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Denny Zimmerman
07-21-2010, 08:49 PM
Slippery, ......,...well that's a start.....but why don't the pictures come up?

Your Sal Dee car looks great.

I know the pictures come up if click on the text but I want to eliminate that step.......need more help.

Thank You, Thank You, Denny Z

alleganyccr
07-21-2010, 09:01 PM
Wow! I've spent the better part of two weeks reading posts and looking at pictures here. I was referred to this by a gentleman who owns a street legal modified (early 70's Merv Treichler replica) and I am blown away by the pictures and the knowlege contained within. As a mere fan I feel a bit out of place posting, but I want you all to know that I am impressed with this. My father took me to Lancaster Speedway when I was 5 years old in 1972, and I was hooked. There are no cars as beautiful as they were then. Hopefully, someday I will have a street legal mod of my own. My first favorite driver was Jim McGraw (late models #49), but it wasn't long before I became a fan of Gary Iulg.
Anyway, I know there are a lot more pictures out there. Naturally, I'd like to see some old Ransomville Speedway pictures. Someone told me the first photographer there was a man named Louis Renna. Another person who took a lot of photos in western New York was Bob Hunter. What became of his photos and negatives I'd like to know. His widow was apparently cataloging them, but I haven't heard anything regarding that. I even sent her a couple of letters. No reply.
Some photos I'd like to see- anything from the first couple of years at Ransomville Speedway (1958 and 59), as my father had a car in the Hobby division, driven by Bob Steen (division champ- 1959). Also, I'd like to locate a photo of Ken Meahl driving a car at Waterloo (Maple Grove Speedway?!?) in 1962. He was driving one of my father's old cars, as he had wrecked his regular car not too long before that. He and his crew got my father's car, made their adjustments to it and took it there and were leading when, I guess, the axle broke. Not sure what the car number was. The car was #50, but Kenny at the time was known to run #38. there's more, but enough for now. I really enjoy the pics of cars found in a garage, barn, boneyard, or field. It's like discovering a shipwreck. You guys are all great. I'll be talking to a couple of old racers soon, so hopefully, it will lead me to sharing some phots. Thanks again!!

Scott- Burt, NY (north of Lockport)

ssffnomad
07-21-2010, 09:58 PM
Seen at 2010 Syracuse Nationals. Not so sure about the SB
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu126/ssffnomad/2010%20Syracuse%20Nationals/IMAG0429.jpg

Most likely ran on the Big Mile



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http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu126/ssffnomad/2010%20Syracuse%20Nationals/IMAG0428.jpg

DrakeBros
07-22-2010, 08:27 AM
You're right! Donovan Kempster ran that coupe as #100 at Islip, before selling it to Dave Horne, who had Richie Gomes race it as #X27. In the winter of 1970 I bought the car from Dave for $1800. NASCAR then changed the rules to not allow fuel injection, so we traded the small block for a big block and won the opening night feature, at Islip, with Bobby Holmberg behind the wheel of the 9A!
We won $500.
George M,

Thanks for your continued postings. You have so much history all of which brings back wonderful memories of growing up and spending sat nites at islip and hanging around the shop of Jimmy Reed. Please keep those memories coming. By the way, do you recall the name Bobby Packard?

Thanks again.

boldventure
07-22-2010, 09:23 AM
Slippery, ......,...well that's a start.....but why don't the pictures come up?

Your Sal Dee car looks great.

I know the pictures come up if click on the text but I want to eliminate that step.......need more help.

Thank You, Thank You, Denny Z

Denny, It looks like you uploaded PDF's. If you scanned old photos you should save the as JPG images then you can upload them and viewers will be able to click on them and they will come up a larger veiwable size.

monksfan
07-22-2010, 04:48 PM
This Lazzaro car has made it's home in Fort Hunter,New York,about 2 miles East of Fonda

George M.
07-22-2010, 07:36 PM
George M,

Thanks for your continued postings. You have so much history all of which brings back wonderful memories of growing up and spending sat nites at islip and hanging around the shop of Jimmy Reed. Please keep those memories coming. By the way, do you recall the name Bobby Packard?

Bob Packard...I definitely do remember the name. Maybe you can refesh my memory of him. And Jimmy Reed is a good buddy of mine. What a character. I still see him at Riverhead when I go, which is very rarely these days. George Meade

Denny Zimmerman
07-22-2010, 09:03 PM
Here we go again. Two pictures from the early Eastern Bandit days. One for sure at Old Bridge and I think both are Old Bridge. Denny Z

Denny Zimmerman
07-22-2010, 09:05 PM
Wow it worked.....Thanks Slippery and boldventure

The Bullfather
07-22-2010, 09:24 PM
awesome denny thanks for sharing.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingcrash1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldbridge.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/old_unknown_11.jpg

The Bullfather
07-22-2010, 09:25 PM
awesome denny thanks for sharing

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingmisc6.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingmisc4.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingmisc3.jpg

The Bullfather
07-22-2010, 09:26 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OldScrapBookStuff033.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OldScrapBookStuff032.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OldScrapBookStuff031.jpg

The Bullfather
07-22-2010, 09:27 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/olliesilva.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OllieS1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OllieWininGremlin.jpg

bcengines
07-22-2010, 11:13 PM
Racing is by nature a move forward sport.Everyone tries to get faster by getting a better car or engine.As an engine builder nobody ever comes in my shop not wanting more.Nobody wants a car that doesn't handle better.Racing is just a reflection of society like it or not.I miss building cars out of 1953 Chevys and mild hopped up L-88's.This is why pictures are so important,not when they are taken but years down the road when they are appreciated.I love looking at the pictures on this site reminding me of cars I watched and worked on.Back to work tomorrow trying to build a faster mousetrap!

JBull
07-23-2010, 02:06 AM
Nice to meet Jbull this weekend, wish we got more time to talk and wish I had more room up there too to move hahaha.

Been on vacation for a couple of weeks. Did start it off with a visit to Riverhead Raceway though. It was nice meeting the Bullfather as well. Hope to see him again in August and get a few more words in with him. I'll admit it was tought finding him. After all that was written about him, I was looking for a guy with a black patch over his eye, possibly a big black hat with a skull and crossbones, maybe some swashbuckling boots, a sword, a peg leg or possibly a hook where his right hand used to be. Lo and behold he was actually just an ordinary Joe sitting five feet away from me on the top row of the bleachers with his weapon of choice in his hand. No it wasn't a cannon it was his videocamera. Might have been a Canon? LOL

Great videos and stuff from race on your website. I took in the Jarzombek/Evans/Baldwin Memorial 77 lap Modified race that I missed as well.

Thanks,

JBull

some Islip and NJ action with the Harbachs...

Fred Harbach X90 with Jamie Tomaino #09 at Wall

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Lomg%20Island%20Photos/LIMods0012-1-2.jpg?t=1279868418


Fred with Billy Parks #20 in a cloud of smoke at Islip

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Lomg%20Island%20Photos/LIMods0012-1-1.jpg?t=1279868472

Fred and Gil Hearne #27 in traffic at New Egypt

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Lomg%20Island%20Photos/LIMods0011-1-1.jpg?t=1279868507

Fred With Tom Baldwin #7 at Islip

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Lomg%20Island%20Photos/LIMods0009-2-2.jpg?t=1279868575

Fred in son Alan's #89 racing with Tom McCann #16 at Islip

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Lomg%20Island%20Photos/LIMods0009-2-1.jpg?t=1279868614

Alan Harbach #89 racing with Don Howe #34 at Islip

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Lomg%20Island%20Photos/LIMods0012-2.jpg?t=1279868666

Joe Momalito #31 bouncing off of I believe Jim Kelly #22 with Fred Harbach #X90 looking on

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Lomg%20Island%20Photos/LIMods0006-1.jpg?t=1279868711

Terry1
07-23-2010, 03:16 AM
Check out the Gremlin in the background with a huge wing.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/olliesilva.jpg

DrakeBros
07-23-2010, 08:45 AM
Bob Packard...I definitely do remember the name. Maybe you can refesh my memory of him. And Jimmy Reed is a good buddy of mine. What a character. I still see him at Riverhead when I go, which is very rarely these days. George Meade
My dad bought a modified from Bob Packard and raced at Riverhead in the early 60's. I think Bob had raced with Jimmy Reed as I recall being told that Jimmy had something to do with the sale of the car to my dad. He sold it and stopped racing in 1964 because he ran a flathead and couldn't keep up with the sbc's. I saw my first race in riverhead when I was a baby and have fond memories of Jimmy dropping us off at our house after the races in Islip in his white jeep or his old ranchero. Truly great memories!!

moreoldstuff
07-23-2010, 12:01 PM
awesome denny thanks for sharing

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingmisc6.jpg
Carl Grinar in Omar Swift's 300 Vineland Speedway, N.J. 1957
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingmisc4.jpg
Bunky Higbee in Joe Tables 1Sr. Vineland Speedway 1963
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingmisc3.jpg
717 Dick Werchan, 95 Bill Wilson Vineland Speedway N.J. 1956

JBull
07-23-2010, 04:18 PM
Got a lot of good stuff going on the past few weeks....Bullfather is as steady as ever with his posts.... Dr. John is posting away again with all of the great shots of the upstate NY Mods....Denny Z is putting pictures up now....George Meade back in the swing of things....Rich Oakley dusting off some slides....RABs32 posting pictures again....Bones Bourcier chiming in on the thread (Pete,you'll enjoy the Bugsy and Flemke books like you did the Richie Evans book...all told in a slightly different perspective and all very interesting)....if I am not mixing names up, I used to read Bones' column in the Speedway Scene religiously each week entitled Modified Madness...great stuff....the Speedway Scene was a great paper: great coverage of the New England mods, LI, NJ, upstate, good columns, great pictures, a pull out section on the the Winston Cup, one day my subscription stopped coming and when I inquired as to why... the paper was out of business....what happened? the internet?....

Enough talk.... how about some upstate NY mods featuring George Kent....he won a ton of races in his career and a lot of big ones...the ROC...the Genesse 200....but he never seemed to quite make it to that top rung with Evans, Bodine,Troyer...does he still race?...I think his son JR still does....

A Fred Smith photo

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0018-1.jpg?t=1279919605


leading Richie Evans in the Cal Smales pinto #41

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0016-1.jpg?t=1279919605

leading the pack to the green in the Cal Smales pinto (at Martinsville?)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0015-2.jpg?t=1279919605

George Kent again in the Cal Smales pinto leading Geoff Bodine

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0013-1.jpg?t=1279919605

This time to the high side of Richie Evans going for the victory in the Cal Smales car

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0010-2.jpg?t=1279919605

JBull
07-23-2010, 04:37 PM
some more George Kent and company

in a familiar place

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0010-1.jpg?t=1279919605

An interesting shot that FlyanBrian or Dr. John might be able to comment on: Tom Forgione #50 in a mustang II?, Charlie Rudolph #12 in a Pacer? Dan Swain #44 in a Vega wagon...just shows the variety of cars and body styles back then and what was soon coming.......what some will call one of the "cookie cutter" cars: the Troyer Built #41 owned by Cal Smales and driven by George Kent passing them all on the outside (no offense to the Troyer Family)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0009-1.jpg?t=1279919605


And another interesting shot showing the modifieds of Tim Mislin #81 and George Kent #6 racing with a late model in joint events that I believe were in a Canadien/American Series....I believe they ran in joint events at Holland a lot, but I believe this is Lancaster

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0012-1.jpg?t=1279919605

George Kent in the #26 being chased by Greg Sacks in his former ride the Cal Smales #41
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0015-1.jpg?t=1279919605

Kent #26 and Sacks #41 again this time with Dan Mason in the #04 arrow and Tony Vecchio in the #1

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/KENT0017-1.jpg?t=1279919605


One of my favorite Kent Mods: the Mustang II bodied #26...not sure of the photographer

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Kent/zed2georgekent.jpg?t=1279919605

Flyin'Brian12
07-23-2010, 04:58 PM
Yes,#50 is a Mustang II and the 44 is indeed, a Vega wagon. Not sure about the 12, Dr. Jorn would know for sure. I only recall the Gremlin Charlie ran. I think at the time Charlie was running on dirt also. He was successful on both surfaces.

alleganyccr
07-23-2010, 06:35 PM
Can anybody tell me anything about (not sure of the spelling) Van's Speedway (or maybe just "Van") in Sheridan, NY? All I know is that it's not around any more.
Also- talked briefly to a man who has been following racing most of his life, seems like an encyclopedia, and probably has enough memorabilia to open his own museum. He's also flagged a few tracks- matter of fact, he was getting ready to go do that when I called him today. I don't remember the number, but he's been to over 100 tracks. Will be speaking with him again soon. He's going to give me all the infomation I need on a place called Johnnie Speedway (closed in 1967)- North Collins, NY.

