HAMB CHOP- PLEASE READ THIS VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

[chopt50]

This is the first chance I have had to let everyone know that Karl and Kristy WILL NOT be participating with their 52 Pontiac in the hamb chop.

I am forwarding this post for them myself, a good friend, as they have no computer access to let everyone know first hand. They have been in the process of moving and some plans fell through, so they are temporarily living in a motel in Old Town Temecula.

We apologize for any inconvenience and also for the late notice.

PLease go ahead and line up a back up car anyway.


Now, for my opinion, and theis has NOTHING to do with Karl and Kristy....
Having done a few chops myself, and knowing what time and material is involved, I find it obsurd that there is a $1,000 fee for the recipient of the chop. I am not aware if that is made public to all on the forum or not, but there should be nowhere near that amount of money required for materials to chop a car. I do understand paying for the food and drinks and provisions, but even those could not add up to $1,000...

And, chopping a top in 2 days?! NO WAY POSSIBLE and still be done right. I don't care what anyone says, it cannot be done the best way possible in two days, and by no means possibly be finished.

Well, good luck to whoever gets their chop done, and I hope you guys can still have your party with another car... Just doesn't sound realistic to me. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[desertratrodder]

My 2 cents...
I've never chopped a car, but I bet its easy to get up to 1000. Youre talking more professional supplies than pep boys 5.00 pack of sand paper and a can of bondo... and the food and shirts cost too.
2 or 3 of us go to the friggin swap meet for a 2 dayer, and it costs around 100, if not more... More people cost more.
And I doubt the guys putting on the event would advertise it if they expected to do a shitty job. Ask the people whose car they did last year...

Oh ye of little faith.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[SwitchBlade327]

two days is plenty with guys who knwo what the hell they're doing. and the chop isn't FINISHED in that time, just all the hard work done. There would still be some metalwork, and filler work to be done before you could call it finished. Also, if you know how much getting a chop done in a shop costs, you know it's ALOT more that $1000....no one makes money off this deal.

[chopt50]

[ QUOTE ]
My 2 cents...
I've never chopped a car, but I bet its easy to get up to 1000. Youre talking more professional supplies than pep boys 5.00 pack of sand paper and a can of bondo... and the food and shirts cost too.
2 or 3 of us go to the friggin swap meet for a 2 dayer, and it costs around 100, if not more... More people cost more.
And I doubt the guys putting on the event would advertise it if they expected to do a shitty job. Ask the people whose car they did last year...

Oh ye of little faith.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

You're right.. I don't have faith in something of this nature. And I still cannot fathom spending $1,000 for shirts and food and drinks. Whatever.

Oh yeah, did last year's car get finished? If not COMPLETELY FINISH WELDED in the time frame set up for the event? There is absolutely no way possible to finish weld a chop 100% in one weekend.

Also, I never accused anybody of doing shitty work, I just had no faith in getting the job done. Also, there is a lot more to chopping a top then just making it shorter- you must have a good profile and shape or you are wasting your time. Anyway, I don't want to start a big long stupid post on this as I have seen fire up on the hamb. I just wanted to let everyone know that the plans have changed. Thanks for your time... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[chopt50]

[ QUOTE ]
two days is plenty with guys who knwo what the hell they're doing. and the chop isn't FINISHED in that time, just all the hard work done. There would still be some metalwork, and filler work to be done before you could call it finished. Also, if you know how much getting a chop done in a shop costs, you know it's ALOT more that $1000....no one makes money off this deal.

[/ QUOTE ]

I am very well aware of what a chop costs nowadays, but wouldn't you rather save the rest of the money and get a finished chop provided you do not know what you were doing and your car was the candidate for the hamb chop in the first place?
You yourslef said that the chop will now be finished and may require some metalwork... to me that is not even worth $1,000.
I am not accusing anyone of skimming money off this deal, but $1,000 is out of line for having people chop your top in a weekend, no matter what stage of completion the work gets to, because it will NOT be completely finish welded, and that, to me, is the most important part and the most work. My opinion, and I am sure that many others share it...

[Fat Cat]

Just how much would you figure the food for a 2-2 1/2 day gig would run you?

$250 is not out of line. Another $300 in shirts. Gee we're half way there

[praisethelowered]

In my mind killer is straight up untill proven otherwise. He certainly has been generous to others on here enough times to deserve the benefit of the doubt. It's pretty pissy to be such a bean counter about it.

[yorgatron]

[ QUOTE ]
Just doesn't sound realistic to me.

[/ QUOTE ] did you show up for either of the other 2 hambchops? unless you've seen it done i could understand the skepticism. HOWEVER,it has been done,twice so far.it's also been well documented,on the hamb and in the pages of Car Kulture DeLuxe.i was lucky enough to be there both times.you get 20 people working on a car for two 16 hour days and you end up with a pretty nice job for cheap.go ask Gene Winfield what he'd want for the same amount of work,alot more than $1000 i bet.i hope you didn't talk them out of it because you didn't like the price,because that would be stupid-george

[daign]

What the hell do you gain by posting this type of crap. If you doubt Killer or anyone else's intentions why don't you take it up with them. $1000 was a rough estimate for the shirts, supplies and everything else, not a 'quoted' price from a freakin shop. What it came to about last year from what I understand. Seems like you just enjoy stirring a pot? You should have done your research about past hambchops before opening your mouth. Hambchop was cancelled about a week back regardless.

I can't believe i bothered responding to you. Maybe you just need some education. Poorboy was the last recipient. See his comments. (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=86088&Forum=Al l_Forums&Words=hambchop&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Sear chpage=1&Limit=200&Old=allposts&Main=85812&Search= true#Post86088)

[SwitchBlade327]

yorg said was I was trying to say, better than I said it. I'd be as happy as a retard in a room full of bouncy balls if I could get the amount of work that's pulledoff in two days done via hambchop for a grand, it'd take me a few weeks at least to pull it off alone.....

[yorgatron]

BTW i spent a LOT of my own personal cash on gas to get there and back AND chipped in out of MY pocket for B-B-Q stuff and bottled water http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[yorgatron]

AND coffee.

[yorgatron]

AND i drove all night to get there. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[TINGLER]

I was under the impression that the $1000 was a suggestion and not a requirement. It was simply the cost of supplys.

I'm gonna start a Middle Tennessee Hamb chop. Bring your heap over and for $200 worth of beer, I'll chop it by myself in an hour. (after I drink the beer) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Flat Rod]

I can't say how long or how much a chop should cost since I've never done one, but a good while back I asked a friend of mine (who's dad owns and runs a resto shop) if they'd ever done a chop before. He told me they did a Merc that the final cost came to over $3000 and it took 3 months. But I'm pretty sure that included everything (glass, paint, overhead etc.). I also know that they screwed up the back window frame (how the heck) and had to go find another to replace it. I honestly wouldn't want them to chop the top on a roadster for any price. I would think that these guys can do the job right since it isn't their car and they have done it before.

Just 2 more cents in the pot

[Berdoo John]

Interesting change of attitude about the HAMBChop:
"I would love to help out on the chop as I know Kristy and Karl and they are great people.."

As for the level of completion and quality, look at the pics, cause I'm assuming you have not:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=415003&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=2&vc=1

The smiles on Poorboy's and Peter's faces on Sunday afternoon indicated to me that their money was well spent.

