Billy Gibbon's new roadster

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who else could own a car like this?

some are better at welding
some are better at fabricating
some are better at painting
some are better at building
some are better artists

FEW are better at everything.

built and painted in Rudy Rodriguez's fucking back yard.

Just when you thought you were good at copying what he was doing a few years ago, he does this.

We are all lucky he likes our kind of cars.

[LIMEY]

I wondered when the cat would come out of the bag, Mr Gibbons is a lucky man & thanks to you i got to see the car just before Rudy finished it.
Best damn thing i've ever seen.

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flawless perfection

[slammed]

Rudy has some serious skill's.

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wasnt official till today.

best car in his collection if you ask me.

[Elmo Rodge]

Rudy's a fucking trip. Wayno

[**DONOTDELETE**]

PEOPLE, I'm not joking. A Mexican kid built that in his driveway then sold it to ZZ Top. Fuck me. We need new words to describe what he does.

RudyPalooza 2005

[FORDY 6]

Nice ride! I should have taken guitar lessons...

[Killer]

Rudys a fag.

[32viper]

Rudy has the right attitude! I'll bet his vocabulary doesn't include the word "can't."!!! Damn fine highboy.

[choprods]

He's obviously seriously TALENTED.
I am ALSO happy Billy-G got the car too...Hes my favorite Guitar player.

[bobx]

did Gibbons have him build it for him, or did he see it/hear about it and then buy it?

[34Fordtk]

About time Billy Gibbons had a cool car....and Rudy was the BEST person to build it!!!!

[36couper]

First, let me say that I think Billy Gibbons is one of the coolest dudes ever to walk the face of the earth. Second, his '36 3w is a car I bet all of us would want.
I'd like to see some more detailed pictures of this roadster......
The kid that built this is talented, but, and this is a big one, what makes this flatty powered, black, skinny tired, chrome axled roadster different than any other? That's an honest question, not cynical. Give us some more details.

[Kilroy]

That's a nice car for sure.

But why are we still talking about a black '32 roadster?

That may be the nicest one around but what's done to it to make it unique?

Let's see...

Brookville body.
Duece frame (American stamping?)
Juice brakes.
flathead
toploader.
black paint (flawless)

It fits the formula but how is what Rudy did worthy of us disregarding 60 years of people doing it before him and crowning his car as the "ultimate" black '32 roadster?

Now let me say that I have pretty much liked every car Rudy's built. The Merc, the gasser, the truck (I never got the hype though) and this roadster... It just doesn't knock my sox off.

I know he has all the skills anyone could want.

But can someone explain the hype?

[34Fordtk]

This isnt hype...wait till it hits a magazine...THEN you WILL see hype................ http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[delaware george]

it's just timeless quality,the kind that you don't get tired of

[av8]

I regret missing the LAR show and the opportunity to meet Rudy and see the roadster first-hand. I did receive feedback from some pals who were there, and the consensus was that the car was, well . . . perfect!

I hope folks don't soon lose sight of the hero in this story. Unless Billy Gibbons -- cool as he is -- was involved from the start, helping to plan and guide the roadster build and provide the wherewithal needed for Rudy to devote his energy and attention to its construction, he's really just a bucks-up gold chainer. Rudy is the hero of this story and we owe it to him to remember that.

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Kilroy, there is no hype. It's me. I have a boring life. Rudy doesnt even know people know his name. He brings his kids to school and goes to his garage. He is so humble it almost makes you feel bad.

I wish the secret cars could get posted, but they cant. Then there would be way too much hype for sure. This roadster is boring. I'm the only one that likes it. He wont do it again. He said it sucked. Honestly, he wants it out of his garage.

No hype. He's real.

[hatch]

I don't know Rudy....but I DO know....he is a traditional hotrodder. He is doing what was done long ago before we were born.....and that would be....working with his hands and improving his skills..... For that, he gets my respect. He isn't building a piece of shit car and passing it off as a hotrod, just to be part of "the scene"

It seems the whole "rat rod" group has lost what the true meaning of hotrodding is....build...learn...build some more....repeat these things for a lifetime.

Don't be amazed at the car....learn from it and improve what you are doing....like REAL hotrodders have been doing for many years. Learn how to paint...or weld...or stitch...or stripe....TRADITION.

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I regret missing the LAR show and the opportunity to meet Rudy and see the roadster first-hand. I did receive feedback from some pals who were there, and the consensus was that the car was, well . . . perfect!

I hope folks don't soon lose sight of the hero in this story. Unless Billy Gibbons -- cool as he is -- was involved from the start, helping to plan and guide the roadster build and provide the wherewithal needed for Rudy to devote his energy and attention to its construction, he's really just a bucks-up gold chainer. Rudy is the hero of this story and we owe it to him to remember that.



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Billy saw the car and had to have it. end of story. There was a long line to buy that car but Billy stepped up first. He is a regular guy that is trapped by his own celebrity. I think both those guys are perfect for eachother. Two Total class acts.

But, that car was built by Rudy and he went to the Show hoping to be able to feed his kids when he came home.

[GRADY]

wow http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
beauty in motion...and I know that this is not the first black 32 ever in existence and that there are probably many more...I just wish I had one sitting in my driveway

[Kilroy]

I don't like gimmicky cars.