Scott

RABs32
07-23-2010, 08:16 PM
Found these while uploading,from middletown late 70's early 80's .....Rich

RABs32
07-23-2010, 08:22 PM
Another batch....Rich

RABs32
07-23-2010, 08:28 PM
Final batch for tonite.....

sprintcar4j
07-24-2010, 07:17 AM
Final batch for tonite.....

Thats when Stock cars where cool Rich. I sure miss all those cars.

indybigjohn
07-24-2010, 10:41 AM
Back to the asphalt..again around the mid 60's. Another look for those Southern US cars, Alabama I believe:

http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/949/2626320890090944223S500x500Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2626320890090944223uCAMLR)

I think that's P.B. Crowell at Nashville.

The Bullfather
07-24-2010, 10:43 AM
how did the Late Models hold up to the Mods???

Thanks Rab for sharing, you could of easily just put them at the bottom of a lake, but you shared the stories of these great drivers...thank you so much for the photos you have posted, a lot of stuff we post is asphalt, but the driver used to switch back and forth before the chassis became fabricated instead of stock chassis that were worked on!

The Bullfather
07-24-2010, 10:44 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/kPg6JVu32DJ251.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/j5FQi77hgc3e5.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/hLCo2SQ118G04.jpg

The Bullfather
07-24-2010, 10:44 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OneEye_Ted_Color_Vergennes.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/olliewells.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/lPGs37Uii1Kf30.jpg

The Bullfather
07-24-2010, 10:45 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OrmieOHaraWaterford.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/Orlando_Pappas_1_smaller.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/ooossbourne.jpg

The Bullfather
07-24-2010, 10:46 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/os3Umy8LLgmI1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/ortiz2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OrmieWaterfordCoupe.jpg

RABs32
07-24-2010, 11:11 AM
how did the Late Models hold up to the Mods???

Thanks Rab for sharing, you could of easily just put them at the bottom of a lake, but you shared the stories of these great drivers...thank you so much for the photos you have posted, a lot of stuff we post is asphalt, but the driver used to switch back and forth before the chassis became fabricated instead of stock chassis that were worked on!
Bull father, Thanks! I've got another 20 to 30 more that I've found but my scanner FELL IN THE LAKE!!!!!or possible heat stroke? And as soon as it dries out or cools down I'll post the rest, BE MY GUEST AND BORROW AS MANY AS YOU WANT for any other uses you need them for, You have my OK and I don't even need to have the photo credits......Rich

The Bullfather
07-24-2010, 12:22 PM
hahah thanks Rab, I just post here nowhere else with photos. We're approaching a milestone and may reach it in a month or two, I'm also getting close to one soon too! This post has got to be in the top10 if not the top5 of all time posts on this site, a hot rodding site at that too!:O)

rjaustin421
07-24-2010, 02:14 PM
Post #6305 has Lou Reboli's # 4 racing out of Stony Brook LI. Lou owned the cars Gene Suizdak drove from 67 to 70 or so & now does fab work in Patchogue.

This car was initially driven by Joe Hassan but Joe got tired of the Sat nite pulls up to Orange County and Jeff Yascinsac started driving it. Jeff & Lou made a very strong competition in the 320 class at OC and Nazareth.

kholm65
07-25-2010, 11:51 AM
[QUOTE=The Bullfather;5463789]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OneEye_Ted_Color_Vergennes.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/olliewells.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/lPGs37Uii1Kf30.jpg
must be the secret engine in there, its all covered up!

kholm65
07-25-2010, 06:18 PM
[QUOTE=The Bullfather;5459111]awesome denny thanks for sharing.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingcrash1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldbridge.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/old_unknown_11.jpg
According to my friend Ed Duncan, some of the drivers in this Oct. 1955 Old Bridge photo are: 41 Tommy Elliott,104 Bill Chevalier,119 Ed Soden,30 Jim Hofer,212 Ben Nero,24 Chubby Hower,999 Joe Karanowski,48 Art Miller an 36 Bill Lanzaro.

The Bullfather
07-25-2010, 08:49 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/7235_269561120306_745475306_8531257_5683607_n.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/7235_269561100306_745475306_8531256_7279651_n.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/osj7MyxLLGnI34.jpg

The Bullfather
07-25-2010, 08:50 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/29076_1378119608110_1085478589_31184286_5636976_n. jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/22539_103943396299736_100000522282008_108944_69609 21_n.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/7235_269561140306_745475306_8531259_7627831_n.jpg

The Bullfather
07-25-2010, 08:51 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/34478_1484637166218_1542561687_1169690_3441824_n.j pg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/29076_1378125488257_1085478589_31184303_4803039_n. jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/29076_1378119648111_1085478589_31184287_2903115_n. jpg

The Bullfather
07-25-2010, 08:52 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/osj7Max4LGnI2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/os37MyxLLGmI53.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/38220_1420048859580_1183432584_31070271_2649333_n. jpg

kholm65
07-25-2010, 09:29 PM
Seymour the Clown

BillyTKidd
07-26-2010, 11:47 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/olliesilva.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OllieS1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/OllieWininGremlin.jpg

A Big thinks for more photos of the Big "O"!
Ollie was a always my favorite. He seemed to build cars that were low budget, but he always got them to handle.

EEZI
07-26-2010, 11:58 AM
I believe that is at Monadnock in about 1976 and the winged car was Bentley Warren, there for an open-competition show. Painted with stars and stripes which fits with the 1976.
Of course the #0 is Ollie Silva.

Check out the Gremlin in the background with a huge wing.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/olliesilva.jpg

Denny Zimmerman
07-26-2010, 07:00 PM
Bullfather, What track is that in post #6314? Denny Z

sprintcar4j
07-26-2010, 07:01 PM
Its Amazing how much stuff is lifted from Joe's site.

Captain History
07-26-2010, 08:06 PM
Scott -
Van's Speedway closed around 1960. It was 1/4-mile dirt oval located on a hill in Sheridan, NY. One of the big winners there was a driver named Tommy Black.

The Bullfather
07-26-2010, 09:08 PM
Denny, I could be wrong, but it might be Riverhead, can anyone confirm or deny this???

