Evans Flathead equipment?? is it rare ?? tell me more

[tankwilson]

Came across a fellow car guy that has Evans Aluminum heads and 3x2 intake for a flathead. Is Evans rare?? Can't seem to find much about them. Can any of you guys tell me more.

He wants to sell them for $400. Use to be his dad's on his 32 back in the day.

Sounds cool to me.

Thanks

[Kiwi Tinbender]

Are you kidding me? if you don`t buy those right now ....so help me....don`t make me come over there!!!!.....Sorry..got a little carried away. Earl `Pappy`Evans was one of the great postwar flathead builders...

[lakes modified]

You can still find the Evans stuff around, but you have to look for it some. For $400, that's not a bad price for heads & intake, so do it, before someone else does.

[tankwilson]

The cool part about this is that these came from my buddies dad that bought all the stuff new back in the day. He use to race and ran these parts. Really cool stuff. I guess they you don't come across this everyday.

[Mercmad]

Any chance a Pappy Evans Built flattie is laying about too? :D

[Bruce Lancaster]

That's cheap. Jump. Or send me the address.

[alchemy]

I don't know...it depends on the condition. Give me the address and I'll go check it over for ya, since I'm in Iowa too.

[SinisterCustom]

IMO, Evans was/is some of THE best flatty speed equip.....right up there with Eddie Meyer and Navarro....

Check the heads over well before buying.....but it does sound like a killer deal.

[tankwilson]

Kinda of a dumb question but what should i look for on the heads??

Thanks

[Big A]

Kinda of a dumb question but what should i look for on the heads??

Thanks

A sold sticker.

Then punch your buddy in the neck for selling his father's speed equipment.

[1952henry]

[quote=tankwilson;2395871]Kinda of a dumb question but what should i look for on the heads??

I would be looking for corrosion around the water ports and on gasket surfaces.

[tankwilson]

can i have the head plained if they have corrosion or nicks around water ports or gasket surface??

[HEATHEN]

Yes, up to a point. If you mill flathead heads too much, you'll have to "redome" them for proper piston clearance.

[continentaljohn]

I would buy the goodies at that price and the intake alone is worth 300 clams. The heads are even more if good. I check the heads by putting them together on the block surface and see the gap if any. Also will tell you if they could be warped and as said corrosion. You have a good buddy by selling you the parts so cheap. Toss them on a flatty and enjoy!

[Kilroy]

Evans speed equipment is way cool...

$400 seems cheap... Add to that the fact that unlike Navarro etc, Evans can't be remanufactured from the same molds and to me the value goes up.

Evans molds were wood based and were left outside in the weather for years. They still exist but are junk and to repop the Evans stuff, you'd need to retool... Could still happen but not likely.

One other thing to look for though is that I've heard that Evans had problems in the foundry process... People say that his attention to detail as far as casting integrity left something to be desired. I haven't seen any evidence of this myself but I've only had a few Evans parts in my hands...

Good luck with the deal.

[DE SOTO]

Is it "PAPPY" or "POP" Evens ?

My buddy bought out of the Local Want Ads a Model "A" Cast Iron Cylinder head that say right on it "POP EVENS" "HI COMPRESSION"

Very cool head.. has it on his Roadster Pick Up..

Just to let ya know, I Sold an EVENS 3x2 Flatty manifold about 5 years ago for $250.00...

$400.00 sounds like a decent deal today

[banjorear]

Is it "PAPPY" or "POP" Evens ?

My buddy bought out of the Local Want Ads a Model "A" Cast Iron Cylinder head that say right on it "POP EVENS" "HI COMPRESSION"

Very cool head.. has it on his Roadster Pick Up..

Just to let ya know, I Sold an EVENS 3x2 Flatty manifold about 5 years ago for $250.00...

$400.00 sounds like a decent deal today

I believe they are not the same Evans.

Curious, I never heard Earl Evans referred to as "Pappy", but what the hell do I know!?!

[Bruce Lancaster]

Pretty sure also, 2 Evanses...
Charley Price knows a lot about Evans; call up Vintage speed, if an old guy answers the phone you can get an hour of neat info--if an old woman answers, say "00ps! Wrong number!"

