View Full Version : Opinions on torque thrust with Whitewalls


flatblackindustries
10-18-2006, 01:12 AM
Anyone got pictures of American Torq Thrust (polished) with white walls?

Gator Mc Klusky
10-18-2006, 01:34 AM
Here, on my El Camino...
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163072.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163075.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163077.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163078.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163080.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163081.jpg

By the way, they're spelled Torq Thrust...:D

flatblackindustries
10-18-2006, 01:38 AM
Looks good.
My bad on the spelling. It's late.

Gator Mc Klusky
10-18-2006, 01:41 AM
Here it's early:D

57JoeFoMoPar
10-18-2006, 03:43 AM
looks awesome

jbon64
10-18-2006, 05:21 AM
hey gator, damn good look'in elky !!!

Richard D
10-18-2006, 07:02 AM
What size/brand tires?

GreenMtnBoy
10-18-2006, 08:14 AM
Just my .02.....I've never been a fan of whitewalls and aluminum wheels. They work with a certain theme...just not for me. I have over-analized this taste anomaly and I think it must be regional.
That said...Gator your Elky rules, I'd drive it as-is.

Scotch
10-18-2006, 09:49 AM
I'd consider Radirs with WWW long before I'd ever look at Torq Thrusts...

Have you considered Radirs?

Just an idea...

~Scotch~

ambman
10-18-2006, 10:34 AM
My opinion is that by the times mag wheels became popular (early 60's) people were into the thinner whitewalls and wide whites were out. There may be a few exceptions with early halibrands being produced in the 40's (possibly earlier) but I think if you want an early 60's look thin WW's and mags work but not wide white walls and mags.

49ratfink
10-18-2006, 11:01 AM
one more vote for a big NO on wide whites with torque thrusts...

Richard D
10-18-2006, 11:12 AM
one more vote for a big NO on wide whites with torque thrusts...
I'm gonna do it anyway! Why? Because I can!

Redneck Smooth
10-18-2006, 11:15 AM
I've had this image in my head for years of a '59 or '60 GM 2D post car with Torque-thrust mags and wide-whites, pie-cut slicks in the back. Slightly jacked up in the rear. I guess maybe I am a redneck.

Richard D
10-18-2006, 11:16 AM
I guess maybe I am a redneck.
Why do you say that like it's a bad thing?

NITROFC
10-18-2006, 11:17 AM
I'd consider Radirs with WWW long before I'd ever look at Torq Thrusts...

Have you considered Radirs?

Just an idea...

~Scotch~

got my vote !!!

Redneck Smooth
10-18-2006, 11:20 AM
Why do you say that like it's a bad thing?

I didn't say it was a bad thing.

flatblackindustries
10-18-2006, 11:52 AM
I have an existing set of polished American Torq on the truck right now. I am just kicking around this idea so I don't have to spring for new wheels too. Front is 14" - Rears are 15"

GreenMtnBoy
10-18-2006, 01:14 PM
That truck is SCREAMING for black 16" steelies and blackwall biasplys.

DrJ
10-18-2006, 02:06 PM
My opinion is that by the times mag wheels became popular (early 60's) people were into the thinner whitewalls and wide whites were out. There may be a few exceptions with early halibrands being produced in the 40's (possibly earlier) but I think if you want an early 60's look thin WW's and mags work but not wide white walls and mags.

I agree with this so much I thought I wrote it...
Except;
In the case of the first gen style Am. Torq Thrusts like on the El Camino.
They look ok and usually good with WWWs on a pre '62 because they were around then.
But the A pickup has 2nd gen style wheels are too new so they wouldn't work with WWW's, skinny whites Red lines, Blue ovals, gold letters what's on it now, but not WWW's

I think people don't realize that since Coker is popping them out now, WWW's are more available than they were in the 60's.
I remember when my Older Brother wanted a set for his '53 Chevy in '63 he couldn't find any anywhere except "$pecial Order"

If you're looking for some color or contrast, paint the truck.

Richard D
10-18-2006, 02:19 PM
I have some unlabled Torq Thrust copies, the spokes aren't curved like those above. They are aluminum spokes and outer lip, but steel undeneath. I also have some E-Ts with painted spokes. Your opinion on WWWs with these?

flatblackindustries
10-18-2006, 02:28 PM
The truck will be painted in due time. Gottat finish the body work first.
Thanks for all the input. This has been helpfull.
DrJ thanks for the timeframes.

Bugman
10-18-2006, 05:57 PM
Here's a car from work. It's got TTs with a tri-bar spinner, and Coker radial WWWs. I can get better pics tomarrow if your interested.

63CadGuy
10-18-2006, 08:34 PM
This is my old Caddy and the reason I like it with the wide whites is it ties in with the white flaked roof and my caddy had wide white bias plys on it when I got it.

Roothawg
10-18-2006, 08:44 PM
I think mag wheels and wide whites looks weird. Don't hate me.....I just think it looks odd.

negativeMatt
10-18-2006, 08:48 PM
I think mag wheels and wide whites looks weird. Don't hate me.....I just think it looks odd.


not me...i dig em! what looks weird are wrinkle wall slicks on a vintage dragster!! ;) :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/kustomscaraudio/slick1.jpg

Roothawg
10-18-2006, 08:50 PM
Now the pie crust slicks look ok cause most old drag slicks were recapped WWW. But guys putting WWW on slots, torq thrusts and basically anything aluminum looks odd to me.

Oh and the first tire mfg that builds a set of piecrust for a 16" halibrand....sign me up.

Tim
10-18-2006, 08:53 PM
usaly i dont like it but it looks good on that slick up there and its always looked DAMN good on bleeds green roadster

negativeMatt
10-18-2006, 09:06 PM
Now the pie crust slicks look ok cause most old drag slicks were recapped WWW. But guys putting WWW on slots, torq thrusts and basically anything aluminum looks odd to me.

