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kustumizer
07-02-2004, 12:40 AM
when you stripe?? medium reducer? Thanks N8

Peter Pan of Chicago
07-02-2004, 12:57 AM
Today was very humid here in Chi-Townland. I striped a 2004 IH Eagle and used 1Shots "High Temp Reducer". It kept things wet.

Usually I just use "Mineral Spirits". I hope this helps.

Joel http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
07-02-2004, 02:44 AM
mineral spirits..does the same thing as one shot reducer and half the price

kritz
07-02-2004, 03:04 AM
i normally just use naptha, it's cheap and seems to work alright.

i've been looking for something to use when it's nice and warm out to keep the one shot nice and slick..what are the advantages of the high temp reducer versus naptha???

fatluckys
07-02-2004, 03:09 AM
I take mine straight up with a margarita on the side. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
And sometimes mineral spirits, if the paint is too thick.
The margarita helps steady my shaky coffee hands and it gives me false confidence in my striping ability. It's really the most important part of my pinstriping routine.

BARNETT
07-02-2004, 03:18 AM
I use a screw driver or a popsicle stick. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

VM&P Naptha or mineral spirits.

unpunk01
07-02-2004, 07:00 AM
Spoonful of one shot...squirt of mineral spirits and a couple drops of 40wt motor oil. Sounds weird but the oil keeps it liquid in high temps and makes it pull better.
BE CAREFUL...increases drying time dramatically!

Jester
07-02-2004, 08:28 AM
no thinning, well sometimes mineral spirits, a cigarrett, 4 pabst blue ribbons (minimum) a dozen spectators (I'm sick in the head)and a partride family on the radio http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Peter Pan of Chicago
07-02-2004, 09:18 AM
Kritz: I used Naphtha(Sunnyside brand) for years and then swithced to Mineral Spirits. Naptha tends to evaporate too quickly and that neccesetates more thinning. The paint then breaks down. 1Shot "High Temp" reducer seems to keep the paint wetter, longer than Mineral Spirits in extreme humidty. Either way I hate working on humid days. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


Unpunk01: With the 40wt, does your paint ever dry? To keep the paint smooth and promote gloss, I think adding "Edge" would be better.

Joel http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

kustumizer
07-02-2004, 11:02 AM
is any brand of mineral spirits good to use?? Thanxs N8

**DONOTDELETE**
07-02-2004, 11:30 AM
i get Kleen-Strip from home depot

just steve
07-02-2004, 11:47 AM
Vodka, with a beer chaser.

Margaritas are too sweet.

Steve.

lownslow
07-02-2004, 11:52 AM
use hardner too if it's getting cleared over.......

kustumizer
07-02-2004, 11:55 AM
ok thanxs for the tips!! Do you guys mix it on a peice of paper or in like a little dixie cup? if you mix it in a cup how much mineral spirits should you put in it?? Thanxs N8

HOTRODPRIMER
07-02-2004, 12:59 PM
Dixie cups are waxed,,,the thinners can desolve the wax and screw up some of the colors. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Around here in the sunny South the ol' timmers use a couple drops kerosene when the weather heats up makes the one shot flow,,,,,HRP

rjb
07-02-2004, 01:24 PM
I usually just dip the brush in thinner every once in awhile and work it into the paint on the pallette. this eliminates the need for a cup to mix the paint in. If you can find or buy an empty pint/halfpint can, they are nice fer storing your choice of thinner.

InjectorTim
07-02-2004, 01:32 PM
I work right out of the can and onto my pallete, don't add your thinner till you are ready to pallete the brush. I old magazines for my pallete.

BARNETT
07-02-2004, 01:54 PM
At the risk of sounding like a know-it-all...adding oil to the paint is not a good idea. An oil free surface is what you want. Oil won't let the paint dry properly and can cause adhesion problems. Unpunk01, I'm surprised you've gotten away with it so far! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif PPoC is right...Edge will work if you want to enhance the flow of the paint. I tend to try to add as few things as possible, though.
I use un-waxed,2oz. Dixie cups for my paint when I'm lettering and striping, but I palette it, from the Dixie cup, onto a magazine when I'm striping.
Good Luck!
Dan

Johnny Ace
07-02-2004, 02:04 PM
Barnett also drinks LOTS of coffee....so listen to his advice! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
We use Turpenoid......thin with it AND clean in between color changes...final brush cleanout with spirits,though, and clean motor oil....

