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av8
10-02-2003, 01:02 AM
I'm finally getting to spend some time with my new F-1 after a bout of stomach flu stole a few days from me, and I'm loving this old puppy more and more!

The 8BA is a sweet runner, and dead smooth -- just as it should be for 21K miles. It's surprising how eagerly the little 239-incher accelerates the 3200-pound pickup up to highway speed. The rear axle ratio is 3.92:1 but the rear tires are a tallish 29.5-inch light truck radial installed by the previous owner. Compare that to about 27-inch diameter for the original 6.00 x 16 and it works out to an effective increase of final-drive ratio to something in the mid 3's -- an all-around nice compromise of acceleration and cruise. It gets to Interstate speed quickly and runs there without breaking a sweat. Vern Tardel uncovered some good info on the truck's life; it was purchased new and remained for most of its life in the hands of a fellow who ran a small automotive service and repair business in west county. It served as personal transport, shuttle bus, and parts chaser, which explains how it survived in our largely ag area. The source Tardel talked to said the guy was a meticulous mechanic with a reputation for doing excellent work -- and maintaining his truck in top shape.

The optional "granny-low" four-speed transmission is a big surprise. With nary a synchro in sight, this old stump puller upshifts from second to third, and third to fourth just as slick as can be, just so long as I take the time to let it calm down with a three-count between shifts. In return for my patience the trans provides ratio spacing that's as least as good as that of a Lincoln-Zephyr three-speed gearset!

One of my first thoughts upon learning that the truck had a HD four-speed was that it would have to be replaced early on with a more suitable transmission, perhaps a TREMEC overdrive four-speed. After living with the old cog-box for even a time that's much too short for me to develop any real skills having to do with it's operation, it's already shown me that its attributes far outweigh its shortcomings. And it's convinced me that it's well worth my time to learn to become proficient in its operation. Who'd have thought . . . ?

The paint rubout has gone well, especially so after I switched from good old '50s quick-cleaner Turtlewax to a jug of 3M One Step I was given a couple of years ago when I was doing a story on 3M's latest system of finishing chems. The One Step was put together and packaged with an eye to moving 3M paint-finishing products into the hobbyist market, but this was the first time I had occasion to give it a try. I gotta tell ya that this stuff is the absolute cats-ass for taking care of light and medium oxidation! The kicker is that it leaves a non-oily finish that's reminiscent of 3M Imperial Hand Glaze -- my all-time favorite quick tidy-up paint cleaner. Meguiar's and Mother's haven't a clue . . .

The beauty part of starting with a bitchin' old truck like this one is that I don't have to sweat and fret making it a viable driver. It's already that, and then some. Particularly nice for graybeards like myself is remembering that this is what a typical SoCal '48 F-1 pickup was like in the mid and late '50s. My imagination is free to focus on enhancements to make it special and unique -- features and details to make it my own special hot-rod truck.

My sweet old/new F-1 is scheduled for some neat upgrades in the months ahead, and I plan to share them here, magazine fashion. Unlike the print mags, which flourish in a perfect world where hot rods don't break and all changes and modifications turn out perfectly, I'll share the aw-shits and what-the-fuks that are inevitable components of hot rodding.

For now, here are a couple of pics of the results of several hours of paint cleaning with the good 3M stuff . . .

av8
10-02-2003, 01:10 AM
. . . and another

manyolcars
10-02-2003, 01:13 AM
It looks like new paint.

Shiva69
10-02-2003, 01:18 AM
Great post av8 thanks

keep em coming...

i wanna see more... i have always loved that body style

Garth

NealinCA
10-02-2003, 01:21 AM
But you ruined the patina http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

It looks great. I will have to send these pics to my dad. He couldn't believe how it looked when you showed the first pics.

That is a beatiful truck as is, I am curious to see it's progression.

Thanks for the update.

Neal...inCA

av8
10-02-2003, 01:26 AM
The digicam is rather kind. The old repaint has the normal "problems" common to an old dealership respray, but it does look rather decent.

I don't plan on a repaint. The speed shop graphics will be applied to the existing finish.

yorgatron
10-02-2003, 02:35 AM
when you start with something that good all it needs is maintenance.and some speed shop graphics on the door.