Oh and the first tire mfg that builds a set of piecrust for a 16" halibrand....sign me up.



that is a 16" piecrust slick, but you don't like recaps. this one is one of HOTRODRUBBER's products. mighty fine in my opinion.

DragginWagon
10-20-2006, 09:06 PM
Looks good to me!

BigWigRaceCars
10-20-2006, 09:32 PM
Here's another one. I like it. I also think it would look as good or better with Radirs.

Flathead Youngin'
10-20-2006, 09:36 PM
i over looked this thread about 3 times thinking....nah, don't think they'd look right


that elky makes be think differently!

Gambino_Kustoms
10-20-2006, 11:04 PM
My opinion is that by the times mag wheels became popular (early 60's) people were into the thinner whitewalls and wide whites were out. There may be a few exceptions with early halibrands being produced in the 40's (possibly earlier) but I think if you want an early 60's look thin WW's and mags work but not wide white walls and mags.
alot of kustoms on the show circute in the 60's had wide white walls in my a pinion what ever the era is when you speak of white walls and who ran em alot of the time it came down to who had the money

Thorkle Rod
10-20-2006, 11:16 PM
Really not a good look

Grumpy
10-20-2006, 11:41 PM
Here's a pic of a 48 p/u I used to own(now owned by another HAMBer)

I thought it looked cool

dave s
10-20-2006, 11:58 PM
i love the look of WWW's on the radir wheels.... it has a 60's showcar vibe to it.

chopndrop
10-21-2006, 12:58 AM
not polished
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2231/may29476at4.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may29476at4.jpg)

flatblackindustries
10-21-2006, 01:17 AM
not polished
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2231/may29476at4.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=may29476at4.jpg)

chopndrop,

Now thats what I needed to see.

Slimegreeeeeen
10-21-2006, 06:54 AM
This is my old Caddy and the reason I like it with the wide whites is it ties in with the white flaked roof and my caddy had wide white bias plys on it when I got it.


Just when you think something doesn't work, someone comes along and disproves your theory. Wheels look great on the Caddy, hideous on the
T-Bird. Go figure. My 2 cents: old skool Torq Thrust D's with the gray finish and the peaked fronts on the spokes look real nice with WWW's. If you're
wanting shiny, I'd go radir b4 non-D-style Torqs. There, now I can go back to sleep.

Slimegreeeeeen
10-21-2006, 07:39 AM
not me...i dig em! what looks weird are wrinkle wall slicks on a vintage dragster!! ;) :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/kustomscaraudio/slick1.jpg

This is the perfect torq thrust to run with WW's. IMHO.

Slimegreeeeeen
10-21-2006, 07:42 AM
Here's a pic of a 48 p/u I used to own(now owned by another HAMBer)

I thought it looked cool

Again. The D looks great to my eye.

fifty4twodoor
10-21-2006, 08:27 AM
it's all in the persons own taste, everybody has their own opinion, do what you like, just because they don't like it, dosen't mean you won't, so just do it.

Rusk
10-21-2006, 08:44 AM
It just depends on the car...to me, this Merc doesn't look right with 'em. But an early '60s Caddy...now we're talking.

Bryan

Roothawg
10-21-2006, 09:27 AM
that is a 16" piecrust slick, but you don't like recaps. this one is one of HOTRODRUBBER's products. mighty fine in my opinion.

But have you driven on them yet? Do they hook?

Packrat
10-21-2006, 05:40 PM
I've been wondering how WWW's would look on Americans myself lately, glad this thread came up. I've got some old TT's on my '57, thinking about wide whites. Gotta agree with some of you all , in my opinion, they look pretty good with the older wheels, not so good on the later wheels.

flatblackindustries
10-21-2006, 05:50 PM
I did a side by side comparison. I think I am leaning towards the classic steelies.

Chaz
10-21-2006, 06:17 PM
I'm fond of the look

http://people.montana.com/~kaparich/drive3.JPG

flatblackindustries
10-21-2006, 06:27 PM
Chaz,

What is the make on those? I love those rears.

devinshaw
10-21-2006, 07:26 PM
I think the wide whites look pretty good on them, but definately period correct, if you care. I think the thin whites probably look better in those. I have a 65 belaire 4 door slammed on astro supremes and ran the 1 1/4 white walls and I love it.

Big Dad
10-21-2006, 07:43 PM
White walls and custom rims work for me ..
back in the day, only high rollers got white walls ..that is why they were on some of the slick rods ..

I agree, you like it, put them on .. who gives a shit what some other person thinks


I'm sure Ed Big Daddy Roth really worried about what anyone thought ..and he/ rat fink are icons ---imo

negativeMatt
10-21-2006, 07:53 PM
But have you driven on them yet? Do they hook?


naw root, i haven't driven on them yet. i bought them for two reasons, 1 ,the price was right, and 2, i wanted to run these 16" wheel.i've seen alot of guys runnin recaps at the drags, so i'm sure they'll be fine when i'm ready to go. i'm sure they won't hook like a wrinkle wall, but i'm gonna do more street driving than track driving, so i'm not too worried about their "hooking" ability. i've read others replies about cody's tires and they have been pleased. i'm hoping to have this thing done by next years roundup, i'll know more about the driveability by then!

matt

Chaz
10-21-2006, 08:20 PM
Chaz,

What is the make on those? I love those rears.

The fronts wheels are vintage Crestlines 14x6 . Coker Firestone bias ply on front.
The Rears are 15 x10 Chromies. Rears are Coker Firestone Bias ply Cheater slicks also 15x10. Coker was great to deal with by the way.

