Hey Guys my brother chopped his 48 chevy all by himself! [Archive]

Demon

07-12-2004, 02:54 PM

CHOP:.....

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Demon

07-12-2004, 02:57 PM

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Demon

07-12-2004, 03:00 PM

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The un-experianced who worked on it!

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Demon

07-12-2004, 03:01 PM

So what do all yall think?

zman

07-12-2004, 03:19 PM

Someone had a sale on white T's and hair grease....

Nice to see someone has some motivation to just get it done.

Demon

07-12-2004, 03:31 PM

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Someone had a sale on white T's and hair grease....

Nice to see someone has some motivation to just get it done.

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http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif hahahaahaah yeah

RocketDaemon

07-12-2004, 03:33 PM

looks nice, and i like the airscoop in the hood http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

michaelthe9

07-12-2004, 03:50 PM

Scary stuff. I will be attempting my own one of these days. I am glad to see guys doin' it themselves. We will keep the skills alive that way.
Kool on your brother.
Michael

Hyfire

07-12-2004, 03:55 PM

OUCH!

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Tuff Tin

07-12-2004, 08:17 PM

Hell of a good job and that "hood scoop" somebody so fondly called it is I'm sure a pie cut section of the hood. really makes those Chevys look sleek!
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Demon

07-13-2004, 02:30 AM

hehehhehe so what do you all think??? the experianced KustomIZERS who chop classics!? what do you all think??

DrJ

07-13-2004, 02:57 AM

I like the shape so far.
Watch out you don't get a flat spot where the back window frame section is welded to the roof. flex a lathe, strip of steel, fishing pole, whatever will bend in a gentle arc over the whole top and check for areas that don't follow that arc, low spots, flat spots, high spots.
You guys got a gas torch?
You're gonna need it to hammer weld and shrink the "owies" out of it.
and to spread the lead...Youu are going to lead it, right? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
What happened to that drip rail? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Anything can be done or redone with just some more cutting and welding.
Good looking family riding in there!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Tman

07-13-2004, 03:09 AM

He doesnt plan on filling the rear window does he?

Tman

07-13-2004, 03:10 AM

Bet that old paint welds nicely?

Tony Bones

07-13-2004, 03:17 AM

Pretty haircuts.

Nice job on the chop too.

redpunk

07-13-2004, 03:57 AM

Looking Good, keep us updated too...

bigron

07-13-2004, 05:28 AM

yea no shit don't fill in the back window!

chopolds

07-13-2004, 07:08 AM

Howza bout some criticism? You gotta be more careful about making your cuts, and having little to no gap at the seams...esp. on the windshield posts. Doesn't make for a nice weld job, with huge gaps! More work, more grinding, more warping, more bondo!

Rocky

07-13-2004, 08:13 AM

Yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking too but you may notice my similar-year Poncho coupe isn't chopped so I don't have a lotta room to whine.
I was also wondering if the structure inside the posts has been welded back together.
Are all the relief cuts really necessary? Seems like a helluva lotta work to smooth out all that welding.
That said, I always did love the look of a chopped 40s GM coupe...keep us informed on further developments as he puts it back together..Thanks.

Mai Ki-Ki

07-13-2004, 09:29 AM

looking pretty good....overall...hope the details sort out nicely...hope you were all weariung sunscreen! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif..how long it take to do?????

Cheers

Maiki

CheaterChris

07-13-2004, 10:16 AM

A drive way chop job fuckin rules anytime!!! I am glad he did it, now make him finish it. Than lets see it again, keep us posted!!

nice job esss-ay

MyBootsOnFire

07-13-2004, 02:33 PM

I helped on this car(I'm driving in the big group picture)and i gotta say, that sunscreen comment would have been helpful before we started. I look like Hank Hill when i take my shirt off now. That being said, the back window is not being filled. The car looks good, but there's still a lot of work to do. The relief cuts could probably have been planned better, but live and learn i guess. We started on the car about 12:30, stopped for BBQ, and wrapped it up about 9. We got the roof chopped, and the passeneger side post moved back, but everything is still just tacked.

Tman

07-13-2004, 02:52 PM

Thats the key, you LEARNED from what you did! From what I can tell the profile will be nice.

speedaddict

07-13-2004, 02:56 PM

is it me or did you guys not use any bracing for the car???? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

slowpoke

07-13-2004, 03:43 PM

MyBootsOnFire,
It looks like you guys have a book on the right front fender in those posts...what was it? Nice profile on the car. I hope to be that brave with my "still a dream" A coupe.

Demon

07-13-2004, 11:23 PM

I think it might of been that chopping book.. which didnt really matter because that book didnt help much anyway! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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MyBootsOnFire,
It looks like you guys have a book on the right front fender in those posts...what was it? Nice profile on the car. I hope to be that brave with my "still a dream" A coupe.