[tankwilson]

Can someone point me to a webpage that will give me more info on Evans Equipment. I can't find anything on the net.

[Mercmad]

A good source are those early 50's hop up books ,such as the ones which featured loius Senter etc ( titles elude me...)
This Earl Evans in a Dean Moon pic.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/Mercmad/img091.jpg

[HHRdave]

Buy or Cry !!!!

[302GMC]

I would buy the goodies at that price and the intake alone is worth 300 clams. The heads are even more if good. I check the heads by putting them together on the block surface and see the gap if any. Also will tell you if they could be warped and as said corrosion. You have a good buddy by selling you the parts so cheap. Toss them on a flatty and enjoy!
If you have a straight edge & a .004 feeler gauge, that's the max amount allowable in most machine shops ... Di-Chek or similar dye test will show any cracks ...

[tankwilson]

I got them bought. Can anyone point me to a webpage that has info on Evans.

Thanks

[continentaljohn]

You know whats funny is that 4x2 evens intake in the picture was on ebay. The name was ground off and I wasn't sure if it was old or what? same one damm

[Just plain Bill]

I was at a car show in Glendora a few years back and we were BS"ing about flatheads and I said that I only had 1 piece left, an Evans intake that someone had polished and it only had the name across the front. Pretty soon a guy came up and asked if I still had the manifold, when I said yes he said that it was pretty rare and they had been looking and couldn't find one. His club was making a repop of Wally Parks roadster and would I consider selling or donating the manifold. He told me that Art Chrisman had donated the Evan's heads, so I said if old Art can donate the heads then I guessed that I could donate the manifold. I don't know Art Chrisman, I have spoken to him once, but i thought it sounded pretty good. If you go to the NHRA museum at the Fairplex in Pomona ca you will see the Evan's manifold that I donated on Wally Parks repop'ed roadster.

[myke]

If the heads need welding repair, take my advice forget it. The aluminium evans used was not very good. I spent a bunch of money on a set and they still could not be fixed.

A useable set of heads 700 to 1000 on ebay depending what day. 21 stud are worth more.

300 to 400 for the intake. Kinda of a pain because there is no generator bracket so you have to make one.

I ended up finding a set of NOS ones.

Cool picture of Pop Evans!

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/fiddybucks/32%203%20window/me053.jpg

[tankwilson]

http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/39622/2297417510048745923S600x600Q85.jpg

Well got em today. Look usable to you guys. Yes i got both heads. Now can someone tell me how to setup the carbs and what ones to use.

Thanks

[myke]

They look great. Can you post a picture of the bottom of the heads?

You should be able to measure 3/8" depth at the valve pocket.

[R.C.]

I have a set of 21 stud heads on the motor in my 34. I had to really pay for them but they are NICE. I don't think they made very many sets of 21 stud heads, and mine are for a 37 ford block not the 36 and earlier.
pics are @
http://groups.msn.com/rcr
under "34 sedan"
later RC

[tankwilson]

http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/42466/2885028480048745923S600x600Q85.jpg

Looks like the water jackets do have some corrision but not bad i think???

[myke]

Nope they look pretty decent. Looks like you did well. How deep is the valve pocket?

[tankwilson]

measure with a tape measure they are just a shy of 3/8" Not exactly precise.

[myke]

Nice. That's really good news.

I am running 3 stromberg 81's with straight linkage. My engine is a 276 with 9 to 1 compression.

[tankwilson]

I am currently building a 27 T coupe with a 52 ford pickup flathead with stock heads and a fenton intake. Will the Evans heads bump my compression or change anything??

[Cyclone Kevin]

Evans speed equipment is way cool...

$400 seems cheap... Add to that the fact that unlike Navarro etc, Evans can't be remanufactured from the same molds and to me the value goes up.

Evans molds were wood based and were left outside in the weather for years. They still exist but are junk and to repop the Evans stuff, you'd need to retool... Could still happen but not likely.

One other thing to look for though is that I've heard that Evans had problems in the foundry process... People say that his attention to detail as far as casting integrity left something to be desired. I haven't seen any evidence of this myself but I've only had a few Evans parts in my hands...

Good luck with the deal.