Big Dad
10-21-2006, 09:17 PM
naw root, i haven't driven on them yet. i bought them for two reasons, 1 ,the price was right, and 2, i wanted to run these 16" wheel.i've seen alot of guys runnin recaps at the drags, so i'm sure they'll be fine when i'm ready to go. i'm sure they won't hook like a wrinkle wall, but i'm gonna do more street driving than track driving, so i'm not too worried about their "hooking" ability. i've read others replies about cody's tires and they have been pleased. i'm hoping to have this thing done by next years roundup, i'll know more about the driveability by then!

matt
Hey Matt , dig the Merc 1/4's --going to be cool deck lid

negativeMatt
10-21-2006, 09:36 PM
Hey Matt , dig the Merc 1/4's --going to be cool deck lid



thanks!!! i got the lid put on it yesterday. i'm ready to get it finished.

i was bummed i didn't get to see the desoto down on the ground. the new wheels looked good on it.

Big Dad
10-21-2006, 09:47 PM
thanks!!! i got the lid put on it yesterday. i'm ready to get it finished.

i was bummed i didn't get to see the desoto down on the ground. the new wheels looked good on it.
Richard had a tear in his eye I think !!!
Looks pretty neat really,-- If you want to stop by sometime, I'm just west of Ponder off 380


On yours,take your time, it is going to BE the shit when done--

hemi
10-22-2006, 12:04 AM
Cast finish on thumbwalled slicks on the rear only....

hemi
10-22-2006, 12:14 AM
it's all in the persons own taste, everybody has their own opinion, do what you like, just because they don't like it, dosen't mean you won't, so just do it.

Not to pick on ya, 'cause I read this on here a lot. but this is what's wrong with America these days. Nobody has the guts to tell another person what they did is ugly.

We gotta be all nice and say "It's his car, let him do what he wants.." Well, if he can build it, and I gotta sear the image into my brain, and it causes me to cringe.... I can say what I want.

Case in point, the gold Merc that was at the Bailon show. I saw it from far away, and said "yeah!" practically ran over to it, saw the gawd-awful mess in the fenderwells and felt stunned like I had pissed on an electric fence.

With wheels and tires in particular, they make or break a car. PhatCaddy's (or whatever his name is) big gold Cad had big billets that didn't really work with the body mods, he swapped out the rolling stock and now gets thumbs up.

The five spokes are a performance wheel. Whitewalls, unless recapped onto a slick, are not. They fight themselves. The early cast-finished skinnies on some really old looking fronts, like on the gray coupe, might fly, but for the most part it's like mixing apples into the orange juice.

That's my opinion... and that's what was asked for. Muwhahahaha.

twofosho
10-22-2006, 12:47 AM
Last full year of the WWWs on production cars was 61. My Dad's 62 Galaxie demo (he was a car salesman from the time I was 5 until long after I got out of the Navy) was the first car I saw with the narrower one's. And that doesn't mean they got common right away, you saw lots of WWWs up through 65 or so. Quite common to see Americans, Cragar Super Sports, deep dish chromes, and who knows what else sporting the WWWs. My high school parking lot certainly had it's fair share. In particular I remember them on a Model A coupe and more than a few 60 and 61 Chevs.

I had a set on a black 61 Newport convertible (413 with a factory 3 speed and white gut, the proverbial one I let get away) in the fall of 65. They were mounted on chrome wheels with the radial slotted flat centers, no caps, just chrome lugs (I'll bet no one here remembers those, but they were affordable, and looked damn good in my opinion).

Once again, if you like the look of the wide whites on your rig with your wheels, don't let the conformance police stop you, run em.

weemark
10-22-2006, 03:55 AM
i always thought of going with wwws on my tt's - there were a few people who said it would look a bit off, but went with my idea and i liked it - after i put them on there seemed to be a surge of others who done the same thing. i get lots of comments still - some like it some dont, more seem to though.

here are some pics of mine on the car, you can see it with blackwalls and whitewalls. got some steelies for the blackwalls now.

http://www.garagescene.co.uk/ford/whitewalls/whitewalls.html

53vicky
12-07-2010, 08:41 PM
I know its been years since this thread has been up on here,
but how many ppl are still doing this?
Iv got this set up on my 53 and i had a tough time getting into a show this year..


btt

Dean Lowe
12-08-2010, 01:50 AM
I ran white walls with mag Torque Thrusts for about 3 months in '61. Then I came to my senses, shit canned the wheels and tires, and went to polished Halibrands and black walls. Don't let anyone tell you it's "traditional" 'cause it's not.



http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1759&pictureid=242888

2many projects
12-08-2010, 02:07 AM
Just my 2 cents worth but alloy style (or) mag wheels look better with blackwalls. Gives it a nice competition look.
Their okay with thin pinstripe whitewalls but not too great looking with wide whites. ( Too much bling),
Red lines, gold lines or blue-streaks are very acceptable too.
Like I said...............just my humble opinion.

Dynaflash_8
12-08-2010, 02:11 AM
I have an existing set of polished American Torq on the truck right now. I am just kicking around this idea so I don't have to spring for new wheels too. Front is 14" - Rears are 15"

Get those things off there now!!!!

Deuces
12-08-2010, 02:13 AM
I likes'em with redlines also.... :D

bowtie56jw
12-08-2010, 02:21 AM
Anyone got pictures of American Torq Thrust (polished) with white walls?
they look bitchin.....on the right car.

model.A.keith
12-08-2010, 03:04 AM
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s116/modelakeith/shakeyaug08038-1.jpg?t=1291798847

Little Terry
12-08-2010, 03:10 AM
when I was at school I always dreamt of building a shaved black Mk3 Ford Zodiac with a BBF, Torque Thrusts and white-walls.

Maybe I will one day :)

Mark.

53vicky
12-08-2010, 03:13 AM
Anyone got pictures of American Torq Thrust (polished) with white walls?
they look bitchin.....on the right car.


http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=11994&pictureid=238406

heres mine, some ppl give me shit for them, but who gives a damn what others think.
I'll build my car how i fucking want to damn it!!

langy
12-08-2010, 03:14 AM
On my daily F100


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/stevelangylang/F100/56f10028.jpg

53vicky
12-08-2010, 03:17 AM
On my daily F100


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h229/stevelangylang/F100/56f10028.jpg

langy...all i can say, is damn that looks good!

langy
12-08-2010, 03:20 AM
Thanks


langy...all i can say, is damn that looks good!