=mike=
10-02-2003, 05:50 AM
you should buff through it in places to make it look old . . . uh , no nevermind . . . http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

a/fxcomet
10-02-2003, 05:57 AM
That is so cool.

You run mufflers with the stacks, right?

I think I may have to try some of those 3M products. Havent heard anything but good things about them.

a/fxcomet
10-02-2003, 05:58 AM
Did you polish it by hand?

Mart
10-02-2003, 06:20 AM
Ho-Lee Shit, Mike that looks good.
Mike, I'll serialise your progress reports on my site, if you agree, once they fall off the end of the HAMB. Bout time I added something to my pages.
Mart.

hatch
10-02-2003, 07:39 AM
The truck looks fantastic!...Everyone should visit michigan and see what WE have to work with. I saw a late seventies olds yesterday with a rust hole in the CENTER of the drivers door. No kidding, it was 6 inches in diameter. We have cars in junk yards that the frames are rusted in half. Seeing your truck makes me want to move back to a dry climate, just so I could actually SEE something nice once and awhile. Lately the cruise nites around here have been rusty sixties cars with raised white letter radials and chrome wagon wheels....thanks for the pics!!!(sorry about the rant) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

av8
10-02-2003, 09:43 AM
I po;ished it by hand (no buffer) with 3M One Step.

Mart -- I'd be honored to have the truck appear on your site. I'm budgeting for one major change each month, so it's going to be about as interesting as watching paint dry . . .

autocol
10-02-2003, 09:56 AM
two things mike. one, i can't believe that's the same truck, it looks sweet! two, if the majority of us managed to complete "one major change each month", the HAMB would either be jam-packed with progress reports as we all showed off the fruits of our labour, or devoid of any activity because we're all out in the shed...

one o' the two...

nice truck.

brjr51
10-02-2003, 10:55 AM
She's lookin' real good Mike. I did the same buffin' routine on my original paint 50 Chevy and the results were better than I hoped.

Glad to hear you're going to keep the original tranny. The old gal survived this long without being modified a lot so it's good to see you won't be making that change. When I first bought my 51 pickup 20 years ago,I had visions of a smallblock,auto,IFS.,etc. The more I drove it,the more I came to appreciate the originality of it all,so I've kept the stock drive-train with just dual carbs,headers,and some period dress-up items. Be kind to her, I'm jealous!

50Fraud
10-02-2003, 11:13 AM
Just excellent. It's already the best-looking F-1 I can recall seeing, even bone stock. Are plated bumpers on your list?

40StudeDude
10-02-2003, 11:27 AM
Do you know if that 3m One step is still avaialble...that's a fantastic shine on that old truk for an original paint.
R-

C9
10-02-2003, 12:32 PM
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3M Imperial Hand Glaze

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I've used this with success as well.
Still have a half bottle.
Did they quit making it?

I finally connected with my friend - after missing him 4 times at his machine shop.
He's retired and his hours are his own and he does other things besides the machine shop.

Anyway, I caught up with him last Saturday and like you'd figure didn't have the camera with me.
Went back Sunday and took these pics.

What I know of the history on this truck is that he's owned it for a long time and may have bought it new, but I forgot to ask about that.
It was used on a citrus ranch and also to help run a walnut orchard as well as drag home hot rod parts now and then.
The bed is quite good for the use it's seen.
Used, but not abused.
In fact, the truck overall is quite good and I don't think it's ever been dented.

It has a fairly good black paint job on it, but it's been sitting outside and has gotten dusty.
Like Mikes truck, it's a good one.

I like the F1's as well, used to drive a flat 6 powered one - the one shown here is also flat 6 - to deliver car parts on my very first for-real job.
16 years old, working in a parts house for the summer and driving my 6 year old 50 Ford 2 door sedan that dad bought new.
My first car, first job and a few other firsts in there as well.

38Chevy4door
10-02-2003, 12:36 PM
That thing looked good to start with, but, DANG...looks better than new!!!

Look forward to living vicariously through your updates...I'd never trust myself to do anything besides maintain and drive it...I'd be afraid I'd break it!

Steve

C9
10-02-2003, 12:36 PM
Here's an interior shot.

It's a touch washed out because I lightened it up a bit so as to show some detail.
The upholstery is very nice saddle tan color.
It has a nice black headliner as well.