I have other things on my mind to write but I will leave it at that.

[FWilliams]

what an ass, please go research your facts, then go away

[PEDDRO]

HAMBchop is a great thing regardless. I followed the first one right through with Pete. I know he was pretty stoked about it. Don't know if was EVER intended to be a completely finshed chop.

Seems strange to start a pissy post like this....??????

[RocketDaemon]

Viva hamb chop
i love the concept and both hamb chops seems to have gone very well, and 1000 bux for food and supplies for like 20 people doesn't seem wierd to me, the guys involved have full respect and everything from me atleast... looking forward to see pics of this years hambchop when its over http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ESnacky6]

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=317635&Forum=A ll_Forums&Words=4456&Match=Username&Searchpage=1&L imit=25&Old=allposts&Main=317635&Search=true#Post3 17635

Hey chopt50, you ASSWIPE...
Didn't Ryan basically tell you
to SHUT THE FUCK UP OR GO AWAY a while back..??

You don't have anything better to do than
question people's abilities, complain about shit,
and repeatedly post negative comments..??

GET A FUCKING LIFE ALREADY..??!!!??

Live and let live, quit stirring the pot,
and go back to CHOKING DOWN collective MILES
of COCK instead of WASTING OUR TIME..!!!!

We all know the Hamb Chop has been cancelled a week ago...
no need to rehash and throw out USELESS, NEGATIVE opinions...

Thank you, please drive thru.... Damn...

[burtrido]

In the subject line you said to 'PLEASE READ THIS VERY IMPORTANT'. I'm still waiting for the important part to come. What made you the warm centre that life crowds around. It all sounds like reasonable deal to me. Go away jack ass!!!!

[burtrido]

And who the fuck gave this thread a god damn star rating!!!

[CURIOUS RASH]

First I heard of the $1000.

When I was trying to get a Mid-Am HAMBchop going I spoke with Killer at length about how to pull it off.

He never mentioned $1000.

We were all just going to figure out what it takes and everyone show up with something.

PRETTYMAN was going to supply food, BEER, and places to crash.

Of course, we have NO CLUE what we are doing! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

But, that's part of the fun.

I can say this about HAMB get together events,
if you are the recipient, you had better follow through with what you say you are going to do instead of leaving the host holding the bag.

Cuz that is some serious bull shit.


Oh yeah, as the others have said, nice timing.

You be sure to let us know when the apocalypse is coming.

RASHY

[4t64rd]

I was reading this over breakfast...

I have a bowl of Corn Flakes here.

Hey Chopt50, would you like to come over and shit in them?

[JimC]

I have not been involved with either H.A.M.B. chop.
But, I have seen two chops and a section job pulled off in a three day weekend at Branson, Mo. at three separate "Cruisin Branson Lights" by Eldon Titus and just a few others helping him.
I have been witness to the "Big Olds Thrash" just recently.
It is unbelievable the amount of work that can be accomplished in a day or three by a group.
I am not an experienced body shop appraiser, but do know that supplies, food, and drink cost money.
Add t shirts with printing costs and the price can easily near or top a grand.
In a reply to one of the posts requesting or giving information about the proposed chop, the sum of $1000.00 was mentioned.
Ryan questioned it, and received a reply that it was informational to let the folks with the car know what they might need to spend.
At NO time did Killer or anyone else, to my knowledge, suggest or imply that a profit was to be made on the chop.
I would have loved to had my 47 top chopped by this group, but distance is prohibitive.
Chopt50, If you can do the work and at the quality you imply, I will give you $1000.00 for the job, and you can keep all over the actual cost.
Want the job?
Didn't think so http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif.

Please do us all a favor and ask Ryan to lock this post or remove it entirely.
Jim

[zman]

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. So please don't go away mad, just f#ckin' go away...

[autocol]

i will say, for what i believe is the third time, that in my most humble of opinions, you are the biggest dick on the HAMB.

[hotrodladycrusr]

I can add some insight to cost involved. For Big Olds' ONE DAY thrash I spent $320.00 at Painters Supply on sand paper disks,flat board paper, filler, primer, paper, tape, etc. This was not even everything that was needed, we still borrowed stuff from Fab32 and others that brought supplies. I also spent over $100 on food and beverages for just that one day! Add that together, that's $420 for one day's "work", no t-shirts involved. A weekend chop, with all the materials, t-shirts, food and beverages for 20 people can easily reach $1000 and is not unrealistic.

Yes, $1000 is alot of money no matter what your going to do with it but to get a chop done on your car for that amount of money is cheap. In this hobby, you gotta pay to play if you can't do the work yourself.

CHOP ON!

[Nick32vic]

Last year our car club chopped a club members 40 Chevy Sedan. It took less than a day, we had barbeque and about 20 guys. Its not unrealistic.

[Killer]

fuck you.

I bust my fuckin ass for an entire weekend and I get shit from a dumbass whos been involved in "a few chops"??

If I wanted to make money, I'd charge em the $6000 I normally do and tell you all to stay home.

The chop can't be done right???? I started on the passenger door on Poorboys car at 9PM Sat night, fixin it, cause it got tweeked somehow. Cut the whole motherfucking thing apart, fixed it, stayed till 1 in the mornin, made it look good. Cause thats what we do.

This pisses me off, I try to do something cool and get accused of not doing good work or making a profit on it?? I'm sorry I can't spend $1000 of my own money and then spend my time to chop someones car.

From the beginning, it's been known the the chop might not be finished but it will be solid enough to drive and open the doors with out the car falling apart (and both years I have made myself available after the chop to finish anythimng that didn't get done. during the week... you know, that time I'm supposed to use to make money to support my family?). I've also said over and over that the chopee covers food, materials and t-shirts.. you want a fuckin breakdown??

Last year:
food and drink (no booze) for 30 people for 2 days = $450
T-shirts = $300
materials:
$100 for steel
$120 for gas and wire for the welders
$140 for cut off wheels, sanding discs, sawsall blades

Fuck it.

[hotrodladycrusr]

Killer, don't let one bad apple ruin the whole barrel. It's a great thing you do, no justification needed to anyone.

Wish I lived closer, I would jump at the chance to have my car chopped..... and learn something in the process.

[CURIOUS RASH]

KILLER,

I understand you're upset but don't blow a gasket man!

He is the only one that seems to agree with himself.

RASHY

[Django]

This thread is bullshit. Killer DESERVES to be pissed. How about a HAMB UNCHOP. I know a good candidate...

[CURIOUS RASH]

[ QUOTE ]
This thread is bullshit. Killer DESERVES to be pissed. How about a HAMB UNCHOP. I know a good candidate...

[/ QUOTE ]

You're right, I didn't mean that he doesn't.

Just consider the source is all I meant.

RASHY

[raven]

Stay cool Killer.
You're worth much more to us than to lose your expertise over one person's opinion.
Take a deep breath and let's all walk away and forget about it.
HAMB Chop is one of the mainstays here and it will always live one as long as we have the generous folks who are willing to make an intense effort for someone else who could not afford a big name shop to do it or don't have the skills. Feeding them and giving some form of thanks they can wear home is a small price to pay for the fellowship, memories and new atitude your rod gets.
I wish we could have one in the Mid-West.
I'd be first in line...
r

[Radshit]

[ QUOTE ]
And, chopping a top in 2 days?! NO WAY POSSIBLE and still be done right. I don't care what anyone says, it cannot be done the best way possible in two days, and by no means possibly be finished.