Ken_Schou
07-26-2010, 11:56 PM
Taken from the racershub.com
~~~~~~~~~~

Hinchliffe Stadium Racing Expo
This years show is shaping up to be the best one yet. The Pados brothers will be broadcasting their Carquest Gasoline Alley Show from the Stadium. DJ Joey Metro will again be deejaying the show. The Flemington Speedway Historical Society will be taking part in the show.

We have a wide array of vintage and modern day (Both open cockpit & stock) race cars taking part in the show and can accomodate more.

If you would like to take part in the show, please contact Ronny Dennis (718)344-0502. ---- It is FREE to enter the show.

This years show will take place on Sunday September 5, 2010.
Gates open to paticipants at 10 am
Show starts at 12 noon and runs all day
Admission is FREE.
The Hinchcliffe Old Timers segment of the show runs between 1pm-5pm

Hinchliffe Stadium is located in Paterson, N.J., on the corner of Liberty St. and Maple St. next to the Great Falls.

The future of Hinchliffe Stadium and the possibility of the return of auto racing to this historic facility is looking brighter than ever.

Come out and show your support for the Stadium. While your there you can check out the Great Falls Festival. There is something for everyone.

See you at the SHOW!
(Ron Dennis)

brian26
07-27-2010, 12:18 AM
Its Amazing how much stuff is lifted from Joe's site.


Spreading the gospel. Never heard of the site you refer to-I'm sure it's amazing.


But to be fair to the competitors, owners, and fans of cars like these(Which gave the photographer a reason to show up and take pictures), Goobers in the sticks like me can see these pictures for the first time.

Thanks to people like "Joe", that is happening.
Spread the gospel brother, spread the gospel.

retroridesbyrich
07-27-2010, 07:44 AM
Spreading the gospel. Never heard of the site you refer to-I'm sure it's amazing.


But to be fair to the competitors, owners, and fans of cars like these(Which gave the photographer a reason to show up and take pictures), Goobers in the sticks like me can see these pictures for the first time.

Thanks to people like "Joe", that is happening.
Spread the gospel brother, spread the gospel.

I think he means 3 Wide
http://www.3widespicturevault.com/index.html

Denny Zimmerman
07-27-2010, 08:11 AM
Bullfather, OK Thanks I couldn't place it but I never raced there. Denny Z

The Bullfather
07-27-2010, 11:48 AM
I haven't been to 3 wide in ages, good site and a good board. But this one is better it fulfills all my pirateeeee needs! You do find 3wide stuff all over the net though, they do have credit on their photos if it's from 3wide. ARRRRrrrrrrr

The Bullfather
07-27-2010, 11:50 AM
Denny it's not too late, we could get you behind the wheel of a vintage modified. We should get you in the old Flemke car with the stacks. Got a few buddies that have them, the old Rene Charland 888 and 7-10 Junior Ambrose coupe.

JBull
07-27-2010, 01:09 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/lPGs37Uii1Kf30.jpg
Is this a former Richie Evans Coupe painted over or just a similar paint scheme on this #24?

JBull

JBull
07-27-2010, 01:14 PM
Some more upstate NY Mods, etc...

Mark Newton #55 seemed to find the wall in a big way when he raced!

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0001-1.jpg?t=1280254221

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0001-2.jpg?t=1280254221

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0001-3.jpg?t=1280254221

The Swain Bros Vega Wagon looks neat, the crew even had matching uniforms!

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0006-1.jpg?t=1280254221

Bently Warren in the #77 Gremlin and Junior Hanley in the #2 camaro

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0006-2.jpg?t=1280254221

Captain History
07-27-2010, 02:36 PM
Is this a former Richie Evans Coupe painted over or just a similar paint scheme on this #24?

It was a Will Cagle #24 after it was an-ex Richie Evans ride.

brian26
07-27-2010, 03:33 PM
I think he means 3 Wide
http://www.3widespicturevault.com/index.html


When I first got on the 'net', I tried to go to 3 Wide sveral times. I wasn't used to being on a computer, and I bounced around until I found RFTP, and eventually from there, I found the HAMB. That is how I found my way here.

boldventure
07-27-2010, 03:41 PM
Some more upstate NY Mods, etc...

Mark Newton #55 seemed to find the wall in a big way when he raced!

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0001-1.jpg?t=1280254221

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0001-2.jpg?t=1280254221

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0001-3.jpg?t=1280254221

The Swain Bros Vega Wagon looks neat, the crew even had matching uniforms!

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0006-1.jpg?t=1280254221

Bently Warren in the #77 Gremlin and Junior Hanley in the #2 camaro

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Misc%20Mods/miscmods0006-2.jpg?t=1280254221

I remember Mark Newton's 55 stacked up on the front stretch of Spencer at least once.
Swain's car was pink too, or am I really losin' it?

Flyin'Brian12
07-27-2010, 04:09 PM
Swain's car was pink too, or am I really losin' it?
Well, kinda.My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think,originally, the car was yellow, with flurescent pink and blue stripes. They later had the car white,with the same scheme. Swain devoloped ceramics coatings for a company called "Henium", which led him to form his own company called "SwainTech". Car was very bright.

leadfoot4
07-27-2010, 05:59 PM
Well, kinda.My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think,originally, the car was yellow, with flurescent pink and blue stripes. They later had the car white,with the same scheme. Swain devoloped ceramics coatings for a company called "Henium", which led him to form his own company called "SwainTech". Car was very bright.


Actually, Brian, the coating that you're referring to was called "heanium", and the company was Heany Industries. Dan Swain was a lead engineer for them, before going out on his own.....

Denny Zimmerman
07-27-2010, 07:19 PM
Bullfather, You may not know this but I'm back in the saddle again Saturday nights at Whip City Speedway in Westfield MA. I'm 71 years old and having a ball. It's what they call a Quad 4 midget, a midget with a Oldsmobile Quad 4 motor on 1/4 mile dirt track, no wing.

Skip Matczak fields two Quad 4 midgets at Whip City, the primary one is driven by Joe Krawiec who has won quite a bit up there (he is a hard charger and has a great future in front of him) the second car a sister is a "guest car" for old farts like me from yesteryear. From time to time their will be other old farts but for now it's me.

This guest car is a winning car but it's been 38 years since I sat in a race car so it takes a while to get back in the groove....but I'm coming and having a ball.

Denny Z

Flyin'Brian12
07-28-2010, 07:37 AM
Thanks,leadfoot, I told you memory is "fuzzy".

Captain History
07-28-2010, 03:24 PM
Dan Swain's car in color

Captain History
07-28-2010, 03:34 PM
Dan Swain's Gremlin Modified #44 from 1976

The Bullfather
07-28-2010, 04:30 PM
colorful modifieds right there

leadfoot4
07-28-2010, 06:03 PM
Thanks,leadfoot, I told you memory is "fuzzy".



I doubt it's any fuzzier than any of the rest of us....there's a LOT of history here!!

ridin dirty
07-28-2010, 09:14 PM
Bullfather, You may not know this but I'm back in the saddle again Saturday nights at Whip City Speedway in Westfield MA. I'm 71 years old and having a ball. It's what they call a Quad 4 midget, a midget with a Oldsmobile Quad 4 motor on 1/4 mile dirt track, no wing.

Skip Matczak fields two Quad 4 midgets at Whip City, the primary one is driven by Joe Krawiec who has won quite a bit up there (he is a hard charger and has a great future in front of him) the second car a sister is a "guest car" for old farts like me from yesteryear. From time to time their will be other old farts but for now it's me.

This guest car is a winning car but it's been 38 years since I sat in a race car so it takes a while to get back in the groove....but I'm coming and having a ball.

Denny Z
Denny Send me your race schedule. It would be a kick to see one of the "Bandits" run. RD

Denny Zimmerman
07-28-2010, 09:31 PM
ridin dirty, Every Saturday night. $ 25 to get in the pits, $ 12 for grandstands. Warm ups start around 5 pm. Actually Go Carts from noon till 4 pm then warm ups around 5 pm. It's dirt and dusty, you will go home dirty. If weather appears to be a problem they usually cancel early you can check on their web site....whipcityspeedway.com or call 413-562-8092. Denny Z

ridin dirty
07-28-2010, 10:12 PM
It would be a gas!!!! Thanks for the info DZ. RD

moreoldstuff
07-29-2010, 06:35 AM
[QUOTE=The Bullfather;5459111]awesome denny thanks for sharing.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldracingcrash1.jpg
44 Al Tasnady 659 Sal Moschella Alcyon Speedway, Pitman, NJ 1957
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oldbridge.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/old_unknown_11.jpg

According to my friend Ed Duncan, some of the drivers in this Oct. 1955 Old Bridge photo are: 41 Tommy Elliott,104 Bill Chevalier,119 Ed Soden,30 Jim Hofer,212 Ben Nero,24 Chubby Hower,999 Joe Karanowski,48 Art Miller an 36 Bill Lanzaro.

44 Al Tasnady 659 Sal Moschella Alcyon Speedway, Pitman, NJ 1957

JBull
07-29-2010, 01:07 PM
Some shots of Bugs Stevens and others....

Bugs in the Armstrong #1 at Oxford Plains

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0012-2.jpg?t=1280426393

Bugs in the Brady #00 with Corky Cookman at Stafford

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0002-1.jpg?t=1280426393

Stacking them up at the Sizzler....Stevens #00, Ron Bouchard #3, Tom Baldwin #7, Ed StAngelo #19 in the air

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0012-1.jpg?t=1280426393

Stevens in the Brady #00 Battling Ron Bouchard in the #3

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0001-2.jpg?t=1280426393

Bugs in the #00 battling Ron Bouchard #7

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0001-1.jpg?t=1280426393

Bugsy #00 alongside Leo Cleary in the #48 Ford Escort or Rollie Linbladt

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0016-1.jpg?t=1280426393

JBull
07-29-2010, 01:18 PM
some more Bugs shots... not sure of the photographers on most

but I believe this is a John Grady photo of Bugs with the Boehler Camaro

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/LenBoehlerCamaro1970-600x416.jpg?t=1280426393

In Kozella's Log Roller

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/Corvair21-1.jpg?t=1280426393

In Kozella's Woodchopper I believe at Freeport

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/15bugscoupe-1.jpg?t=1280426393

In Kozella's Woodchopper I believe at Islip (Scibelli Bros. $7 Mustang driven by Al Deangelo in the background)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/15-1.jpg?t=1280426393

In Kozella's pinto

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/15.jpg?t=1280427470

kholm65
07-29-2010, 04:56 PM
[QUOTE=JBull;5482596]some more Bugs shots... not sure of the photographers on most

but I believe this is a John Grady photo of Bugs with the Boehler Camaro

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/LenBoehlerCamaro1970-600x416.jpg?t=1280426393

In Kozella's Log Roller

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/Corvair21-1.jpg?t=1280426393

In Kozella's Woodchopper I believe at Freeport

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/15bugscoupe-1.jpg?t=1280426393

In Kozella's Woodchopper I believe at Islip (Scibelli Bros. $7 Mustang driven by Al Deangelo in the background)

that one is not at Islip, I'm not sure where that is?



http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/15-1.jpg?t=1280426393

In Kozella's pinto

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/15.jpg?t=1280427470

The Bullfather
07-29-2010, 09:37 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/ot37NayMLHnJ46.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/ot37NayMLHnJ32.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oswego.jpg

The Bullfather
07-29-2010, 09:37 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/otk7NAy44Gn357.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/otk7NAy44Gn330.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/otisbrayton.jpg

The Bullfather
07-29-2010, 09:38 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/otk7NAy44Hn328.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/otk7Nay44Hn32.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/otk7Nay44GnJ47.jpg

The Bullfather
07-29-2010, 09:40 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oTKv40Yml2Nj8.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oTKv4AY442N320.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/oTkv4AY44HN355.jpg

George M.
07-30-2010, 10:28 PM
I haven't been to 3 wide in ages, good site and a good board. But this one is better it fulfills all my pirateeeee needs! You do find 3wide stuff all over the net though, they do have credit on their photos if it's from 3wide. ARRRRrrrrrrr

Another great thread...http://www.raceny.com/smf2/index.php?topic=2600.0

Not as good as this one of course ... LOL

JBull
08-01-2010, 01:29 AM
I had the pleasure of getting to know this driver on a personal level. My best friend's sister started dating Teddy Wenofske in the mid 70's. What a thrill it was for a 10 year old boy to see a race car driver over his best friend's house, have dinner with him on multiple occasions, have him coach his softball team, etc. Memories that never fade. The only trouble for Teddy was that I was a die hard Charlie Jarzombek fan and stubborn as a bull, so try as he may, he couldn't get me to switch my allegiance. I always told him if Charlie dropped out I would root for him and he had my vote in the late model division when he ran the Scibelli Bros # 3 Chevelle. My mom on the other hand was the only non Jarzombek fan in the family and in fact a big fan of Teddy's. We always sat on the top row at Islip in between the 4th turn and the starter's stand. My mom would yell down from the bleachers when she saw Teddy walking on the midway at Islip. She volunteered to take me to my friend's house every day!