Ngo Long Dong
12-08-2010, 03:21 AM
Imperialist Pigs! We roll whitewalls on steelies! We OG!

Deuces
12-08-2010, 03:40 AM
Ummmm..... Huh???

themoose
12-08-2010, 08:18 AM
From the 60's

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=20839&pictureid=225755

brucer
12-08-2010, 08:27 AM
I did a side by side comparison. I think I am leaning towards the classic steelies.


see what some reversed chromies would look like..

i like supremes and www's also

lowphat53
12-08-2010, 11:57 AM
I think they look good! Not everyone can afford RADIR wheels as they are pricey. I do like RADIRS myself and plan to have some one day but if your wallet isn't thick enough I think this setup works. Here is my brother's old truck with WWW and torque thrust wheels.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/tilleysspeedandcustoms/DSC02786.jpg

theHIGHLANDER
12-08-2010, 12:16 PM
The well informed called it right. WWWs and mags is an honest tribute to the days of the show rod. Really nice 60s vibe. I personally love those days and the car's unique looks from back then. Clearly a chrome reverse and WWW are the most popular way of expressing it but the mags work too. If that's where you're going you can't miss. Mags and blackwalls are more drag/muscle looking, or even more "street rod". Redlines are also musclecarish and thin whites are more lowriderish. Keep in mind that these are all my opinions...which you asked for.

falcongeorge
12-08-2010, 12:26 PM
My opinion is that by the times mag wheels became popular (early 60's) people were into the thinner whitewalls and wide whites were out.


times two. And definitely not on torque thrust D's! Correct for a for a circa 2000-2010 look, but not sixties look.

falcongeorge
12-08-2010, 12:29 PM
Not to pick on ya, 'cause I read this on here a lot. but this is what's wrong with America these days. Nobody has the guts to tell another person what they did is ugly.

We gotta be all nice and say "It's his car, let him do what he wants.." Well, if he can build it, and I gotta sear the image into my brain, and it causes me to cringe.... I can say what I want.

Case in point, the gold Merc that was at the Bailon show. I saw it from far away, and said "yeah!" practically ran over to it, saw the gawd-awful mess in the fenderwells and felt stunned like I had pissed on an electric fence.

With wheels and tires in particular, they make or break a car. PhatCaddy's (or whatever his name is) big gold Cad had big billets that didn't really work with the body mods, he swapped out the rolling stock and now gets thumbs up.

The five spokes are a performance wheel. Whitewalls, unless recapped onto a slick, are not. They fight themselves. The early cast-finished skinnies on some really old looking fronts, like on the gray coupe, might fly, but for the most part it's like mixing apples into the orange juice.

That's my opinion... and that's what was asked for. Muwhahahaha.

Post of the month!

Gator
12-08-2010, 02:57 PM
Personally, most of the time I think they look like ASS - and not a nice smooth pear shaped ass, but a big fat hairy one.

A few cars pull it off sure, but most of the time it just looks conflicted.

Here's an example of a truck I sold, I ran it with blackwalls, the guy that bought it ran right out and put the biggest WWW radials he could find on it (does it with every car he owns)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/mojogator/striping/larrya2.jpg

Another Hamber owns it now:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/mojogator/Past%20projects/Pickup/apickup.jpg

Again, just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

langy
12-08-2010, 03:00 PM
Looked good both ways to me !!!


Personally, most of the time I think they look like ASS - and not a nice smooth pear shaped ass, but a big fat hairy one.

A few cars pull it off sure, but most of the time it just looks conflicted.

Here's an example of a truck I sold, I ran it with blackwalls, the guy that bought it ran right out and put the biggest WWW radials he could find on it (does it with every car he owns)

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/mojogator/striping/larrya2.jpg

Another Hamber owns it now:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/mojogator/Past%20projects/Pickup/apickup.jpg

Again, just my opinion, your mileage may vary.

chubbie
12-08-2010, 03:03 PM
I like it..........

Gator
12-08-2010, 03:15 PM
Looked good both ways to me !!!

Haha thanks. I ran blackwalls, the next guy ran WWW's, looks like the present owner went back to blackwalls. The truck was pretty much unchanged other than that.

I dig your Effie too, although I'm also not a big fan of www's on any truck... although I did run portawalls a friend gave me on my '53 F100. I'm running blackwalls on the new Cragar Eliminators on my '55.


http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e72/mojogator/55%20pickup/burnoutcrop.jpg

I guess it's all just a matter of personal taste.

Gator Mc Klusky
12-08-2010, 03:58 PM
I ran white walls with mag Torque Thrusts for about 3 months in '61. Then I came to my senses, shit canned the wheels and tires, and went to polished Halibrands and black walls. Don't let anyone tell you it's "traditional" 'cause it's not.



http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1759&pictureid=242888
What's wrong with these? And why not traditional? (A word nearly as annoying as rat rods by the way) So the pic is from '61 then it's period correct ain't it? I like it. The car also!

Rocky
12-08-2010, 04:01 PM
I personally don't care for whitewalls and Americans. Just my opinion.

Spork!
12-08-2010, 04:19 PM
I personally don't care for whitewalls and Americans. Just my opinion.


If you don't like Americans maybe you should go back to what ever goddam country you're from!




Oh wait, did your mean the wheels? :D:eek:

49ratfink
12-08-2010, 04:30 PM
one more vote for a big NO on wide whites with torque thrusts...


didn't like wide whites with Torque thrusts in 2006 and like them even less in 2010.

53vicky
12-08-2010, 04:38 PM
If you don't like Americans maybe you should go back to what ever goddam country you're from!