[/ QUOTE ]

Good thing we have you here....to tell us what we can and can't do......


CHOPT50=JAFI......( Just Another Fucking Idiot)


Jason.....you don't need to justify costs to this clown.........he's a waste of time....

[Fat Hack]

Yo, Killer...anyone who's been here more than two months knows who you are and what you're about...and knows how a HAMB-CHOP is supposed to go down...it sucks to have someone trashing your efforts, but your buds here won't listen to that nonsense anyway...we KNOW you're bending over backwards to do something cool for someone who might not have the chance to get something as major as a top chop done under normal circumstances...and we applaud ya for it!

It's really a bummer that the HAMB-CHOP had to be cancelled (postponed?) this year, because it's something of a tradition around here, and it illustrates the comradarie that we all share! I hope to see another one happen soon, WITHOUT any negative bullshit surrounding it...the year ain't over yet!!!

I can't even BEGIN to fathom the work that must go into doing a chop (not a body guy here!), much less being able to get such an extreme undertaking basically done in a weekend. Anyone who doesn't think that such a dedicated group effort isn't worth the price of some grub, drinks, t-shirts and basic supplies is outta their mind! My car being a Fleetline (fastback) makes me wanna jump up and yell "ME! ME! ME! Overe HERE!" to get that kind of cool work roughed in for less than the price of a stock GM crate 350...but it's outta my range right now! (But damn well WORTH what it would "cost"!!)

Hopefully, this shit will blow over and we'll get to witness another very cool HAMB-CHOP soon!

Rock on, Killer!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[rdarda7]

killer dont sweat it .. we all know your not ripping amyone off and thats all that matters...fuck that guy. and to me the hambchop should be for a guy/girl who is going to work on there car after the hardest part is done (well mybe i shouldnt say that becease body work is hard for some of use too lol ). and if your not in it to learn go to a pro and let them do the whole thing..shit and this year would have been the frist time for me to see it done dam !!

[Jet Fuel]

I hesitate to add to this fucking mess, but I can't sit silent without sayin':

Killer's one of the most straight up motherfuckers a guy'll ever meet. He works like a dog and doesn't stop until the job is plenty done. He promises that the car will be in one piece before the car goes home, yet has delivered bodies that are much much much more than that.

His generosity and contribution to the HAMB and to me personally have been beyond value.

Eat a bowl of dicks and a half a cat.

-jf

[Fraz]

Jason, there's a helluvalotta people here who stand behind you and your work. You do awesome stuff. Don't let this jamoke make you go away. Even if I don't post a reply, I always read your stuff cuz I learn something.

[cleatus]

WTF... I cannot fathom someone BITCHING that $1K is too much to pay to get a car chopped - by a PRO.

Forget about the cost of supplies...it's a hell of a lot of work, especially on the year of cars that are being offered up.

First you say it's too much money, THEN you say it's not enough time - WHAT you want it cheaper AND to take more time doing it?

Lay off the crack pipe chopt50 - Lets see some pics of the beautiful chops YOU "have been involved in"

[Big A]

I can't add anything that hasn't already been said. To come on here and say that something can't be done... when it's already been done... TWICE, you've got to be a fucktard.

Killer you know you wield a shitload of respect around here, even from dumb-ass Canucks like me who've never met ya. Don't give this another thought man.

Jet Fuel, "eat a bowl of dicks and half a cat"?! Damn, I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I read that. It coulda hurt comin' out my nose http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif LMFAO

[Nads]

I'm not adding anything to this that hasn't already
been said.
Just keep stirring the pot dude, I'm sure you'll be
a happy man for it.
FWIW, we chopped Draglink's '52 Chevy in two days.
That is all the hard work, not bondoing etc.
Yeah it can be done, and we had a small crew.

Jason don't sweat this asswipe.

[=mike=]

Maybe our new master of the chop
can show his depth of skill and knowledge
by having his own HAMBCHOP , on his own dime
on his timetable , then we could see what he is
really talking about . OR is this all just talk , with nothing
to back it up . . . mostlikely .

Jason fuck what this guy
is saying man . It is just bullshit on a computer , and you have
nothing to prove to him , or anyone else on
here . . . as far as the numbers / cost , or the skill involved .

[stoggie]

I agree - nothing more could be said. I look at the sedan delivery we are doing and think how cool it would be chopped. I do not have the talent. However someone rounds up a group of talented people that are willing to thrash on something for a couple of days. That rocks and is what the HAMB is all about.
This place is an outstanding educational tool for a lot of us looks like chopt50 has not learned enough. Go away understand what you are talking about and let those who know and spread their generousity be.
If I was not so far I would be screaming ME ME ME!!
The humor that is flowing is gonna get me in trouble at work. I keep laughing out loud.

Leave the HAMB alone!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Upchuck]

I don't know ANYTHING about chopping autos but I do got an opinion on this here HAMB chop, the chop to the best of my knowledge is voluntary, no one is conscripted into having their rig chopped and have to try and come up with the loot to cover it! so the person lucky enough to get selected is doing so of their own free will, no matter what the money is spent on

as for Killer in my limited time on here has been one giving, generous individual, the biggest thing I remember off the top of my head is the guy who rolled his truck and Killer offered up a cab and stuff to the guy to get back on the road NO CHARGE

[OGNC]

Hey Jason, I go to Temecula a lot and for you, if I ever have a chance encounter with this idiot I'll kick him square in his ass for you while I scream your name... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Fat Cat]

[ QUOTE ]
Hey Jason, I go to Temecula a lot and for you, if I ever have a chance encounter with this idiot I'll kick him square in his ass for you while I scream your name... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Kick him once for me too!

[SamIyam]

Chopt50, there's an old say that goes something like this...

"Put up, or shut up"

Sam.

[CURIOUS RASH]

So what happened to Chopt50?

He seems to have faded away.

Did he think he was going to enlighten all of us and we would all go, "Hey, that KILLER guy is RAPING us"?

Then we would all gather up the torches and hound dogs and chase KILLER down, string him up by his toes and put his hands in cement?

Well, if he did, he must REALLY be let

down!

Always remember, I'm here to help!!!http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

RASHY

[buzzard]

Killer, you deserve to be pissed. But be pissed at the one moron that has that opinion.

The rest of us appreciate what you have done, and hopefully, will continue to do.

[Jester]

1000 dollar chop.....cheeeeeeep. Having someone do it for you (like I did he he) priceless. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Two days of all out thrash, hanging with some kool kats, beer and pizza whats to complain about. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Killer]

ok, I replied to the intial post without reading the replies.

Thank you.

Ya know fellas, I've been on this message board since the beginning. I mean the very beginning. I have learned way more than I can say from this place. I don't buy magazines anymore (cept Hop Up and Rodders Journal) cause I just don't need em! I can honestly say I wouldn't be in the position I am in today without the HAMB...

Sometimes we post pix of our junk to get a couple "attaboys" and keep the motorvation on high. It's a bitch to keep motorvated when you are your only employee and sometimes you need another set of eyes to look at your junk and help you along the way... in this case, a couple thousand extra pairs of eyes really helps!