This roadster is "perfect." I totally get all that. I have just heard a lot of people calling this roadster the best, the ultimate, and I just don't see that.

I look at this car as a restoration. A museum piece. But one with no history. A new/old work of art. I guess this exemplifies the idea that Perfection has a price.

I also thought Bluey was "perfect" but I think it does a lot more for the eyes than this roadster. This one almost seems sterile. Not just spotlessly clean, but bereft of that fun element that was so prevalent in the cars that inspired it.

Gooch, I ain't bagging on you or Rudy. In fact I think that even if you go as "Perfect" as this roadster with your coupe it will still move me way more. There's just something entrinsiquely unique about it. The ultimate goal of a true master craftsman is Personalization in perfection, I think.

[Judd]

Now Gibbons can go pick up Precious & Grace.

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Kilroy, I gotcha dude.

speaking of which, he did this to my car in one day a few months back. That's worth some hype right?

Mine will be that sterile. I like it like that. My car deserves it. My car needs me to stay the fuck away. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[zibo]

I am glad to finally see pictures of that roadster.
it is really nice.

It proves it can be profitable
to build hot rods!

Makes me want to chrome and paint my stuff!

travis aka zibo

[Deuce Roadster]

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Unless Billy Gibbons -- cool as he is -- was involved from the start, he's really just a bucks-up gold chainer.


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This isnt hype...wait till it hits a magazine...THEN you WILL see hype................ http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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Now...............the car has HISTORY.....owned by Billy Gibbons. and will be in every rag in the country.

I believe we all wish we had one as nice or had the talent to build one, as nice. I certainly do. Bruce Meyers COULD HAVE Bought IT......but he didn't......he only buys cars with a pedigree (history) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

1) I hope Rudy got well on the $ale
2) I hope Rudy got all the money up front......I heard that Billy G owed the builders money on Cadzilla for years.
3) Hopefully ..........the roadster will get driven.....not put up in a sealed vault.


Nice roadster........


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[Tman]

In 30 years, Rudys name will be in all the mags when Billy passes (OK lets say 60 years just to giv the Rev a good,long life http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) The car will be restored to its 2004 "configuration" and you hydrogen poowered jockeys will wax deeply over the "way it was, back in the Day"!

[Byron Crump]

Why the hype? The fit and finish on that car is far better than some of the bigger names out and about. It really is that simple. Many "historical" cars are not as well thought out and finsihed as nice.

In fact, when it comes to kustoms, and the famous ones at that, there is a big reason why they never have the hood up. Some of the big guns at the 40th did not have as nice of cars...hell, out of the so called big guns the one that really impressed me was Roy Briz, he had some nice cars and some historic cars they worked on and they looked awsome...that bearded guy down the ways stuff that is a house hold name was shocking to me...he is slipping IMHO.

As for Billy buying the car, I happend to be in the area. I also rode on the same plane back with him (he was in first class of course)...I have met the guy several times (he would not know me from any other dork), and I get the impression he has turned a wrench in his life and he is living the dream. I mean come on, how many of you would have loved to buy that car or would like So Cal to build you your dream car and be able to write a check...be honest, I know alot of you are out there in HAMBland, it just aint cool to admit it. I know a few of you are true die hards and builders, but I think you are the minority.

Who has not sat in bed late at night dreaming up what you would have built and buy if you won the lotto?

And that car was awsome!

[Ryan]

I like it... and I like Billy...

[Broman]

Two months ago Gooch posted pics of the rolling chassis and the board lit up with praise because it was so perfect. Now it's a done hot-rod and you are yawning?

That car is the cats ass. No "in your face" stuff no wild colors, and no professional shop involved. The car is fucking tight. Who said that you had to build a 32 differently for it to count as an impressive car?

But then what do I know? I didn't think that Mustangs were hot-rods....

[whodaky]

I have only seen a few images of this'new 'roadster and yes it is a stunning hot rod. The special part is the fact that one of the so called big names didn't build it. Just a regular dedicated hot rodder. I say well done and yes some day this hot rod will have history. History is on relegated to cars built in the 40's or 50'! We are all living now what will become history.
I like what Merc had to say about Roy Brizio, I really like the hot rods he is building. Big dollar yes but each one unique in their own right not just a bunch of coupes and roadsters painted in the same style of paint and scallops in you know what I mean.

[PEDDRO]

I think it looks just dandy. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Nice work Rudy.

Gooch: how goes your project?

[mr57]

Anyone else from around here going to see the Reverend Billy G on Saturday???

[LIMEY]

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[LIMEY]

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[haring]

I love everything about this car.

Perfect.

Who needs "different" when you can have "right"?

[SlowLearner]

I don't understand how you can love "traditional hot rods" and NOT love that thing. I haven't seen it personally, only the pictures (including build) courtesy of Gooch. The thing is "ART". Rudy is an ARTIST!! He just happens to be creating his art within the fairly strict confines of a tradition.

It's hard to bag on the car because it doesn't have history. Our entire end of the car nut spectrum can get a little weird. Old is good, agreed. And traditional is good. Some people can have both.

If Matranga, Doane Spencer, Sam Barris and a bunch I can't remember to name right now (and will get properly get shit for not singling out) are the "Old Masters", maybe Ed Roth was our Picasso. But Roth is history now too!! (So's Picasso.)