Unfortunately Teddy got in a pretty serious wreck in the Conway superspeedway Hornet (I believe at Trenton in 1977) and suffered some head injuries and was never the same after that. My friend said Teddy told him he would have flashbacks while driving on the highway and he would wind up slamming on the brakes. I don't recall him driving in the mods much aftet that. I also believe he passed a way a few years ago, but I am not certain, so i don't want to spread false rumours.

Here some photos....

Teddy in a neat coach (I believe owned by Billy Auer)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0002-1.jpg?t=1280643717

An interesting shot of the Billy Auer pinto. I believe this appeared in the last page of an issue of Stock Car Magazine. Notice the female in this picture...I believe she may have gotten her bloomers blown off by the sleek mod...

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0002-2.jpg?t=1280643888

Teddy racing with George Tet in the Conway X9 (an owner Teddy would eventually drive for) and Buzzy Hedges in the #37 coupe

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0004-1.jpg?t=1280643976

And the car that would actually bring him a lot of attention ant the Islip track championship in 1974 the Raven Pinto owned by Billy Auer (I believe there was actually two identically prepared pintos) This shot is actually at Freeport

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0003-1.jpg?t=1280644092


And in victory lane at Islip

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0005-1.jpg?t=1280644142

JBull
08-01-2010, 01:40 AM
The raven pinto photo from Len Calinoff's stand

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0007-1.jpg?t=1280644270

the back of the photo

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0008-1.jpg?t=1280644306

Teddy in the Vinny Morabito owned #71 at the Vimco Riverhead Raceway

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0004-2.jpg?t=1280644410

Teddy in the Scibelli Bros pinto at Freeport, he was driving their Chevelle Late Model as well at the time...battling Fred Sipala in the X91
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0009-1.jpg?t=1280644496

The Scibelli Bros Chevelle that won like 11 out of 16 races that year but lost the track championship by like 4 points to this guy Paul Mauceri #41 (sorry for the non modified post)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0013-1.jpg?t=1280644672

And Teddy in the Frank Conway owned Cromwell Auto Body X9 Hornet at Freeport battling Artie Tappen's #14 Pontiac Astre

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0018-1.jpg?t=1280644733

Ken_Schou
08-01-2010, 07:32 AM
Teddy W. passed away a number of years ago, after an extended stay in the Veterans Administration Hospital here on Long Island, NY.

As John expressed, he was a real nice guy. One on the many that has been my pleasure to know over the years, in both stock car and open cockpit racing.

Brian C
08-01-2010, 05:08 PM
Unfortunately Teddy got in a pretty serious wreck in the Conway superspeedway Hornet (I believe at Trenton in 1977) and suffered some head injuries and was never the same after that.


September 1977 at the ROC at Pocono, the first year they ran it on the 2 1/2 mile track. I was shooting the race for Gater News.

He had a big hit in the tunnel turn. I remember Big Bob O'Rourke telling the drivers even before practice to make sure NOT to drive the place like it was a Saturday night track as they would find themselves in the (what was then) steel wall. I never did like Modifieds on a track that big.


You're right JBull, he never was the same. A damn shame

JBull
08-01-2010, 09:21 PM
All photos taken at Lancaster (NY) Speedway by Dave Burlingame.

Graeme Bolia, 1971


Graeme Bolia, 1971
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac244/chelseadagger73/z1-1.jpg

Merv Treichler, 1971


Merv Treichler (left) converses with Ray Hendrick
http://i904.photobucket.com/albums/ac244/chelseadagger73/z3-1.jpg

Pete Hayes 1975 or 1976



Some neat shots Dr. John!

Randomrodder
08-02-2010, 12:46 AM
September 1977 at the ROC at Pocono, the first year they ran it on the 2 1/2 mile track. I was shooting the race for Gater News.

He had a big hit in the tunnel turn. I remember Big Bob O'Rourke telling the drivers even before practice to make sure NOT to drive the place like it was a Saturday night track as they would find themselves in the (what was then) steel wall. I never did like Modifieds on a track that big.


You're right JBull, he never was the same. A damn shame

That is how I remember it also. I was there with my wife and I believe the BullFather was in our arms there. When we saw him enter the tunnel turn and then hit the wall we knew it was a bad hit. We could feel it in the pit of our stomach.

Half Fast Bob
08-02-2010, 02:25 AM
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0002-2.jpg?t=1280643888

An interesting shot of the Billy Auer pinto. I believe this appeared in the last page of an issue of Stock Car Magazine. Notice the female in this picture...I believe she may have gotten her bloomers blown off by the sleek mod...


I'm not sure where in the magazine that the above picture was placed, but I do remember the picture. The caption underneath when it appeared made me laugh. It explained a little about the car, and then asked - "how many of you noticed the naked girl in the picture?" For the record, I didn't see her until I reaed the caption. :confused:

Ken_Schou
08-02-2010, 08:37 AM
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0002-2.jpg?t=1280643888



I'm not sure where in the magazine that the above picture was placed, but I do remember the picture. The caption underneath when it appeared made me laugh. It explained a little about the car, and then asked - "how many of you noticed the naked girl in the picture?" For the record, I didn't see her until I reaed the caption. :confused:

BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!!!

Can't say if this was part of it or not (wasn't there & never saw it), but there were scenes of a porno movie (involving several modifieds) shot at the Islip (NY) Speedway.

From memory, the above car fits into the correct time frame.

They had first approached us at Riverhead, but we said NO WAY!!!

stock car mech
08-02-2010, 10:17 AM
The picture of Bugsy standing next to the coupe was taken at Stafford. In the picture of merv Treichler and Ray Hendrick the fellow to Merv's right is Clayton Mitchell, the chassis man side of Tant- Mitchell.

CoolHand
08-02-2010, 12:49 PM
BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!!!

Can't say if this was part of it or not (wasn't there & never saw it), but there were scenes of a porno movie (involving several modifieds) shot at the Islip (NY) Speedway.

From memory, the above car fits into the correct time frame.

They had first approached us at Riverhead, but we said NO WAY!!!

Bow Chicka Bow Wow

Boom Shicka Mow Mow

:D

This fits perfectly with my fourth stated purpose for the existence of racing cars:


A race car's primary reason for existence is to go from point A to point B via whatever route you choose, as quickly as possible. A very close second and third is to make a lot of noise and to look cool while doing so. I believe fourth is to make women's panties fall off shortly afterwards.


Modifieds apparently do this more efficiently than any other type of racing car.

Being a modified racer, this makes me very happy indeed. :D

jayvincent
08-02-2010, 01:28 PM
For those of us living far from the great state of NY... the Versus Channel will be broadcasting a series of NASCAR Modified races this season, starting with a 200 lap race from Riverhead last Saturday.

From their website:
"The inaugural appearance of NASCAR racing on VERSUS is set for Wednesday, Aug. 4 @ 7PM ET, with the Riverhead 200 NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour event from Riverhead (N.Y.) Raceway."

full schedule of events is on their website at: http://www.versus.com/blogs/nascar-whelen-modified-tour/nascar-whelen-modified-tour-schedule/

I don't know if the surround-sound will go loud enough to make it an authentic experience for the kids, but I'm gonna try! Please, no spoilers from those of you lucky enough to have been there in person.

ganga
08-02-2010, 04:38 PM
What cable system broadcasts Versus??

neal78
08-02-2010, 05:00 PM
Bullfather: some of the photo spaces are blank where there should be a picture you posted...Is it my connection? or a problem with the site? Thanks!! Neal

canman
08-02-2010, 05:26 PM
BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!!!

Can't say if this was part of it or not (wasn't there & never saw it), but there were scenes of a porno movie (involving several modifieds) shot at the Islip (NY) Speedway.

From memory, the above car fits into the correct time frame.

They had first approached us at Riverhead, but we said NO WAY!!! I do remember them filming a movie at Isilp. As I recall it was a special event like a Permatex race or something like that,late in the season. I didn't know it was a porno but could have been.

The Bullfather
08-02-2010, 08:00 PM
for those who are impatience you can watch the highlights for the WMT200 on my site

photos should be there nothing wrong with photobucket

#99 Vintage Racer
08-02-2010, 09:25 PM
For DirecTV users. Versus is channel #603. Enjoy the races. I know I will!!!!!!

Ken_Schou
08-02-2010, 11:24 PM
I do remember them filming a movie at Isilp. As I recall it was a special event like a Permatex race or something like that,late in the season. I didn't know it was a porno but could have been.

If I remember correctly, the one I'm talking about was done during the week .. when the track was quiet & there was almost no one around. Only certain scenes from that skin flick were filmed there.

canman
08-03-2010, 06:25 AM
If I remember correctly, the one I'm talking about was done during the week .. when the track was quiet & there was almost no one around. Only certain scenes from that skin flick were filmed there.Probably different movie. This was some kind of special event a lot of out of town guys. I remember Duffy's coupe being there that day. Boy getting old is not for sissies. I have to keep looking in my wallet to remember who I am.

#99 Vintage Racer
08-03-2010, 07:55 AM
Does anybody remember the name of the movie (skin flick). I wonder if I could find a copy? A little skin, a little racing, aut to be a good movie!!!!!!!

neal78
08-03-2010, 06:23 PM
Checked Tuesday nite...All the pics seemed to load!! Thanks!! Too all: Great pics & chats!! Thanks for sharing, Neal

canman
08-03-2010, 06:44 PM
Dr. John in all reallity that ones probably not about late models either.

BKHRS
08-04-2010, 05:29 AM
I remember one back in the eighties, Fast Cars and Fast Women. While they were doing their thing, we were trying to figure out who owned the racecars and forgot about them LOL.

Barry

Brian C
08-04-2010, 08:50 AM
Boy getting old is not for sissies. I have to keep looking in my wallet to remember who I am.

I keep looking in my wallet too. Only problem is I keep thinking my name is "genuine cowhide" :eek:

Ken_Schou
08-04-2010, 10:47 AM
Originally Posted by canman http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/hamb/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5499369#post5499369)
Boy getting old is not for sissies. I have to keep looking in my wallet to remember who I am.

I keep looking in my wallet too. Only problem is I keep thinking my name is "genuine cowhide" :eek:

I know what you both speak of .. ALL TOO WELL!!!

modifieddriver
08-04-2010, 12:48 PM
[QUOTE=Ken_Schou;5503831]Originally Posted by canman http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/hamb/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5499369#post5499369)
Boy getting old is not for sissies. I have to keep looking in my wallet to remember who I am.



That must mean my name is "Made In China"

The Bullfather
08-04-2010, 01:35 PM
I must be Randy Couture, because his company made my wallet, before that I was Vans.

Frasson118
08-04-2010, 04:51 PM
For all you guys that appreciate the Northeast Modifieds, you should consider joining us at the 2011 Modified Reunion, held during Florida Speedweeks in February (same day as the Richie Evans Memorial at New Smyrna Speedway). Details will be coming later in the year, but as a sample of who you might see there, here is just a small sample of drivers/owners that have made it in the first 3 years:

Bugs Stevens
Bill Wimble
Ron Bouchard
Will Cagle
Dutch Hoag
Gene Bergin
Chuck Boos
Ed Ortiz
Doug Heveron
George Summers
Satch Worley
Jimmy Winks
Bob Garbarino (Mystic Missle #4)
Bob Judkins (2x Pinto, father of the Pinto Revolution... there have been 2 re-creations of the 2x entered in the Vintage Modified portion of the show)
Billy Harman
Bill Spade
Gene Bergin
Jim McGraw
Don Turner (Turner Bros. #18)
Stan Freisen
Jerry Dostie
Andy Romano
Ron Narducci....

And over 100 other racers from the past have been there... sharing stories & telling lies...! Plus, there have been over 30 different Vintage Mods that have displayed & turned some laps on the high banks at New Smyrna.

If anyone would like to get on the e-mail list for the updates as things get closer, please drop me a line, and I will get the info to you.

Keep in mind.... this event is 100% FREE, plus the Speedway will allow 2 Grandstand passes for all former Drivers/Owners/Officials that participate, into that nights Richie Evans Memorial race, plus 4 other classes.

Please respond to:

jbinner@att.net
or
Jerry Binner
407-790-9724

Hope to see another great turnout of Legands & Fans in February of 2011...!!!!

Frasson118
08-04-2010, 05:05 PM
Just found this pic on another page. Nearly all the drivers in this photo were at the previous reunions:
Ed Ortiz
Pete hayes
Bill Brainard
Mike Loescher
Chuck Boos

Frasson118
08-04-2010, 06:22 PM
A few Vintage Cars that have been at the Reunion(s):