I feel like I have thousands of friends available at my fingertips. To answer questions, bust my balls, make me laugh.... or piss me off.

I promised myself a long time ago I wouldn't have "customers"... I would do work for friends. I'm fortunate enough to be able to stick to that... mostly because of the HAMB.

HAMBChop is my little way of saying thank you. Hopefully the person who has thier car chopped will remember it forever... the poeple who attend will learn a little bit and the rest of you can be there through the pix...

We knew about Kristys situation and she knew about the $$ involved. I was trying to figure out a way to help her get her car chopped without coming up with all the $$ herself. Me being the person I am, I didn't want to come on here and say "hey! send us some money so we can chop Kristy's car!" I was trying to do it myself... they've been though some tough times lately and I figured choppin her car might make the tough times a little better anyway...

I was disappointed and worried when we stopped recieving emails. That's why I was hesitant to do another car... I wanted to know where Kristy was and make sure they're ok!

chopt50 has never been to a HAMBChop and it's painfully obvious that he doesn't understand what the HAMB means to everyone else here.. thats too bad.

That was pretty long winded and prolly a clusterfuck of random thoughts that didn't make sense...

No more replies please. Let it die.

[Kilroy]

This thread is stupid and Killer doesn't need any shit for all he's done...

I do think that the $1000 dollar thing hasn't really been broadcast enough. This HAMB Chop is the first I'd heard about it. It's not in any way unreasonable but I think it could have been advertised a little more. I think it's caused a lot of unnecessary confusion.

May be next time it could be broken down kinda like an envoice so it's a little easier to see where the money's going. Instead of saying "It's gonna run you $1000 for food shirts and materials," just tell them what the individual costs are.

Well at least it's out there now.

Don't let it fuck up your mojo Killer. It's still a kick-ass event.

Chopt50 doesn't have what they call the People Skeels...

[63CadGuy]

Man, I'd pay a $1000 to have someone chop a top in a heartbeat. My buddy owns a shop and his rate is $41 per hour, times the 32 hours put in and that equals $1312! And thats just for one person's time! And not to mention the great time, man, like I said a $1000 is one sweet deal I wouldn't blink an eye at. Sounds like a great thing you guys are doing, don't let it die because of one dickhead opinion.

[=mike=]

oh you said DON'T reply . . . http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Luke Jivetalker]

[ QUOTE ]
This is the first chance I have had to let everyone know that Karl and Kristy WILL NOT be participating with their 52 Pontiac in the hamb chop.

I am forwarding this post for them myself, a good friend, as they have no computer access to let everyone know first hand. They have been in the process of moving and some plans fell through, so they are temporarily living in a motel in Old Town Temecula.

We apologize for any inconvenience and also for the late notice.

PLease go ahead and line up a back up car anyway.


Now, for my opinion, and theis has NOTHING to do with Karl and Kristy....
Having done a few chops myself, and knowing what time and material is involved, I find it obsurd that there is a $1,000 fee for the recipient of the chop. I am not aware if that is made public to all on the forum or not, but there should be nowhere near that amount of money required for materials to chop a car. I do understand paying for the food and drinks and provisions, but even those could not add up to $1,000...

And, chopping a top in 2 days?! NO WAY POSSIBLE and still be done right. I don't care what anyone says, it cannot be done the best way possible in two days, and by no means possibly be finished.

Well, good luck to whoever gets their chop done, and I hope you guys can still have your party with another car... Just doesn't sound realistic to me. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Chopt, let's get this straight RIGHT NOW! there is NO FEE to do your car ala HAMB Chop, BUT the recipient MUST pay for ALL the materials needed to do the job, pay for the Tshirts, and buy all the burgers, hot dogs, beer, water, soda etc etc etc, as for the 2 day comment, it's been done 2 years in a row now, no, the finish bodywork and glass isn't done, but we never said it would be you rube so I'm not sure what the fuck you're talking about, oh yeah, one last thing, BLOW ME!

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[CURIOUS RASH]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
This is the first chance I have had to let everyone know that Karl and Kristy WILL NOT be participating with their 52 Pontiac in the hamb chop.

I am forwarding this post for them myself, a good friend, as they have no computer access to let everyone know first hand. They have been in the process of moving and some plans fell through, so they are temporarily living in a motel in Old Town Temecula.

We apologize for any inconvenience and also for the late notice.

PLease go ahead and line up a back up car anyway.


Now, for my opinion, and theis has NOTHING to do with Karl and Kristy....
Having done a few chops myself, and knowing what time and material is involved, I find it obsurd that there is a $1,000 fee for the recipient of the chop. I am not aware if that is made public to all on the forum or not, but there should be nowhere near that amount of money required for materials to chop a car. I do understand paying for the food and drinks and provisions, but even those could not add up to $1,000...

And, chopping a top in 2 days?! NO WAY POSSIBLE and still be done right. I don't care what anyone says, it cannot be done the best way possible in two days, and by no means possibly be finished.

Well, good luck to whoever gets their chop done, and I hope you guys can still have your party with another car... Just doesn't sound realistic to me. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Chopt, let's get this straight RIGHT NOW! there is NO FEE to do your car ala HAMB Chop, BUT the recipient MUST pay for ALL the materials needed to do the job, pay for the Tshirts, and buy all the burgers, hot dogs, beer, water, soda etc etc etc, as for the 2 day comment, it's been done 2 years in a row now, no, the finish bodywork and glass isn't done, but we never said it would be you rube so I'm not sure what the fuck you're talking about, oh yeah, one last thing, BLOW ME!

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[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="green">Wow!!!

We must have had the same debate teacher!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

</font>

[FORDOLE500]

i feel a grand is reasonable not to mention its not a exact fee its just a high est. all these guys donate time and skill not to mention my shop for wich i have to close up for business on that saturday loosing several hundred dollers. i think that the obserdity would be in all these guys having to put all the time and effort, and having to put there own money in. that would suck!!! they already have to put alot of gas money into the drive and hotel rooms. so i would have to say f-off

[Paul]

[ QUOTE ]
That was pretty long winded and prolly a clusterfuck of random thoughts that didn't make sense...

[/ QUOTE ]

probably the sanest post in the entire thread.

no ofense to anyone else http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I can't help but think though, that the total cost of a HAMBchop should not fall entirely on the recipient, a thousand bucks IS a lot of money for some.

what if there were some sort of fund raisers, auctions or whatever throughout the year to cover the cost?

that way maybe we could help the young kid that may not have a thousand bucks,

it would also be a way for those of us that can't attend lend a hand too.

Paul

[Ryan]

You guys thought I wasn't gonna reply, huh? You guys thought I got all soft? Nope.

Here's the deal. Jason is one of the reasons the HAMB is here - a very big reason. Quite honestly, he's golden in my book... even if I haven't ever gotten a HAMBchop t-shirt! The man busts his ass and helps people... He's done two chops now and I'm sure it’s a bit frustrating that these 2 cars haven't been finished, that some people don't appreciate his efforts enough, and that ANYONE would doubt his honesty in such a situation.

The HAMB chop isn't about money. It's about learning. Jason and others are teaching folks a skill and doing it on their own dime &amp; time... I guarantee Jason is out his own money on the first two chops.... and now this? Jason, you go right ahead and be pissed! I don't blame ya...