To say that's "another black 32" is to say to the guy who just finished painting another "Ingres"....

http://www.csun.edu/~hcarh001/305/Ingres.d'Haussonville.jpg



Ya know... that's been DONE. True, and a long time ago. Is it cutting edge? Nope. Is it NEW? Nope. It's in an old (stale?) tradition. Is it art? If it stacks up to the original, (and we're not really talking clone or replica in Rudy's case), it sure as fuck is art! (If you ever get a chance to see the original of that painting, you'll dig what true artistry with paint is!) Of COURSE a new painting in Ingre's style would have no (personal) history, just a long tradition going before it. "How does it measure up?" is the question. Sterile Perfection??

Some people discover a Rembrandt in a barn. Some people are doing fake PATINA fer Crissakes!

Rudy is doing Old Masters. Billy Gibbons just has the taste and bucks to get his own. First time I wished I was Billy.

OK, back to your regular progamming. -Keith

[Mutt]

Hmmmmm....

[stoggie]

Billy Gibbons is a cool guy...we also need to be grateful for him he works a lobbyist for the automotive aftermarket on all issues. He goes to Washington to lobby for good things and bitch about the bad. I think is probably is living the dream. Glad he can afford to do it in this fashion. At least he is involved and understands it.

As for Rudy - no idea who this guy is but I think he better be prepared for a whole new life when this hits the comic books. He will have all the big checkbook guys calling him. What I can see in these pictures it is damn nice work. Glad real craftsmanship is still out there without all the TV drama crap. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nads]

You fuckers are never happy.
hatch nailed it.
The roadster ought to be inspiration to make our shit good, and the fact that Mr. Rodriguez did this level of "good" in his backyard means that we can too, if we're so inclined.
But most of us want to build shitty cars on purpose, what the fuck is that all about?
I'm feeling mighty inadequate right about now.
My club buddy Swiss Mike has a Brookville bodied A on ASC deuce rails, sure the car is new but there's no shortage of hand whittled parts on it. Swissy wanted a car fast, he has a high pressure job and little time. I'm convinced he can massage an original rotted body to perfection but he simply doesn't have the time. He did, however, have the money to buy these new components. Should we poo-poo his efforts?
I don't think so.

[Dat Dirty Rat]

Rudy just continues to take this hobby/lifestyle to higher levels every time he touches some tin..A big 'inspiration' to guys like me...I got to see Billy's cars on display once and they are all just the most amazing Rods/Kustoms. I can only imagne what this car is like in person....

Dirty

[zonkola]

The car rocks. I dig the body/engine color combo.

[Kilroy]

My point was never that this was an ugly car.

It's very, very nice.

My point also was never that it wasn't cool because it doesn't have history. I could give a fuck.

My point is that it is another nice black '32 roadster. One that from what I saw at the roadster show, had plenty of competition for nicest Trad roadster and some of them were a lot more unique.

I guess I just don't get the whole "Rudy'z singlehandedly raising the bar for the hobby" thing.

Or, maybe I have a bad attitude.

Oh and let me add to the people that I have nothing against, Mr. (rev?) Bill "Mother F.'n" Gibbons. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Seems like (I think a talked to him at Paso years ago) a cool guy and he has a bitchin' collection of rods. More power to him that he purchased this fine piece of machinery.

[hatch]

The US has a short "history" in relation to the rest of the world.....If you guys lived in China, you would be bitchin about someones art that is ONLY 1000 years old...not 1200 years like YOURS is...their shit is junk...fake...not traditional...no history...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.....get a life...the car and the builder BOTH rock....and 99.9 percent of the whiners on this board would SELL their mother for a chance to drive it around the block.

[Kilroy]

Who said the sucked cause it's not old?

[RF]

It's a beautiful car, but it's no Picasso (Dan only "draws" cars that nice). Seriously though, it's still a '32 roadster...as nice, flawless, meticulous (pick one or all), as it is, it will always be that, and if it weren't for BFG stepping up to, and over, the plate, the car may not have gotten the huge notoriety it's about to receive.

[SamIyam]

After reading all of your posts... it's apparent that the ghost-of-the-computer-messageboard is haunting you all.

Just log onto a web site about rain gutters...

You'll have guys who manufacture them there.

Guys that Hang gutters on houses.

Guys that restore originals.

Guys that TALK about rain gutters and their history.

Guys that own all the RARE gutters.

And the guys that LOATHE all the caretakers of the rare gutters because they don't have a fucking job and can't even afford to buy those cheap-ass plastic gutters they sell at Home Depot. (no offense to anyone)

And then you have guys that pick gutters apart and their not-so distant cousins that pick what people are saying about gutters apart.


And all of them seem to have a legitimate thing to say about gutters...

Sam.

[cheap-n-dirty]

the guy does nice work. no better no worse than other builders of show quality cars. but is gooch just building the guy up to get extra's for his project?

[SamIyam]

Oh... about the car...

It's easy for the armchair quarterbacks of the hot rodding world to pass judgement on Rudy, Billy and the car... that's a given.

But what is going on here is a sort of changing of the guard.

Rudy is known for his creativeness... you can give two different guys the same parts and they will come up with two distinctively different cars... Rudy is the guy that comes up with the better looking one.

But I can tell you that Rudy hates this car because he had to work outside of his normal realm of "building a car".

