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Revhead
03-10-2007, 09:50 AM
I'm starting to miss the old HAMB. I remember the days when I would be out in the garage, needed some advice and would run in and post a question. In a matter minutes I would get a helpful answer or 5 with suggestions and examples. Now it seems every time I post I at least get a few useless, smart ass remarks for no reason whatsoever and a few actual answers. I'm not complaining about the board at all, it has improved and improved since I've been on it and that has been quite a while. I think it is the fact that the "Rat Rod" and traditional hobby has grown so much lately that it has picked up all the trend followers and some of them have migrated to the HAMB. Sorry, guess I'm just tired of feeling like I have to defend my reasoning for posting a technical question these days.

Theres these guys who bought their first OSR yesterday and has his grandfathers '68 4dr ford rustbucket with the flatblack treatment, that is claimed to be "old-school" laquer found in a corner of barris' shop and subsequently taken to a Roth party where it was pissed in by GERM himself.
Or the guy who at one time in the distant past once rubbed nipples with a Grabowski look-a-like in the parking lot of an eastern Illinois Wal-Mart, because he was driving his '52 chevy that he chopped 12 inches in front and sunk the roof 20" in back just cause he has to "take it to the next level".

These guys hop on threads and post some dumb smart-assed answer and walk away like someone actually valued their input. It's a waste of space and time. Much like this rant:rolleyes:

I don't claim to be any sort of expert here, but If I try to answer someones question on a post I am not an asshole about it and there's no need to be.

The HAMB didn't used to have this many pricks on it... Where'd they all come from?

3wLarry
03-10-2007, 09:55 AM
...time for Tech Week!!...

Revhead
03-10-2007, 10:00 AM
yeah exactly...

InDaShop
03-10-2007, 10:11 AM
My thoughts-

We get out what we put in. With so many others not really "PUTTING IN" the rest have to really work harder to keep the world in balance.

I try to put in quality, and even I am guilty of being an ass sometimes. You almost can't help but be in some instances. With a community that is about to eclipse 27,000 members and 1 main page, it is no wonder that if I dont stay on top of the current reads, that next thing ya know you are 20-30 pages behind on the main board. I'm sorry I just dont have the time to "REALLY" read everything. I miss lots, and this is just well......lost.

Ryan, and company has and have done a wonderful job with creating the avenues for the HAMB to grow to its current level, but it just seems watered down.

As for TECH week. I really miss the old ones. But the crew today doesn't even bat an eye lash when its "TECH Week" We just get more O/T's, Post your dog, Who old are you, What do you do type of posts.
Tech week as we know it is gone. I remember the last one, having to ferret through 20 pages of fluff to "FIND" them out.

We get out what we put in. I am making it my personal goal to put in better higher quality topics and work to promote discussions. Anyone else?

Wyatt "InDaShop"

Builtforsin
03-10-2007, 10:14 AM
Makes me sad I didn't know about the HAMB before. The whole rat rod kulture thing is a joke. Makes me wonder what will happen to all these hacked up cars and trucks in 5 years when the trend dies.

and I'm obviously new here... what is tech week exactly?

Pist-n-Broke
03-10-2007, 10:16 AM
Revhead; Anytime something Good is going on it attracts attention. A small group will draw Clingon's and Wannabee's as well as Copycats. That's the standard progression of anything. Not much we can do about that.
As far as the Crap Cars that will never be Tradition Rods and the remarks that only show a Low I.Q. I normally just don't give those things the time of day.
If a post has nothing constructive to add just don't respond. Those things will generally weed themselvs out. Somehow this post caught my Attention and I made an exception.
The Old H.A.M.B. is still here, We're just not the Majority any more. Hopefully the New comers will learn and grow and eventually build Iron we can all appreciate.
The Wizzard

MarkX
03-10-2007, 10:23 AM
yeah the Clingons always gravitate to uranus...................

Revhead
03-10-2007, 10:24 AM
and I'm obviously new here... what is tech week exactly?