Ya know, I walk a fine line on this board. I want the HAMB to be free and I want it to be valuable... I don't want to ask for donations or for auctions - I just don't have it in me. But even so, I get donations and I get people that do more for me than I would ever think to do for anyone else. What guys like Jason, shifts and Racefab do for this place just astonishes me... I don't know how to answer it. I don't know how to say thank you appropriately. I’m not sure what is expected of me.

It’s no secret that I am a fucking social idiot. I’m terrible at meeting folks and even worse at remembering their names afterwards… People send me auction money and I deposit it only to wonder two weeks later if I actually got that check or not??? And did I send a thank you email to the seller???? FUCK! I can’t keep up with it all and carry on a regular life. I don’t know where all this stops and ends….

Anyway, the point was not to bore you with my issues – it’s to tell all of you how much I do appreciate everything that you do even if I am too absent minded, too selfish, too busy, too whatever to get it out sometimes.

Be pissed Jason. Just don’t let it ruin the great things you’ve done in the past.

[Sam F.]

man, i dont have a thousand bucks to spare,but id try real hard to come up with given the chance to have a good group of friends to come over to chop my car who were experienced in chopping it the RIGHT way,AND make a big get together out of it at the same time! sign me up! my 50 is begging for a lowerd lid.
too bad im 2000 miles away..

honestly...like some have said already, i think people need to realize THIS website is a DIY'er website,,the HAMBchop has always seemed to me, a CHOP to help those that do their own work,and have always wanted a chopped top,but not the expereince...(not a way to get your car chopped for free!!WTF???)

...a group of your HAMB buddies get together,help you out with something you wouldnt be able to do yourself and the only thing you have to pay for is food and some shirts??? man,thats the LEAST you could do! *SMACK!!**

..and your fooling yourself if you havent priced steel,cutoffwheels and gas for your torches latley!!!! that shit adds up QUICK

[CharlieLed]

Here is my post from May 26th, it was relevant then and even more relevant now:

"OK, I've been reading these posts long enough and I can't keep quiet any longer...

The HAMB Chop is a super deal, there is NO other place that you can get a quality job done on your car in the matter of one weekend, not at any price. It is a shame that a dollar figure came into this discussion, buying T-shirts and materials is just a small token of appreciation...it's not about the money. There are many talented people who come together to donate their time and talent to help one of our young (read poor and inexperienced) members get a jump start on making their jalopy into a real hot rod.
Everyone who participated in last year's event worked their butts off, including poorboy and his dad, to make his Chevy a one-of-a-kind rod. It was great to see this young guy's eyes light up as his car was turned from stock to custom in a matter of a weekend.
Speaking for myself, I wouldn't have put the time and effort into this event were it not for the recipient. If this event is going to happen again this year, and I really believe that it should, then a little more time and effort should be spent selecting a candidate who meets the criteria for past events...young, eager, grateful, etc....
Let's not lose sight of the reason WHY we do this."

chopt50...I don't know you nor do I care to make your acquaintance. You have maligned not only a very talented hot rod fabricator but all those on this board who share a set of core values. Your comments are a reflection of your obvious ignorance of these values and of the folks who make this board the wonderful place that it is. If you want to slander people and talk smack go someplace else...you are not worthy to sweep the garage floor after Jason!

[Unkl Ian]

Seems only fair that the car owner pick up the tab for the costs associated with the event.
It was my understanding that the $1000 "cost" was an approximate guide based on previous HAMBchops.




Perhaps Chopt50 can post some of his vast experiences for us to learn from.
Better yet,we can all go over to his place,and eat all his food while we watch him
work his ass off for nothing.

[Paul]

[ QUOTE ]
Seems only fair that the car owner pick up the tab for the costs associated with the event.
It was my understanding that the $1000 "cost" was an approximate guide based on previous HAMBchops.


[/ QUOTE ]

agree,

but,

I still think that a young, eager, inexperienced, grateful, deserving kid shouldn't be turned away because of not having a thousand dollars.

if I can't be there with a torch and hammer,

I would be happy to send a few bucks.

Paul

[Kilroy]

Make the schlubs (Me) who come just to eat and watch, pay for the t-shirt. Charge $20. $15 to actually pay for the shirt (If they want one) and $5 goes to the HAMB for it's support.

I agree with 60 though...

It's just a suggestion.

The HAMB Chop is perfect the way it is and I think the money is less of an issue than the missunderstanding that surrounded it.

[ShortBus]

Killer put it most succinctly: fuck you

What a fucking prick.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
why don't you quit stinking up our garage with your bullshit and GO AWAY.

I'll kick $10 towards gas for Court's trip to Temecula. EVEL can ride along to shoot some asskick video, add some music then sell DVDs to fund the board. Anyone want to design the shirt?

I wish Karl &amp; Kristy the best of luck in getting their life situation back on track. Hang on you guys, it'll get better.

[ChuckleHead_Al]

I just hate you, chopt50, crybaby, joto, chavala, i'm backing up Killer...

[burndup]

fuhhhhk... This is just like when Shine-Head O'Conner tore up that picture of the Pope! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

btw, whats a chavala?

[Paul]

it's a dude's name man,

fist name Maurice http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
................

a video of the chop,

would be KILLER!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


Paul

[james]

I haven't said anything yet, but what the hell.... The $1000 seems fine as far as everything goes (food, shirts, etc), I just think alot of us who have been here a few years were kinda taken aback when it was mentioned, because noone said anything about the first two HAMBchops, and the way the $1000 was mentioned kind of "matter-of-factly" like it was a fee we should all know about. If you read the beginning of this post it looked like Ryan was kinda suprised. Like I said, a great deal, just kinda came out of left field. Kinda like winning a new car and then being told you are responsible for paying the taxes--fair, just a bit of a downer.

[Jester]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Seems only fair that the car owner pick up the tab for the costs associated with the event.
It was my understanding that the $1000 "cost" was an approximate guide based on previous HAMBchops.


[/ QUOTE ]

agree,

but,

I still think that a young, eager, inexperienced, grateful, deserving kid shouldn't be turned away because of not having a thousand dollars.

if I can't be there with a torch and hammer,

I would be happy to send a few bucks.

Paul





[/ QUOTE ]

Just because your a young eager broke kat (aren't we all) doesn't entitle you to have your car done at no expense. Shit if that were the case everyone would have their shit done for free all the time. Look if you know someone deserving send them the 1000 for the event or if you can do it yourself for them for free...go head on captain. I think your missing the point: no one and I mean no one could have something like this done for this little amount of commitment unless they (A) do it themselves (even then there are materials to consider) or (B) a friend takes on the job for them for free (even then there are materials to consider). Ok so here's the real deal kats and kittens..if you can't afford it you won't be able to do it <font color="pink"> boo hooo </font> and if you can your getting a great deal so <font color="red">what the fuck </font>. Get a life.

<font color="red"> J </font> <font color="blue"> E </font> <font color="purple"> S </font> <font color="orange">T </font> <font color="black"> E </font> <font color="yellow"> R </font>

[Paul]

[ QUOTE ]
Get a life.