A Bob Polverari Coupe owned by Larry Larivee

Frasson118
08-04-2010, 06:35 PM
Geoff Yoder in a Richie Evans original Pinto. He also owns an Evans Cavalier.

George Pavlisko in the Z-8

Frasson118
08-04-2010, 06:39 PM
Marty Van Drutens Pinto, also an original, was built by Maynard Troyer, and driven by Gil Hearne

Frasson118
08-04-2010, 06:41 PM
Marty's other car, which he says will be in Florida in February, is another Troyer built, Hearne driven creation. This one was owned by Jim Soucy, who also attends the Reunion

Frasson118
08-04-2010, 06:46 PM
I like this shot just for the fact it is NOT a Black & White photo. It must have taken a LOT of effort to REMOVE all the colors that would normally be on a racecar.

I realized it WAS a color picture, only after seeing another shot of this car, in which the rest of the pack IS in color.

Frasson118
08-04-2010, 06:57 PM
Another Bob Judkins owned 2x. This one originally piloted by the late, great Eddie Flemke. This thing runs like a bat-outta-hell, and was driven this night by Judkins' Grandson, Tour Mod standout, Ryan Preece.

Denny Zimmerman.... if your reading this, you HAVE to come!!!

As I said in a prior post, if you'd like to get e-mail updates as this event (4th Annual) gets closer, please e-mail me and I will send updates as they happen.

jbinner@att.net
Jerry Binner
407-790-9724

Denny Zimmerman
08-04-2010, 08:15 PM
Frasson118, I just now put it on my calendar. See ya there. Denny Zimmerman

JBull
08-05-2010, 02:02 AM
Another Bob Judkins owned 2x. This one originally piloted by the late, great Eddie Flemke. This thing runs like a bat-outta-hell, and was driven this night by Judkins' Grandson, Tour Mod standout, Ryan Preece.

Denny Zimmerman.... if your reading this, you HAVE to come!!!

As I said in a prior post, if you'd like to get e-mail updates as this event (4th Annual) gets closer, please e-mail me and I will send updates as they happen.

jbinner@att.net
Jerry Binner
407-790-9724


Great Stuff and thanks for the info Jerry

JBull
08-05-2010, 02:11 AM
Some more Teddy Wesnofske shots, don't think they will stir up as much banter as the bare bottomed races....

Teddy in the pinto that preceded the raven pinto
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/dcoteislip4.jpg?t=1280991904

The raven pinto at speed at Islip (Don Cote photo)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/16speedpinto.jpg?t=1280991943

In the Cromwell Hornet short track version

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0006-1.jpg?t=1280992035

I think this is actually George Wagner in the Hornet (yellow firesuit)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/georgewagneratdaytona.jpg?t=1280992087

The Cromwell Team Cars driven by Teddy (hornet) and George Wagner (vega) in 1976

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0013-2.jpg?t=1280992217

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0011-1.jpg?t=1280992246

JBull
08-05-2010, 02:25 AM
The Superspeedway version of the Hornet that Teddy actually wrecked in at Pocono....I believe the first shot was taken at Dover...the car had some flared rear fenders and a corvette-like snout

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0019-1.jpg?t=1280992412

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/Wesnofskehornet.jpg?t=1280992505

The Cromwell Chevette that Teddy piloted during the 1977 season...a couple of wins and the one lap track record holder for a while 12:49?...the car was later driven by Gary Winters and George Wagner III...

I believe the rest of these photos are by Brian Cholerton...

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0018-2.jpg?t=1280992564

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0009-2.jpg?t=1280992735

Racing midget stand out Johnny Coy in the #43

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0010-1.jpg?t=1280992759


Not a good night!


http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0011-2.jpg?t=1280992806

Racing Jacques Martin aka Jackie Reinhardt. I believe the #83 was a Charlie Siebert built/owned Mustang II

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0012-1.jpg?t=1280992824

in victory lane



http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0015-1.jpg?t=1280992954

battling Tommy Baldwin in the Butch Mecieka owned #18 Bobcat

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0016-2-1.jpg?t=1280992972

Tommy Baldwin in the Butch Mecieka owned #18 Bobcat

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Teddy%20Was/scan0014-1.jpg?t=1280993095

Randomrodder
08-05-2010, 03:02 AM
Good job JBull.

modifieddriver
08-06-2010, 01:04 PM
Had Cagle and his wife, Barb, over to the house last night and showed him this picture.

It is a Richie Evans car that Cagle bought from him, less engine.

We're both pretty sure the track pictured is Langhorne.

Will ran the car a handful of times. Said he didn't like the way it handled. It didn't match Will's driving style. He praised Evans and his driving ability to make it work.

Will said it was a straight front axle car with split radius rods and the Flemke spring set-up. Will left it Evans signature orange with the V-ed black stripes but changed the car number to #24.

Apparently Evans had some pretty potent power plants, 'cause Cagle said his replacement engine was way down on power and might've been a significant factor in changing the cars handling.

Cagle said Evans used to go into the corners about wide open and must've burped the throttle momentarily to get the car turned, was back on the gas again and was gone.
I think Will said he used the car in a few All-Star Racing League races on asphalt.

Barb told me who they sold it to, but i can't remember. Without Will's coaching, after she looked at the picture, she said, "Oh that's the car we bought from Evans. Will didn't like that car." So that confirmed Will's story.

AND, the cover over the engine was a Cagle trademark. He said he always did that to keep the other racers off balance. In this case the engine wasn't anything special.

I'll say this about Cagle, his memory is sharp.

He drove us out to dinner. Think I'll drive next time. I'll have to buy a car with a back seat. He's terrible :eek: .


http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/july%202010/lPGs37Uii1Kf30.jpg

sunfighter
08-06-2010, 05:43 PM
"Apparently Evans had some pretty potent power plants, 'cause Cagle said his replacement engine was way down on power and might've been a significant factor in changing the cars handling."

I don't know if anyone ever built more power into a motor than Hutter:)

retroridesbyrich
08-06-2010, 07:48 PM
"Apparently Evans had some pretty potent power plants, 'cause Cagle said his replacement engine was way down on power and might've been a significant factor in changing the cars handling."

I don't know if anyone ever built more power into a motor than Hutter:)

Back then, I don't think Hutter was building Richie's engines.

Randomrodder
08-08-2010, 12:40 AM
Back then, I don't think Hutter was building Richie's engines.

Rich, I got a PM from Jimmy Hendrickson Jr. I am not even sure he knows of this thread. He didn't have any posts. Hopefully he's been lurking.

Oh, BTW, I was at a BBQ today with Irene, my old secretary from the magazine, she sends her love. We might be going back tomorrow.

OK, Back on topic. :D

katman43
08-08-2010, 07:21 AM
Just read this morning (8/8/10) that Jackie Wilson passed away. If I did it correctly, I attached his obit (Reading Eagle, Reading PA) and 3 photos. The photos were snapped at Reading in 1972, 2 by me and one I bought.

John "Jack" Wilson, 61, passed away Tuesday, Aug. 3, 2010, at Reading Hospital surrounded by family, his wife of 42 years, Sally, his son, John Wilson, his daughter, Saunja, his son-in-law, Vince Vicari, and their six children: Andrew, Molly, Lindy, Peter, Natalee and Ellee. His sister, Lucille and brother-in-law, Jim Cronin, and their children were also present.

Jack was born in Newburgh, N.Y., a son of John and Elizabeth Wilson.
Jack graduated from New York Military Academy as Company Commander. He was awarded the President's Medal for excellence.
Jack's bachelor's degree was earned at Valley Forge Christian College and his master's degree was earned at the Assembly of God Theological Seminary in Springfield, Mo. He received his doctorate in human behavior from Honolulu University.
Dr. Wilson touched many lives as he ministered for over 25 years. Along with his wife, Sally, they founded two churches, a live weekly television show, "Let's Talk with Jack and Sally," and church-related radio broadcasts.
Wilson was President of Calvary Bible College in Jacksonville, Fla.
He developed, taught and wrote numerous articles on biblical understandings of human behavior.
He and his family returned to Reading in 1993.
A national quarter midget champion, Jack Wilson had a famed racing career known throughout the East Coast in modified stock cars. An infrequent, yet popular competitor at the Reading Fairgrounds, Wilson primarily made his mark at his home track in New York's Lebanon Valley Speedway.
He recently consulted for a number of micro-sprint teams and tutored drivers, including his son in past years, to become strong competitors.
Last May, Dr. Wilson founded and organized God's Air Force, incorporating hot air balloons on the National Day of Prayer over the city of Reading. Ministers from the Council of Churches joined in the celebration.
Services were private. Walter R. Christ Funeral Home Inc., Laureldale, was in charge of arrangements. For online condolences, visit www.christfuneralhome.com (http://www.christfuneralhome.com/).

Moselli
08-09-2010, 08:52 PM
Back then, I don't think Hutter was building Richie's engines.

We got to know Richie Evans fairly well when we ran at Shangri La in Owego, New York in 1970, '71 and '73. One of the things that set Richie apart from the other "shoes" of the day was his willingness to share information with others.

The big block Chevrolet motors were king at that time and most favored the 427 cubic inch motors. If I recall correctly from conversations with Richie, his motors were built at B&M in Rochester and were 95% over-the-counter Chevrolet perfomance parts. The Corvette L-88 aluminum open chamber heads were as good as anything on the market. I believe Richie said that the cam, Mag, rockers and the intake were the only aftermarket parts in his motors.

The biggest issue with the 427 was the forged steel crankshafts. Most of the cranks from the factory were not straight and had what was known as an "S" bend in them. Suitable for street use, they would tend to score the main bearings when turned at the upper range of RPM's on the ovals. The good motor builders at the time knew how to machine the cranks and align bore the blocks to remove the bend and let the motor live at high Revs. I heard stories that some of the builders actually could physically straigten the cranks but I don't know if this was true. My sense is that B&M knew how to machine, balance and blueprint the motors better than anyone else at the time.

Richie was also pretty tight with Firestone Tires at this time and I'm not sure he sent his best tires with the car when he sold it to Cagle...

Some others may want to tag on to my note with more detail.

Regards,

Moselli

neal78
08-10-2010, 04:11 AM
Katman43: Thanks for the info. Jackie raced at Leb. Valley when we saw him race. His 6 cylinder motor had a turbo that whistled. thus the name--Whistlin' Wilson...He wasn't very old:-(( Neal

BillyTKidd
08-10-2010, 04:55 AM
Katman43: Thanks for the info. Jackie raced at Leb. Valley when we saw him race. His 6 cylinder motor had a turbo that whistled. thus the name--Whistlin' Wilson...He wasn't very old:-(( Neal

I remember the nick-name, but didn't know where it came from. I think I came along a few years later.
Thanks for that bit.

Dans28Tdr
08-10-2010, 06:54 AM
For those interested in seeing some vintage oval cars there will be a show in Fort Worth Texas at Cowtown Speedway on August 21st. Right now we have 23 cars registered. There will be Modifieds, Super Modifieds, Sprint and Midgets. I will be there. This event is the first track event for Vintage Texas Open Wheel a new club in Texas to preserve the history of racing in and around Texas. My car will be there.
Thanks,
Dan

Frasson118
08-10-2010, 12:10 PM
Dan... that car in your profile... did you get that from Bill McPeek (or possibly JT Dunn)? That car was at a few of my Reunions

Frasson118
08-10-2010, 12:15 PM
This car is a rebuilt Jim Shampine original, now owned by David Hollinger in Titusville, FL. The rest of the sheet metal work has been attached

This car should also be at the Modified Reunion on February 18th, 2011 at New Smyrna (FL) Speedway.

Frasson118
08-10-2010, 12:16 PM
Don't know how I lost the picture...

Frasson118
08-10-2010, 12:20 PM
Another Bob Judkins 2x that that will be at the Modified Reunion.

If you'd like to be added to the e-mail list, please e-mail or call me to get future updates as they happen...

Modified Reunion
Friday, February 18th, 2011
New Smyrna Speedway

Jerry Binner
407-790-9724 or jbinner@att.net

Dans28Tdr
08-10-2010, 01:12 PM
Jerry,

Yes that was the car that was owned by Bill and JT. I'm Ralph's oldest son and I purchased it from JT last February. It's in Texas now. My plan is to make the February DAARA event every year. I hope to see you there.

Dan Carlsen
98 Racing

JoeRacer
08-10-2010, 05:47 PM
If I remember right Jackie Wilson and Frank Mears ended up in a fiery crash at Rolling Wheels Speedway in 1974. Is this the same Jackie Wilson?

katman43
08-10-2010, 08:12 PM
JoeRacer: That was Jackie Wilson in the firey crash. If I remember, he missed the rest of the season because of the injuries he had.

Neal78: It was funny to me that he settled in this area (Reading, PA). I remember him only in the early part of the season because Reading usually opened eralier than most (mid March). He also came on special shows. He eventually became an official at the Reading Fairgrounds in it's last seasons. I assume that's when his daughter got with Vince Vicari. I spoke to Vince & his wife numerous times over the years and never realized she was Jackie Wilson's daughter.