Tech week was a week set-up by ryan in which only tech articles were allowed. No off-topic posts at all. Before tech week the board was pretty much Tech-full time unless it was a random debate by Mud and Steve about how big their 4x4 was or GERM and another hallucinogenic rant, but those were few and far between and never disrupted the flow of learning or what the board was about. Once it got bigger and more OT posts popped up Ryan introduced tech week to get everyone back on topic.

I can weed through the topics too, that's fine with me. It's the serious topics and real questions that get bombarded with stupid remarks and usless posts that annoy me. Not only do you have to weed through the topics, now I have to weed through the content of each topic too..

All being said though, The HAMB is still an amazing resource. Especially after taking on so many members it still proves to be the best source for instant information on our hobby.

Shifty Shifterton
03-10-2007, 10:26 AM
You do get out what you put in.

When you ask a question and someone gives a light hearted answer, perhaps you shouldn't get all pissy, like you did with me when I questioned your use of compression fittings in a fuel line.

Your pissiness in turn encourages others to jump on the bandwagon and spins the thread out of control. See the rat rod comment in that fuel line thread- Undoubtedly thrown out due to the fact you were acting just like the young punks you rail against.

Meanwhile the guy who's answer you'd actually respect doesn't post anything cause you're in a mood to jump all over somebody who doesn't repeat your pre-detemined answer.

No smart assness intended here, just my honest opinon.

Hot rods are supposed to be about fun, enjoy your ride, compression fittings or not.

Moonglow2
03-10-2007, 10:41 AM
It's the serious topics and real questions that get bombarded with stupid remarks and usless posts that annoy me. Not only do you have to weed through the topics, now I have to weed through the content of each topic too..

All being said though, The HAMB is still an amazing resource. Especially after taking on so many members it still proves to be the best source for instant information on our hobby.

<---what he said

poncho62
03-10-2007, 10:49 AM
Maybe, an "Off Topic" forum isn't a bad idea.....and, maybe the posts on it only stay there for a set time, say a week........That way, it wouldn't waste too much bandwidth, with BS posts. Just allow so much space for it.

Then, the tech posts wouldn't get lost in the bowels of the board so fast.

Ryan made a post last week about this waste of the boards resources.......doesn't seem to have helped much.

Mudslinger
03-10-2007, 11:08 AM
I cant wait in about 5-7 years there should be a bunch of parts available to us from guys starting families and getting money for tattoo removal haha.
Really though I expect this trend to peter out in a few years and the same old Rodders and Kustomizers will be around.

Homespun91
03-10-2007, 11:10 AM
I've lurked here since 2003, though I joined fairly recently. The off-topic posts & smart-ass replies have long been a part of the H.A.M.B. However, I agree that it's gotten out of hand. The best case in point: Ryan posts a thread specifically asking for off-topic posts to be limited & carefully considered before posting....

....and after it had been posted for at least an hour, I counted five O/T posts that were placed afterwards. They were short enough, and the timing was such, that it would have been difficult to have NOT seen Ryan's post...

Another post asked about the details of putting a BBC into a '67 Mustang. When told that the post was not relevant to the HAMB or traditional rodding, the poster's response was, essentially, "I know & I don't care. Somebody here will know. Lighten up." The thread quickly turned into yet another Ford vs. Chevy post before Metalshapes killed it.

The problems with the upgrade, & the search function, have undoubtedly caused some of the "basic" or "question already asked twenty times" style posts, but in my experience, a lot of people, particularly newer folks, don't use search anyway. They simply can't be bothered to take the time.

I could see another section devoted to O/T posts such as deaths/illnesses- where the mods could decide that if a H.A.M.B. member or direct relation (spouse/child/parent) was involved, that thread could be moved to this forum (or others at the mods' discretion). Other items of interest such as old houses, cool shops, shop dogs, etc. could be placed there too. This might be an extra burden for the mods, or it may make things easier. Perhaps we need another moderator or two to help out.

What it all boils down to is that we need to police ourselves better in terms of what's posted, the replies made, & using the "report" button to let the already overworked moderators know of real issues...