[/ QUOTE ]

hope that wasn't for me.

personaly,
me,
if I was young,
had an old car and somehow was able to scrape together a thousand bucks,

I'd buy a welder and learn how to do it myself.

oh wait, that IS what I did.

I think we are drifting from the point.

Killer and those who have VOLUNTEERED thier time and experience

need ALL the support and recognition they deserve.

the HAMBchop needs to happen

the HAMB needs it to happen.

I like the idea of selling seats to the show,

sounds like a blast,

it could be a hands on votech type learning experience with a party on the side.

Paul

[Jester]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Get a life.

[/ QUOTE ]

hope that wasn't for me.

personaly,
me,
if I was young,
had an old car and somehow was able to scrape together a thousand bucks,

I'd buy a welder and learn how to do it myself.

oh wait, that IS what I did.

I think we are drifting from the point.

Killer and those who have VOLUNTEERED thier time and experience

need ALL the support and recognition they deserve.

the HAMBchop needs to happen

the HAMB needs it to happen.

I like the idea of selling seats to the show,

sounds like a blast,

it could be a hands on votech type learning experience with a party on the side.

Paul







[/ QUOTE ]

nope nothing personal jest an observation....Any way what do you get when your cross a peice of bermuda onion and a donkey........a piece of ass that brings tears to your eyes.
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[metalshapes]

[ QUOTE ]

sounds like a blast,

it could be a hands on votech type learning experience with a party on the side.

[/ QUOTE ]

It seems to me that is the best way to sum it up already.
The owner of the car pays for the party and the party supplies.
None of that grand goes to the chop itself, which is a good thing.

And BTW, I have heard of a guy who will chop a car for about $ 850. When he is done, none of the doors or glass can be made to fit, and it is almost certain the car will not be on the road again.
I tell people to look him up when they dont like my prices...

[Germ]

JASON is my MAN,
PERIOD.....

Hey KILLER...... you need any ASS KICKING or SECURITY work.

You know who to CALL...
SKIP can MAKE me a FUCKING burger, while I twist some NECKS, and stab GREASERS with my MOMS favorite salad fork,,,

XOXOXOXOXO

germ

[chopt50]

[ QUOTE ]
I have not been involved with either H.A.M.B. chop.
But, I have seen two chops and a section job pulled off in a three day weekend at Branson, Mo. at three separate "Cruisin Branson Lights" by Eldon Titus and just a few others helping him.
I have been witness to the "Big Olds Thrash" just recently.
It is unbelievable the amount of work that can be accomplished in a day or three by a group.
I am not an experienced body shop appraiser, but do know that supplies, food, and drink cost money.
Add t shirts with printing costs and the price can easily near or top a grand.
In a reply to one of the posts requesting or giving information about the proposed chop, the sum of $1000.00 was mentioned.
Ryan questioned it, and received a reply that it was informational to let the folks with the car know what they might need to spend.
At NO time did Killer or anyone else, to my knowledge, suggest or imply that a profit was to be made on the chop.
I would have loved to had my 47 top chopped by this group, but distance is prohibitive.
Chopt50, If you can do the work and at the quality you imply, I will give you $1000.00 for the job, and you can keep all over the actual cost.
Want the job?
Didn't think so http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif.

Please do us all a favor and ask Ryan to lock this post or remove it entirely.
Jim

[/ QUOTE ]


Sure, I'll take the job fucker. But it will be A LOT more than 1000. I NEVER ONCE SAID that anybody was making a profit off of this event, and nobody even told Karl or Kristy that it was an optional amount of monet to be paid.

Yes, I do doubt the work of SOME of the people on the hamb, and those 2-3 day jobs at the carshows are pulled off by professionals.


LOOK, I never intended to shoot anyone down, I did not know that the hambchop was cancelled as I don't go on the site often anymore because I think its lame, I was simply doing Karl and Kristy a favor by posting the fact that they are not chopping there car.
As I stated already, My opinion about the set up has NOTHING to do with them, nor did I persuade them to change their minds about the chop... They honestly do not have the resources or ability to participate even if it was still GOING TO HAPPEN.

Fuck, it doesn't take much to make you all fucking butt hurt over the smallest opinion. I have had a lot of PMs from people that AGREE WITH ME on the subject.

Whatever, pull your little survivor shit games and kick me off. I really don't have time to argue and get heated up over crap. Just wanted to state MY OPINION and I am still sticking to it you assholes!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[CURIOUS RASH]

[ QUOTE ]
I have had a lot of PMs from people that AGREE WITH ME on the subject.


[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="green">I call BULL SHIT on that one.

And, if they don't have the SACK to get in here and say so personally...FUCK 'EM!!!

I don't like you, and that's a problem for your little world.

RASHY </font>

[superbell]

Chopt50 or "Toad" as your signature suggests, you have been a dick starting when you were bashing K-members coupe and now your a 21 year old veteran . Your nothing but talk, go away.

[Fat Cat]

[ QUOTE ]


Yes, I do doubt the work of SOME of the people on the hamb, and those 2-3 day jobs at the carshows are pulled off by professionals.

[/ QUOTE ]

And you are saying that Jason(who does this type of stuff for a living is not a professional. Boy are are just a bigger dumb ass than even I thought

[ QUOTE ]
As I stated already, My opinion about the set up has NOTHING to do with them, nor did I persuade them to change their minds about the chop...

[/ QUOTE ]

And I am supposed to believe that with the comment below. Me thinks you have an agenda and it becomes more transparent with every post.

[ QUOTE ]
I am still sticking to it you assholes!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Gee Captain Buttpipe. I am glad I finally found someone who can not only stick it to me but tell me about it afterwards. Usually I don't need that because they actually stuck it to me and I felt it. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[CURIOUS RASH]

[ QUOTE ]
Gee Captain Buttpipe. I am glad I finally found someone who can not only stick it to me but tell me about it afterwards. Usually I don't need that because they actually stuck it to me and I felt it.

[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">

OOOOOhhhhh MY GAAAAAAAWWWWWDDDDDDD!!!

I'm on the frickin' floor over here!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

RASHY </font>

[chopt50]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have had a lot of PMs from people that AGREE WITH ME on the subject.


[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="green">I call BULL SHIT on that one.

And, if they don't have the SACK to get in here and say so personally...FUCK 'EM!!!

I don't like you, and that's a problem for your little world.

RASHY </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Everyone on here is a joke.

Besides that, who the fuck is JASON? and what makes his work so special?

Once again, I was just posting a message for them, as I have NO time to sit in front of a computer and bullshit about things you should be in the garage doing. you guys get WAY TOO WORKED UP over this shit.

YOU CAN ALLLLLL FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[46stude]

[ QUOTE ]
YOU CAN ALLLLLL FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Why thank you, kind sir. We have all been sitting around anxiously awaiting your permission...... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[superbell]

You want to meet any of us and say that man to man? I didn't think so....

Quote "YOU CAN ALLLLLL FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!!! "

[CURIOUS RASH]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I have had a lot of PMs from people that AGREE WITH ME on the subject.


[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="green">I call BULL SHIT on that one.

And, if they don't have the SACK to get in here and say so personally...FUCK 'EM!!!

I don't like you, and that's a problem for your little world.

RASHY </font>

[/ QUOTE ]

Everyone on here is a joke.

Besides that, who the fuck is JASON? and what makes his work so special?

