Model A home-built chassis plans

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Would anyone out there in Hokey-Land know where I can obtain (buy) any plans, mechanical drawings or bluprints to home-build a frame/chassis for my Model A? I am looking for measurements and some guidance where crossmembers and the like should be located. I want it to sit low without channeling it so I would need to Z at least the back, if not the front as well. Would 2x3 cold rolled square tube for the side rails be strong enough? I plan on going the nostalgia route with drum brakes, dropped I-beam, split wishbones, etc., etc.
Thanks in advance for your time and help!
See y'all in Bako!
Steve Bava
bava17@aol.com

[raven]

Hello?
Intro?

[greaseball]

Hokey-land, eh?
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Fat Hack]

I live in HOCKEY Town! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[4t64rd]

Should we release the hounds? http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[four-thirteen]

I case you haven't figured it out yet there steve, we would like an intro before you start askin a bunch of questions. We don't know if you're a jerk just here to suck information or a super nice guy, and until you post an intro, we just don't know. in concusion, post an intro to let us know who you are. Dave

[El Caballo]

bava, you must prove yourself worthy...

Go into the forest and cut down the mightiest oak with... A HERRING!

If you want it low, put a better than 8" Z in back and a suicide front with a dropped axle. Get the 2x3 with a minimum wall thickness of .188 (3/16). As for placing the motor mounts and tranny mounts; put the body on first, then figure out what looks right by hoisting the engine & tranny into "place". Go from there...

[gears-n-grease]

EL CAB- you might watch suggesting using 2x3 for framing- rickyracer might throw a hissy fit because its not traditional-

[rickyracer1962]

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EL CAB- you might watch suggesting using 2x3 for framing- rickyracer might throw a hissy fit because its not traditional-


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dude who pissed on your chrome smoothie today?

[gears-n-grease]

they have Chrome Smoothies at Smoothie King?

[Germ]

the hissy fit might be because NOBODY from FLORIDA seems to know how to read a RULER, or lower a car. or run 16's on a hot rod..

CALIFORNIA LOVE(tm)

[Germ]

ANd you NEWBIE queers, shouldnt worry about INTRO BUSTINGS...

Your all NEWBIES

[Fatchuk]

Goodboy Germ: I knew you wouldn't let me down.....your right I been a lurker for a while tryin to get to know these punky ass kids with 200 or 300 posts taking over the hamb....I'm kinda new and you used to scare the shit outa me with some of your posts...but I have come to realize you may be a bit off the wall but you know your shit ....and I have come to appreciate your wisdom, humor..and most of all your mecanical apptitude....but a lot of these punk ass dudes think they own the fuckin hamb... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gifand most of them don't know shit from putty...Fatchuk

[roadstar]

Newbies are cool. I always wanted to be a Newbie. Growing up I would hear talk of these Newbies and hope to be one some day. And now Germ has declaired us all Newbies and I couldn't be happier.

TODAY I AM A NEWBIE http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifI'm so HAPPY http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[fitzee]

Here is something that might help.

http://www.the-antidote.com/one/1chass01.htm#part1

I`s only a young wipper snapper on this site but some of the older post whores wish for you to have a intro before your welcomeand shit on you if you don`t.like a password or something.Don`t mind them too much,Thay shit on me as well as ever other poor baster that first came onto this site for the first time.Once you get to know them there not that bad. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

fitzee

[TexasHardcore]

I'm a punk ass kid with 200 or so posts....eat me. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


<---RULER

[Boones]

Germs got a groupie..... I would also be interested in the Model A dimensions so please post and intro (what your into, what car, gay or not, etc....) then ask the question again and you will probably get your answer...

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Intro? what freakin intro? I like to build shit myself. I like to go fast. Built and raced stockcars for about 10 years. Spent way too much money, tore up way too much shit, but learned a lot of stuff. Am in the process of building a '65 Galaxie that will replicate Ned Jarrett's stockcar, but for the street. I am also plannin on turnin my 100%, stock, restored, cherry Model A into a rod. No trailers here. Drive the sum-bitch. No lawn chair shows either. It doesn't matter what clothes you wear, what music you listen to, what freakin hairdo you have. It's all about the cars, MAN! Get over it.
Originally fron NorCal, but now live in Poway, CA., outside San Diego.