Jackie was also running a snow cone or water ice stand at Kutztown on the Wednesday night racing shows. My buddy was wondering why he wasn't there last Wednesday. I guess we know now.
He certainly was a good, competitive racer........

yvan lacroix
08-10-2010, 10:14 PM
Here was the scene in Granby on the 30th of July, we race again this Saturday at the Riverside Speedway in Quebec.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_gMiiQ1fQvz0/TFeYlDuVjQI/AAAAAAAArHM/_jZRtcj2vNs/s800/DSC01942.jpg

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r179/repare-brise/CIMG3648.jpg

Dans28Tdr
08-11-2010, 09:43 AM
Yvan,

It looked like a great time. How's the 123 running?

Dan

The Bullfather
08-11-2010, 03:30 PM
Hey folks I'm back, been awhile, busy busy busy time of year for me! Mike Adaskaveg wanted me to give a shout out for his photos, I've used here on the H.A.M.B., he wanted to let all the fellas from Stafford and the Northeast that he is still around doing photos! Thank you Mike for the coverage you brought to us and stories that can still be told here! http://mikeadaskaveg.com/MIKEADASKAVEG.COM/Welcome.html

Thank you to guys like Howie Hodge who still doing photos also and Peter Lawlor, who son, Fran is now doing photos and to all the guys I haven't mentioned. THANK YOU!

The Bullfather
08-11-2010, 03:32 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/Otter_Creek_Beaver_Heat1_smaller.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/Otter_Creek_Action_FoleyLeads_Mackey_Rock_Castine. jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/oTKv40Yml2Nj24.jpg

The Bullfather
08-11-2010, 03:33 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/p73Wob0NMh5K49.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/p7Kw408mm25j33.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/ozandtrech.jpg

The Bullfather
08-11-2010, 03:34 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/P1Corey.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/P5160041.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/p73Wob0NMh5K59.jpg

The Bullfather
08-11-2010, 03:34 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/park.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/PappyLapierre.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/pacelap.jpg

Denny Zimmerman
08-11-2010, 08:19 PM
Hey Folks, I can't remember if this was posted before or not but......Gene Bergin is in the hospital and I'm sure he would appreciate some cards from us.

The address is.....Gene Bergin
c/o Elizabeth McLaughlin
PO Box 2334
Flagler Beach FL 32136

As I understand Elizabeth is his granddaughter.

Thanks All, Denny Z

Randomrodder
08-11-2010, 11:25 PM
Thanks Denny.

Thanks Pete, feels good to right click and save again.

BillyTKidd
08-12-2010, 07:37 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/Otter_Creek_Action_FoleyLeads_Mackey_Rock_Castine. jpg



Thanks for the post, I have been trying to remember the name of this place for a while now.
I remember going there as a kid, but it was actuall Rainbow Ridge by then. I think it was 72-75 when we used to go.
The family would pack a picnic, some lawn chairs and blankets for us kids to sit on.
Otter Creek (http://www.catamountstadium.com/an_original_program_from.htm)

The Bullfather
08-12-2010, 04:19 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/ParkerBohn.jpg
love some of the Ceo's in the back
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/parkandharbach.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/39976_1441867298745_1594968996_1050318_5958515_n.j pg

The Bullfather
08-12-2010, 04:20 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/paulmiller.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/PaulMartell.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/paulKeddy.jpg

The Bullfather
08-12-2010, 04:21 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/PaulRaford.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/PaulRadford26RichieEvans61RayHendrick1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/PaulRadford26-600x416.jpg

The Bullfather
08-12-2010, 04:22 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/paulrr.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/PaulRichardsonA1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/paulrichardson1.jpg

monksfan
08-14-2010, 04:04 PM
Some Lazzaro photos,or at least my first attempt at it.

monksfan
08-14-2010, 04:08 PM
a few more Lou Lazzaro shots....

monksfan
08-14-2010, 04:17 PM
Fonda stars! Lape Lazzaro

ANDEREGG TRIBUTE
08-15-2010, 10:31 PM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495831

if any of y'all havent seen my lil creation....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/slopoke21m/1-Super/100_2774.jpg

ganga
08-16-2010, 09:18 PM
Nicely done

JBull
08-17-2010, 12:43 AM
One of the top 10 coolest mods of all time: the Hemi-Cuda of Ed Cloce and Jean Guy Chartrand

Tangling with Bugs Stevens at Albany Saratoga

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0001-1-1.jpg?t=1282023222

At Speed

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/chratrand69cudamod1.jpg?t=1282023305

standing still Joe Cryan photo

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/j51Qi76hgb3e56.jpg?t=1282023623

looping it

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0001-1-2.jpg?t=1282023683

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0001-2.jpg?t=1282023720


http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0005-3.jpg?t=1282023770


http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0005-4.jpg?t=1282023748

JBull
08-17-2010, 12:49 AM
John Grady Photos at Shangri La 1972

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/ShangriLa1972-600x429-1.jpg?t=1282023888

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/HemiCuda1972-600x422-1.jpg?t=1282023909

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0001-3.jpg?t=1282023943

At Pocono at Speed with Jerry Cook #38, Maynard Troyer #6 and others in pursuit. By the angle of Troyer's right front tire, he looks like he is in trouble.

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0005-5.jpg?t=1282023968

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0005-2.jpg?t=1282024085

a common view for a few racers of that era

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/zed-65.jpg?t=1282024137

JBull
08-17-2010, 12:58 AM
Guy Chartrand #69 at speed with Mike Loescher

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0007-3.jpg?t=1282024426

at speed

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0007-2.jpg?t=1282024485

at speed again

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0007-1.jpg?t=1282024518

a turn 5 photo

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/8-23-05JGChartrandOswego1972.jpg?t=1282024561

Don Cote photo?

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/69chartrand_a.jpg?t=1282024606

possibly at Stafford
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/Chartrand_Cuda_ArnieAinsworth.jpg?t=1282024635

JBull
08-17-2010, 01:04 AM
Guy Chartrand, I believe tangling with Chuck Boos

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0005-1.jpg?t=1282024752

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/zedd-56.jpg?t=1282024907

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/03_08_03_069_CHA_UNK_0075_1_small.jpg?t=1282024998

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/a1JeanGuyChartrandHemiCudaLanghorne.jpg?t=12820250 31

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/c02_11_06_069_SHA_UNK_0070_1_small.jpg?t=128202506 7

shamrock 3x
08-17-2010, 07:22 AM
JBull,
That's not Chuck Boos, although I can't tell you who it actually is. Boos always had 3 window coupes.

modifieddriver
08-17-2010, 07:26 AM
I watched the Hemi-Cuda on Friday nights at Albany/Saratoga. I liked it so much I built my first modified using a 'Cuda body.

I did it a bit different. I shortened the rear quarters and kept the distinctive rear deck lid and chrome trim.

I made a bunch of $dough$ racing in Canada with this car in '75.

Has a 400 SBC, that I bought from Kenny Tremont Sr., in it here, but I later changed to a 454.

Mike Britton
08-17-2010, 10:09 AM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=495831

if any of y'all havent seen my lil creation....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v153/slopoke21m/1-Super/100_2774.jpg

Nice Super!! I'm guessing you guys have a Supermod series there in Nevada? Don't know if we have one close to us in N.Tex. Would be fun to see Supers run again. Mike

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:32 PM
A shot of me and Will CAgle at the 2009 Modified Reunion

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:34 PM
The Richard Bowser owned, former Bob Krollage Coupe that has the unique distinction of being the last Coupe raced on Long Island...

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:37 PM
Shirley & Ken Morden come all the way from Canada to join us each year...

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:39 PM
Rhoda & Tim Blackie brought their former Roland LaPierre 134 out. Rhoda is the daughter of the late - Sammy Packard, who was an early Nascar pioneer.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:42 PM
A tribute to Tommy Elliott is owned by John Clark. For those who didn't know, the "original" XL-1 was so numbered because it stood for "Experimental Lincoln - 1".

This car is what a REAL modified is supposed to sound like. It's music to my ears!

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:43 PM
Mark Reardon brought his Coupe from NY. If memory serves, this is a former Brightbill-Krietz chassis.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:44 PM
John McGarvey's tribute to Richie Evans

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:46 PM
Larry Larivee's tribute to Bob Polverari. Larry now has a Cavalier that is also a tribute to Polverari. The award-winning Coupe has been sold and moved to New England.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:50 PM
How's this for a Hall of Fame group...!

Left to right are:

Ray Miller
Bugs Stevens
Gene Bergin
Bill Wimble
Leo Cleary
Bill Harman

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:52 PM
Gordie Wood in his original GMC-6, that he won the Weedsport Speedway Championship in 1962... the year I was born!

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:53 PM
Bob Williams was one of the original owners & builders of Woodhull Raceway in NY. That track is among the best attended and successful tracks in the country.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:55 PM
John Fodrowski owns this 1937 Ford, that was once raced by Cotton Owens.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:56 PM
JT Dunns (at the time) 1937 Plymouth, which has since been bought by another HAMB'er, and moved out West.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:58 PM
When is the last time you saw a Hudson Terraplane built into a Modified? This one was owned by Gordy Bird, but has since been sold to (I believe) Eric Orewiler.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 02:59 PM
Barry Roy and his street-legal Coupe

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 03:02 PM
Geoff Yoder in his Richie Evans original Cavalier. He also owns an Evans Pinto and a former Larry Kline - Schenk/O'Shea Dirt Mod, numbered "A".

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 03:03 PM
Gene Vitiello in his Pinto Mod. Looks to me like a Troyer chassis, but don't know for sure.

Unfortunately, we lost Gene just a few short weeks before the 2010 Reunion.

RIP Gene!!!!!

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 03:09 PM
Bill McPeek car. Unfortunately, I don't know much about it's story.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 03:13 PM
A cool yesterday-and-today shot.

Evans & Flemke on top, Geoff Yoder & Tobi Smith on the bottom

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 03:15 PM
Another cool one. Gene Bergin leaning in the window with Eddie Flemke, and later Gene leans in on Tobi Smith.

Frasson118
08-17-2010, 03:17 PM
Bob Judkins tightens the right rear on the original 2x car, and also the tribute 2x. There are close to 30 years between these shots!

JBull
08-18-2010, 01:09 AM
Some more Chartrand and the hemi cuda....

in a pack with Eddie Pienezak #3, Blake Carnahan #00, George Kent #26, Graeme Bolia #15 and Dean Hoag #77

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0006-1.jpg?t=1282111470

in a pack at Trennto I believe with Fred Harback #89, Bob Wearing #40, Bob Potter #4, Max Berrier #12 and Merv Treichler #58

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0006-2.jpg?t=1282111568


not sure who is in the #44 and #93

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0006-3.jpg?t=1282111662


http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/xx-30.jpg?t=1282111739

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/xx-21.jpg?t=1282111759

JBull
08-18-2010, 01:17 AM
Jean Guy Chartrand in the #69 going to the outside for the 100 lap win...

racing with Bob Sweeney #42, Bob Merz #18, and the # 50 of Sonny Seamon

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0009-1.jpg?t=1282111846

I believe at the Stafford Spring Sizzler going around the #0 of Ollie Silva

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0009-2.jpg?t=1282111951

in Guy in victory lane

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0009-3.jpg?t=1282112012

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/shampine75.jpg?t=1282112090

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/JG20Chartrand201972Bill20Dudley-1.jpg?t=1282112155

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/J_Guy_Chartrand69_1974.jpg?t=1282112215

JBull
08-18-2010, 01:24 AM
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/GUY.jpg?t=1282112355

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/Fan20Pick2069.jpg?t=1282112374

And then on to the Jim Shampine years in the Ed Cloce #69 in what I believe is a Dodge Colt

