, tile it, etc.
I'd like to paint mine but that 2 part epoxy stuff is toxic and stinks..... and my garage is attached to the house. How about the tiles that snap together? They usually have a booth at shows. Can anyone make a recommendation?

slowpoke
07-19-2004, 04:55 PM
Great timing on the post...just finished my lawn shit shed so I can get my garage back.

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Damn, it isn't depressing enough to see everyone driving their cars around this summer, but you gotta go and show off your shops that look bigger than my house!

Lots of great ideas, but I'm having a hard time applying them to my 2 car garage.

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Your not alone there.


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One problem I have is where else to put my two 16' ladders. Right now they are on the wall behind a BFGoodrich banner. I rarely use them but I can't get rid of them either.

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If you have a wood-fenced backyard you can buy a couple of ladder hangers at the local wallyworld for $2 and hang them on the fence. Or if your willing too maybe even the side of the house.

Morrisman
07-19-2004, 05:48 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Damn, it isn't depressing enough to see everyone driving their cars around this summer, but you gotta go and show off your shops that look bigger than my house!

Lots of great ideas, but I'm having a hard time applying them to my 2 car garage. I am going to try to build an attached shed to house my new air compressor. One problem I have is where else to put my two 16' ladders. Right now they are on the wall behind a BFGoodrich banner. I rarely use them but I can't get rid of them either. I want to hang up a '59 Caddy quarterpanel and that is the only spot I can think of to put it.

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I hear you man. I'm too embarrassed to show a pic of my single car asbestos built 8' x 16' garage, lined with spider webs and grease. I did splash some white paint around it and brightened it up, but I just don't have the space or money to build a 'real' garage.

Still, it's where I spend a lot of time, I have fun there, do my thing in there, so I'm still one up on the guys who don't even have a garage to work in http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Boones
07-19-2004, 05:58 PM
here is a pic of my corner of my 3 car garage. One wall is storage..(part in the open and part closed up) To the left of the white cabinets is an 8' long 12' high rack. I have the tranny, tires and compressor under the bottom shelf (its a shitty compressor, not a cool standup one). the second shelf is chest high for bulky heavy stuff and the top (right at the garage door track) is for stuff I do not use much (old ice chests, car parts, pedal cars and other misc junk.. I did another above the garage door for light stuff like window garnish molding and exterior stainless trim.

To the right is a 4x4x8 cabinet to hold the welder, floor jack, ramps and other shop tools (grinders, saws etc)

Boones
07-19-2004, 06:04 PM
heres the weld cabinet before the white paint to brighten things up.. great place to put posters on outside..

Big A
07-19-2004, 07:42 PM
This thread is depressing... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif If someone posts a shot of Modernbeat's old warehouse I'm going to slash my wrists.

http://www.threeringcircus.ca/BigA/4BigAGarage.jpg

Hanging 16' ladder on an exterior wall is a good way to get your house broken into. 2nd storey windows often are not as secure (or even closed or locked in warm weather) as main floor, and B&E guys know it. Not a criticism, just a thought.

shoebox72
07-19-2004, 07:47 PM
On a related note, How many of you guys have garages constructed of cinder blocks? I'm not the carpenter/mason type but I should be as I'm looking to buy a house soon & alot of homes in my area have garages made of cinder blocks.

How do you mount cabinets,shelves etc; to block walls? Do you just use regular cement floor paint for the walls?

Thanks. Billy

Roothawg
07-19-2004, 07:59 PM
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Root, didn't we go through this subject earlier this year? Did it make it into TECH?



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Not to my knowledge but here ya go......
First one (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=366342&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=all&vc=1)

second one (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=349066&Forum=A ll_Forums&Words=%20shop&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Sear chpage=0&Limit=100&Old=allposts&Main=348549&Search =true#Post349066)

Drewfus
07-19-2004, 08:12 PM
Here is a link to a forum which, whilst being 4x4 orietated, is quite useful for anyone who enjoys thier shed........

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=55

Cheers,

Drewfus http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

delaware george
07-19-2004, 08:17 PM
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Mutt
07-19-2004, 08:26 PM
[ QUOTE ]
On a related note, How many of you guys have garages constructed of cinder blocks? I'm not the carpenter/mason type but I should be as I'm looking to buy a house soon & alot of homes in my area have garages made of cinder blocks.

How do you mount cabinets,shelves etc; to block walls? Do you just use regular cement floor paint for the walls?

Thanks. Billy

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Mine is block. You screw wood slats to the walls to mount the cabinets to - Home Depot has a kit that contains the drill bit and screw driver assembly, and the box of screws comes with the correct size bits also. You can use any paint on the walls - use a primer to avoid the paint soaking in.

Mutt

Chaz
07-19-2004, 09:57 PM
Mine has about another year to go before its all done, but after 20 years in a double car garage my new place is like HEAVEN. I'm doing all kinds of strange crap in here, but maybe you can get a few ideas. Just click the link. [url= http://kaparich.homestead.com/strangedays.html

shoebox72
07-19-2004, 10:55 PM
Thanks Mutt. I knew it could be done I just wasn't sure how.

Billy

slowpoke
07-20-2004, 12:03 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Hanging 16' ladder on an exterior wall is a good way to get your house broken into. 2nd storey windows often are not as secure (or even closed or locked in warm weather) as main floor, and B&E guys know it. Not a criticism, just a thought.

[/ QUOTE ] Good point never thought of that...but then I've never had a two story either http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Hmmm well Django for few bucks more (and if your garage is long enough) Home Depot and the likes have several ceiling type mounts that work great for things like ladders, wood and lots of misc trim pieces. I have a pair of these (http://www.organizes-it.com/poH13010.php) they work great. Then again break out the welder and fab something for a close fit to the ceiling if need be.

Tman
07-20-2004, 12:45 AM
Hell my 16 foot ladder was stolen, didnt try to get in anywhere!

Two words, GARDEN SHED!!!! Build the biggest one you city will allow. All that lawn shit neds to be out of the way. Also a good place to store extra oil, fluids, paint etc....I would rather have a cheap shed burn down with a few rakes that to have my shop go up with the cars in it.

Also, Daily drivers need their own garage or stay outside. the day you let dailys in the shop you will regret it. Grinding, painting needs a shop, not the little ladies SUV in the way!

Jeff Norwell
07-20-2004, 08:03 AM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gifWOW...These reponses are excatly what I needed...great Ideas......now I just got to find some spare cash,moving really drains the bank account. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Paul
07-20-2004, 08:59 AM
yeah, a lot of good ideas.

gunna use several of them. thanks.

I moved into my place last fall and still have stuff piled around,

been too busy working on the projects to really get organized.

I must admit I didn't read every response, but

if somebody said to use roll around work benches and tool boxes

I totaly agree.

I have three roll around work tables,

one steel for fabbing (dirty)

one stainless for working on motors (clean) and

one wood for misc. stuff. (heavy)

a couple rollaround tool boxes

and welders on carts too.

garbage cans in every corner help in a big shop too.

Paul