Oh wait, did your mean the wheels? :D:eek:


hahah!!!

Richard D
12-08-2010, 05:26 PM
Imperialist Pigs! We roll whitewalls on steelies! We OG!
HAHAHAHA! Love me long time!

Richard D
12-08-2010, 05:31 PM
thin whites are more lowriderish..
I was worried these wouldn't look good, but they were in the garage, so I tried them out. So far, lots of folks have given compliments.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/rdaugird/1965%20Buick%20Riviera/P7292829.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/rdaugird/1965%20Buick%20Riviera/P7292830.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/rdaugird/1965%20Buick%20Riviera/P7292831.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/rdaugird/1965%20Buick%20Riviera/P7292832.jpg

RetroSteel
12-08-2010, 06:53 PM
Here's my '27 with Radirs with wide whites
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh215/RetroSteel/4-1.jpg

t-buckethead
12-08-2010, 08:46 PM
just added to my 30 along with some paint..

hemi
12-08-2010, 10:45 PM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=11994&pictureid=238406

heres mine, some ppl give me shit for them, but who gives a damn what others think.
I'll build my car how i fucking want to damn it!!

Dude... you drag this thread up from 2006, and want to know if it's okay to have the wrong wheel and tire combo on your car NOW, and then blast with a "I'll build my car how i fucking want to damn it!!" statement?

It doesn't matter what year or when.. fifty years from now.... they still don't go well together, (with VERY few exceptions) and the cars shown here clearly illustrate that... Stevie Wonder could see it. Do some homework instead of trying to bend the class to your version.

If you are blinded by shiny chrome banana spokes and white walls--- especially radial whitewalls -- and think it looks good, then you don't fully understand what you are looking at, and THAT is the dilution of "fads" and what makes a car a great traditional car or a traditionally-inspired car.

Why not include all shiny wheels like Weld wheels, 14" rally wheels, or Eagle five stars... as long as they are shiny and wrapped in a whitewall, it has to be traditional, right?

rob-redm
12-08-2010, 11:15 PM
ribbon whites on my Torque Thrust D's

Gator Mc Klusky
12-09-2010, 12:21 AM
Here, on my El Camino...
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163072.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163075.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163077.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163078.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163080.jpg
http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/163081.jpg

By the way, they're spelled Torq Thrust...:D

Funny that this thread came up on the day I was searching for old mag wheel pics on google.
What really sucked on my El Camino was the 3 Outlet on the Lake Pipes. horrible. I took them of shortly when I was home. These pics were taken when I drove it home from sweden.

Other than that, the wide whitewalls work perfectly with the original white painted sidespear of the Elky. That's one of those secrets of it's good look.

And five spokes or slotmags are nearly a must for cars in my collection. They just always look good. Mine were on the car, and are the "modern" TT 2 in 6x14 with bias ply's undriveables. On 120 mph on the Autobahn it got a bit scary with a not very tight steering and front end. This will be changed. Also I want my old Torq Thrust T 70 polished and on the car. They are 7" and I hope they will go with the tires. Otherwise I might also go for radials. As long it is low, it works. Sadly those white radials have the totally modern pattern. Why didn't they took another older one. Then u couldn't tell the difference that easyl
The rear wheels need spacers or a different et anyhow. Way too far in there. Astros would be nice, if they weren't such an sorry, american aftermarket junk. Even a wheaterforcast with the saying it might rain in 2 weeks, get them to rust. If u think of drivin' u'r car they might get loose, crack or become more unround as they are. :rolleyes:

53vicky
12-09-2010, 12:26 AM
Dude... you drag this thread up from 2006, and want to know if it's okay to have the wrong wheel and tire combo on your car NOW, and then blast with a "I'll build my car how i fucking want to damn it!!" statement?

It doesn't matter what year or when.. fifty years from now.... they still don't go well together, (with VERY few exceptions) and the cars shown here clearly illustrate that... Stevie Wonder could see it. Do some homework instead of trying to bend the class to your version.

If you are blinded by shiny chrome banana spokes and white walls--- especially radial whitewalls -- and think it looks good, then you don't fully understand what you are looking at, and THAT is the dilution of "fads" and what makes a car a great traditional car or a traditionally-inspired car.

Why not include all shiny wheels like Weld wheels, 14" rally wheels, or Eagle five stars... as long as they are shiny and wrapped in a whitewall, it has to be traditional, right?


All i got outta that is "Im an old man who has nothing better to do with my life than bitch at people who like different things"

If its such a problem with ya,
buy me some bias ply white walls and some spider caps for my steelies and ill put them on just to make you happy, how does that sound???
I would love some new wheels!
If you have that much time to write that much about somethin i think is kinda cool, you must have an extra $700 to drop for me right?!

how about you post some pics of your vw or your 73 sebring...I sure those are totally hamb friendly!

Deuces
12-09-2010, 02:03 AM
Now that's funny... :)

tommy
12-09-2010, 07:00 AM
I ran white walls with mag Torque Thrusts for about 3 months in '61. Then I came to my senses, shit canned the wheels and tires, and went to polished Halibrands and black walls. Don't let anyone tell you it's "traditional" 'cause it's not.



http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1759&pictureid=242888

Amen brother Lowe! There were a few but in my area...very few. This is a completely different time today. If you look back at magazines to bolster your idea of what actually happened, remember the cars in the old magazines were state of the art for that era. I didn't live in that high roller world.

In the world that I grew up in, Mag wheels wore blackwalls and were usually on performance oriented hotrods. Chrome wheels wore whitewalls. Quite often draped in angel hair and lots of chrome at the shows. They were often trailer queen show cars.

We include them today as one hobby but they were 2 different hobbies back then. The expression of the day was..."If it don't go...chrome it" Meaning if it's not fast decorate it all up with chrome and WWW. It was a derogatory statement.