This is a restification... a cross between restoring and creating something that has a look and feel to it that conjures up images that can be found in Don Montgomery's books.

He did good for his first attempt at this. (if it is his forst)

But I think what people are trying to point out is that neither the restoration end of it or the "bringing the past to life" end of it are anything new.

That may be true, but I try not to dwell on this side of a build... it takes away from his accomplishment.

You don't shake a stick at a restoration... or any car for that matter, and it suddenly builds itself.

He more than likely put more work into that thing in one year that MOST guys put into their cars in FOUR years.

It's not just physical work either... a large percentage is mental.

There are mental hurdles to jump when you build ANY car to that degree...

When you realize that... you can begin to jump them yourself.

Sam.

p.s. Sorry for the bad grammer http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif ...and speling

[zonkola]

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the guy does nice work. no better no worse than other builders of show quality cars. but is gooch just building the guy up to get extra's for his project?


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Yep, you've nailed it: It's a big conspiracy. I hear the Templars and D.B. Cooper are involved...

[rikaguilera]

The car is nice, no doubt about it, and the fact that somebody built the car in his garage with little to no help just gains my respect for that individual (Rudy). Personally, I don't care for 32's. Tired of them actually. I have always seen them as nice, but not the fanatical "have to have" that others seem place on them. Just my opinion, but the gas tank on a 32 has always looked like a pimple on the face of a beautiful girl to me. Just my opinion though. This car is done right, done by a craftsmen, and is very nice. Too bad it is a 32 though..
Rik

[34Fordtk]

First this is a great looking car,Rudy is an insperation to me and others.I dont give a flying fuck who had deep enough pockets to buy it,Billy Gibbons is nobody I know. Cheap ...I dont know Rudy or Paul(Gooch) but who are you or anyone else on this board to question his/there motives.He just posted pics of his friends car for EVERYONE to enjoy! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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the guy does nice work. no better no worse than other builders of show quality cars. but is gooch just building the guy up to get extra's for his project?


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Yep, you've nailed it: It's a big conspiracy. I hear the Templars and D.B. Cooper are involved...

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I heard the Sangreal is hidden in the firewall http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[OGNC]

You computer jockeys can gripe all you want, but you know what Rudy is doing while you are on the computer complaining about a car that is perfect. He's building another one in his garage. Maybe you should try it sometime...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Anyone have any idea what paint he used on the block?? that copper color looks slick

[zibo]

Another thing that separates some hot rodders is the ability to build, but also the ability to sell.
Most of us know that there is a joy in building, and a joy in driving.
To me there is no joy in buying, a completed project anyway,
and there really is no joy in paying someone to do work for me.


<font color="blue"> On an investment argument,
if he had bought an ARDUN setup for 15,000
and some magnesium halibrands, for 5000,
would he have gotten 350,000 like the so-cal/shine '32?</font>

travis aka zibo

[Kilroy]

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You computer jockeys can gripe all you want, but you know what Rudy is doing while you are on the computer complaining about a car that is perfect. He's building another one in his garage. Maybe you should try it sometime...

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What about the computer jockeys that are geneflucting on what a master....
Craftsman he is or what an astoundingly perfect roadster he built? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Morrisman]

Another fuckin' 32????????

Like yeah, it's nice, I'd love it myself, but when are people gonna get bored of doing the same car over and over and over and over and over..............

[NealinCA]

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Another fuckin' beautiful woman?????

Like yeah, it's nice, I'd love it myself, but when are people gonna get bored of doing the same beautiful woman over and over and over and over and over..............

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Kinda the same argument? Maybe that is why I am building a 32. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I can only hope to get that kind of quality out of the junk I am building..but I am gonna try. I look at my neighbor's Dearborn winning 31 Lincoln roadster for inspiration. Now that is an amazing car!

Neal

[antichrysler]

Kilroy said everything I was thinking.

That car doesn't inspire, it was inspired by others that have done that same car a hundred times before.

That doesn't mean it's not a nice car. It's nice like the thousands of perfect two toned formula-followed 57' chevy's parked in prestine betty boop/elvis/marilyn shrined garages.

I do know that if that car was a '57 chevy of the same quality you would all just yawn and trash it.

Quality never goes out of style, but Quality alone doesn't make a car a true work of ART.

For example, Bleed's roadster is a work of art, and I would rather have Bleed's roadster over this roadster any day. Even though Bleed's quality isn't the same.

[haring]

If anyone here has a problem with '32s, then there is something seriously wrong in the cosmos.

[Morrisman]

Antichrysler, is that cat really tearing the eyes out of the kiddie in your avatar, or was it just a play 'attack' http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Big A]

I am in awe of Rudy's talent and workmanship. The fact that he is reported to be a nice guy and not egotistical is a bonus. I doubt there is anyone on the HAMB that could find fault without resorting to pettiness.

" When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt."
— Henry J. Kaiser

But I have to admit that I looked at that car and didn't get too excited. I think it is so perfect, so spot-on, so faultless that it is also kind of lifeless, and yes, it seems like many other spot-on big dollar 32s.

I'm not sure I'm making sense.

Cars like that are just so far out of reach to people like me that I can't get excited about them anymore, and although I agree with Sam's rationale that this should inspire us to do better work and build better cars, I also think that for tire-kickers like me it actually has the opposite effect. It actually makes us realize how far in over our heads we are, or how much of this is actually just a dream that is unachievable, for whatever reason (mostly other priorities, not anything more earth-shattering).

