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cadlights
06-17-2004, 02:01 AM
I've posted a few E Bay links that's for sure.
But E Bay links I will post no more.
My E Bay ID is dep3054,
I'm not a power seller and I don't have an E bay store.

I've got a lot of stuff I'm trying to sell,
And I've got a lot of stories to tell.
I've helped a lot of folks over the years,
Told a lot of lies and drank a lot of beers.

I'm close to retirement and need the cash,
And I'm liquidating my enormous stash.
So E Bay is where I'll make the bucks,
For all the stuff I have for cars and trucks.

The Hambers mean a lot to me,
So I'll help anyone on the Hamb if need be.
I always keep an eye on the classified ads first,
So I don't get beraded and cursed.

If you see an item in my ads you need,
I'll cancel early I'm not driven by greed.
So keep an eye on what I'm selling on E Bay,
I might have the part you're needing today.

But no more will I offer up a link,
Cause the shit I'm hearing is starting to stink.
Thanks for putting up with my rant today,
This is something I just had to say.

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 02:29 AM
I feel your pain...everyone talks shit about Ebay,mostly because they are jealous that they arent making money on ebay themselves,and you arent giving them free parts.God forbid you make any profit from anything automotive! Its all Bullshit though..I'm for Capitalism any day...Don't get me wrong,I'm willing to hook someone up if they really need it for a project and its someone I know.But otherwise,, bid like the rest of them and SHUT THE FUCK UP!

Hard On Parts
06-17-2004, 02:46 AM
Well said Marcus.

desertratrodder
06-17-2004, 02:54 AM
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, bid like the rest of them and SHUT THE FUCK UP!

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NICE!!!
Maybe I misinterpreted you, but you are one of the kings of ebay spam..
Some boards prohibit it, this one doesnt. I think he was saying he wasnt going to SPAM the board anymore. He was nice enough to give his ebay ID so we can look at his stuff, if interested.
Since when were you appointed to be the one to tell anyone to shut the fuck up?
Some on here find you amusing, I think youre an ass. Just my opinion... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

swazzie
06-17-2004, 02:58 AM
Aye , actually he wasn't talking about bidding at all.thanx Marcuss. swaZZie

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 02:53 PM
right back at ya Desert fox...

Spitfire1776
06-17-2004, 04:08 PM
Dude, that was like poetry man. It spoke to me. Duuuude. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

E-bay is like the wind, sometimes it blows you gently to gentle comfortable places, and sometimes it squalls your balls to the wall.....

The37Kid
06-17-2004, 04:59 PM
For what it is worth I think eBay is the best thing that has happened to the hobby. Where else can you buy and sell 24 hours a day? Where else can you unload non automotive stuff to finance your car project? Personally I don't think it is right to direct bidders to your own auction from another website, I also don't think "handling" fees are just. If you overpay on an item remember, you didn't take a day off to go to a flea market, and you didn't walk around in the hot sun or pouring rain.

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 05:19 PM
Man thats exactly what I say...You think of the time and money you spend walking through flea markets and swap meets and usually never find what you really need just a bunch of shit that you feel compelled to buy because you didnt want your trip to be a complete and total waste!!Shit you can go on ebay type in what you need and find it,the prices only reflect how much you or the bidders really want that item.Its funny I have bid on items for top dollar and the nest day I saw the same item for over half of what I paid for it...Thats just how it goes..You can't be a baby and whine about it,you just have to lay your balls on the table sometimes..I think its thrilling as hell to bid on shit..its a sport and a form of art to me!

Spitfire1776
06-17-2004, 05:32 PM
I think the two real draw backs to Ebay are 1)Scams - they come and go in spurts, but it can prove to be rather debilitating to a winning bidder. Even the most seasoned bayer can be caught in them. 2) Snipers - the number of times I have been sniped on stuff is rather discouraging. In addendum, I understand as well that many times snipers end up being non-payers.
In the end though ebay is definitely an asset. It has provided a new venue for small business, provided a convenience for throngs of people, and helps getting stuff out there being sold that would otherwise just sit and rot. Its a good thing.

Though I do like swaps, because there is a swell of info and great finds that can just pop up. They're two different species living a symbiotic relationship.

