View Full Version : Steering for a suicide front end, whats the best way to go?
modelAfan
10-01-2003, 10:48 PM
I'm getting ready to do a suicide front end on my model A coupe and was wondering if anyone had any wisdom as to the best way to do the steering? What steering box do most people use? Any pics, they always help.
thanks joe
yorgatron
10-02-2003, 02:51 AM
i have no idea.here's a BTTT for the morning crowd.
UKAde
10-02-2003, 03:10 AM
don't know if it's the best way but on the side drag link steering looks good, mine uses a steering box from an english 100e ford ,
and my car is right hand drive so i've been no help at all
but take a look at the pics
UKAde
Ted H
10-03-2003, 11:27 AM
Joe,
The Stode Special track T's use steering boxes from VW vans The pitman arm points up which puts the drag link about parralel with the split wish bones .This system works really well. You'll have to be carefull of interfence with the exhaust if you intend to run an exterior exhaust.
Ted H
Anderson
10-03-2003, 11:40 AM
What about the steering box from a '57 chevy?
porknbeaner
10-03-2003, 12:04 PM
The old standby is a box from a '56 F-100, and a draglink.
Another popular box is 40 Ford, but they are a little pricey, and more often than not pretty worn.
I've used the '56 truck box, with the original shaft a bunch.
The easy way to make a drag link is to get a piece of 1" mechanical tubing (not water pipe) and a pair of 3/4" spherical rod ends (lefts and rights). Cut the tubing to length and tap it. You want to end up with at least 75% of the threaded part of the rod end in the tube (when your adjusted). This will give you between 1/2" and 1" of adjustment. So you can be sure and hit it.
if it don't make you dirty it aint yours http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
porknbeaner
10-03-2003, 12:12 PM
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The old standby is a box from a '56 F-100, and a draglink.
Another popular box is 40 Ford, but they are a little pricey, and more often than not pretty worn.
I've used the '56 truck box, with the original shaft a bunch.
The easy way to make a drag link is to get a piece of 1" mechanical tubing (not water pipe) and a pair of 3/4" spherical rod ends (lefts and rights). Cut the tubing to length and tap it. You want to end up with at least 75% of the threaded part of the rod end in the tube (when your adjusted). This will give you between 1/2" and 1" of adjustment. So you can be sure and hit it.
if it don't make you dirty it aint yours http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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the wall thickness on that tubeing is .134 ooops http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
porknbeaner
10-03-2003, 02:02 PM
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don't know if it's the best way but on the side drag link steering looks good, mine uses a steering box from an english 100e ford ,
and my car is right hand drive so i've been no help at all
but take a look at the pics
UKAde
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sure ya have, just flip everything over. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
if it don't make ya dirty it aint yours. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
porknbeaner
10-03-2003, 02:13 PM
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don't know if it's the best way but on the side drag link steering looks good, mine uses a steering box from an english 100e ford ,
and my car is right hand drive so i've been no help at all
but take a look at the pics
UKAde
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sure ya have, just flip everything over. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
if it don't make ya dirty it aint yours. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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El Caballo
10-03-2003, 02:15 PM
I am going to use a draglink with a Corvair box, they are pretty cheap and with a light hotrod, do just fine. You will however have to reverse the box, but it ain't hard.
jdubbya
10-03-2003, 04:43 PM
My car has an early mustang box and it works great...I do not have any digital pics of this detail....sorry
modelAfan
10-04-2003, 02:15 AM
thanks for all the ideas guys, that gives me somewhere to start.
joe
UKAde
10-04-2003, 02:31 AM
thats strange seeing my car as a left hand drive,, took me a little time to work out what was wrong
i made a drag link be welding two bits of front wishbone together with a piece of 1/2 steel slotted in ,give a nice tapered look
the steering arm will be changed to get the drag link parrel to the road,
UKAde
Curly
10-04-2003, 08:46 AM
UKAde it is cool to see that Duct tape is not an American thing! Lets see...Radiator, steering column, gauges, gastank! Hmmm...death rods rule. I think you outdid me! If you are low budget I have seen it used to rechrome bumpers too! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Just kidding.
If it's supposed to move and don't...WD40
If it's not supposed to move and does...Duct Tape
UKAde
10-04-2003, 08:56 AM
i do hope it won't need quite that much tape on it when it's finaly finished
UKAde
Spooky
10-04-2003, 01:26 PM
Can a Vega box work as well? Or a '48 Ford F-5?
mk 1 landrover is always a good one it has the steering column on it too like a 50's f100 ford.........Mad Marq
I used a 30s GM box for my side steer. Mounted in the cowl to gain footroom. Here is a link to a recent post.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=167013&Forum=U BB1&Words=Cowl%20steering&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Se archpage=0&Limit=25&Old=3months&Main=158109&Search =true#Post167013
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