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/shampine.jpg?t=1282112502


Looks like snow in the background
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/shampinecolt.jpg?t=1282112564



http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/Jim_Shampine69_1977_001.jpg?t=1282112637

JBull
08-18-2010, 01:44 AM
Some more Bugs Stevens

In the Joe Brady #00 dicing it out with John Rosati, Richie Evans #61 and Ron Bouchard in the MH Racemaster #7

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0003-1.jpg?t=1282113365

Bugs leaning on the Joe Brady #00

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0003-2.jpg?t=1282113462

Bugs in victory lane

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0003-3.jpg?t=1282113494

Bugs in the Brady #00 racing John Rosati again

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0003-4.jpg?t=1282113518

Bugs in the Brady #00 racing Ed St. Angelo #19 at the Cement Palace (Seekonk)

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0004-2.jpg?t=1282113617

In the Brady #00 racing Brian Ross #4 at Thompson

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0004-1.jpg?t=1282113695

Bugs in the Brady #00

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0004-3.jpg?t=1282113732

Bugs in the Armstrong #1 at Oxford Plains battling Mario Fiori's #44 with Reggie Ruggiero at the controls

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Bugsy/scan0004-4.jpg?t=1282113825

Randomrodder
08-18-2010, 02:40 AM
Frasson, thanks for those great photos. The XL-1 is gorgeous in my book.

Dans28Tdr
08-18-2010, 06:56 AM
Frasson, Thanks for the photo's. Most of those cars are members of the DAARA Club in Florida (as well as part of thier local clubs when they are not in Florida like myself). Many of them can be seen on a weekly basis trading some paint in the DAARA Southern Vintage Series (www.daararacing.com (http://www.daararacing.com)). I'm working on cleaning up the 98 and getting it back to the way it looked when my father raced it in the late 60's.
Thanks, Dan

vintage44
08-18-2010, 08:34 AM
The #44 in post #6462 is Don Yeingst. I had the car for a few years hoping to find time to restore it ('67 'Cuda) but it now belongs to John Clark of the Midstate Vintage Stock Car Club here in upstate NY.
Gary Wood

BillyTKidd
08-18-2010, 09:25 AM
I believe at the Stafford Spring Sizzler losing a position to the #0 of Ollie Silva

http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy14/JBull_01/Chartrand/scan0009-2.jpg?t=1282111951




Fixed it for you :D

BillyTKidd
08-19-2010, 06:40 AM
Maynard Troyer -- Feb. 1974 issue of Gater Racing Photo News

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/searchingfor68/TroyerMustang1974.jpg

I shure wish that was in color! :(

Radford46
08-19-2010, 12:33 PM
That #40 driven by Bob Wearing at Trenton was owned by Harold Smith of Bassett, Va. He still has it. Wondering if anyone has any good clear photos of that day with the #40?

hugh m
08-19-2010, 12:56 PM
Maynard Troyer -- Feb. 1974 issue of Gater Racing Photo News

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/searchingfor68/TroyerMustang1974.jpg
Great photo of a pretty creative car...now they are busting guys for illegal brake ducts, and other such nonsense.

Dennis Adams
08-19-2010, 04:42 PM
Question ?? I know the answer is 'whatever the buyer is willing to pay' but I'll ask anyway.....what would you think is a 'good' price for a 34 Ford Tudor body that is going to be using for a 1960's era modified. Body only, no hood or grill shell. Thanks.

#99 Vintage Racer
08-19-2010, 08:54 PM
Would anybody have photos of Art Clark from the West Seneca, NY area. I meet Art last Sat. while up state looking for vintage racing parts. He raced for 50 years with a bout load of victorys from many differant tracks. Last year race I beleive was 2004. Raced mostly at Holland and Perry International Speedway. Great guy! 74 years old and still ready to race. Here is a shot I found in a 1968 Gater racing news year book.

k9racer
08-19-2010, 10:42 PM
Question ?? I know the answer is 'whatever the buyer is willing to pay' but I'll ask anyway.....what would you think is a 'good' price for a 34 Ford Tudor body that is going to be using for a 1960's era modified. Body only, no hood or grill shell. Thanks.

I sold one a 1933 model to a good friend for 2 thousand He set the price and I felt like I sold it too cheap..

JoeRacer
08-20-2010, 06:54 AM
JBull and Dr.John I think the #93 is Eddie Rafferty and the #44 is Don Yiengst

Ken_Schou
08-20-2010, 08:02 AM
Great photo of a pretty creative car...now they are busting guys for illegal brake ducts, and other such nonsense.

They've taken all the innovation & creativity out of it. :mad:

BKHRS
08-20-2010, 11:36 AM
Last couple of days I watched the Modified races from Bristol and New Hampshire. I know the cars were new, but it was cool to see old style racing. Racing with respect, something you don't see in the top three touring divisions. Hopefully they will show more races, and maybe pony up for some more cameras to see some mid pack racing. And that will lead to some shows developed like "back in the day" except for modifieds (and without the pop-ups).

Barry

Still trying to find contact information for Jack Lecuyer

The Bullfather
08-20-2010, 03:12 PM
Tuesday was Bowman Gray, we had 3 nights of Mods!!! we have about 7 more races on tv this year. Watch Versus channel, they have one about every week. They did a great job camera wise with Riverhead and then Stafford.

CoolHand
08-20-2010, 03:56 PM
Tuesday was Bowman Gray, we had 3 nights of Mods!!! we have about 7 more races on tv this year. Watch Versus channel, they have one about every week. They did a great job camera wise with Riverhead and then Stafford.

Yeah, the racing was good, but the coverage could have been better.

I dislike how they will excise about 30% of the middle part of the race.

They go to commercial at lap 50, and then come back from that same break at lap 135 or something. That kinda chaps my ass, but I guess 75% of a modified race is better than none at all.

That, and the commentators kinda suck. Listening to Jack Arute is like fingernails on a chalk board to me, and Jimmy Spencer needs to at least have a list of the driver's names in front of him before things start.

I like Spencer though, he was a hell of a racer and he's funny, so I can deal with inexperience calling the race, but Arute has been doing it for 30 yrs. What's his excuse for sucking so much? It's the same thing with him on the Indy car broadcasts. They stash him on pit road with a TV monitor and cut to him when they need someone to say something moronic. The guys in the Indy car booth make fun of him for being stupid (on the air, no less :D ) all the time. At least that has value from a humor standpoint.

The Bristol race was a hoot. Easily one of the best races I've seen this year.

BKHRS
08-20-2010, 04:23 PM
I suspect Arute and Paul Page may have the same issue. I may be wrong (it would be good if I was) but physical appearances are similar to those with the issue I'm thinking of.

I watched Bowman Grey, but to me it doesn't compare to the Stafford race or the others because they only way to pass is to hit the car you want pass (unless you choose the outside for restarts). The track isn't wide enough.

Barry

CoolHand
08-20-2010, 08:12 PM
Yeah, Bowman Gray is more of a WWE type spectacle event than a race sometimes.

However, every once in a while, someone does something truly awesome there.

Towards the first of that race, Burt Myers passed his brother Jason on the outside, and it wasn't on a restart, he just powered around him. I thought it was a good move.

The race winner LW Miller put a hell of a move on Burt to take the lead too. On such a tiny track, it's real hard to hit a guy just hard enough to move him up the track but not hard enough to loop him. The tighter the turn radius, the hard that move is to pull off, but that Miller did it perfectly.

The commentators I can deal with (bitching is one of my hobbies ;) ), I just wish they'd show the whole race.

I guess they have to fit them into a set time slot though, so they edit out the "boring parts". ( :rolleyes: )

The Bullfather
08-20-2010, 08:59 PM
Right now they only have an hour to fit a race that about an hour and half. Spencer is getting better with names, The Riverhead race was great, they cut out one thing Rowan Pennick passing Kevin Goodale for the lead, which was the pass for the win!!! Speed does a better job then Versus, but Versus production is much better, announcers and coverage better on Speed!!! okay pictures!!!!

The Bullfather
08-20-2010, 09:02 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/26162_1321631213459_1611200527_780640_804634_n.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/18538_260615698207_738863207_3323064_328631_n.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/_318Winter19691.jpg

The Bullfather
08-20-2010, 09:03 PM
talladega
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/38813_1373980865050_1097663947_30833376_2820311_n. jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/36809_1373980985053_1097663947_30833378_3028512_n. jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/36809_1373980945052_1097663947_30833377_797122_n.j pg

The Bullfather
08-20-2010, 09:04 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/BillHarris70.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/39175_1526363207043_1473550996_1371704_4595846_n.j pg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/39175_1526363167042_1473550996_1371703_6057908_n.j pg

The Bullfather
08-20-2010, 09:04 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/DaleHoldridge82.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/d28Kco4BAv1X19.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/BillyHarman55.jpg

long island vic
08-20-2010, 10:15 PM
that 38 nova just screams mod

Ken_Schou
08-21-2010, 07:53 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/39175_1526363207043_1473550996_1371704_4595846_n.j pg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/39175_1526363167042_1473550996_1371703_6057908_n.j pg

I believe that both these cars raced at Hinchcliffe Stadium in Paterson, NJ.
Hinchliffe was once a true hot bed of both midget & stock car racing.

Strong efforts are underway to revive the stadium and for auto racing to return to it.

The annual Race Car Expo will be held in the Hinchcliffe Stadium on Sunday, September 5th. Both vintage and current day race cars will be on exhibit .. plus many racing heros from days past .. including some who actually competed at Hinchcliffe .. will be on hand.

More on this event soon .. meanwhile check out the attached flyer.

Ken_Schou
08-21-2010, 08:01 AM
talladega
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/38813_1373980865050_1097663947_30833376_2820311_n. jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/36809_1373980985053_1097663947_30833378_3028512_n. jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/36809_1373980945052_1097663947_30833377_797122_n.j pg

Real good to see this car again, but I wish that it was still here on Long Island, NY (where it has such a rich history) in the Jarzombek fleet of their restored modifieds .. rather than in the Talledaga Museum.

canman
08-21-2010, 08:53 AM
Lancaster Speedway -- Sunday, Sept. 10, 1972. National 400 (200-lap portion for Modifieds) winner Bob Santos (center) with track manager Jim Vollertsen (left) and Archbishop Carroll High School student/Miss Lancaster Speedway Colleen Isch. (Gordon Reinig photo) These are the "lost victory lane shots." Gater News never used them and Don Botting took over in '73 so Jim's photos were dumped. THANKS TO GORDIE'S DAUGHTER FOR SHARING THESE!

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/searchingfor68/zed2.jpg

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy271/searchingfor68/zed1.jpg I wish I had gone to Catholic high school, pretty girl.

Terry1
08-22-2010, 05:51 AM
Yeah, the racing was good, but the coverage could have been better.

I dislike how they will excise about 30% of the middle part of the race.

They go to commercial at lap 50, and then come back from that same break at lap 135 or something. That kinda chaps my ass, but I guess 75% of a modified race is better than none at all.

That, and the commentators kinda suck. Listening to Jack Arute is like fingernails on a chalk board to me, and Jimmy Spencer needs to at least have a list of the driver's names in front of him before things start.

I like Spencer though, he was a hell of a racer and he's funny, so I can deal with inexperience calling the race, but Arute has been doing it for 30 yrs. What's his excuse for sucking so much? It's the same thing with him on the Indy car broadcasts. They stash him on pit road with a TV monitor and cut to him when they need someone to say something moronic. The guys in the Indy car booth make fun of him for being stupid (on the air, no less :D ) all the time. At least that has value from a humor standpoint.

The Bristol race was a hoot. Easily one of the best races I've seen this year.

Arute has been announcing for 30 years and he's been terrible for 30 years too. Spencer was not known for his brains either. I like him and he speaks his mind. But he needs to have some cheat notes in front of him. At the Riverhead race, he continiously call Ryan Preece, Ryan Pierce. The Mike Joy crew is ten times better. His knowledge is not surpassed by anyone.

The Bullfather
08-22-2010, 03:07 PM
Defense to Spencer, he got to the track extremely late stuck in traffic from Poconos and Long Island Expressway. Arute was there early in the day.

Denny Zimmerman
08-22-2010, 08:37 PM
Hey CoolHand and Terry1, I disagree with your comments on Jack Arute. I read your post yesterday and thought....hmmm. So I watched the Indy Sonoma race today and payed particular attention to Arute's commentary. I thought it was good. So your entitled to your opinion but I think he did good. Denny Z

Ken_Schou
08-23-2010, 02:47 AM
Here's an explaination of Jack Roush's crash from a friend of mine (a retired corporate [jet] pilot) who was there at Oshkosh.