Unkl Ian
07-02-2004, 02:27 PM
1-Shot is around $10 for a 8 oz can,
why am I going to thin it with something that is $5 a gallon ?
If the customer is paying over $150 an hour,
I think I can afford a couple dollars extra to get the proper reducer,
so the job will last as long as possible.
1-Shot High Temperature Reducer,or Chromatic Edge,will reduce the paint enough
without risking durability.
If it's stinking hot and windy,Smith's Creame is the ticket.Works like magic,and will still dry properly.

Cheap mineral spirits are for cleaning brushes,when the job is finished.
Also not for cleaning the work surface,if you want the paint to stick.

If I was stuck,I'd use Linseed Oil,never Motor Oil,in my paint.
Motor Oil will NEVER dry,that's why some people use it for storing brushes.
Linseed Oil,or Boiled Linseed,will Polymerize just like the resins in 1-Shot.
I can't imagine how the paint would last as long with motor oil added.
I know people have been doing it for years,but that don't make it right.

Plastic cups stand up better than paper cups,especially with solvents.

Jester
07-02-2004, 02:29 PM
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customer is paying over $150 an hour,
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holy shit for real!!!!! no wonder I'm so friggin poor http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

safariknut
07-02-2004, 05:57 PM
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Dixie cups are waxed,,,the thinners can desolve the wax and screw up some of the colors. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Around here in the sunny South the ol' timmers use a couple drops kerosene when the weather heats up makes the one shot flow,,,,,HRP

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I don't know if 1-Shot still lists it on the can,but that was what was recommended by them for hot weather use:a couple drops of kerosene.
Nate: for mixing cups,go to a pharmacy and ask them if they will sell you some 1oz.medicine cups.I buy them at a local drug store for about $3.50 per hundred.They are made of polypropylene(which doesn't need or use a mold release when they are made so there is no fear of paint contamination)and are resistant to just about any chemical you could name(that's what they make storage battery cases from).
Best bet is to palette the paint on a glossy magazine(like the endless supply that my wife gets in the mail everyday)and use 1-Shot reducer.Like Ian said if your customer is paying $150 dollars /hour,he deserves the best.A word of warning:If you're painting with HOK paints,DON'T use a magazine for a palette as the inks will react with the HOK paint and thinners and mix in with them!Use a piece of metal or glass(not plexi;it melts)with HOK.

Johnny Ace
07-02-2004, 06:02 PM
Ray...we use the clear poly cups,too...and Juxtapoz makes a FINE palette..... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

296 V8
07-02-2004, 06:10 PM
Anybody ever use slow lacquer thinner? Someone told me it helps one-shot bite better.

Smokin Joe
07-02-2004, 06:11 PM
One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer

Unkl Ian
07-02-2004, 06:15 PM
Lacquer thinner burns the pigment,
and can reduce the life expectancy of your artwork,according to the factory rep.
It's also hard on brushes.
If you want your 1-Shot to stick better,use the 1-Shot hardener.
It was developed specifically for Alkyd enamels and also improves adhesion.

Unkl Ian
07-02-2004, 06:18 PM
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...and Juxtapoz makes a FINE palette

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Life is too long to use UGLY palettes. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

kustumizer
07-02-2004, 10:52 PM
awesome thanks for the tips guys, i will get some 1 shot reducers and mix it on palltetes, do you guys recommend using harderner on everything you stripe?? Thanks NAte

Unkl Ian
07-02-2004, 11:12 PM
Personally,I don't use hardener at all.
For the work I do,it is not necessary.
Plus it has a limited shelf life,and contains Isocynates.




If my stuff was to be Cleared over,or I was doing production work at a Dealership,
I would probably use Hardener.

Zapato
07-04-2004, 02:06 PM
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Personally,I don't use hardener at all.
For the work I do,it is not necessary.
Plus it has a limited shelf life,and contains Isocynates.




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Hardener has a shelf life? just how long? and is this true with all hardeners? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

safariknut
07-04-2004, 06:25 PM
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Hardener has a shelf life? just how long? and is this true with all hardeners? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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Most catalysts are only good for a few weeks after being exposed to air.I have kept it a bit longer by keeping it regrigerated(NOT frozen!)and stored upside down to keep the drying to the bottom of the can.