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Paul
05-17-2004, 10:07 PM
this here post is another in my modified series.

I lost count, it's been so long since I posted one.. seems like about day nineteen?

anyway today I slid out of work early to work on it,

I put together the steering collumn with the three on the tree.

I used a late fifties F100 box and shaft and the collumn out of the '61 Lark.

and here's how;

first as usual I gathered up all the parts

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:09 PM
I trimmed a little off the bottom of the mounting flange on the box

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:11 PM
clamped the box in place and figured 14" shorter would work for the shaft

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:14 PM
I beveled the ends and cut a 7/16" grade 8 bolt to fit inside and drilled the two shaft pieces for roset welding it in

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:15 PM
stuck the bolt in and welded it through the drilled hole

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:17 PM
clamped it and the other half in a chunk of angle iron to keep it true

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:18 PM
and welded it up

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:20 PM
then measured the collumn, it gets 9-3/4" taken out of it

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:21 PM
so I took it all apart and cut it too

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:23 PM
welded the shifter tube and collumn back together

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:24 PM
reassembled the collumn

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:26 PM
put the collumn on the box and shaft, put the wheel on and clamped it back in the car for checking fit

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:29 PM
I used a chunk of angle iron to clamp to,

I will make a new bracket to accept both the box and wish-bone end,

but you can see it will all come together nicely

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:31 PM
and another

Paul
05-17-2004, 10:32 PM
last picture

Fat Hack
05-17-2004, 10:32 PM
Impressive, as usual!!!!

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Paul
05-17-2004, 10:34 PM
gunna be kinda tight fitting pedals in there,

I'm still working that out in my head...

hope to post more soon..

to be continued http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Paul

dehudso
05-17-2004, 10:35 PM
Great work as always. Those welds look damn impressive.

Drewfus
05-17-2004, 10:41 PM
congrat's, and thanks for the update.

Cheers,

Drewfus http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jojo
05-17-2004, 10:48 PM
Yes! Another excellent segment, great work.

Paul
05-18-2004, 12:56 AM
thanks guys,

again this whole series is all very basic stuff,

I'm trying to keep it as simple as possible to show the young hot rodders how easy it can be to build a car.

A side note here; you can see in the first picture that I cut the shaft from the Stude, but as it turned out the Ford shaft is exactly the same diameter, spline and thread at the top, the only difference I could see was that the Ford uses a tube shaft and the Stude shaft is solid.

I used both top and bottom from the Ford so I could use the pin on the inside, if I used the Stude top I would have sleeved the outside of the shaft for the added strength.

Paul

Tinbender
05-18-2004, 01:16 AM
Nice work, thanks for taking the time to share.

PEDDRO
05-18-2004, 01:40 AM
Nice. I'd like to do something similar with a LaSalle column.

36-3window
05-18-2004, 01:49 AM
that is some very nice work, you are a talented person,and i'm glad you shared it with the hamb....this is the kind of thing that should be studied by many other members...but i'm afraid this will be page six before long,,, i hope i'm wrong

36-3window
05-18-2004, 02:45 AM
page two all ready...BTTT

Ayers Garage
05-18-2004, 08:33 AM
Thank you for taking the trouble to post this type of information. It helps me a lot seeing how other guys do these things.

flt-blk
05-18-2004, 09:12 AM
Great Tech.
Keeping the shifter on the column should make it feel
larger inside.
TZ

Stevie G
05-18-2004, 09:30 AM
This is why I hang out here.
Nice work.

Paul
05-18-2004, 09:33 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Keeping the shifter on the column should make it feel
larger inside.

[/ QUOTE ]

know what I mean? nudge, nudge http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Paul

Nads
05-18-2004, 09:55 AM
Nice Paul.
I'd really like to fab up a column shift for my '34, there's precious little room in there.

burndup
05-18-2004, 10:06 AM
Bitchin! Thanks!

Rusty
05-18-2004, 12:15 PM
That is sweet. Man I wish my projects were that easy. I love it when somoene is not scared to cut away. Great job.

Paul
05-18-2004, 02:32 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Man I wish my projects were that easy.

[/ QUOTE ]

I left out all the fancy language it took to put column back together,

I didn't think anybody wanted to hear a half hour of swear words http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Paul

Plowboy
05-18-2004, 03:12 PM
Nice!

SlowLearner
05-19-2004, 07:07 AM
Yup. This stuff is why I'm here!
You make it all look so DOable!
THANK YOU!
(Saving all of it)
-Keith

BTTT

plmczy
05-19-2004, 08:21 AM
Man 60's you make it look so simple and easy to understand. thanks. A question to you guys that run the older steering columns, aren't you afraid of being impaled if you were(god forbid)in a car accident? Is there a way of using the older columns with a collaspable shaft without have to go with a ididit($$$$) column? later plmczy

overspray
05-19-2004, 08:46 AM
Nice work, Paul. SUPER JOB of explaining and pictures.
plmczy has a good point. I remember some friends who died in car accidents from chest trauma due to steering columns. I put a mid 60's gm collapsable column in my 55 Chev. Those use the "rag joint" connector by the sector. From what I remember from my installation, your method should work but would be a little more involved. You would just have to make the cuts on either side of the collapse area. Some had plastic tabs that held the sleeves together which were designed to break on impact. Of course, welding would melt these if the heat was too close. Thanks again, Paul. overspray

Paul
05-19-2004, 10:08 AM
thanks again guys.

safety is always a concern and the effects of a crash are allways on my mind,

BUT.. more important in my mind then the colapsing column would be that

IF YOU ALTER THE STEERING COLUMN, BOX, DRAGLINK, ARMS, TIERODS, ANYTHING

please do your best to make sure it won't fail and be the cause of the wreck http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Paul