Once again, I was just posting a message for them, as I have NO time to sit in front of a computer and bullshit about things you should be in the garage doing. you guys get WAY TOO WORKED UP over this shit.

YOU CAN ALLLLLL FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">OUCH! I guess you told me!

Excuse me while I lick my wounds...

DONE.

Too worked up?

You call a guy a crook for busting his ass on someone elses shit and you think it will just pass cuz you're so fucking smart?

RASHY</font>

[CURIOUS RASH]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
YOU CAN ALLLLLL FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!!!

[/ QUOTE ]

Why thank you, kind sir. We have all been sitting around anxiously awaiting your permission...... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

[/ QUOTE ] That cracked me right the hell up! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

You funny 46stude!

RASHY

[Fat Cat]

[ QUOTE ]
Everyone on here is a joke.

Besides that, who the fuck is JASON? and what makes his work so special?

Once again, I was just posting a message for them, as I have NO time to sit in front of a computer and bullshit about things you should be in the garage doing. you guys get WAY TOO WORKED UP over this shit.

YOU CAN ALLLLLL FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Man that is so original I am going to write it down. So let me get this straight you are bagging work you know nothing about. Your putting down people you have never met. And want us to do things that no self-respecting person should ever be asked to do. And we are supposed to respect your opinion too! Man you sure seem to have a pair on you. Although I am not sure what they are a pair of?

I worked on 2 different rods this week and finished up both of them so get off my ass about my garage time. I have about 55 hours this week and I took today off. How about you?? And I will be in the shop all day tomorrow

And I don't want or need your permission to die. I will die under my own terms. I wouldn't do it for my ex-wife I sure as hell amd not going to do it for you.

[forsakenfew]

who is jason? who the fuck are you? jasons work has been well documented here. the only thing you've offered up is childish bullshit.

i'm with superbell, put up or shut up bitch boy.

[Germ]

Do you RIDE VESPAS into trash cans?

You couldn't CHOP your FOOT off if you were the GUY in the ROAD WARRIOR movie

GERM

[Fat Cat]

[ QUOTE ]
Do you RIDE VESPAS into trash cans?

GERM

[/ QUOTE ]

No hes a trash can jockey.

[Germ]

he sounds like the CHOP MASTER?

I bet he CRIES easy,,,,

I bet he will email RYAN and tell him I said something MEAN....

[46stude]

Yea, Rash, my comment was amusing, but I must bow down to the master. I spit my Shiner Bock all over the screen when I read this one-

[ QUOTE ]
You couldn't CHOP your FOOT of if you were the GUY in the ROAD WARRIOR movie

[/ QUOTE ]

[flatlandman]

[ QUOTE ]
Killer put it most succinctly: fuck you

What a fucking prick.. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
why don't you quit stinking up our garage with your bullshit and GO AWAY.

I'll kick $10 towards gas for Court's trip to Temecula. EVEL can ride along to shoot some asskick video, add some music then sell DVDs to fund the board. Anyone want to design the shirt?

I wish Karl &amp; Kristy the best of luck in getting their life situation back on track. Hang on you guys, it'll get better.


[/ QUOTE ]
Right on Shortbus!
Kristy and Karl are really great people and I want them to get outta this rut. They are more diehard car people than I could ever be. She just wants to have her car chopped SO BAD. Hell, I'll put up HALF of the fucking cash if that's what it would take! Yeah, you heard me !
I'd sooner bribe somebody to give Karl a job and get them a place to live.Any takers??? Instead of the HAMB chop how about the HAMB give two young parents a leg up contest?

[Germ]

I would donate some cash or AUCTION some shit if its MONEY the CHICK needs,,, WHAT do you think?

make a POST and ROUND up the THOUSAND, I will auction a BARRIS trinket

[CURIOUS RASH]

[ QUOTE ]
Yea, Rash, my comment was amusing, but I must bow down to the master. I spit my Shiner Bock all over the screen when I read this one-

[ QUOTE ]
You couldn't CHOP your FOOT of if you were the GUY in the ROAD WARRIOR movie

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">A SHINER FOUL!?!?!

I think there's a five second rule! I sit carpet or vinyl?

Shit, five seconds are up.

Hold on, now I need a Shiner.....

That's better.

GERM is the MASTER.

I'm a LOSER, therefore, HE is my HERO,,,,,,


Don't tell GERM but I laughed my ass off at that one too. Dude, an INSTANT visual. It was total recall!

DUMBASSES are so fun!!!

RASHY </font>

[flatlandman]

Right fucking on! Germ is fucking A 1 in my book! Anybody else?

[Fat Cat]

[ QUOTE ]
I bet he CRIES easy,,,,

[/ QUOTE ]

Naa, hes to much of a man to cry

[ QUOTE ]
I bet he will email RYAN and tell him I said something MEAN....

[/ QUOTE ]

And then? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Chopped50Ford]

Apparently Chopt50 has no idea on what this "sport" is all about.

He is obviously a "What do I get out of it?" type of person.

I give him a week before he is yanked off the board...heh http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Hey Chopt, maybe you should go to the Mini-truckin/Import crowd, there's alot of them type of people in thier hobbie, you'll be right at home. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Chopped50Ford]

[ QUOTE ]
Hell, I'll put up HALF of the fucking cash if that's what it would take!

[/ QUOTE ]

Flatlandman, Ill help. I have never met them but great people deserve the best of help. Ill drop a few 20's to the cause and my experience in metal work.

Its people like this that make it more fun to enjoy and do...it others..."aaaahem"...that can piss up a rope.

If I could hire, I would bring Karl in for work. I might be able to find a part-time situation. Work is getting heavy, and a few good workers may be what I need.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[RocketDaemon]

the funny thing is that _YOU_ also are here
so i guess your partially right...

[ QUOTE ]
Everyone on here is a joke.


[/ QUOTE ]

[k-member]

I don't think he could chop his foot off! ASSHOLE!

[momentumfoto]

Its getting HOT in Her! haha wow this is what I have been missing? hmmm not much I guess! hahhaa I think I will stick to the Classifieds. Shit is TOooo DEEEP in here.

overnout

[flatlandman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hell, I'll put up HALF of the fucking cash if that's what it would take!

[/ QUOTE ]

Flatlandman, Ill help. I have never met them but great people deserve the best of help. Ill drop a few 20's to the cause and my experience in metal work.

Its people like this that make it more fun to enjoy and do...it others..."aaaahem"...that can piss up a rope.

If I could hire, I would bring Karl in for work. I might be able to find a part-time situation. Work is getting heavy, and a few good workers may be what I need.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif [/quote
Way cool of you. This is the kinda thing we need. If you could do that, I'll send you something cool for your effort.
Karl is classed to drive highway trucks and he is 6'7" and about 300 lbs so he can lift damn near anything. I have to find out where they are exactly. I haven't spoken to them since March.
We have all been in the gutter (my gutter had a basement)and now my life is finally better than I could have ever hoped for so it's time to me to help out.

[JimC]

:quote"kustombuilder, or whatever, the post sure sounded like we were gonna see some hot chics."quote"

ChoptASS, You would not know a hot chick if she pissed on you.

Get a life away from this board.!

You are a little boy making little boy sounds,

show us your body work skills, and Your HotChick, or, Apologise TO EVERY ONE YOU SHIT ON.