C9
10-02-2003, 12:43 PM
The slot mags are the only non-stock items on this truck.
In fact, he has another one in the shop, body work and paint done, flatty V8 with 4" crank almost done.
It's been covered up and put aside for a while so the main focus can be on the shop and the new lathe.
A Monarch 24" x 96" I believe.
He has another Monarch, about a 12" x 24" and it's the smoothest running lathe I ever heard.

Anyhoo, here's a shot of the rear wheel/tire combo.
I'm guessing the wheel is about 7" wide.
The tire is the same one I run on my 32.
A BFG 285-70R/15.
29 1/2" tall.
It works for him, but he thinks it's a little high geared and will change to a shorter tire later.
More than likely - the truck is a three speed - the diff is a bit higher than the one in Mikes 4 speed.

Like Mike, I sure would like to take one of these home with me.

daign
10-02-2003, 12:56 PM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/image_uploads/164459-01F12a.jpg http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/image_uploads/174661-0_0000000000F1a.jpg
I knew it'd clean up real nice, but WOW. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I think I may have to try some 3m products. Great truck.

SamIyam
10-02-2003, 01:00 PM
That looks most excellent Mike!

I can hardly wait for your monthly updates... a definate treat for all on the HAMB...

Thanks for sharing,
Sam.

zonkola
10-02-2003, 01:35 PM
Man, that's sweet. Personally, I'll take glossy, rubbed out original 'character marks' over untouched crusty patina any day of the week.

BTW, I did a Google search on 3M "one step" (http://tinyurl.com/ph23) and found a handful of online retailers that sell that stuff...

hotrodladycrusr
10-02-2003, 02:11 PM
WOW, what a difference! Amazing what a great product and alittle elbow grease can accomplish. You and your truck should be in a 3M ad. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

4eva4banger
10-02-2003, 02:51 PM
Your truck looks fantastic Mike! Similar to that of Garth Hogans truck over here in NZ. Garth also owns the Downundertaker 34 Bonneville roadster with a supercharged flathead.

Rocky
10-02-2003, 05:05 PM
Wow! That looks like a new little F-1. The top is a little high, tho....

radarlover
10-02-2003, 07:20 PM
Whatta great truck you have! I sure do miss the old American Rodder days. Its good to be able to log on and read your work. Seems a little strange not takin it in the john with me though.

Dave

4eva4banger
10-02-2003, 07:36 PM
I can back that one up! I would read and still do read the old style American Rodder everywhere including the mens room!

Av8? Can you do some stuff on whats happening at Tardels?

FONZI
10-02-2003, 07:41 PM
that is truly a gem man!


FONZI

Rix2Six
10-02-2003, 09:11 PM
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Whatta great truck you have! I sure do miss the old American Rodder days. Its good to be able to log on and read your work. Seems a little strange not takin it in the john with me though.

Dave

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LapTop with a WiFi card and WiFi router! I read HAMB all over the house... including the john!

Tim
10-02-2003, 09:33 PM
hmmm looks like rockys got the hang of the photo shop busness now lol

av8
10-02-2003, 11:20 PM
Rocky -- That's headin' the wrong direction, although this truck will never be cut so long as it's mine.

I've been messing around with an idea for a tribute to Chuck Porter's F-1 that I vow to do, with Fuller's help, before I cash in, but all that's needed to get that one started in a sound cab; everything else will come from Fairlane Fiberglass or be hand-crafted (perimeter frame with XJ6 suspension, aluminum bed, etc.)

My new computer (should be done tomorrow) will allow me to run Photoshop and some serious draw programs, so I'll start to finalze the look of that truck. All I have at this point are rough sketches from my large "think" pad. Here are few that show the direction I'm headed with that particular project.

I've always envisioned this truck having an improved aspect ratio (body-to-turret), and retaining the character details that identify the design.

http://photo.starblvd.net/~AV8FORD/1-3-2.jpg

http://photo.starblvd.net/~AV8FORD/1-3-3.jpg

http://photo.starblvd.net/~AV8FORD/1-3-4.jpg

http://photo.starblvd.net/~AV8FORD/1-3-5.jpg

Shiva69
10-03-2003, 02:45 AM
nice drawing there...

i wish i could do that.
thanks again for showing us this awesome truck
Garth