I see it all the time today. It still makes me cringe. Do it any way that you want but don't try to rewrite the history that I lived through. Were there exceptions? Sure but their ears were probably burning from all the snickering behind their backs.

hemi
12-09-2010, 07:35 AM
how about you post some pics of your vw or your 73 sebring...I sure those are totally hamb friendly!

Not Hamb-friendly, but they make sense... I'm not asking questions about them and looking for an attaboy.

Grumpy old man - that's awesome....

zman
12-09-2010, 07:55 AM
What's wrong with these? And why not traditional? (A word nearly as annoying as rat rods by the way) So the pic is from '61 then it's period correct ain't it? I like it. The car also!

If the word traditional bothers you, then sir, you are on the wrong forum. That's what this place is about...

didn't like wide whites with Torque thrusts in 2006 and like them even less in 2010.

x2

hemi
12-09-2010, 08:16 AM
I would love some new wheels!
If you have that much time to write that much about somethin i think is kinda cool, you must have an extra $700 to drop for me right?!


For the record I think and type fast, but I'll type it slow so you can follow me... :D <---- Humor, lighten up Francis.

I'm not a rocket scientist, (but I'd play one on TV) but if you *really* wanted to change your wheels up, you could sell your banana spokes to somebody and use that money to buy a set of these:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/wvi-64-5712044_w.jpg

NOT these because they are ugly also:

http://high-performance-wheels.com/images/cragar-chrome-smoothie-wheel.jpg

and put your wide whites on them and *Poof!* your wheels would make sense, and your car would not attract the negative comments you say you have been getting, and you wouldn't get turned away at shows like you were complaining about... those steelies are dirt cheap, you'd probably have money left over for chrome lug nuts and a can of white or red paint for your hubs.

Read the title of the thread. I was here for the first round... still here.... still be here when it comes up again in 2015... still won't like them because they still won't make sense.
:D:D:D

mbmopar
12-09-2010, 10:17 AM
I like the look of them, for the front wheels anyways, think I'll have an issue finding a thinner whitewall on a wide rear tire unless I outsource to the US :D

theHIGHLANDER
12-09-2010, 12:20 PM
Hey Richard, I certainly was NOT dissin the lowrider look. And your car on the ground, thin whites and mags, well, you sorta made my point. And you should get compliments with a laid out Riv. Bitchin...


I was worried these wouldn't look good, but they were in the garage, so I tried them out. So far, lots of folks have given compliments.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/rdaugird/1965%20Buick%20Riviera/P7292829.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/rdaugird/1965%20Buick%20Riviera/P7292830.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/rdaugird/1965%20Buick%20Riviera/P7292831.jpg

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q136/rdaugird/1965%20Buick%20Riviera/P7292832.jpg

Gator Mc Klusky
12-09-2010, 12:27 PM
If the word traditional bothers you, then sir, you are on the wrong forum. That's what this place is about...



x2

Not really. It's not the traditional cars, it's the traditional, more traditional, the traditionallest. U know what I mean. It gets a bit toooo sometimes. U can't share the whole car/Hot Rod hobby from back then over one comb.

Way back then, they made this, and that, and not just "this". I think way back then they just did what they wanted and what was laying around. And of course there were themes on the cars. But they mixed it up also. So I like the term period correct better. Torq Thrust were available in
59, so it was possible to have them on a car with white whites and still won't look like from outer space. U know. Just my 2 cents.

Bigdaddyhemi
12-09-2010, 12:29 PM
So I am in the same boat. I just ordered some Diamond Back's and my son came up with this. If it dosnt work I will find some steelies. Input is appreciated though

hemi
12-09-2010, 12:31 PM
So I am in the same boat. I just ordered some Diamond Back's and my son came up with this. If it dosnt work I will find some steelies. Input is appreciated though

Holy cow! :eek::eek::eek: I was joking... Please don't do that to that car.


I will add to my other post that if chrome steelies are still to expensive, they made these things in the '50s called hubcaps... go great with whitewalls.

63Biscuit
12-09-2010, 12:33 PM
I'd consider Radirs with WWW long before I'd ever look at Torq Thrusts...

Have you considered Radirs?



+1

Gotta say though, that Elky photo'd above is bitchin'!

53vicky
12-09-2010, 12:41 PM
For the record I think and type fast, but I'll type it slow so you can follow me... :D <---- Humor, lighten up Francis.

I'm not a rocket scientist, (but I'd play one on TV) but if you *really* wanted to change your wheels up, you could sell your banana spokes to somebody and use that money to buy a set of these:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/wvi-64-5712044_w.jpg

NOT these because they are ugly also:

http://high-performance-wheels.com/images/cragar-chrome-smoothie-wheel.jpg

and put your wide whites on them and *Poof!* your wheels would make sense, and your car would not attract the negative comments you say you have been getting, and you wouldn't get turned away at shows like you were complaining about... those steelies are dirt cheap, you'd probably have money left over for chrome lug nuts and a can of white or red paint for your hubs.

Read the title of the thread. I was here for the first round... still here.... still be here when it comes up again in 2015... still won't like them because they still won't make sense.
:D:D:D

...or ill run what i want

hemi
12-09-2010, 12:44 PM
Not really. It's not the traditional cars, it's the traditional, more traditional, theTorq Thrust were available in
59, so it was possible to have them on a car with white whites and still won't look like from outer space. U know. Just my 2 cents.

But they were introduced as a performance wheel for racing... even their name is performance oriented: Torq Thrust.

If they found their way onto a car with wide whites, it would have probably been a cast-centered wheel with a leftover whitewall and probably on the front, as in the gray coupe from earlier.... Even Dean who was there and did it has said that it was a short-lived mistake. By the time mags were coming out, wide whites were leaving. They were shrinking into skinny stripes, changing colors like red and blue, and then they disappeared. Racing cars then brought on the white letter tire... It's a cross-contamination of eras and it looks bad.

