Are all Ford Banjos created Equal?

[MattStrube]

Do you guys know if all ford banjos 36-42 are the same, or have the same dimensions? We''re mocking up a chassis and I have a 36 banjo, but might be using a 40 banjo for convenience? Also, are the axel housings the same length 1936 and 1940? I have the green bible, but it's not helping with measurements and such.

[SamIyam]

Actually, the one that we will be mocking it up with is a Model A banjo.

Are Model A banjos the same as '36's???

Sam.

[MattStrube]

That I don't think so, I thought it was a 40? Ok, are 36 and model A banjo's the same?

[Andy]

Bruce should answer this. I will try for now. The A banjo and 32-34 banjos are narrower than the later ones. The A's and 32's are weaker because they lack the extra bearing on the pinion snout. The 35-40 banjo housings are the same width and I THINK take the same axles. the 35-36 banjos have pinions with 10 splines verses the 6 splines of the later rears. I will know more later because I have a bunch of parts that I will try to make into a rear for my coupe.

[Kevin Lee]

Definitely not the same. But that's all I know for sure. I'm headed home for the day - I have a Model A banjo And a '48 Banjo sitting at home so I can take pretty much any measurement you want from either...but I have no '36 to measure. Sorry.

[Bruce Lancaster]

'35-48 same, late '32-34 same, has minor differnces from later, '28-32 same, has no rear bearing on pinion.
'35-48 have two different varieties of spider gears and axle gears, several different axles. 1928-1941 are all very close in width, 1942-48 are somewhat wider.

[Smokin Joe]

Spring mounts over the axles on an A and behind it on the later ones. That means the crossmember has to be different to keep the wheels in the fenderwells. There are differences in axle widths too.

[SamIyam]

We just need something to hold his axle tubes in place while we mock the whole thing up... I think he should just send the banjo that he pulled the axle tubes out via UPS... it may cost $15 to UPS it... but at least we'll have all the correct parts for the mock up (TM).

Sam.

[Crestliner]

Green bible says 32-34 axle lenght 32.18
35-38 " " 32.85 w/ 18 teeth
39-41 " " 32.85 w/ 16 "
42-48 " " 33.70 w/ 16 "

This is one axle length only.

[MattStrube]

Max, where did you find that in there? What page?

[Reggie]

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We just need something to hold his axle tubes in place while we mock the whole thing up... I think he should just send the banjo that he pulled the axle tubes out via UPS... it may cost $15 to UPS it... but at least we'll have all the correct parts for the mock up (TM).

Sam.

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Sam, that would be the safest way. You will not be able to bolt the Model A banjo to the '36 axel bells....and even if you could, the model a center section is narrower and would throw you off.

[MattStrube]

I rounded up a 36-37 banjo from strube brother #1 for the mock up. Thanks for the info fellas

[SamIyam]

Now only if we could get Strube bro #1 to show up and WORK. He's too much of a company man to take a day off... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Sam.

[FencePost]

With oney guy in Norcal and the other in Illinois
how the hell are you two mocking up anything? WEB CAM?

Doug

[SamIyam]

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With oney guy in Norcal and the other in Illinois
how the hell are you two mocking up anything? WEB CAM?

Doug

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Hahahaha... I never thought of THAT! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Most of the parts are out here already... the rear axle isn't though... and he's going to fly out on the 14th and we'll build it in a week. Then we're going to ship it back to Chi-town.

Sam.

[FencePost]

Sam,
How many cars can you fit at your house...
wanna adopt me? I'll ship my sh*t out there and
we can build and it ship it back http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Good luck,
Doug

[Kevin Lee]

Holy Christ are you serious? How about a three day layover in KC to finish my pile? It's close but I'm running a bit low on time and raw determination right now. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[SamIyam]

Hahahaha... that's a good one Grimmy! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

We're just going to try to get the rolling chassis done in a week. The only hold up right now is a dropped front axle...
Sam.

[Jive-Bomber]

And to add to the questions, are Open driveshaft truck banjo's stronger than the car models? Can a truck banjo handle 250HP?