I'm grateful that the H.A.M.B.'s still alive & kickin', overburdened or not, even in 2007. :)

dochorsepower
03-10-2007, 11:20 AM
Amen, Revhead. I was first attracted to th HAMB by the tech posts. I've been working on hot rods since the late '50's and this board is a great resource -let's keep it that way.

49 Fastback
03-10-2007, 11:21 AM
Ryan made a post last week about this waste of the boards resources.......doesn't seem to have helped much.

The sad part is, I didn't even notice it--must have been buried.

I'm not saying I'm not guilty as anyone else. Something that everyone might consider, is that some of us know next to nothing (compared to others) so maybe we post "useless stuff" just to feel like we belong...man, I gots to stop over-analyzing myself...

Tucker

chuckspeed
03-10-2007, 11:23 AM
Shop's comments ring pretty true. If you make it a point to put more in than you get out - it's a good place to hang.

Success, in just about any form, is gonna attract a broader spectrum. I suspect the techie content is the same - just not as condensed as B4...but I wasn't here then, so I can't vouch for it.

Personally - I look for the threads that are interesting - or where I think I can help. I'm down to reading only about 5% of the threads. Certain posters are worth reading - others...nope.

In modding other (admittedly less active) boards, the best defense for weirdness is to ignore the source. There are personality types who are empowered by disruption, and as greatifying as opening up a can of whoop-ass is...it's exactly what they want. Let 'em go - they'll go away. If they don't - that's what moderators are for.

sodbuster
03-10-2007, 11:34 AM
That is why I like the search function.........I know the guys that are on the "HAMB" alot and reply to certain post are worth searching


http://eclipse.erichmoraga.com/AEM/posting.htm


Chris Nelson
Kansas

theHIGHLANDER
03-10-2007, 11:38 AM
I think most hot rodders, traditional or not, have a strain of smart ass in em anyways. The anonymity(sp?) allows some overdo of that fact and most of us (even based on some of the above responses) know how to deal with it. Just like TV or radio...turn it off. I think this a great place to hang out and mingle with like-minded folks who dig this stuff. There's kool in a lot of it. Tech, helpful answers, resources for stuff are all automatic for those who understand. Those that don't, well, fuck em. Do your thing and police yourself. Let the rest fade away.

Junkyard Dog 32
03-10-2007, 11:48 AM
This is what the old H.A.M.B was like.........


http://webzoom.freewebs.com/1428crystallake/bat3.jpg


You'd post your '72 Citroen or a '67 Mustang and get flogged. Now, guys are jizzin' down their legs....

How I long for the good old days....
Still, it's alot like family here and you put up with what you have to....

JOE:cool:

PS~ What's with all the YouTube crap...??? It's getting worse than Ebay posts...

Low
03-10-2007, 12:00 PM
AAAAHHHHH, yes. Who doesnt long for the days of Harlan, and Germ railing on and on about their shitboxes. Or SPANK talking about stealing beer. Or being able to post and have it stay on the first page for hours instead of mere moments. Gotta take the bad with the good, I suppose.

Shifty Shifterton
03-10-2007, 12:11 PM
Yeah, what is the deal with all the youtube posts. If I wanted to see a bunch of video about traditional rods, I'd go to a traditional rod site!

Ooops, there's that smartass streak again..........

flathead okie
03-10-2007, 12:12 PM
" The whole rat rod kulture thing is a joke. Makes me wonder what will happen to all these hacked up cars and trucks in 5 years when the trend dies."

That's my feelings too, same with all the tatoo posts.

Junkyard Dog 32
03-10-2007, 12:21 PM
Yeah, what is the deal with all the youtube posts. If I wanted to see a bunch of video about traditional rods, I'd go to a traditional rod site!

Ooops, there's that smartass streak again..........


How about... If I wanted to see a bunch of YouTube videos, I'd go to YouTube.com.

This thread is that of mere opinion... I have mine.