The37Kid
06-17-2004, 05:40 PM
Here is another plus for eBay, I desided I wanted a 1937 Harley, just like the one Dad bought new. I bought the Palmer book and every other one I could to educate myself. In the begining I wouldn't know a '37 from a '48 part at a flea market. However, bit by bit I found everything I needed on eBay. The seller knew what he had, I just found it by running a search. I'd still be walking around flea markets looking for parts if it wasn't for eBay.

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 05:47 PM
Ebay is awesome thats all there is to it.In the 4 years as a member and with over 400 transactions I have yet to be scammed.Its like you said 24 hrs a day, where else can you look for shit at 2AM in your underwear if you want and buy stuff?.Modern technology aint so bad...

The37Kid
06-17-2004, 06:00 PM
I get a kick out of listing stuff on the East Coast at 2 in the morning and before I sign off having a bid from as far away as Australia. eBay sure has made the world closer, and I'd like to think a bit friendlier, just had a trouble free sale to Russia last week.

Brad54
06-17-2004, 06:10 PM
Man, keep posting links to your e-bay auctions. Hooking a buddy up with cheap or free parts is great, but so's making some money. I've given away a lot of stuff to guys I know, and I've also sold a few things at a profit. I've also traded stuff I didn't need, for other stuff I didn't need.
I just can't see what guys have against ebay, getting parts off ebay, or posting links to parts. You can be damn sure if someone posts a link for '57 Chevy station wagon or Buick 322 parts, I'm going to check it out. I love a swap meet, but what are the chances of finding a Weiand 3x2 intake for a 322? I've seen three on ebay, and got one at a decent price. .060 322 Pistons for $99. Lots of great stuff, and I'm happy with the prices I paid, and the sellers are happy with the prices they got. My only complaint about an auction is that I can't find stuff I didn't know I needed, like at a swap meet!
And I really don't understand why people bitch about snipers. Isn't that what Proxy bidding is for? How much would you pay for a part if it was at the swap meet? Well, punch in the max you'd be willing to pay for the part on ebay, and then wait to see if you win the auction.
Damn, grow up you bunch of whiners.
"Wah! He bid more than I did for the part that I really, really wanted!" Don't like the going price of a part? Welcome to supply side economics. Sorry the prices for a 2x4 392 Hemi intake with carbs isn't $65 like back in the old days. Don't like ebay, ignore it, and ignore the links posted in the Parts For Sale area.
-brad

Satinblack
06-17-2004, 06:11 PM
Ebay has brought good and bad to ALL hobbies! I personally don't mind it. Its nice once in a while to find something on there when you have looked high and low.

Although what I do find irritating is when people on this board and any board for that matter rip on it, but are always using it. It cracks me up.

Or when someone lists something on ebay and the comes to the board and says hey this is on ebay, and in the next breath says if your a hamber then I'll stop auction and sell it to you for less!, LOL why bother putting it on ebay then why not offer it up here first then put it on ebay if no takers, then you have no ebay fees.

Anyway just my two cents, but to each his own.

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 06:30 PM
Satinblack youre on the money there

Morrisman
06-17-2004, 07:43 PM
I don't understand all this talk about 'snipers'. From what I hear a 'sniper' is someone who bids at the last minute so they don't have to go through all the hassle of adding a bit, then coming back again as someone else has added a fuckin dollar to their bid, ad infinitum. I come in late, bid my MAXIMUM amount in one hit, and lets see who the fuckin' winner is.

If a guy is too tight assed to put his money on the line, balls up and go for it, then he will lose. I win! You MUST know how much you're prepared to pay for an item, you don't just roll up and see how much someone else is prepared to pay, then go a bit more. If that gennie '32 steel shell is worth $10,000 to ya, put $10,000 in your bid box! If you lose, it's because you don't got enough green.

"Grow some balls and bid properly" is all I can say to people who lose to 'snipers' and then cry in their beer about it http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Rocket88
06-17-2004, 07:51 PM
Ebay is ok, I don't care for that sniper crap though.
It's made things more expensive depending on where you are, for others, it's a blessing.
It gives them the chance to buy parts they couldn't find.
In Socal, Olds rocket parts might grow on trees but it's a little tougher finding them up here.
I'm probably going to start selling more stuff on Ebay.
I've given stuff away or sold it real cheap to people who "needed" it, only to find them selling a month later. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Slag Kustom
06-17-2004, 08:08 PM
one of the best things about ebay is if you find a guy selling a bunch of stuff for a particular car i have e-mailed them and asked for diffrent things that no one was listing. i found the whole power steering setup for my 50 caddy that way