"The great is the enemy of the good"
— Voltaire

As for 32's being overdone, I think that statement is subjective and short-sighted. Jumping off the bandwagon is just as dumb as jumping on in the first place. This isn't about trends, it's about the love of traditional hot rodding and cars and workmanship... not money, not popularity, not keeping up with the Jones'.

That car is so nice for so many reasons... I hope Mr. Gibbons drives the snot out of it. It'll be even nicer with a few stone chips. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Smokin Joe]

What a sad bunch!

You could open any rod mag from the early 50's to today and insert that car. It would fit right in. If that isn't history, I don't know what is. That car and Bluey are the two best cars to come along since Spencer's deuce. You dweebs think it's a restoration without soul. I think it's masterfully true to it's own roots and soul. That's as traditional as it gets folks. Built by a guy who understands and who has mastered the skills needed to do it right. Crawl back to your rusty V-Dubs and rotted 6 cyl 4 door wagons. Rattle can your pintos and rattle trap rpu's. Stick moon disks on your PT Cruisers. You are not worthy... Yet!

Don't bother replying, I don't give a shit! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[FLAT-TOP BOB]

what a nice car! wish i could wear it out over the next 25 years. then all the young dudes would be pissed cause it's not for sale, going to redo it some day!

[hatch]

I like VW's...does Billy Gibbons like VW's???

[El Rudy]

Glad you guys like it..................

[Smokin Joe]

Pretty good intro there Rudy...
Welcome aboard...http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Kilroy]

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Don't bother replying, I don't give a shit!

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What a silly-assed reply to a discussion forum...

Sorry you don't get to take your ball and go home.

My point is that I think had it been a rod from the 50's it would have more personality. Like Bluey does.

Do you really think that Bluey and Gibbons' '32 are the best cars since Spencer's? Really?

I doubt even Mike or Rudy would think that.

That's exactly my point about this car. Nice as it is, it doesn't deserve that ammount of hype. It's unfair (idiotic?) to immediately say it whipes out over 30 years (when was Spencer's roadster finished in it's road race incarnation?) of innovative Hot Rodding. It's a bitchin' 32 roadster, but come on.

[LIMEY]

Rudy i was going to say something nice about you....but seeing as you may be reading this i'll shut the fuck up http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Congrats on the sale &amp; thanks for showing us limeys around....&amp; i still think your wifes A kicks ass!
After we left you i took a look at that roadster body you mentioned &amp; almost had a weak moment &amp; threw it in the truck......it sure was a good deal.
Kev.

[slamchop]

Rudys cars are put together by some German engineer http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif....and Rudy I still have'nt forgot about the brakes http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[FoMoCo_MoFo]

if you havent seen the car in person, dont comment on it.. it's the shit.

and as far as being another 32, it's one of the few all of them should be judged by...

[Travis]

Fuckin A, Rudy.

And Mister Gibbons is a nice guy too. Was absolutely courteous to a nobody like me and my buddy Marc at Paso. Said his lady loved the 59, so that was good for my ego! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

And yeah... shut your mouths and get back into the garage and when you build something as nice as Rudy's then you can come in here and bitch and moan and pull your tampon out of your ass.

I'm going now back to my cave.

Travis

[Killer]

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Glad you guys like it..................

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Bout fuckin time.

Did MIA haveto do it for you?!?!?!!

Your still a fag.

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[**DONOTDELETE**]

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the guy does nice work. no better no worse than other builders of show quality cars. but is gooch just building the guy up to get extra's for his project?


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was it that obvious?

For the record, everything on Rudy's car is real 32. He had a five window and 3 window body to use but built a Brookville roadster for time reasons. This post has been very well behaved. Thank you all.

Yes, mine will be the next for you to pick apart. However, Rudy wont make it easy for you.


oh, Rudy doesnt post here and cant really use a computer very well. He does read this stuff and I'm sure he is embarrassed about all of this.

[34Fordtk]

So El Rudy is not ...Rudy????

[**DONOTDELETE**]

no, sorry. He cant use a computer and would never get into a pushing match about his cars. Ever. He is already down the road.

[34Fordtk]

Coool,thanks for that bit of info and again a BIG THANKS for posting the pics of the car...both times!

[Levis Classic]

It a great rod - what a bunch of drama queens!

[El Rudy]

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no, sorry. He cant use a computer and would never get into a pushing match about his cars. Ever. He is already down the road.

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are you sure about that Paulito? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[choprods]

WELL......COME RUDY/Nice to hear from you after seeing your NICE work..........we may want to pump you for information later..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif..did ya do an Intro -I missed it I guess.

[=mike=]

I have fond memories from Paso Robles many years ago , of a black primered chopped mercury with switches , dragging orange cones around under the car . There were a bunch of crazy mexicans hanging out the windows and yelling " where are the white women ! ! ! " Saddly , I believe you were asked to leave by some guy in a pink bowling shirt .

[ESnacky6]

=mike=...
ya got any pictures of that Merc layin' around..???

Anybody..??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Morrisman]

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And yeah... shut your mouths and get back into the garage and when you build something as nice as Rudy's then you can come in here and bitch and moan and pull your tampon out of your ass.