~~~~~~~~~~
What happen to Jack Roush was he was suppose to land on the north / south runway toward the south (18 right)
When u r assigned that runway u come in from the east to stay south of the east / west runway. rw9 _________ rw 27

I rw 18R
I
I
I
I rw 36L

Well what he did was to overshoot rw 18R in his turn to the south.
He then corrected to back toward the runway but overshot to far back to the east (left).
When he tried to come back toward 18R his right wing was to low and hit the dirt and that knocked the airplane to the ground and then slammed the aircraft onto the runway and then bounced off to the right side of the runway ending up in the little ditch.

Tha, tha , thatss all folks!
So much for his flying days.
At least I hope so.

A shop at New Smyrna (FL) airport just south of here just built him a P-51.

I do know of three people that still had their license with sight in only one eye.
Matter of fact there is a fellow we fly with now that only has one eye. It can be done.
~~~~~~~~~~

Unless captioned .. photographers unknown

Ken_Schou
08-23-2010, 02:53 AM
Additional pictures

BillyTKidd
08-23-2010, 05:06 AM
Last couple of days I watched the Modified races from Bristol and New Hampshire. I know the cars were new, but it was cool to see old style racing. Racing with respect, something you don't see in the top three touring divisions. Hopefully they will show more races, and maybe pony up for some more cameras to see some mid pack racing. And that will lead to some shows developed like "back in the day" except for modifieds (and without the pop-ups).

Barry

Still trying to find contact information for Jack Lecuyer

Now if NASCAR would let them run without the restrictor plates. It's bad enough they have to run that tiny carb, but I guess it wouldn't due to have such an inferior class running about a second a lap faster than the CUP cars. :D
I can't imagine that there is any advantage to running a big block any more. :(

CoolHand
08-23-2010, 05:21 AM
I don't think they'd let you run it, advantage or not.

Pretty sure the reason they keep choking the motors is to keep folks from getting killed.

The speed has to be controlled, or guys start to die.

There's a reason they don't run modifieds on the super speedways. There is only so much impact that a sub-3,000 LB car can withstand before guys stop being able to walk away from it.

Same reason they don't run the sportsman cars at Daytona anymore. Too much speed for that type of car construction. LMS and modifieds aren't meant to be hitting things at >150 MPH.

Terry1
08-23-2010, 04:07 PM
Hey CoolHand and Terry1, I disagree with your comments on Jack Arute. I read your post yesterday and thought....hmmm. So I watched the Indy Sonoma race today and payed particular attention to Arute's commentary. I thought it was good. So your entitled to your opinion but I think he did good. Denny Z
That's fine with me. I don't know why, but he just seems to get under my skin.

long island vic
08-23-2010, 05:06 PM
the fastest car ever at daytona was richie...almost 220

zebstoy
08-23-2010, 05:36 PM
WOW, after an exhaustive several evenings of going through this thread and reliving all these great memories, I have reached the last page. Great pics everyone. I feel blessed to have grown up at Utica Rome and Fulton, watching all the greats and of course my local heros Evans, Seamon, Lazzaro, and Cook.

One Vernon NY based car I didnt see on here is the beautiful #77 Pinto of Chip Lanz. It was the last car framed ( not 2x4 tubing) modified that Sonny Seamon built. Original power was a Boss 302 Ford and the front suspension was torsion bar. The Boss was later replaced by a B/B Chevy, and suspension changed to coil overs.

Alan Weaver owns the car now and has restored it for shows and parade laps. The first pic is from the day Alan brought it home. The following pics are of the finished restoration. Take a look at all the detail in this car including all the hand done pin-striping. That is exactly the way the car was raced, and wasn't done just to jazz it up for show. Where ever this car raced it had few rivals in the looks department.

CoolHand
08-23-2010, 07:09 PM
the fastest car ever at daytona was richie...almost 220

Exactly.

The Sportsman cars were the same way, consistently in the 200 mph bracket, but built like short track Late Model Stock cars.

The two can't mix. Either you build a speedway car and run speedway speeds, or you keep the short track cars on the short tracks. Seems like someone died in a Sportsman car every year up until they stopped running them.

Hell, guys get killed in Modifieds at Martinsville.

There just ain't enough race car there to run 'em on the big tracks.

Of course, I'd love to see the Modifieds race at Daytona, I just don't want someone to have to croak it so I can do so.

The Bullfather
08-23-2010, 07:56 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/e38Lcp5BBv1Y19.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/e38Lco4BBv1X1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/e38Kco4BBv1X41.jpg

The Bullfather
08-23-2010, 07:57 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/GeneBergin11.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/fJAm1QP108E046.jpg

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The Bullfather
08-23-2010, 07:58 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/nRIu48Xkk2Mi22.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/JoeyTrudeau271.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/gLBn16Qed8Fb51.jpg

The Bullfather
08-23-2010, 07:58 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/Peabody715.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/PCorey3Mustang-663x445.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/o63Vma8LLg4J33.jpg

zebstoy
08-23-2010, 10:27 PM
I remember that car and I (knida) know Alan (he buys nostalgia stuff from me from time to time).

I'm happy he's able to preserve the past -- when cars were interesting -- and he's done another great job!


Alan and my brother have been very close friends since they were kids. Everything he works on he does that kind of detail intensive work. It was a thrill for me to see the car for the first time after the restoration. I could be mistaken, but I believe the same artist that did the hand pinstripes when the car was built in the mid seventies, re-did them all by hand on the restoration.

The Bullfather
08-23-2010, 11:09 PM
OVER 1 MILLION HITS for this thread!!!!!
The photo that started it all!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/1.jpg

Ken_Schou
08-24-2010, 05:36 AM
Hey CoolHand and Terry1, I disagree with your comments on Jack Arute. I read your post yesterday and thought....hmmm. So I watched the Indy Sonoma race today and payed particular attention to Arute's commentary. I thought it was good. So your entitled to your opinion but I think he did good. Denny Z

I agree with Denny!!!

BillyTKidd
08-24-2010, 06:20 AM
I don't think they'd let you run it, advantage or not.

Pretty sure the reason they keep choking the motors is to keep folks from getting killed.

The speed has to be controlled, or guys start to die.

There's a reason they don't run modifieds on the super speedways. There is only so much impact that a sub-3,000 LB car can withstand before guys stop being able to walk away from it.

Same reason they don't run the sportsman cars at Daytona anymore. Too much speed for that type of car construction. LMS and modifieds aren't meant to be hitting things at >150 MPH.

Big blocks are allowed, just check the NASCAR rules. The only thing is that you must run the required 390CFM carb, and pay a penalty.
"For all engines with a cubic inch displacement of 358.000 cubic inch
displacement or larger, a minimum weight requirement of 6.9 pounds per cubic inch plus 175 pounds will be required."

Whelen Rules (http://www.staffordspeedway.com/Pages/Multimedia/Downloads_Word_PDF_Files/2010-WMT-RULEBOOK.pdf)

That's why I wrote that I didn't see and advantage of the big block engine.

While I'm not sure that they belong on today's high-banked 1.5mi + super speedways, I think unrestrected at Bristol would yield top speeds comparable to Oswego or even the DIRT cars at Syracuse and Eldora. Even Lebanon Valley records top speeds in the 150-Neighborhood. Remember, the bigger tracks have SAFER barriers now and these cars are much safer than what Evans ran.

moreoldstuff
08-24-2010, 07:21 AM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/e38Lcp5BBv1Y19.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/e38Lco4BBv1X1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/thebullfather/Aug2010/e38Kco4BBv1X41.jpg0 car with Tony Siscone and starter Sam Estlow(sp.) Wall Stadium

BillyTKidd
08-24-2010, 01:10 PM
the fastest car ever at daytona was richie...almost 220

Could you please post a link for this statistic?
The best I could find was 45.73 @ almost 197 in 1980 (http://www.ultimateracinghistory.com/race.php?raceid=3831).
This, of course was significantly faster than the Cup cars.

I was quite young when we went to Trenton and the Pocono big track RoC, but I remember them as good races.

BillyTKidd
08-24-2010, 01:13 PM
BullFather, just a short thanks for all the work rootin' out all of these photos.

George M.
08-24-2010, 06:13 PM
[QUOTE=The Bullfather;5572821]OVER 1 MILLION HITS for this thread!!!!!
QUOTE]
A Million hits? About a hundred thousand of those were me. Well, I might be exaggerating a little bit...but not much...LOL

Randomrodder
08-25-2010, 12:44 AM
Bill Elliot holds the title for fastest lap ever turned at Daytona in 1987 with 210.364 in his T'bird.
NASCAR decided right there and then that they had to cut speeds down below 200.

Bill later that year turned just under 213 at Talladega.

Fastest lap ever turned was by Greg Biffle in a test run, 218 @ Texas World Speedway.

I still say the mods could out run them. But, as has been stated, too dangerous though they have run the big tracks in the past.

New Britain
08-25-2010, 05:15 AM
Bill Elliot holds the title for fastest lap ever turned at Daytona in 1987 with 210.364 in his T'bird.
NASCAR decided right there and then that they had to cut speeds down below 200.

Bill later that year turned just under 213 at Talladega.

Fastest lap ever turned was by Greg Biffle in a test run, 218 @ Texas World Speedway.

I still say the mods could out run them. But, as has been stated, too dangerous though they have run the big tracks in the past.

A Sprint Cup car has a lot of frontal area, but a Modified has a lot of drag. For the same bhp, I'd be surprised if a Mod could achieve as high a top speed.
Currently, Mods are faster on circuits shorter than one mile, but at that length or longer the SCs are faster - is that right?

leadfoot4
08-25-2010, 06:40 AM
Now if NASCAR would let them run without the restrictor plates. It's bad enough they have to run that tiny carb, but I guess it wouldn't due to have such an inferior class running about a second a lap faster than the CUP cars. :D


As far as NASCAR is concerned the Cup Cars are "the show", and they'll NEVER let any of the other divisions run faster....


the fastest car ever at daytona was richie...almost 220

That may indeed be true, but don't be confused...it wasn't in a short track modified. He had a Banjo Matthews built, "speedway modified" Camaro, with some trick aerodynamics and a 468 cu. in. big block Chevy under the hood. A couple of years prior, he also ran a "sportsman" Mercury Cyclone, and that car also, may have topped 200 MPH.

BillyTKidd
08-25-2010, 06:41 AM
A Sprint Cup car has a lot of frontal area, but a Modified has a lot of drag. For the same bhp, I'd be surprised if a Mod could achieve as high a top speed.
Currently, Mods are faster on circuits shorter than one mile, but at that length or longer the SCs are faster - is that right?

If they took the restrictor plates off the mods, I think they would still be faster than the Cup cars at a NHIS. Dover might be different though.

At NHIS and Bristol the mods run a restrictor plate and they qualify at comparable speeds.
2010_______Cup__________________Mods
NHIS__28.78s__132.337mph___29.663s__128.402
Bristol_15.54s__123.475mph___14.853s__129.347mph
M'Ville_19.24s___98.048mph___19.053s___99.386mph

Martinsville had Cup qualifying rained out, so I used the track record set by Stewart in 2005-pre COT

leadfoot4
08-25-2010, 06:47 AM
A Sprint Cup car has a lot of frontal area, but a Modified has a lot of drag. For the same bhp, I'd be surprised if a Mod could achieve as high a top speed.
Currently, Mods are faster on circuits shorter than one mile, but at that length or longer the SCs are faster - is that right?


That is correct. The 'mods' run a lot of spoiler, which allows them to generate a tremendous amount of downforce, which, in turn, gives them the ability to create very high corner speeds, which helps the cars to achieve crazy fast speeds on the 'bullrings' that they usually compete on.

As you stated, these spoilers also create a lot of drag, but that doesn't quite come into play as much on the short tracks, since the cars are still in the 600HP range, which still is plenty of power to overcome that drag on straights that usually aren't much longer than 250 yards.

indybigjohn
08-25-2010, 11:23 AM
"As far as NASCAR is concerned the Cup Cars are "the show", and they'll NEVER let any of the other divisions run faster..."

In 1966 at Daytona, I recall Paul Goldsmith turning laps quicker in practice for what was then the "Sportsman" (?) race, in a 1963 Plymouth equipped with the hemi. The word even then was that NASCAR couldn't permit those cars to be faster than the then Grand National cars, and some steps were taken.

yvan lacroix
08-25-2010, 04:46 PM
The AF20 that ran at the Rebel Speedway in Granby in the early 70's

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r179/repare-brise/vintage/AF20.jpg

My cars last week

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r179/repare-brise/vintage/vintage%2010/YvanLaccroix.jpg

On the shore of Lac St Jean in Quebec last Sunday Morning at sunrise.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r179/repare-brise/logos%20and%20avitars/animoto/c539b273-1.jpg

Ken_Schou
08-26-2010, 02:08 AM
Annual Racing Expo at the Hinchliffe Stadium, in Paterson, NJ On September 5th

Paterson, NJ - The extremely popular CARQUEST Gasoline Alley TV / Internet Show will take a break from the studio in Allentown, PA, pack their gear and take the show on the road on September 5th as they travel to the Garden State of New Jersey to take part in the annual Racing Expo scheduled for the famous Hinchliffe Stadium located behind the Great Falls of the Passaic River in Paterson, New Jersey. The Gasoline Alley Gang of Ed and Steve Pados will tape another another fabulous edition of their show from 12 Noon until 2 PM and talk to the many racing legends who will be taking part in the show and help bring awareness of the great legacy of the famous stadium.

(NOTE:- The show will air on Monday evening, September 6th, from 6 to 8 PM on channels 103 and 137 and worldwide on the Internet. This will be a special "theme" format of their show, teamed with the ongoing efforts of the Friends of Hinchliffe and racing personalities Ronny Dennis, Jim Reilly and Keith Majka the Pados brothers are honored to play a small part in the preservation of one of the great all-purpose stadiums in the country.)

The Hinchliffe Stadium was built in the era of the Great Depression and opened in 1932 with a seating capacity for 10,000 fans. Baseball was the first sport to use the stadium as the New York Black Yankees and the New York Cubans both played their home games there and later the stadium included football with the Paterson Panthers and later the Night Hawks. With the popularity of auto racing sweeping throughout the country, the stadium hosted exciting midget auto racing. That later gave way to the early years of stock car racing. The famous stadium has also hosted many other varied events throughout it's years of existence, which included Boxing, Track and Field, and Soccer. While the stadium has remained dormant for the past few years, the rich legacy of the history of the great stadium remains and it is hoped through the efforts of the Friends Of Hinchliffe Stadium and it's racing counterparts, the stadium will once again hear the roar of throaty race cars once again competing on it's 1/4 mile asphalt oval.

For the Pados Brothers, the return to New Jersey is significant. The Gasoline Alley name for the popular show came through their father Ed Pados, Sr who was raised in nearby Garfield, New Jersey, later moved to Milford, New Jersey and eventually settled in the Keystone State of Pennsylvania. The elder Pados was a frequent visitor to Gasoline Alley, in Paterson, NJ, where the legendary racing great Ted Horn had his race shops. The elder Pados was a close friend with this racing hero. Later when the Pados Brothers began to field race cars themselves, they utilized the motor services of the great John Bohlander who by then was located in the former Horn race shops. Through those friendships and alliances, the name of the Gasoline Alley Show was born. It is devoted to providing it's large audience with many trips back to the annals of racing history; as well as providing the exposure to the current racers and the youthful racing stars of the future.

The list of celebrities and guests expected at annual event include the legendary Chris Economaki of National Speed Sport News, whose name is synonymous with the history of auto racing. Former Hinchcliffe racers Bill Claren, Ronny Kohler, Bob Krieger, Neil Cole, and Russ Meyer are scheduled to take part in the festivities. Bill Nash, who attended every racing event ever held at the stadium and was close personal friends with the famous open cockpit race driver Bill Schindler, is the recognized historian of the stadium. He will talk about the rich history of the racing action that took place there. Legendary midget & sprint car driver Jimmy Maguire plus many other open cockpit stand outs such as Johnny Mann and Billy Courtwright are expected. Many former stock car wheel twisters including Nate Strunk and Wyatt Jacobus are also anticipated to be on hand.. If she's up to it, Bette Fornoro, the wife of the late Nick Fornoro, who was a champion midget driver with the American Racing Drivers Club (ARDC) and a former Indy car flag man hope to attend. The American Three Quarter Midget Racing Association (ATQMRA) will take part in the show, with Blu Metz of that organization on hand for the occasion. The Flemington Speedway Historical Society and the Tri-State Memorabilia Group will be on hand, as will famed, veteran race photographer Ace Lane, Jr. and writer Tom Avenengo. DJ Joey Metro Entertainment will provide music throughout the day.

A few of the many cars expected to take part in the show include the Chuck Slate owned restored Elto outboard powered midget, the Ed Picard 1938 midget that was in the Economaki Book, the White Ghost sprint car, the Johnny Zeke midget and a variety of other both vintage and current day race cars from all divisions of racing; plus hot rods, custom cars and street cruisers. All drivers and teams are encouraged to come out and join the festivities along with their cars, as the confines of the stadium are vast and the effort to rekindle and return the speedway to it's pedestal are paramount.

The Stadium itself will have the Gates opening at 10 AM and the Show begins at 12 Noon.

The Stadium is located on Liberty and Maple Street behind the Great Falls, in Paterson, NJ..

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For additional information regarding the show, contact Ronny Dennis at: 718 344 0505 or Jim Reilly at: 973 684 2763.
The website is: www.carlsign.com/hinchliffe.html (wlmailhtml:{D43BA9EA-6A38-4B0B-8D68-FEBB31EE6F97}mid://00000125/!x-usc:http://www.carlsign.com/hinchliffe.html)
You can also email to:Jim@carlsign.com (wlmailhtml:{D43BA9EA-6A38-4B0B-8D68-FEBB31EE6F97}mid://00000125/!x-usc:mailto:Jim@carlsign.com)



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Denny Zimmerman
08-26-2010, 09:09 AM
Ken, I'm attending a racing reunion in Manassas VA Saturday Sept 4th, I will do my best to come to this one too. Thanks for letting me know. Denny Z

Ken_Schou
08-26-2010, 09:52 AM
Ken, I'm attending a racing reunion in Manassas VA Saturday Sept 4th, I will do my best to come to this one too. Thanks for letting me know. Denny Z

I hope you can make it Denny. I'd REALLY ENJOY meeting you.

I'm sure that Jimmy Maguire would have us laughing most of the day.

The following week, on Sept. 12th is Ken Brenn's show in Warren, NJ. I went to that last year and had a GRRRRRREAT time. Lots of racing people that I hadn't seen in many years. I'm going to that one too, but I know with you racing a midget the night before at Whip City, that it will be difficult for you .... but I hope not impossible.

shamrock 3x
08-26-2010, 10:47 AM
Hey Ken...did you get any sleep between 3:08 and 10:52 this AM? I sure hope so!
Bill

New Britain
08-26-2010, 04:29 PM
That is correct. The 'mods' run a lot of spoiler, which allows them to generate a tremendous amount of downforce, which, in turn, gives them the ability to create very high corner speeds, which helps the cars to achieve crazy fast speeds on the 'bullrings' that they usually compete on.

As you stated, these spoilers also create a lot of drag, but that doesn't quite come into play as much on the short tracks, since the cars are still in the 600HP range, which still is plenty of power to overcome that drag on straights that usually aren't much longer than 250 yards.
Yes, you can trim out the spoiler to some extent.
I was thinking more of the aerodynamic mess around those big tires and the air intake configuration:
http://yankeeracer.smugmug.com/Adam-Fohlin/2010/Waterford032810/Doug-Coby-3-Budweiser-Blastoff/822206246_rTPsF-S.jpg


versus:
http://www.thesharpeimage.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/39a-chlt09_1970.jpg

#99 Vintage Racer
08-26-2010, 10:04 PM
How about these old Aerodynamic Mods.!

Dr. John
08-27-2010, 12:30 AM
Yes, you can trim out the spoiler to some extent.
I was thinking more of the aerodynamic mess around those big tires and the air intake configuration:
http://yankeeracer.smugmug.com/Adam-Fohlin/2010/Waterford032810/Doug-Coby-3-Budweiser-Blastoff/822206246_rTPsF-S.jpg


versus:
http://www.thesharpeimage.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/39a-chlt09_1970.jpg

CUP CARS and new Modifieds...aren't we getting off-topic on this old-Modified thread???
(60'-70's Vintage Oval Track Modifieds )

Ken_Schou
08-27-2010, 02:13 AM
CUP CARS and new Modifieds...aren't we getting off-topic on this old-Modified thread???
(60'-70's Vintage Oval Track Modifieds )

We are John & THANKS .. but before we close out on it .. keep in mind that the Cup cars undergo both PROFESSIONAL AERODYNAMIC ENGINEERING .. plus, RIGEROUS, VERY EXPENSIVE & REPEATIVE wind tunnel testing .... while the best most modified teams could afford is some shade tree aerodynamics.

Add to this .. for the most part, I personally find the super speedway Cup races BORING .. while the weekly bull ring races overall "ain't"!!!!!

Also, faster & faster speeds usually does NOT mean better racing. However, it doe$ alway$ mean increasingly emptier hip pocket$.

retroridesbyrich
08-27-2010, 06:18 AM
To quote that infamous Long Island band the Good Rats; "Speed ain't nothin' without class.