JOE:cool:

Graybar
03-10-2007, 12:27 PM
Thanks Revhead. Been thinking about a post like this myself but didn't think it would do any good. Oh and I'm not as new to the HAMB as my join date indicates. Had to go away for a while.

leon renaud
03-10-2007, 12:32 PM
Mabey this is the reason some off topic car related questions are asked here.I don't know a single car guy who isn't into most cars in some way,The same guy who loves his banger A most likely has other off topic modified cars as well.and I gaurantee you If you ask for an answer here you WILL get lots more than 1 good one within a day!I have asked O/T questions here just because the answers are here !I would like to see a place for OFF YEAR post for teck questions and dont tell me to go to such and such a site because I just may have been there already!For one thing HAMBERS seem to give precise answers to my questions or anyone elses .I have had posts on 3 different S10 sites and haven't gotten the answer I need in more than a week .If I ask that question on here I WILL have it tommorrow!Now I will admit that for each good answer here I will most likely get 3 Ballbusters also which IS unfortunate.Some folks can only answer a question about a specific problem with a specific make/model Only the guys here can tell you that the rear from a 1982 Whatsits is what you need for a 1950 Whosists

oldcarmike
03-10-2007, 12:37 PM
This is supposed to be like a virtual garage isn't it?

When folks come to my garage, they talk about all sorts of shit. We don't just stand around and ONLY talk about cars and car parts. Its generally the topic, but if we want to talk about taxes or dogs or kitty cats, we do.



Yes, I agree but sometimes you gotta tell the guy who's rambling on about his Gramma's doily collection he found in the attic to shut the fuck up.

I second 3W Larry's suggestion: Tech Week please and I actually have one to post. :D

gulfwarsubvet
03-10-2007, 12:40 PM
Been coming here for about 5 years and joined last year. Found this site on google searching for tech on my comet. I appreciate the ton of info and tips you guys provided me as a lurker. I miss that. A search for "60 comet" or "1960 Comet" back then yielded a ton of hits. Now I get 4 or 5 and all the cool shit I used to read is gone. I agree with all the above, if its not a tech article it should be placed in or moved to an off-topic section or canned. That way it is either gone or falls off the back end and some of the good stuff stays around longer on the board.

Junkyard Dog 32
03-10-2007, 12:41 PM
How about the idea that a fella is watching YouTube ALONE at his house and wants to share it with some pals of his on the internet?

This is supposed to be like a virtual garage isn't it?

When folks come to my garage, they talk about all sorts of shit. We don't just stand around and ONLY talk about cars and car parts. Its generally the topic, but if we want to talk about taxes or dogs or kitty cats, we do.

The problem with the HAMB is that it IS a collection of friends. This isn't just a message board.

(...and I don't consider that a horrible thing)

I agree with the "garage" thing... and I agree whole heartedly.
I posted a couple of jokes (car related) for my buddies on the H.A.M.B. and it has grown into a big-ass thread, which has gone waaaay off topic.... but it's just one thread... and I've never bumped it back to the top unless it was right there already.

I posted a question about a master cylinder the other day and it's on page 26 now, with no replies. Yet, between then and now there's been a shitload of YouTube postings that only push it further down the list.



JOE:cool:

K13
03-10-2007, 12:52 PM
[quote=Junkyard Dog 32;1841970]I agree with the "garage" thing... and I agree whole heartedly.
I posted a couple of jokes (car related) for my buddies on the H.A.M.B. and it has grown into a big-ass thread, which has gone waaaay off topic.... but it's just one thread...

No offence but that is the problem right there. With 27,000 members everyone thinks it's just one thread and you end up with way too many off topic posts. I'm not knocking it some are pretty interesting I liked the how old are you post it's neat to know more about the people you are talk with but it will mean that other stuff will get pushed down the list.

Junkyard Dog 32
03-10-2007, 01:01 PM
Yep... and no offense taken.
I started that thread when there might have been 5,000 guys on here. It's grown alot.

A new thread doesn't need to be started for EVERY video posted. That's what I'm saying...


JOE:cool:

Farmer
03-10-2007, 01:13 PM
Revhead, here was my cry out for help for the old hamb...mocking the types of posts i have seen on here from the new idiots you speak of....