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Hey, gently gently, I thought this was the USA, where everybody is allowed to execise the right to free speech. If a guy don't like a car it is the Hamb rule he is allowed and encouraged to abuse the holy shit out of it. So nobody can complain if a guy expesses his own opinion of the 32? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Fat Hack]

Okay, OKAY...so there's nothing stellar, or explosively spectacular about that 32 to set it apart from the crowd...it's not some innovative new interpretation dripping with over-the-top styles and trends, and it doesn't have your beloved chicks painted on the doors!

It's STILL a beautiful and exceptional car that showcases the talents of one seriously capable hot rodder who turns out quality work from his humble home shop. It wasn't pieced together by a crew of dimwits as the cameras rolled for national TV under the 'direction' of some loud-mouthed, egotistical prick...it was lovingly and carefully built from the ground up by one dedicated rodder who has given the World one more incredible flathead powered 32 roadster hot rod to enjoy. We're better off for it!

I was fortunate enough to see "Rudy's Truck" in person last Summer down in Indy, and I spent a good deal of time going over it from every angle. There is SO much more to this man's work than the silly painting on the doors that everyone cried over after the new owner repainted them...the truck is cool, built with an obvious goal and direction in mind, and looked to be a quality job...not just some hacked together deathtrap with cartoon styling built to 'push the envelope'.

Yeah, so this roadster is "just another 32"...it's black, it's got a hopped flattie, and it displays incredible attention to detail. Sure, I'm one who digs seeing new and different ideas...but when a car comes along that's this nice inside and out...especially one built by someone like Rudy...it makes me happy to see the 'little guy' getting the attention and recognition he deserves. Billy could buy any car he wanted from any builder in the world...yet he knew a good thing when he saw it and elected to buy Rudy's.

It's a Good Day in the World when one hot rodder builds a Deuce that fine...and another more famous one steps up to buy it. This will certainly lead to magazine features and accolades for Rudy. The 'little guy' wins...and yet, still some people find fault with that?

[randy]

fucking clean. 'nuff said.

-r

[El Caballo]

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Rudys a fag.


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So when can he and the rest of the Fab Five come and work on my car? That is a tastefully done hot rod.

[A32Flathead]

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Glad you guys like it..................

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I love it, 32Limey showed me some of the pictures he shot at your place before the car 'broke cover' I was really impressed....

Keep up the great work

Dave

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[Broman]

Just another 32......

So I am guessing you don't dig Harleys either.

I guess that's all okay, but do you want him to park next to you at a cruise-in or car show?


I'm not saying that this is the best 32 ever built or anything like that. I just think is retarded to bag on it - there is nothing to bitch about. But leave it to this board to find a way. When I first saw this post I thought it would be a stroke-fest for Rudy. The car is nice and it is (arguably) the most popular body of the car hobby. After all of these years and the thousands of 32s that have been built - this one can stand up next to any. It isn't the best ever but even if it is in the top 100 that is impressive to me.

I don't know how we get to the point were we are bitching about cars that are (for all intents and purposes) flawless, but here we are. Maybe it is just because Gooch has been so excited about it. Maybe it builds your expectations so high that you were somehow let down. But I can't blame him, if my Buick was sitting in Rudy's garage right now and this thing rolled out I'd be pumped too.

[modernbeat]

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I like VW's...does Billy Gibbons like VW's??

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As a matter of fact, he does have a few. Remember this one? Circa 1987. And for the record, he drives around Houston in either his dumpy old Ford Festiva or a late model Escalade that has NOT been pimped.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/90750.jpg

[3 Deuces]

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It is nice.
It belongs to the REV Billy G
It is a copy of hundreds of other 32's to preceed it.

Hank Negley's 32 for 1

I like it.
I need a roadster to add to my gargage.


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[HotrodVon]

Built, bought, sold...I don't care....That is One nice Hot rod! period. Rudy did an OUTSTANDING job on that deuce. Billy bought a very nice piece. I'm glad to see a nice hot rod that a regular guy who worked his ass off go to a guy that LIVES and understands Hot Rods and customs.

I had someone want to buy my roadster a few months ago...he wanted me to put disc brakes on it and an automatic....wrong guy for my roadster no matter how much he was willing to pay...

[296 V8]

I like it, what I can see of it on here.

If I had the parts or cash id build one just (basically) like it.

My bottom line for what its worth is. Nobody has to like my car but me. if someone else likes it, that's a bonus.

Greg

[slammed]

Yeah! What Fat Hack said....yeah, that's the ticket! When I do not care for a car or person, I move on, I do not linger. Hit the gym, go for a jog. Or just turn a wrench. "only a '32" ......but ah like it, like it, yes ah do!

[RileyRacing]

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You computer jockeys can gripe all you want, but you know what Rudy is doing while you are on the computer complaining about a car that is perfect. He's building another one in his garage. Maybe you should try it sometime...

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I wish we could have longer signature lines. That one is a good one.
Beautiful car. Gives me the willys cause I have a wife and 2 kids and whine about having no time too. Guess I got nothing to whine about. Better get to work. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Jay

[Mike]

I like Billy Gibbons' "Mrs. Miller/sea urchin hat".