Furthermore, the new TT II wheels made today are not as good looking as the old ones...

I hate to harp on this stuff, but the wheels and tires make or break any car... It's like putting a chick in a prom dress, doing her hair and makeup, and then shoeing her with some Reeboks. Why fall flat on the home stretch with one of the most visible parts of the package?

And if you like it, fine, but understand it's not right and don't get offended when people say stuff about it. You are making a conscious decision to plow ahead in the wrong direction on your own accord.

hemi
12-09-2010, 12:46 PM
...or ill run what i want

LOL.. and live with the comments.

Notice I said nothing about the Panamerica off-road rally car stance? :D:D

53vicky
12-09-2010, 12:49 PM
Hey hemi, iv actually gotten more compliments than complaints on it.
I have only had 2 people get upset because of them.

it actually kinda makes me laugh that you are sooo passionate about this lol

53vicky
12-09-2010, 12:51 PM
LOL.. and live with the comments.

Notice I said nothing about the Panamerica off-road rally car stance? :D:D

haha now thats funny!
because this is the stock heigth.

hemi
12-09-2010, 12:58 PM
Frankly I am passionate because I have to look at about 40,000 cars a year for work, and when somebody sees something like Weld wheels with wide whites, and they are clueless, then they go home and think "I have shiny wheels, I want to be cool, I'm going to order some wide whites" and it mutates. I've seen wide whites on everything from Corvette rallys to slot mags to the three spoked Ultra wheels from Sears. It's exactly what happened with rat rods. Somebody saw it done and made their version, and after three generations of mis-information you have chain link door panels and screw drivers for gas pedals.

It directly affects me... my eyes, my brain, what I can or can not photograph, what makes sense. If something like bitching on this thread helps ONE guy... (Like the Bigdaddyhemi's car) then that's good, because then his car won't infect three more uninformed hot rodders and spread the disease of bad taste or ignorance.

There is a method to the madness and not knowing is not an excuse... "I didn't know it was illegal to open my neighbor's mail..." Still wrong.

hemi
12-09-2010, 12:59 PM
haha now thats funny!
because this is the stock heigth.

It looks like it... ;)

hemi
12-09-2010, 01:05 PM
Education will prevent things like this:

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q50/eyerush/154223_1748888564593_1310212463_31937481_5424799_n .jpg

53vicky
12-09-2010, 01:09 PM
Frankly I am passionate because I have to look at about 40,000 cars a year for work, and when somebody sees something like Weld wheels with wide whites, and they are clueless, then they go home and think "I have shiny wheels, I want to be cool, I'm going to order some wide whites" and it mutates. I've seen wide whites on everything from Corvette rallys to slot mags to the three spoked Ultra wheels from Sears. It's exactly what happened with rat rods. Somebody saw it done and made their version, and after three generations of mis-information you have chain link door panels and screw drivers for gas pedals.

It directly affects me... my eyes, my brain, what I can or can not photograph, what makes sense. If something like bitching on this thread helps ONE guy... (Like the Bigdaddyhemi's car) then that's good, because then his car won't infect three more uninformed hot rodders and spread the disease of bad taste or ignorance.

There is a method to the madness and not knowing is not an excuse... "I didn't know it was illegal to open my neighbor's mail..." Still wrong.

Hahaha and if it makes your day yelling at a 18 y/o who is getting into the sport and an older guy who has an 88 olds with the same wheel set up who got a great deal...go on ahead.
how about you post a picture of your face so i can comment on how ugly that is?

lastly, to be fair, i have thought about painting my steelies black, putting spiders caps, and getting some white walls for them to run for the tradtional shows that i like to go to, when i get the money.
These wheels were actually a gift from my grandmother who knew i liked them, whos car this was in the first place and she really likes thus set up.

I betyour one of those people that goes to car shows not to enjoy the people who share the same passion, but to point out every flaw in every car because only YOUR car is perfect.....your non hamb friendly carS that is. lol still havent seen any pictures of those perfect cars...

ok, and just because i am tired of this immature bullshit,
STFU! If you can think fast enough to know what that stands for. lol

because i really could GIVE A FUCK what some guy from the other side of the country who doesnt know me or seen the car in real life cares. lol

Have a nice day :)

zman
12-09-2010, 01:14 PM
Not really. It's not the traditional cars, it's the traditional, more traditional, the traditionallest. U know what I mean. It gets a bit toooo sometimes. U can't share the whole car/Hot Rod hobby from back then over one comb.

Way back then, they made this, and that, and not just "this". I think way back then they just did what they wanted and what was laying around. And of course there were themes on the cars. But they mixed it up also. So I like the term period correct better. Torq Thrust were available in
59, so it was possible to have them on a car with white whites and still won't look like from outer space. U know. Just my 2 cents.

Traditional and period correct are two different things, yes they can overlap, but they are different. And like I said, if it bothers you, then you're in the wrong place. :rolleyes:


...or ill run what i want

and we'll still comment.... :D


ok, and just because i am tired of this immature bullshit,


then shut up already... :eek:

FC49
12-09-2010, 01:14 PM
I have some unlabled Torq Thrust copies, the spokes aren't curved like those above. They are aluminum spokes and outer lip, but steel undeneath. I also have some E-Ts with painted spokes. Your opinion on WWWs with these?

The look brings to mind the Bruce recap slicks of the 50s mounted on American "mags." Lots of them used wide whites for cores, although some guys mounted them black-side-out.

Nice thing about owning a car is you can do any damn thing you want with it, no matter what anyone else likes. Be honest now, how many of us have done things to our cars, bikes, etc., just to piss certain people off?

Frank C.