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72465

I would like to add that denise and ryan are NOT targets in my rant post... i just included them in my story that's all. (i still love you both)
xoxo

Junkyard Dog 32
03-10-2007, 01:35 PM
FARMER that's fuckin' classic... too bad it was before YouTube or we could see the series of tire smoking shitties that started the whole wreck...in 4 or 5 different threads form different angles with soundtrack from Reverend Horton Heat... :D


JOE:cool:

Crease
03-10-2007, 01:57 PM
I posted a tech question about a month ago and was fully expecting a bunch of smart ass answers. Sure enough, the first post was some smart ass comment. It really annoyed me, but what really ticked me off was next few replies stating how funny the first guy was. I highly suggest that everyone make a major attempt to just ignore such input.

extremist
03-10-2007, 02:01 PM
I have honestly noticed a big difference even in the short time I've been here. There is amazing content stored in the message board but too many people would rather jawbone about piddly shit than search, read and learn. The number of OT threads lately is really tiring, and it's true the speed with which some tech posts get buried by BS is amazing. You actually have to subscribe to a thread lots of times so that you can check back in just a couple of hours to find it.

When I joined up, I felt like I had to be really careful or my ass would get booted. The moderators and long-term HAMBers were pitbulls. Is the way things are now a result of ballooning notoriety, the HAMB as business and therefore needing to let customers "have it your way", or a combination of both or neither?

I'd like to see a return to the "this is the way it is, if you don't like it get the fuck out" attitude I found here. It fostered respect and minimized the crap.

These would be some of my "new rules":
- NO O.T. threads without clearance from a moderator, no matter how long you have to wait
- NO new threads about anything that has been covered by pre-existing threads easily found with the search function, else your thread is closed with a reply telling you why
- Classified threads closed to replies by anyone other than the poster and moderators
- Return to intro requirement for classifieds and any classifieds which don't follow the rules 100% are immediately nuked
- NO mercy
- Clearly posted rules and commitment by members to enforce the rules and help out the moderators with same

Junkyard Dog 32
03-10-2007, 03:11 PM
These would be some of my "new rules":
- NO O.T. threads without clearance from a moderator, no matter how long you have to wait
- NO new threads about anything that has been covered by pre-existing threads easily found with the search function, else your thread is closed with a reply telling you why
- Classified threads closed to replies by anyone other than the poster and moderators
- Return to intro requirement for classifieds and any classifieds which don't follow the rules 100% are immediately nuked
- NO mercy
- Clearly posted rules and commitment by members to enforce the rules and help out the moderators with same



I like the way you think, man.

That first one is already covered, really... isn't it? The Mods delete what they want...
So for them to have to take extra steps to give an OK first might just make it tougher on 'em.

The pit-bull and no mercy part I can say I miss the most.

If we're switching gears to suggestions, now......???

I'd like to see a "sticky" thread for YouTube videos.... and then, if you post one on the message board you should get a kick in the nuts. That way, anyone who comes to the H.A.M.B. just to watch fucking TV can tune in at their leisure.

As far as searches go....????
If people would be smarter than the boogers under their chairs, they would write a title that would allow you to find it...
....and a sticky that says....
PUT SOMETHING ABOUT THE CONTENTS OF THE THREAD IN THE FUCKING TITLE YOU DICKHEAD....!!!!!!

:D

I still love you guys... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Z6pWhM6TA



JOE:cool:

thrasher
03-10-2007, 03:37 PM
i've only been here for a few months, but in that time i've knoticed a change in the HAMB. when i first joined almost everything on the first 2 pages of the board were worth reading, and i would spend hours reading them. now i find about 3 or 4 good topics on the first 2 pages and the rest is just crap that isn't even worth looking at. another thing that bugs me is when someone asks a question, then after 4 or 5 smart-ass comments, someone finally answers it and then 10 more people say the exact same answer. If someone answers a question we don't need 10 people confirming it. we definately need to make some changes around here.