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 08:09 PM
Sniping is how you play the ebay game... Again its all on how much you are willing to pay..Ebay is a timed auction,sniping is perfectly legal.set your proxy bid for as high as you will possibly pay to help prevent you from being sniped out.if the auction is at $20.00 you dont enter $20.00 for a max bid unless thats all you want to pay,but if the item is worth more to you you would enter like $40.00, chances are you will get the item for $20 anyways, but be prepared if you get them snipers in the last minutes throwing bids and raising the price.the price goes up by increments shown on the auction,each time someone bids above the current price the auction goes up by that increment.If you're looking for great super deals and steals on ebay,than you shouldnt be using it,you will just be dissapointed.Sometimes you get that awesome super deal,nine out of tem times the seller didnt list his item properly and didnt get the exposure.Its usually a lack of Keywords or mispelling.Which is anopther way to search for items.enter mispelled words such as Cragar type in Crager or Cragir,You'd be amazed at what you find sometimes by doing that.Ok enough with my Free Ebay clinic....

CTFuzz
06-17-2004, 08:12 PM
Morrisman.......I may be wrong, but I don't think you understand what sniping is.....for one thing, it is NOT good for sellers and not good for those with out sniping programs.......Half my income comes from Ebay!

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 08:26 PM
Thats the downfall right there on sniping from a sllers point,it does suck big time because the auction never goes anywhere and you end up with your starting price.Thats why more and more people are using reserves and buy it nows...Although I just sold some Riviera hubcaps that didnt get a single bid until the last few minutes and It went sky high,I was happy..

tomslik
06-17-2004, 08:27 PM
s'plain please!
how is sniping not good for the seller?

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 09:00 PM
Well in the case where you list an item at a price,you expect to get bids on the item making the price go up.Well if no one bids or they wait unitl the last seconds well then you end up with selling your item at or just above the starting point.Like I said the best way to handle that is to start your prices higher or use a reserve and or buy it now.Reserves kind of suck and tend to turn buyers away.its a catch 22 really,because you want to start the auction at a good price to get bidders bidding,but on the other hand you dont want to give it away either.Like I said its all part of the ebay game..I love it...

shoebox72
06-17-2004, 09:04 PM
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s'plain please!
how is sniping not good for the seller?

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I think what he's trying to say is that if only snipers bid on an item thats been listed for a week, there will be a mini bidding war in the last 2 minuites and will probrobly not sell for as much as if people were bidding on the item all week long. How many times can you really bid in 2 minuites. some one is gonna win & they most likly aint gonna bid top dollar in hopes of getting a bargain.

I'm a sniper myself after learning the ways (Thanks Snacky http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif) but I also will keep bidding if I know I'm in a bidding war in the last minuites, even if it has gone higher than I want to pay, just so I'm sure the other bidder pays big for it. That also helps the seller.

Billy

Cadillacin Marcus
06-17-2004, 09:14 PM
Sniper software is pretty hard to bid against too! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

scooter
06-17-2004, 10:01 PM
I used to HATE e-bay and never getting a bargin ,gettin snipped ,outbid , ripped off on shipping . Then i started selling .Now i love the snip thing ,high prices .Still hate shipping i am screwing myself on charges sometimes .Now that i have a new scale that should change .I had crap i was going to throw away and got GREAT money for on e-bay .Only down side is all the spoof and scams , though now i just foreward them to e-bay .And deadbeat bidders hate them too , they should loose a finger ! 10 deadbeat reports then we wont have to worry about them anymore .

ESnacky6
06-17-2004, 10:20 PM
Ebay can rule and it can suck all at the same time....

over the years, I've gotten some SERIOUSLY good deals on stuff,
AND I've also taken(more than) one in the shorts as well..!!
I will also occasionally bid for a buddy of mine who's building a bike,
who didn't want his wife to know about the $$$ he was actually spending...
Hahahaha..!!!

It all boils down to who is looking for what, and when...period.
and in my opinion, if it's a part you REALLY WANT or NEED,
bid like a man, or shut the fuck up....
How long will it be until you see that part again..??
whether on ebay or at a swap meet..?? Bid to win....
I think it all averages out ok in the end price-wise....

I have 100% positive feedback on bids and sales,
only been burned by sellers for a couple of items...
and for not much $$$...


ok Shoebox72, what is it that I outbid you on..?? Haha..!!