Phil.
Earl Evans moved around quite a bit. He was @ one time only over 2 blocks aways from Cook's then he eventually settled in Whittier Then on Seman in So. El Monte under Gene Ohly's current ownership.

The tooling can be replicated, but with the costs involved. it would be "cost prohibitive" The same goes for the Weiand tooling. It was also left out in the weather to deteriorate. I mean with Navarro,Offy,Edelbrock,Eddie Meyer,Harrell as well as Cyclone, Would one think that the market could support another supplier?

Every one of the above mentioned suppliers casts in much higher volume that us. C'mon now, The collectors would hit the roof like they did when we continued our production. (My 1st set of Heads & Intake are Earl Evans-I was going to gift them to Jake for the Niekamp when he re-restored it 10 yrs ago, he went with the Offy's
because they were brand new and wouldn't have to repair em)

I repaired them & it was an Offenhauser that repaired them, but not the nephews of Fred,but his son Dusty-CTO Machine on Marianna St. in L.A. The ironic thing here is that Dusty was the one that machined all of Edelbrocks Heads and taught me some things.

All of this stuff can be made again, infact maybe even better, Edellbrock retooled for their Block Letter Heads.
We don't own a foundry, so we can't lower our prices to their level, but we also don't put out their volume.

As far as it being a good buy, factor in the cost x-raying the castings for fractures and the repair if needed. 10 yrs ago it cost me $180.00
as well as the cost of the heads which was expensive even then.-Luckilly I found em @ LBHP swap.

They are usable but will never leave my side. All of this is cool and to each their own.

Good luck with them TankWilson.

[tankwilson]

Evans must not have made very many parts. I can't find a single thing about them on the net. Can anyone point me to a webpage or some other info?

Thanks

[Kilroy]

Congrats on the parts, they look pretty nice. It's a little hard to tell from the pictures though...

You should have a reputable machinist look at them though. But don't let him machine them at all untill you thuroughly understand what it is he plans to do and more importantly, why. It's real easy for an over-zealous machinist to turn those parts to junk...

Most of the info on Evans is anectdotal from hot rodders around So-Cal who know the history. Like Kevin.

There isn't a whole lot of info beyond that and I've never seen or heard of a web site with any info.

It's one of those stories that defines you as to what type of hot rodder you are. Not you personally, but in general...

Are you going to accept the info as it exists, or are you going to do a little research?

I found out where his old shop was and drove by... Then I asked around and found bits and pieces of info. Then I met Kevin and he rounded out the story for me.

I kind of like stories like that, where you have to 'peel the onion' so to speak...

[EvansSpeedEquipment]

Patterns are not destroyed, in fact, they are in fair condition. I can provide any information to the best of my knowledge about Earl " Pappy " Evans. Check out my thread on new members. Thanks for your interest.

[EvansSpeedEquipment]

Web page coming soon. www.EvansSpeedEquipment.com (http://www.EvansSpeedEquipment.com).

[Bruce Lancaster]

I've got 24 stud and '32-36 type Evans heads, and dual and triple manifolds. The stuff seems very high quality, and I believe it was one of the heavily used brands in actual racing, along with Edelbrock.

[Sixcarb]

I love Evans speed equipment, I run a 2x2 on my roadster and will run my 4x2 on my sedan if it doesn't end up blown. Mykes setup is defintley on the money. I also have a 3x2......the money you paid was a great deal.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/jmc1932/evans5.jpg

[hotroddon]

When we reconstructed the Chuck Price Roadster (the cover car of the 1st Rods & Customs) last year, we had the original Evans heads and manifold that were on it in 53. I was talking to the second owner and he said look at the heads closely, the chambers are slightly different. He told me that Earl did the shaping and blending on the first head while teaching them how to do it. They then went home and did the other one! From all accounts a really neat guy and under appreciated.
And that 296" flat motor with those heads and manifold, 3 97's and a Isky cam ran pretty damn hard when we got it back together!

[EvansSpeedEquipment]

Hello, do you have pixs of the olds 3X2?

[HELLMET]

i have a evans manifold on my car a friend gave it to me to run. i use it till i get a weiand two carb maifold . billy