Jalopy Jim
03-10-2007, 03:51 PM
I agree on all of the off topic stuff.
I retired from road racing in 2004 and renewed my intrest in hotrods.
being away from them for nearly 40 years I have found this board a big help. But often I have asked questions in the morning and by noon the question is on page 15 with no replies. And there are 40 post on Dogs, Cardboard ect.

I am still happy here and recently joined the Alliance to help support the board. Hopefully next week I will put together a tech peice, that does not show up on the search engine, and start repaying the people that have been helping me with my dumb questions.

And with more dumb questions and lot of work I will have an 54f100 custom to put under the HAMB tag for the HAMB drags this August.

Goozgaz
03-10-2007, 03:59 PM
My 2 centavos....

I hate YouTube. I don't even open the thread if it has YOUTUBE inthe title. If a YOUTUBE link supports your topic (like show old drag footage when discussing old drags) then OK. But a YouTube video alone should never be a thread starter

There are OT post and then there are OT post. I like some of the OT threads that have to do with cars. I hate the OT granma dolie threads. But like someone said... it's supposed to be like a garage and guys in a garage talk about a lot of different stuff. Hopefully it can be limited to non gay stuff that wouldn't get you punched in the eye if youe were in a real garage.

Rusk
03-10-2007, 04:05 PM
I've only been here for a couple years, so veterans correct me if I'm wrong...it seems like the quality of posts go in waves. There are times when it seems like there are a ton of BS threads (which I suppose is still based on opinion) and just when I'm feeling like the HAMB's taken a turn for the worse, some great tech, builds, or history threads arrive to bring us back to what we really enjoy. I've had days when I said to myself, "Damn self, the HAMB kicks ass right now!!" When I'm not feeling it, I just take it as a sign that I need to get back in the garage.

I like the pit-bull and no-mercy approach too...eventually the guys posting too much OT garbage fade away or get so pissy that they retort with something that gets 'em booted.

If we ever get to the point that the really knowledgeable guys stop posting, then we'll have a problem. So far, I think they're still out there and there have been some recent additions too...we know who they are.

Bryan

Rem
03-10-2007, 04:17 PM
My tuppence worth: I joined/use the HAMB for its tech content, and have learned a lot and hopefully contributed a little since signing up. I know I don't see every topic (so I must miss some good ones) and really only scan the first couple of pages for titles that look to be of interest, but the occasional O/T thread has been more than entertaining - the one where Ryan (I think) had his cardboard templates nicked by some wino was a killer.

And as for videos, why not have a "Tuesday YouTube Show" or something, like with the Friday art show, then anyone can watch 'em or ignore 'em at will?

johnnykck
03-10-2007, 04:24 PM
I'd like to see a return to the "this is the way it is, if you don't like it get the fuck out" attitude I found here. It fostered respect and minimized the crap.



I agree that the HAMB is like a big garage where you hang out with your friends, but in my garage (shop) I hang out with fellow "gearheads" to talk hotrods, bikes, custom cars, engines or some times about a good carshow I went to. If I want to talk about other stuff I'll go to the local bar.

thirtytwo
03-10-2007, 04:36 PM
i think germ kept a lot of people in check ...if you read between the lines in his rants the guy was profound,maybe a genius, i always laughed... between hell fire and damnation beef curtain talk the guy always made a point if he was gunning for you the punishment was quick but brutal...... i think intros scared alot of people away also......i miss GERM

SinisterCustom
03-10-2007, 05:14 PM
I second 3W Larry's suggestion: Tech Week please and I actually have one to post.
Why wait 'till TECH week to post tech.....

Another note.....pretty much everything has been done before and can be found using the search....if not here, somewhere else on the net or in books.
If we cease to B.S. with O/T posts or ask questions that have already been answered before.....a message board/forum will slowly die.......
I too agree that there has been an ONSLAUGHT of USELESS posts, but you just gotta use your own disgression when opening a thread.....

The HAMB is for "Spreading the Gospel" of "Traditional Rods and Customs" to "Hoodlums Worldwide"......the Gospel seems to be getting LOST for us Hoodlums trying to build OUR VISION of a Traditional car.......