NOW, LITTLE BOY, let us hear something constructive from you, or, let us hear nothing.

Then, you can go back to the closet and play with your momma's clothes. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jim

[zman]

[ QUOTE ]
I have had a lot of PMs from people that AGREE WITH ME on the subject.

Everyone on here is a joke.

Besides that, who the fuck is JASON? and what makes his work so special?

Once again, I was just posting a message for them, as I have NO time to sit in front of a computer and bullshit about things you should be in the garage doing. you guys get WAY TOO WORKED UP over this shit.

YOU CAN ALLLLLL FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

First off Love letters from "Large the Butcher" don't count.

Second where's the pics of your work Mr. High and Mighty.
Haven't seen shit you've done yet. Seen Jason's work, it speaks for itself.

I guess someone picked on you in high school (if you made it that far, you're obviously not very smart).

[CURIOUS RASH]

[ QUOTE ]
:quote"kustombuilder, or whatever, the post sure sounded like we were gonna see some hot chics."quote"

ChoptASS, You would not know a hot chick if she pissed on you.

Get a life away from this board.!

You are a little boy making little boy sounds,

show us your body work skills, and Your HotChick, or, Apologise TO EVERY ONE YOU SHIT ON.

NOW, LITTLE BOY, let us hear something constructive from you, or, let us hear nothing.

Then, you can go back to the closet and play with your momma's clothes. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jim


[/ QUOTE ] <font color="green">I'm so proud of you Jim!!!

It's like watching little birds fly from the nest.


RASHY </font>

[ESnacky6]

[ QUOTE ]
LOOK, I never intended to shoot anyone down, I
did not know that the hambchop was cancelled as I don't go
on the site often anymore because I think its lame

[/ QUOTE ]


why keep coming back if you think its lame....

go back to sucking cock for spare change, you fuck....


p.s.- Jason=Killer

[Luke Jivetalker]

"and nobody even told Karl or Kristy that it was an optional amount of monet to be paid."

Hmmm, if she was never told about money, then why do I have this email from her?

Skip,

1) Considering all things, will you have the $$$ for all the "stuff" that is involved in HC III? If I have to beg borrow and steal, I will get what is needed. I have no problem not eating out for the next two months if that's what it takes. We are actually going to rent a storage room this weekend to put most of our stuff into (in preperation to be out of here as soon as we find a place!), so any supplies I need, I can just store there as I get them.


That was just a part of her email back to me when I told her we had chosen her as the recipient, yeah her situation sucks but I don't think that everyone donating money is the cure, it's obvious that they have bigger fish to fry, so with that, Killer and I are looking at some other people and doing it later this year, Kristy, if you're reading this, I wish you all the best of luck with your situation, Chopt 50 if you're reading this, I wish the cum of 1000 camels dropped on you from above, you are fucking jerk.

Warmest Regards
Skip, Killer, &amp; the rest of the HC crew

PS- Germ, are you ready for Bonneville?

[old beet]

Good bye, Chopt50...........sucker!...........OLDBEET

[flatlandman]

All you guys over HC Jason and Skip especially, thanks for the info and the encouragment. I'm still going come down and help 'em out no matter what. If you can fit in her car via HAMBchop III part 2 or some other way let me. My offer will stand until you are ready. Got my word.
And Kristy and Karl if by some small chance you are reading this CALL ME COLLECT!!! Or if somebody knows where they are let me know. These two bent over backwards for me in the past when they really couldn't so it's my turn.

[CherryBlossom]

[ QUOTE ]
Chopt 50 if you're reading this, I wish the cum of 1000 camels dropped on you from above, you are fucking jerk.



[/ QUOTE ]


That's so friggin funny...but yet so.....EEEWWW.
LOL

[Paul]

Killer,

I trust you will keep us posted.

if this post is any indication

and I believe it is

the funds should not be a problem.

Paul

[flatlandman]

Ya know I kinda felt for the kid (chopt50) at first but then I read thru all his posts and what he has to say.
He ain't too bright. And I've know Karl and Kristy for a great deal longer.
Wanna know who is? here...
"Hey Ponchokitty! Welcome to the board. I am new as well. I live in Temecula and I have 50 Ford tudor that I chopt 6.5" and 9". I know all of the apple draggers, I mean Axle Draggers. Chet Miller, the founder, is a very good friend of mine and he is a great guy. Art, Joe, Ricky and Carol, and all the others are really good guys also. They have some really nice cars in the club. Anyway, it would be kool to meat up with you some day ans shoot the shit, so call me up at (909)303-1969. My name is Robbie. I work at Temecula Rods and Customs from 9-5 and go to school all day on Mon and Wed, so catch me this weekend. Hop to hear from you soon, as it is hard to find people around here with kool cars and similar interests that aren't 60 years old.

--------------------
uh, yeah, okay, yeah, I'll have a comb, some beef jerky, a bottle of Old Harpers, ..."
Call 'em up. See what he has to say.

[CURIOUS RASH]

<font color="green">That is a DANGEROUS amount of information.

What do I owe you? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

RASHY </font>

[flatlandman]

[ QUOTE ]
<font color="green">That is a DANGEROUS amount of information.

What do I owe you? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

RASHY </font>

[/ QUOTE ]
hahaha! nothing. kid shot himself in the face when he posted it for all to see. shouldn't put your phone number etc out there then call people names.
told ya he seemed kinda slow! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[klazurfer]

One of my friends have just recently become a father http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I kinda felt that he needed a brake from fatherhood , so I invited him to my favorite Pub .We had FUN !! , and it set me back $200. If $1000 could give me a weekend with 20 of you guys&amp;girls &amp; a Haircut to top it off , then that would seem like a Bargain !!!!!

[klazurfer]

Haircut ?? I meant HairChop ...

[Chopped50Ford]

[ QUOTE ]
I meant HairChop ...

[/ QUOTE ]

Is that like a flattop? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[mikey1610]

Sorry for the dumb question but I'm new here........Did the 2005 HambChop ever happen?
IF not I think dropping a grand to have your car chopped is totaly worth it!!! Show me where you can get a good chop done for $1000 and I'll be there tomorrow. Maybe after I've been a member long enough I will be lucky and have my car done by you guys. In the meantime if one does happen soon get hold of me for the t-shirts, I will print them for cost or next to nothing.

Glad to be here, reading the info posted on this board over the past few months has taught me much. Thanks. Mike

[CURIOUS RASH]

Sorry for the dumb question but I'm new here........Did the 2005 HambChop ever happen?
IF not I think dropping a grand to have your car chopped is totaly worth it!!! Show me where you can get a good chop done for $1000 and I'll be there tomorrow. Maybe after I've been a member long enough I will be lucky and have my car done by you guys. In the meantime if one does happen soon get hold of me for the t-shirts, I will print them for cost or next to nothing.

Glad to be here, reading the info posted on this board over the past few months has taught me much. Thanks. Mike

I hope you learned nothing from this post as it went to hell, as usual.

As for HAMBchop 2005, well, that battle has just begun.

This whole mess was over the 2004 chop, which did not happen.

RASHY

[Hyfire]

Some threads should just die....

HEY LOOK I MADE PAGE #7!!!! :D

[Ryan]

I should bann everyone that sent this post to the top.