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Demon

07-13-2004, 11:34 PM

Update! http://theblackrosephantoms.com/forums/files/dscn0002_786.jpg

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Demon

07-13-2004, 11:38 PM

myboots, hey im Edgars brother... I post here alot to help his dumb ass get opinions from experiance car customizers..

this is me posting on this forum because he wont know how to navigate and operate this... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

UPDATE*

Today he cut some of the sides of the car and is trying to fit and weld peices onto the sides, where he made cuts, as seen in the pics.... and Yes he has a gas welder but our Garage has no 220 connection http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif ......

kustombuilder

07-13-2004, 11:52 PM

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i think he should have figured out how to finish the hood before he started cuttin up the rest of the car. ...you asked http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif...

shoebox72

07-14-2004, 12:17 AM

Just to save yourself alot of extra work,although it may be too late, you should really invest in an assortment of clamps in various lengths & depths. I, personaly, would cut some of the tack welds & see if you can get the pieces to fit a little better before progressing too much further. I'd also recommend gas welding the posts. I'm not here to break your balls but I just don't want to see people laugh at you or talk shit behind your back when because some guys on the net said it looks great & it actully don't. I give you guys alot of credit because it takes some balls to cut a top for the first time. A little time now working out fit & alignment will save alot of grief later.

Billy

daddyo54

07-14-2004, 12:36 AM

I second the clamps.Someone mentioned welding paint , if you would grind the paint back some it will weld alot better and cleaner.(less grinding and clean up later!)That being said it looks like your moving in the right direction keep it up.

Demon

07-14-2004, 12:59 AM

For a first timer.. Easier said than Done. As we go on we learn.

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Just to save yourself alot of extra work,although it may be too late, you should really invest in an assortment of clamps in various lengths & depths. I, personaly, would cut some of the tack welds & see if you can get the pieces to fit a little better before progressing too much further. I'd also recommend gas welding the posts. I'm not here to break your balls but I just don't want to see people laugh at you or talk shit behind your back when because some guys on the net said it looks great & it actully don't. I give you guys alot of credit because it takes some balls to cut a top for the first time. A little time now working out fit & alignment will save alot of grief later.

Billy

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Cadillacin Marcus

07-14-2004, 01:02 AM

Looks Good to me..Shit yeah ..Nice work...

MyBootsOnFire

07-14-2004, 01:57 AM

Hey Egdar's bro, nice to meet you, my name's Chris. Anyways, the book on the fender was Tex Smith's book on top chopping. Not a whole lot of detail but some good tips that saved some grief. One thing we did know to do was to brace the body, even if you can't see it in the pic. Esp. since it was a post car, we knew once that post came out and the roof off w/o bracing we'd be in for some fun. Gas welding would have been ideal, but the tig trips the garage's breaker and the mig was there. Overall, I'm pretty stoked on the progress. Perfect, nah, but neither am I. Then again if it were perfectly done we'd have our own show on discovery. As far as the criticism, no worries. I may be young, but one thing I've already learned, real friends stab you in the front.
P.S. Oh yea, the hood, I didn't have anything to do with that, blame ADD I guess.

burndup

07-14-2004, 02:55 AM

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Thats cool, WAAY fuckin wise beyond his years!

james

07-14-2004, 09:41 AM

"We have a gas welder but the garage has no 220?" Uhh, am I missing something here? I think everyone was refering to oxy-acatalyne welding, which, unless there have neen some advancements in technology that I'm unaware of, doesn't need to be plugged in. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
That said, looks like a good job for backyard hacking to me. Sure, it's not a $5000 no filler job, but looks pretty damn good to me. I would think about using some strong peices inside the a pillar. It'll keep them together in case you get in a wreck.

Demon

07-14-2004, 05:23 PM

The hood he fucked up on it hahahahahahaah!! I dont think he knows what to do with that.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif And as for the welder guy.. Im a Graphic Designer/Web Designer... I dont know much about welders.... so I dont know I might of heard him wrong... ehh http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif and the topic title is wrong.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif He chopped his car with the help of his friend (My mistake sorry)
Sorry.. when I made this topic I was buzzed and just came from the TIGER ARMY show.... which by the way was a good show!! (My friends, BLACK ROSE PHANTOMS) played very well!

I'll keep you all, updated as progress continues......