K13
03-10-2007, 05:19 PM
someone finally answers it and then 10 more people say the exact same answer. If someone answers a question we don't need 10 people confirming it. we definately need to make some changes around here.[/quote]

Exactly. I understand posting if you have something more to say but the "what he said" replys are a waste of time and space on the board. It also annoys me when a thread is going and two people decide to use it as a time to catch up. Next thing you know half a page is used up by two guys chit chatting. This is the kind of stuff PM's are for. Everyone on the board doesn't need to read it.

oldcarmike
03-10-2007, 05:21 PM
Why wait 'till TECH week to post tech.....


Ryan mentioned in his thread about all the O/T crap lately that he wasn't ready for a tech week yet due to server or software issues, so I'll wait till he gives us the green light.

Cshabang
03-10-2007, 05:25 PM
very well put..I was a lurker for a longtime before I posted, and after I signed on..I didn't post often..so my count is low.....but you got it right..the "scene" has changed....hahahaha normally, as soon as the word scene comes out of someones mouth..I'm walkin away...its a lifestyle

SinisterCustom
03-10-2007, 05:27 PM
Well, that's kinda my point....WHY WAIT for permission from Ryan to post tech. There is just not enough tech posts done, and when people have stuff to show, they SAVE it for Tech Week?????
I'd post more tech stuff if I knew how to do anything...hahaha!

Maybe I'm just CONFUSED as to what the Hamb is all ABOUT.......

oldcarmike
03-10-2007, 05:32 PM
Well, that's kinda my point....WHY WAIT for permission from Ryan to post tech.

'Cuz that's how my momma raised me. :p

Actually, it's not quite ready yet. I need to proofread the text for clarity and I'm feeling a bit lazy right now too. :o Besides, it's just sewing stuff, nobody's interested in that, right? :rolleyes:

Ryan
03-10-2007, 05:42 PM
It's funny... I was just speaking with one of our oldest members last night and we were both contemplating how great the content has been lately...

I'm a little confused as to how you guys could be seeing all of these off topic posts. I delete just about everything I find that is not interesting... Maybe you guys should start reporting posts more often?

X38
03-10-2007, 06:17 PM
I lurked for a long time before registering also. Couldn't resist due to the hands on techiness of it all. But now, I totally agree with the reason this thread started. Democracy is great and all that, but beware the thin end of the wedge syndrome.

Gigantor
03-10-2007, 06:26 PM
I've been wondering if it would be possible to have a "Tech Archives" - exclusively tech - searchable, well organized, etc.?
Having to mull through dozens of O/T posts to find a spec of pertinent information is a PITA.

I'm still a newbie - but it seems that even I have seen a change in the HAMB the short time I have been on board. I'd hate to think that I was adding to the problem and will go out of my way to watch what I post in the off chance I'm propogating the very thing we're all railing against.

Ryan
03-10-2007, 06:30 PM
Dozens of Off topic posts? Where are they?

HEATHEN
03-10-2007, 06:39 PM
Hey, it's like TV. If the name of the program looks stupid to me, I don't bother with it. I'll agree that it seems like nothing will interest me one day, and the next day I'll see thirty different threads that I want to check out, but they can't all be gems. Like someone already said, it's all been done at one time or another. Sort of like articles in rod magazines; it gets increasingly difficult to find fresh material.

54BOMB
03-10-2007, 07:40 PM
When I started on the HAMB I was looking for info on my 54 chevy, I read almost every thing that came up on a daily basis but I was really only focused on one type of car and a few of the guys who had the answers I needed ( rusk, 53sled, ect ). Now since Im not driving that 54 any more and Im concentrating on my new car a 64 Galaxie, it seems the hamb has opened up a million posts about Fords, FE motors , 60s bellflower stuff, and I use the search all time, really renewed my intrest in the hamb cause I have a new reason to be here. I guess what Im trying to say is to think if you've been stuck in a "rut" with what your looking for here. I know getting a different car made me interested in a whole section of the hamb I previously gave little attention too. Overall though, Im really happy to be here and Id help anyway I can.
-Brett

publicenemy1925
03-10-2007, 08:17 PM
I'm very new and the post have been amazing. But if i see another post on my blackwalls to white, or my white walls to black, (no shit) i'm getting a tire iron.

