O/T Digital cameras.

[J Man]

I am looking into getting a newer and better digital camera but not sure which one to get or how many mega pixles. I was wondering if some of you would post a pic from your camerea and let me know the type and how many mega pixles it has. I thought this may give me a better idea of what to get. Thanks.

Jason

['Flyin' Dutchman']

Go here! You'll find everything you want.

www.dpreview.com (http://www.dpreview.com)

[Slide]

24t- Just about any digital camera available today has too many megapixels to post on the board, so I doubt you'll learn anything that way.

That said, I have to do a lot of digital photography for my job, and I have had the opportunity to borrow samples from every major brand. If you really care about your high-res (more megapixels), spend the extra on a Nikon or Canon. Even the lower-megapixel models of these have better images than high-megapixel units from the other brands.

If you primarily want to email photos and post them on websites, just make sure you get one from a brand you have heard of...Olympus, Fuji, HP, Nikon, Canon, etc.

I strongly recommend going to a camera store (not an electronics store) to try out all the models in your price range. One thing to really look for is the lag time between the time you hit the shutter release button and the time the camera actually takes the picture. (I tried out a Fuji one time that had almot 2 seconds of lag! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif)

To make this reply even longer, I'd go on record to say that Sony needs to stick to other electronics and give up on their trashy picture quality of their digital cameras.

PM me if you want me to take this any further http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I can probably get you some samples off my Nikon, but I'd have to email them.

[Petejoe]

After you decide what you need go to egghead to buy it.
Good prices. Don't buy more megapixels than you need.
Most people only require two at the max.
egghead (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/502394/ref=eg_hp_cs_1_32/102-2869441-3689727)

[Hyfire]

That link is a good one. Just keep in mind Nikon people will always be Nikon people and Canon people will always be Canon people. It is like Ford vs. Chevy. Take everything with a grain of salt.

The Canon 10D is a great SLR, but will be replaced soon by a new model. The 6mp will beat a 8mp sony, so dont go by megapixels alone. If you need a point and shoot instead of SLR you cant go wrong with a Sony product... almost any of them, although you get what you pay for.

Good luck,
Josh

[Hyfire]

Dont go by samples. Any current camera will look good on a monitor, it is the final print quality that matters. 3.2 is the minimal for 8x10 prints, but most consumer cameras have 5 to 8mp now. Buy for optics like a Carl Z lens (Sony)... you wont regret it. If you want to spend more buy Nikon or Canon, but if you are like 90% of the people you would be guilty of overkill. 10D is $1500.00 without a lens, Sony sells great camera with great quality for around $350.00, just stay away from the new F828 (It is $900.00 and has issues with the CCD)

[Slide]

Hyfire- The reason I don't like the Sonys is all the noise they put in the digital file. If I want the grainy look, I can play with camera ISO settings or fire up Photoshop. I'll agree the optics are there, but the digital part is not up to Sony's standard for quality electronics IMO.

A friend of mine just helped me out on a Photo shoot recently, and we used his "old" 3.2 mp Canon digital Rebel. The shots came back awesome...much better than the 8 mp Sony samples I saw on a web site's review last week.

I will say that's a great composition on the photo you posted. Good eye!

[Unkl Ian]

I've got a Fuji 3800.
3.2 mega pixles,blablabla http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Picture quality at 8x10 isn't what I hoped for,4x6 is ok.

Easy enough to use,doesn't reproduce colors as closely as I would like.

Buy 2 smaller memory cards instead of 1 huge one.

[Unkl Ian]

And get LOTS of batteries.

[Kojack]

Yeah, it comes down to what you're doing with the camera. If you're just snapping photos and looking at them on the computer, 3 megapixels will do the trick. But if you want anything to look good on paper over a 5x7, get at least a 5.0.

Also, camera SUCK power. I wouldn't spend a dime on one that didn't have a rechargable pack with it. Forget batteries.

[OGNC]

For work I use a Canon Eos 10D or a Digital Rebel (the Digital Rebel is lighter and easier to carry around an event all day in the hot sun). Huge images and the print quality between the tow cameras is identical. The 10D has a metal body and a few extra features that the Rebel doesn't but I find myself using the Rebel more and more.

For personal stuff that I am going to toss up on the internet I use a Sony DCS-717. Great point & shoot camera. Lense quality is very good for a simple point & shoot, it was cheap (check e-bay or Amazon) the flash works well, it is fairly compact compared to a SLR, it has a ton of features and if I decide to print something from the Sony it'll do 8x10 no problem (it is 5-megapixals plus).

['Flyin' Dutchman']

I might wanna buy an EOS 10D... I can get one second hand from our local photographer here in town, he's a good friend of mine.
Any tips, what should I keep in mind...

Or is it smarter to wait for the new model that comes out???

[Hyfire]

All depends on the cost. Some older 10D cameras had focus issues... Not all, but some. Most do not, but some do.
The 10D is said to get about 10,000-15,000 shots before needing to be sent in for reconditioning. They do have programs to find out how many shots have been taken. I would not pay over $850.00 for a "A" condition used body without a lens. But that is up to you. I would rather bite the bullet and get a new one, unless it is too good of a deal for the used one. When the replacement comes out the 10D will show up everywhere for bargain prices.
If you are willing to spend $1500.00 I would say wait for the new one. It will be 8+mp, and the more the better.
The 10D and the Rebel offer an extremely clean picture. The "noise" in cheaper cameras may not be all that bad but gets worse in lower lighting. The only downside of the SLR is that you do need to buy lens and becuase of CCD size, getting a wide-angle is pricey.