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Hey Egdar's bro, nice to meet you, my name's Chris. Anyways, the book on the fender was Tex Smith's book on top chopping. Not a whole lot of detail but some good tips that saved some grief. One thing we did know to do was to brace the body, even if you can't see it in the pic. Esp. since it was a post car, we knew once that post came out and the roof off w/o bracing we'd be in for some fun. Gas welding would have been ideal, but the tig trips the garage's breaker and the mig was there. Overall, I'm pretty stoked on the progress. Perfect, nah, but neither am I. Then again if it were perfectly done we'd have our own show on discovery. As far as the criticism, no worries. I may be young, but one thing I've already learned, real friends stab you in the front.
P.S. Oh yea, the hood, I didn't have anything to do with that, blame ADD I guess.

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cleatus

07-14-2004, 06:00 PM

Well,, I'll give you an "A" for just jumping right on into it.

Nevermind finishing the piecut hood, now it's time to start the section on the body! - just kidding.

Hey, I pretty much started the same way - no clue - just ambition and learn as you go.

Here's my tip: Be sure to not leave ANY pinholes in the welds, moisture will eventually get in from behind and get under the body filler, etc. and fuck up all your hard work. Also, it would behoove you to remove all the paint from around the areas you are welding - it will make the welds turn out much cleaner and easier to do - won't be sputtering and splating all the while you work.

Now finish that piecut! Tell your bro he will need to cut it loose from the hinge bracket inside.

MercMan1951

07-14-2004, 10:29 PM

There's only one way to learn...I give you credit for jumping in and doing it...I'll withold all other comments until I actually chop my Merc, since I only speak from seeing it done by someone else...

Demon

07-14-2004, 11:27 PM

The Inside, (top) is being temporarly re-enforced by this steel bar.... Also he got one door done.. as seen in the following images:

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Peice for the other side.. currently in progress..

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MyBootsOnFire

07-15-2004, 01:53 AM

Man, he's really made a lot of progress since Sunday. I need to get back over there, I feel like I'm missin out on all the fun!

Demon

07-15-2004, 03:28 PM

Yeah, you should help him with that hood! it's annoying me http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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spudshaft

07-15-2004, 06:22 PM

You've got huge huge balls to do that. The shape looks good. The welds look a little scary with the gaps though. Keep posting the updates, I'm enjoying your progress.

Chopped50Ford

07-15-2004, 08:07 PM

Hey first thing, you have big balls to do a chop and gas weld it for the first time.

The shape is looking great...shoot, if the picts were black and white, they could go in the ole Barris books...Thier welds look like canyons too.

Keep it up, keep us posted....

The only way to do it (when you cant afford someone else to do it) is dive in and do it yourself...

At least they did some reading up on it first too....

Great job ...

Demon

07-15-2004, 09:56 PM

He hasnt gas welded anything...

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Hey first thing, you have big balls to do a chop and gas weld it for the first time.

The shape is looking great...shoot, if the picts were black and white, they could go in the ole Barris books...Thier welds look like canyons too.

Keep it up, keep us posted....

The only way to do it (when you cant afford someone else to do it) is dive in and do it yourself...

At least they did some reading up on it first too....

Great job ...

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Hot Rod Ron

07-16-2004, 12:40 AM

Keep the pics comin it looks really good for a first chop. More power to him.

Chopped50Ford

07-16-2004, 12:42 AM

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Hey first thing, you have big balls to do a chop and gas weld it for the first time.

The shape is looking great...shoot, if the picts were black and white, they could go in the ole Barris books...Thier welds look like canyons too.

Keep it up, keep us posted....

The only way to do it (when you cant afford someone else to do it) is dive in and do it yourself...

At least they did some reading up on it first too....

Great job ...

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I guess I stand corrected then.

SamIyam

07-16-2004, 01:03 AM

For a first chop, it ain't bad.

For his second chop... I'd suggest cutting out the quarter windows completely, maybe even start the cut in the upper door jam area, and then lowr the lid.

After it's lowered, fit the quarter windows to the whole that is there... you'll end up cutting the 1/4 window in four pieces and then shortening each side to fit. More seams to weld, but less gap to imagineer.

Other than that, I'm sure it is going to look great once all the filler work is done... I mean, some of the RAT CUSTOMS that you see aren't HALF as nice as that thing is... jokers who just hammer the lid and leave shit un done... weird shaped 1/4 windows etc.

Sam.

Demon

07-16-2004, 01:43 AM

Today he didnt do anything..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

atch

07-16-2004, 10:00 AM

demon,

could i make a suggestion, please? and this is from experience; i wish i would have done it on mine.

on the upper piece on the back of the passenger door: before you all do any more welding i recommend you slice from the weld joint up a ways (actually a VERY SMALL pie cut) and bring the rear edge forward enough to line up with the bottom piece and make the gap consistent.

after you're done you'll be glad you did.

my hat's off to you, your brother, and all the folks who have helped so far.