Burgy
03-10-2007, 08:31 PM
well being one of the new, very new guys I may add, i dont know anything about the early days of the hamb, however i have been a part of a few other awesome message boards that also became gigantic.

Neways, my personal opinion, is that this board is suffering a little because there are simply not enough categories, there should be categories for tech help, random tech articles that eventually filter to the tech archives, and other misc. things. Things simply get lost, WAY too quickly being compiled into one category, I mean its pretty bad when its only 10-30 minutes after viewing a post and its on the 3rd or 4th page. No offence to ryan or the moderators or anything, there simply needs to be more diversity in the categories, so its easier to get the answers you need, and so you dont need to wade through waist high bullshit for hours.

choprods
03-10-2007, 09:34 PM
Here are a couple of observations I have made.....

1- A lot of the older members are merely lurking [:D regularly].. but nonetheless ,not posting much....for whatever reasons.

2-I[and others] used to try to post some tech,[I thought it was Tech] but, lately have not because it seems it falls on deaf ears,or some dude with zippo experience corrects me,telling me a better way to do it....and makes me wish I had not even done the post.

Also I wonder why some,like me who posted several Tech posts have hardly anything in the Tech archive,while some rediculously mindless stuff is in there.....who is in charge of that?

3-A lot more guys here are interested in things we never ...EVER... discussed here, before...:cool: :D ;)

4-The HAMB is what we each make it......thankfully we have it as a venue we can improve on....

Thanks for the outlet Ryan.

Muttley
03-10-2007, 10:06 PM
I sure dont mind being helpful but if the opportunity presents itself I wont hesitate to lower the bar (or the boom) with a good old fashioned Liberace post. BTW Chachi has been woefully underused lately........................in the spirit of all things comedic and in my best Michael Buffer voice I present to you the all singing, all dancing, superfly sensation of 1977.........he's number fourteen in your programs but number one in your hearts...........Chachi Arrrrcoooollllllllaaaaaaaa (and Joanie).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/muttley30/3JoanieandBaio.jpg

alleyoop
03-11-2007, 12:07 AM
I am kinda new here,I guess im just a old shit but one prob.is the f.n.g. an newbe stuff,these guys just keep posting short shit after each post just to up there count so they can be a old guy,hell that fng dont mean shit to me i been a new guy a lot of times ,i think the hambs is a fine site i have had a lot of my buddys join.

Ryan
03-11-2007, 09:46 AM
The argument that "I won't post my tech stuff because some new guy will just correct me anyway" is a bunk excuse...

RadioFlyer
03-11-2007, 02:40 PM
Board burn out maybe? I'm a "veteran" on another marque specific board. I've reached a point where if I have to answer question A one more time I'm going to explode. =-) I just need to remind myself that the FNG is exactly that, a FNG, and to bring out the cluebat when necessary. So I'll answer question A, just one more time to help keep things on track. One bonus is, as the FNG's who have a clue stick around, they take up anwering question A before us old timers see it. So I can sit back and wait to get my old cranky self get wound up about something else.

Alex.

Junkyard Dog 32
03-11-2007, 03:46 PM
I've been wondering if it would be possible to have a "Tech Archives" - exclusively tech - searchable, well organized, etc.?
Having to mull through dozens of O/T posts to find a spec of pertinent information is a PITA.



You Do know there IS a tech archive... right...???:rolleyes:


JOE:cool:

Paul
03-11-2007, 04:43 PM
........Also I wonder why some,like me who posted several Tech posts have hardly anything in the Tech archive,while some rediculously mindless stuff is in there.....who is in charge of that?
.............

the Tech Archive does need some cleaning up I must admit
and we are working towards that end

as for your more worthy posts...
I will also look into that.

Paul