Later, Snacks......

cadlights
06-18-2004, 12:42 AM
I knew my post would stir the pot,
But I've got to get rid of all these parts I've got.
It won't be to long before I'm heaven bound,
And I don't want to leave with all these parts around.

The kid's don't care about my pot of gold,
Most will be thrown away and not much will be sold.
I've helped folks and gave away stuff most of my life,
Now it's time to leave something for the wife.

As I look around and see what's there,
I say to myself it's time you share.
E Bay has been a blessing to us,
And the missus says it's been worth all the fuss.

But I don't have time to mess around,
The easiest way to sell had to be found.
The classifieds here are a wonderful thing,
To help folks out and take them under your wing.

But the old clock on the wall is ticking away,
And my best bet now is to use E Bay.
I like to help people out I've done it all my life,
But now it's time to take care of me and the wife.

Remember dep3054 when you need a part,
And the missus will thank you from the bottom of her heart.

Travis
06-18-2004, 12:55 AM
alright already!!

Any more 59/60 Chevy stuff?!

or 1940 Chevrolet 1/2 ton truck stuff?!

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Travis

Cadillacin Marcus
06-18-2004, 12:58 AM
You Rock!!

cadlights
06-18-2004, 01:11 AM
Just put another one up. dep3054.
Keep checking back there will be plenty more.

CTFuzz
06-18-2004, 09:12 AM
I don't mind a bidding war at the last second...... but,no one can out bid a sniping program!! If everyone used snipe software, you would only get 2 bids.................

PANEL TRK
06-18-2004, 12:02 PM
Different strokes for different folks. Whats all the crying about e bay about.??
If the buyer has any brains & knows what they need then E bay is great, you can ask for more information, more pictures .
you can look at feedback to see business practise by seller. You can email other buyers to check the seller out.
You can make money buy parts and never leave home.
Which adds to the old saying " Time is Money"
Lots of guys will take their buddy's parts for low buck and be happy.
Yep Happy when they sell their ride for mega bucks.
We all know the value of what ever part we need. We all like to get it cheap. Cheap is not always value.
Buying & selling 24/7 is great to me because I can spend more time in the shop or playing with my Grand Kids Driving my Toy or typing a note on the computer.
E bay is like LIFE Its what you make it!!!
Panel Trk

Spitfire1776
06-18-2004, 12:22 PM
Sniper is someone bidding using an outside service that will automaticly bid higher in the last twenty seconds of the auction. It ain't a cheap thing. Think about it this way, eventually everybody on Ebay would be snipers if it continues as its going. I'm not talking about someone making a legitimate last minute bid.

Spitfire1776
06-18-2004, 12:29 PM
A number of people I know who sell on Ebay end up getting non-paying bidders from snipers. They get charged to re-list as well as initlial fees. PLUS its about buyer confidence. If people start getting sniped all over the place, they stop using Ebay. More and more stop using Ebay, it folds under and everybodies screwed.

And yes sniping is part of Ebay life, but the point is sniping detracts from the prospects of Ebay's longevity because it threatens buyer confidence.

saltflataddict
06-18-2004, 12:44 PM
Ebay is good. I just want my Damn Black Flag shirt I bought. I paid the ass#@#* about 3 weeks ago and still nothing. He says he will put in a carrier claim, fine but where FUCK is my damn shirt!! I hate guys like this.

Morrisman
06-18-2004, 04:55 PM
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Morrisman.......I may be wrong, but I don't think you understand what sniping is.....for one thing, it is NOT good for sellers and not good for those with out sniping programs.......Half my income comes from Ebay!


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Course, I may be wrong too, but I thought sniping was somebody who bids right at the last minute to save getting in some bullshit time wasting bidding war. Bottom line is, if yiou ar a serious buyer, you whack in your top price, and stick to it. No point pissing around day after day upping the ante a buck at a time.

I know there is sniping software available, but that is just to help, as not all sniping is software, unlike what somebody else mentioned.

If you're beaten on a bid, it's because you weren't prepared to pay enough. Simple as that.

suedesled
06-19-2004, 11:21 AM
I would have to agree with everyone here. Ebay has been good and bad for our hobby but it is nice when yuo can't sleep to look at project cars and build them in your head. And someone out there seems to need what you used to throw away or let rot in the junk pile.