[Germ]

FAGS,
Hey maybe it will make OLD SKOOOLLZZZ RODZZZ,(tm) with some FAT , two chinned, prison tattooed RED head bitch standing next to SHOPPING CART GRILL and PABST can COIL covers,,,,
Of course in order to be CULTURE CORRECT,
some FAT KEYBOARD NAZI with a 60's 4 door or a set of "A" rails would HAVE to discuss a car in SUCH PICK APART FASHION....

truth is,
Your HOMOS with PIN STRIPES on your RATTLE CAN SHIT,
and RUDY is actually building something that DOESNT resemble the FUCKING TRASH CAN that your COLLECTING parts for...........
Thats WHY Gibbons shelled out the CASH..

Call the PATINA POLICE, and GET THE rolls and PLEATS(tm)DICK CUFFS,,
cause Rudy ACTUALLY used a CORRECT WINSHIELD!!!


GERMETHLAB

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Thanks Jack- I needed that!

[The Anarkist]

Well, This is my first post on this site and I can say I really enjoyed this thread. Think I'm gonna like it here.
Personnally I think Gibbons is the real thing and like this one too. Hell, I don't have ANYTHING on the road right now so I'd be the LAST one to complain!!
At least he's not yet another "celebrity" who goes on about his "fleet" of Ferrari's and BMW's that take no thought at all to buy. (Just money!!)
I like when I see someone supporting "the Hobby" as we have enough people against us. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Anyways, nice car owned by a nice guy. Hell, even up here in the great white north we hear how nice a guy Billy is.

[Germ]

maybe if RUDY used TRACTOR parts and SHEET METAL firewalls,, The masses would upgrade his ROCKABILITY(tm)on a KING PINS(tm)DADDIO level.....

I bet he's just not in the COOL enough car club to be labeled a "REAL BUILDER"......

I guess a TRUE JEANS FAG would have SPRAYED it with a VACUUM cleaner and HOUSE PAINT,,,,,

Anybody have a spare PATINA covered CAT BOX I can BUY,, I'm going to BLANKET the bottom with COOP stickers so my CAT, LONDON can shit on something SCENESTER RELATED

GERMANWARFARE

[thirtytwo]

i saw that car in person it was flawless..... absolutely beautiful.......but it used all the correct bolt-together parts.....which is probely why rudy didnt care for it so much....if you get all nice orig parts those cars pretty much bolt together... not much thinking involved rudy probely wasnt able to get as creative as he wanted..

that car was a period car done brizio quality.... its still a jalopy but just spotless.... that car shows what attention to detail and lots of polishing can accomplish....

at one time that car is exaclty what i wanted my roadster to be ...but i dont think i would enjoy it

then i realised that when i finally got to see doane spencers car in person i was pissed that bruce myer restored it ... cause i never got to see what a real craftsman back in 1950 could accomplish in his garage trying to built a car to race in mexico. i think its kinda sad we dont get to see what was really done on the historical cars its almost loss of history

there is a point when something does become sterile...

that car was pefect in everyway maybe too much so?

when my coupe was in chalky dp primer everyone liked it they would check it out , try to buy it , and ask what color i was gonna paint it ,ect. ect. now that its painted most people could careless, same thing going on maybe??? i think as a gerenral rule people are attracted to something unfinished just like shiny stuff... just differnt reasons

[=mike=]

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=mike=...
ya got any pictures of that Merc layin' around..???

Anybody..??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif


I do have pictures , but I am at work now and I have to find them at home . . . I'll hook those up for you later http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif




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[296 V8]

then i realised that when i finally got to see doane spencers car in person i was pissed that bruce myer restored it ... cause i never got to see what a real craftsman back in 1950 could accomplish in his garage trying to built a car to race in mexico. i think its kinda sad we dont get to see what was really done on the historical cars its almost loss of history



32
I'm not trying to start any shit or change the subject, but I don't think Myer had much of a choice. Two other guys had it before him.

Lynn Wineland 58 or 9 to 68 or 9. Worked on it, never got on the road.
Neal East 68 or 9 to 95. Put it back on the road with a flathead

The Doane Spencer Roadster is my all-time favorite. I got to see it for the first time at the Oakland museum. The thing just blew my fucking mind. If I ever win the Ca lottery Bruce Myer will be a LOT richer.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gifGreg

[fab32]

Nice car. Thanks Rudy.

[zman]

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Well, This is my first post on this site and I can say I really enjoyed this thread. Think I'm gonna like it here.


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How about an intro? Might do you some good to get it all out..

[klazurfer]

I don`t care much about this car .. It is one of those cars that are built to sell ..NO Passion involved , Just know how &amp; Skills .. Rudy is OBVIOUSLY a GREAT Craftsman , so when he decides to build a keepr` , Then, PLEASE Let us see it , because it will probably be Most EXCELLENT !!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[DrJ]

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I don`t care much about this car .. It is one of those cars that are built to sell ..NO Passion involved , Just know how &amp; Skills .. Rudy is OBVIOUSLY a GREAT Craftsman , so when he decides to build a keepr` , Then, PLEASE Let us see it , because it will probably be Most EXCELLENT !!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Rudy is a builder, an artist, a creator.
He probably wouldn't keep a "keeper" even if it was one, because his interest is in the BUILDING, not the keeping.
I've talked to guys who build race cars and especially race boats, and asked them if they drive their cars or boats. one boat builder and tuner replied,
"whadaya think, I'm crazy? I hire a guy to drive... someone who gets off on that stuff."
So there's different aspects and parts of this hobby that different people choose to take part in. It wouldn't work the way it does if there weren't builders, and parts suppliers and buyers, curators" if you want to call them that to keep the "art" safe after it's done. The Billy Gibbons's parts are necessary to the Rudy's parts so thye ccan have the wherewithall to keep making the cars.