Best of Luck....
Josh

[cosmo]

I went through this a few months back. Looked at all the photo mags, and all recommended the Kodak DX6490. I bought it, and am VERY happy. 4.0 megapixels, 10X optical zoom (digital zoom sucks old moose dick), and big enough for my oversize paws.
However, Kodak processing software S.O.M.D. (see above), so I use Photoshop 7.0.
The Canon i960 printer also came highly rated, and I am super pleased with that as well. My photos look better than I ever got with film.
So, check with the mags, and make up your OWn mind.
BTW, the DX6490 is $400.00 at Best Buy.

[59BuickWagon]

About everything you need to know can be found in the forums at dpreview.com

[J Man]

I have been using 35mm SLR camera for around the last 13 years. I bought my first one in 10th grade. It was a Canon and I used it for around 8 years or so. I then decided I didn't want an all manual camera anymore and bought a Nikon N50 with a Tamron 28-200 MM lens. I can honestly say that I have no complaints on either one.

My current digital cam is a Sony DCR-TRV520 NTSC digital handycam (8mm video as well). I am not happy with the quality of the pictures I get out of it and use it for e bay.

Due to my experiences with Canon and Nikon SLR cameras, that is what I wanted to get. The one I have had my eye on is the Canon EOS 6.3MP that comes with a 28-55mm lens. I know that I would need a lens that would go up to 200mm at the least. This camera comes with a recargable battery but I can't tell if it charges in the camera or out of it in a charger. Also, a memory card is not included. Does anyone know what size card would be best and how many pics I would get out of the card.

I am looking for a camera that would replace my 35 MM at shows as my primary camera. My thought was to take all the pics I want at the shows and then at the end of the season I would load them onto a disc for long term storage.

OGNC, Do you use a 35mm camera anymore for work or is it digital only?

Thanks for your help and comments.

Jason

[Hyfire]

The battery is charged externally. The card you need is 512 mb at least, One gig is nice too... I find the one gig is great for me becuase I shoot alot of RAW format.

Remember 200 MM film is not the same as 200 MM in digital. The 28-55mm is a VERY poor lens. Go for a prime 50. Digital shows every weakness in a lens.

Best Regards,
Josh

[Hyfire]

Jason,
Took a look at your profile... 1955 Plymouth.. Good Stuff. Send over photos...

Gotta love Sport-Tone cars!
www.hyfire.com (http://www.hyfire.com)

[J Man]

What exactly is RAW format? also you said the 200mm on a 35mm camera is not the same as a digital, what do you mean by that? If I was to get one lens what mm range should it be in?

As far as the '55 it is a project I just picked up. It is a 2 door sedan. I am in the part collecting stage right now. I have getting a lot of stuff off of a 4 door that a guy near me has been parting out. I am actually waiting to get the room in the garage to buy the frame, I am going to do a Fatman frame stub with bags and then swap the body over to that frame. I also want to run a newer motor but not shure what, not a Hemi. I am in need of some good fenders if you know of anyone. I have been on the Cherrysoda site a lot of times looking at things.

[Hyfire]

(((NOTICE: For anyone else who is reading this, This info is for SLR digital cameras only (Removable lens), this info doesnt apply to standard point and shoot digital cameras.)))

Jason,

RAW format is uncompressed and are not edited by the camera. When you shoot shots in JPG they are modified and adjusted to compensate for lighting temperature, exposure, contrast, sharpness and so on... all automatically by the camera, then the image is compressed to take up less room, which adds artifacts and degrades the image. RAW captures the image and lets you get it untouched. It does no good for stuff going on the we, but if you want to make large posters or fine art prints it can help.

In regards to focal length, the reason a 50mm is different from film to digital is because the size of the CCD in the camera is different (smaller) than the size of a 35mm film frame. It is more accurate to say that a portion is cropped off, but when buying a lens you can just do a conversion to see what you will actually get. A 50mm lens that gave you a wide enough image to stand 4 foot back, will require you to stand back a couple more feet to get the same image. I dont know the exact conversion off the top of my head, but a 50mm turns into a 80mm when put on a digital SLR. This means any lens will turn "longer", which sucks if you like wide angle because you have to pay $450.00 for a 20mm wide, only to get a 30mm lens.
Only you know what lens you will use most. Myself, I use a wide 20mm (450.00), 50mm ($80.00)... I have a bunch of telephotos, but I never use them. In my opinion I wouldnt buy anything but Canon brand, although many people like off-brands, the image quality is off and on. Keep in mind that prime lens (that dont zoom) are sharper. Zoom lens like 28-50mm produce softer images.

[Hyfire]

I miss my 1955 Plymouth, but I had it for about 12 years and I was bored with it.

CherrySoda.Com is way overdue for some rehab. I have tons more information to add and many updates, but I have been too busy with work. I have a hotrod and another cadillac site that I am going to post to it when I get time.
Good luck with progress on your cars, Please keep me informed when you do start on it, I would love to feature it on the site.
Also, make sure you join the free mailing list at:
www.forwardlook.net (http://www.forwardlook.net) They have about 600 1955-1962 MoPar owners and will be able to help with parts, such as your fenders. Great bunch of guys... Real car types.

Best Regards,
Josh

[cheap-n-dirty]

this was taken with a kodak easy share 6330. it has a docking printer that lets you print or down load to the computor. it is a point and is very easy to use.

[J Man]

What kind of sedan is that off to the left? Thanks for the example.

[cheap-n-dirty]

I think that it is a 26 or 27 t sedan. i will see it tonite at the local cruise the in manteca .