53vicky
12-09-2010, 01:17 PM
So i had this in mind for a second set, and when i get the time and money to lower it i would, iv had this for over a month now

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1157506&d=1290528522 (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1157506&d=1290528522)

hemi
12-09-2010, 01:37 PM
So i had this in mind for a second set, and when i get the time and money to lower it i would, iv had this for over a month now

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1157506&d=1290528522 (http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1157506&d=1290528522)

Rad... See, now that looks good.

You brought the thread up and was asking why you had trouble getting into what I would guess would be VLV or Billetproof where they screen entrants. I answered. I'm sorry that my opinion offends you and yo grannie.

Yes I am ugly, yes I am a little bit older than you,(maybe a grumpy old man in training?), yes I was logged on here when you were 8, no I'm not a self-appointed all-knowing wheel god but I am informed, yes I drive an era-correct '70s style car, no my car isn't perfect at all, (and what I drive has no bearing on whether wide whites and TT II's go together) no I don't LIKE to point out what is wrong with every car, no I'm not insecure, yes I think it's cool you are 18 and driving your granmama's car, no it doesn't make my day helping you with information that you asked for, (and I'm not yelling by any means, I'm a happy guy), I already knew what STFU stands for... Stop Those Fucking Underage kids from mounting wide whites on Torq Thrusts. :D


Every day is a nice day...

Gator Mc Klusky
12-09-2010, 01:59 PM
But they were introduced as a performance wheel for racing... even their name is performance oriented: Torq Thrust.

If they found their way onto a car with wide whites, it would have probably been a cast-centered wheel with a leftover whitewall and probably on the front, as in the gray coupe from earlier.... Even Dean who was there and did it has said that it was a short-lived mistake. By the time mags were coming out, wide whites were leaving. They were shrinking into skinny stripes, changing colors like red and blue, and then they disappeared. Racing cars then brought on the white letter tire... It's a cross-contamination of eras and it looks bad.

Furthermore, the new TT II wheels made today are not as good looking as the old ones...

I hate to harp on this stuff, but the wheels and tires make or break any car... It's like putting a chick in a prom dress, doing her hair and makeup, and then shoeing her with some Reeboks. Why fall flat on the home stretch with one of the most visible parts of the package?

And if you like it, fine, but understand it's not right and don't get offended when people say stuff about it. You are making a conscious decision to plow ahead in the wrong direction on your own accord.

I'm not offended of course! :)
Right, but I do not get it that Dean made a mistake by doin' it wrong back in '61!?!?!
He didn't like it himself on his car, o.k. but it is certainly not wrong. What is wrong what is right? To me, Hubcaps are always "wrong" as I do not like them. Even if they are right to some.

And I have a pretty good collection of old Mag Wheels and tires. I collect every single one I find over here, which isn't easy. I know about this, and told before, that the TT2's were already there and will be changed. I know also that it is not 100% what was happening mostly back then. The wider ones did not leave on one day ;) I have lots of 60's Rod Mags, and I know about the skinny whites, blackwalls, redlines etc.... Still, this was what was hip, and on the street, there were also cars that were not featured and just had their own style. I like the look of whites and Torq Thrusts (not always of course), and it might not have been the most common thing, and the most up to date thing back then, it did happen. And it is not a Cooper Cobra on a whatever Rat Rod, or shit like the Corvette above. And even if they were "Racing Wheels" what did somebody stop someone to put 'em on his car, or even Racecar? Just like the red one. I like it.

Here's a shot from the late 90's, with my alltime favourite Hot Rod. Sadly it has changed to the still cool Brown Neck Bandito but this was THE ROD for me! Anthony Castaneda's (Shifters) very cool Model A Coupe with Olds mill. Nothing wrong here I think. Dude i was young then. ;) Ah but I'm still good lookin' haha ;)


http://up.picr.de/5821637.jpg

hemi
12-09-2010, 02:16 PM
I heart the BNB... always have, and I'd venture to say that there is a difference between the old straight-spoked Americans (with skinny OLD bias plies) and the TT II's of today. (and to take it a step further away, paired with a fat, white walled radial T/A)

Lots of things were done, and are done, but even now when I look at that picture, I can't help but think it would've been a smidge better with a skinny white or blackwall on the front...

Gator Mc Klusky
12-09-2010, 02:28 PM
On the picture and real is often a big difference, and I know on this pic it looks a bit "very white" Real it looked just right. Skinny whites and blackwalls would be great too.

Jup. The old straight spokes will go on my camino also The bias plys rule. And right, the skinier look good too, so do blackwall bias ply! Great with chrome reverse also, and and till u'r head smokes. Too many wheels and tires out there :D

Good nite..

By the way, I'm searching for the ultimate tire!!! Where can I find sth. like this??
Those Firestones with the gold line. Seems "every" Rod in the later sixties had them on. Nowadays I only have seen them on some Dragster Survivours
http://up.picr.de/5822028.jpg

Richard D
12-09-2010, 11:34 PM
Try Hurst Tires, maybe they can make some.

Richard D
12-09-2010, 11:42 PM
I have some unlabled Torq Thrust copies, the spokes aren't curved like those above. They are aluminum spokes and outer lip, but steel undeneath. I also have some E-Ts with painted spokes. Your opinion on WWWs with these?

The look brings to mind the Bruce recap slicks of the 50s mounted on American "mags." Lots of them used wide whites for cores, although some guys mounted them black-side-out.

Nice thing about owning a car is you can do any damn thing you want with it, no matter what anyone else likes. Be honest now, how many of us have done things to our cars, bikes, etc., just to piss certain people off?

Frank C.
Holy shit, I didn't realize how old this topic was, I asked that question over four years ago! I think Unclee still has those wheels, they have changed hands a few times...

falcongeorge
12-10-2010, 02:56 PM
Nice thing about owning a car is you can do any damn thing you want with it, no matter what anyone else likes. Frank C.

Sure you can, as long as you dont insist on trying to bullshit people that its period correct.

TaylorCrawford
12-10-2010, 03:16 PM
Ya cant go wrong with smoothies or steelies....