[klazurfer]

DRJ .. I`m not to good at this ... I could easly have exsplained my thoughts about this topic if I could have done it in Norwegian language . I have used more than 20 years to put together the parts-pile that finaly will be MY Hot rod. Every one of my ALL-Time favorite parts are in-house. I take for granted that Rudy has a simmilar parts-pile &amp; ideas that some day will accumulate into "Rudys` Hot Rod" , and with the skills he have , I can`t wait too see it ... Did that make more sense .. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[**DONOTDELETE**]

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=mike=...
ya got any pictures of that Merc layin' around..???

Anybody..??? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif


I do have pictures , but I am at work now and I have to find them at home . . . I'll hook those up for you later http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif




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this is a shot of the Merc from the Deadendcruisers site. Another guy owned it when this shot was taken. Rudy did get banned for life from Paso. no shit. I guess they just thought it was someone else when he came in the truck.

[34Fordtk]

Who got banned from Paso,the guy who owned it first or Rudy http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Germ]

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Who got banned from Paso,the guy who owned it first or Rudy http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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lukeJIVEtalker, got banned from PASO, for dressing up like ALEX Shifter....

OLD SKOOL RODZ has a FEATURE coming on this SCENE BREAKING news NEWS

[The Anarkist]

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Well, This is my first post on this site and I can say I really enjoyed this thread. Think I'm gonna like it here.


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How about an intro? Might do you some good to get it all out..

[/ QUOTE ]
Um, where do I do that? (Stupid question?)

[bufordtjustice]

You do it right in the Hokey Ass Message Board.....make a Post titled intro or something of that sort and tell who you are what you drive what you like, all kinds of crap about you that we might want to know so we can get a feel of you. Also, fill out your profile with the pertinent information.

Greg

[roadstar]

Lets me say here that car is absolutly beautiful. So correct it hurts, and detail that is evident from pics without even having to see it in person.

I'm very impressed and have a new respect for the guy(Rudy) as a builder.

It's not the first car like that to be built and it won't be the last on either.

It is a car that showcases one mans talent and he deserves the utmost respect for that and that alone in my opinion.

Well done Rudy, I hope to meet you some day.

[DrJ]

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DRJ .. I`m not to good at this ... I could easly have exsplained my thoughts about this topic if I could have done it in Norwegian language . I have used more than 20 years to put together the parts-pile that finaly will be MY Hot rod. Every one of my ALL-Time favorite parts are in-house. I take for granted that Rudy has a simmilar parts-pile &amp; ideas that some day will accumulate into "Rudys` Hot Rod" , and with the skills he have , I can`t wait too see it ... Did that make more sense .. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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You mean the "Allright you guys, back off, I built it for me and I'm keeping this one for ME" car?
Yep... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[thirtytwo]

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then i realised that when i finally got to see doane spencers car in person i was pissed that bruce myer restored it ... cause i never got to see what a real craftsman back in 1950 could accomplish in his garage trying to built a car to race in mexico. i think its kinda sad we dont get to see what was really done on the historical cars its almost loss of history



32
I'm not trying to start any shit or change the subject, but I don't think Myer had much of a choice. Two other guys had it before him.

Lynn Wineland 58 or 9 to 68 or 9. Worked on it, never got on the road.
Neal East 68 or 9 to 95. Put it back on the road with a flathead

The Doane Spencer Roadster is my all-time favorite. I got to see it for the first time at the Oakland museum. The thing just blew my fucking mind. If I ever win the Ca lottery Bruce Myer will be a LOT richer.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gifGreg

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no offense taken i understand that doane never got it back on the road but i was refering to theese historical cars that have been redone super smooth, i was using the spencer car as an example because i feel from the thought that went into that car it was probely done to the best of his ability and im sure everything was super clean, but im sure it wasnt as super smooth as it is now, i would like to see it as a superclean garage built 50s car not a super clean so-cal speedshop car i think its differnt things...i dont realy know how to put into word what im trying to say, but i think hot rods have a certain soul and when all the bumps get smoothed out you kinda loose something...i cant explain ...ill give up ...i think you know what im trying to say though

[Germ]

the best roadster ever is the 40 ford in florida with the cover on the back of the roof that extends to the frame rails,,,
the japs are going CRAZY

[ESnacky6]

Bitchin'..... Thanks..!!

[trey]

man, thats a sweet looking 32. i like it, id drive the wheels off it.

people want to hate the car because its a nice 32. so busy trying to be different, while being the same as the other deuce haters. id build it. im building what i am because its all i can afford right now. but when its done, maybe ill sell it, and start on a 32??

trey

[Roothawg]

Nice car. Maybe it will raise the bar for some.

This is the most Germ has posted in 2 months.....

[james]

Wait a minute....did someone say Billy drives a festiva most of the time? I want a pic of THAT!



Oh yeah, nice 32'