[Phil Stevens]

You tell em sunshine, go sick

[brutus t maximus]

oh for god sakes germ....

it was just last the other day you called me "gay",,, been working on accepting that,,, and now i am a "newbie"?

can't wait till next week!


smile germ, we all love ya!!!

bob

[Kinky6]

Fitzee - nice link; some good stuff on there.


Hey, Germ, if I wuz from Africa, would that make me a "Newbian"?


Sorry, I can't help it; its the tourette's syndrome....

Kinky6.

[DrJ]

Steve,welcome to the HAMB!

Some guys make up square tube frames or even round tube, and some insist a "traditional rod" have a modified stock frame.
If you're going to "Z" both ends check out Rogue's latest under construction rod. He's in your 'hood.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=UBB1&amp;Number=101844&amp;page=&amp;v iew=&amp;sb=5&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1&amp;vc=1

If you are just using the body off your Model A can I have the stocker chassis? I'd like a mildly souped stocker.

[D Picasso]

Am in the process of building a '65 Galaxie that will replicate Ned Jarrett's stockcar, but for the street.

really? the #11 Bondy Long car? neat! post pics, I wanna see.

don't sweat the abuse.

[Smokin Joe]

(CNN) -- The year was 1964, the day May 24 -- Memorial Day. It was early in the World 600 at Charlotte International Speedway, the seventh lap. Coming out of the backstretch into turn three, Glenn Roberts' "Passino Purple" No. 22 Ford Galaxie tangled first with Junior Johnson's car and then Ned Jarrett's before slamming into the wall in flames.

Jarrett scrambled out of his own burning car and pulled out the man known long before the horrific, blazing crash as "Fireball." Forty days later, on July 2, Roberts -- NASCAR's first true superstar -- was dead of his injuries.

Actually, Junior knocked Glenn out of the way to get by and into Ned.
Ned did good. Now if you were making Junior's car, I'd probably have to torch it!

Welcome to the HAMB.

[four-thirteen]

2x3 box tubing is traditional. Not everyone did the same thing to there cars back then. My frame on my A coupe is part boxed A-frame, part 2x3 tubing. Mines Z-ed in the cowl area, with a big 10" kickup in the rear to get it really low. Wheelbase is a bit longer. I widened it in the back too, to make more room for suspension stuff. I don't have any measurements for you, but it sounds like you've got enough know-how to figure that part out. I'm pretty sure 2x3 box ought to hold up to my 400 horse motor, and I added really beefy sub rails to the body when I channelled it. After its bolted together, I think she will be plenty strong. For crossmembers I've got: the stock front crossmember, a big beefy removable tranny mount, 2x2 tube at the absolute back of the frame, and the rear end welded to sold plates bolted to the frame. Dave

[Dreamweaver]

Check this out for frame buildin ideas.

Frame website (http://www.the-antidote.com/one/1chass01.htm)

[gears-n-grease]

dreamweaver- thanks for the site- very nice

[**DONOTDELETE**]

tanks to all of you who responded to my note on plans for a home-built model A frame. it's hard to believe there aren't any specific plans or mechanical drwaings out there. i thought there would be some blueprints or something on Zing the frame, the crossmembers and all the other stuff. i guess i'll have to kind of build it by eye and measure once and cut twice. maybe i'll get a look at someone's A at Bako next weekend?
sb

[plan9]

pick up the bishop/tardel book, "how to build a traditional hotrod ford"... it ranks #1 in my favorite books list.

http://www.motolit.com/howtobuiltra.html

[Toqwik]

I'll give you my opinion, FWIW. Fuck trying to build it like a model a freame. If ya do, the want to z it, you have to either change the entire rear setup around, or cut your subrails. The way I was gonna do mine was set my crossmember, get the measurement where it passes under the firewall, and run the rails STRAIGHT back. donot put that hokey original flair out that is in the orig A frame. This will make your life alot easier for rear end setup changes, Zing, or whatever. Kinda like the frame in this months R&amp;C. Good luck.....Scott

[**DONOTDELETE**]

now i see my faulty ways. i should have mentioned in my post that i wasn't looking for plans to build a home-built frame for my model A that would need to resemble the original frame. i am more interested in building a "custome-type" frame for the car, but in a "traditional" theme. actually, being without mucho dollars, i assumed the best way to go about would be to sell my original frame as a rolling unit complete with motor/trans and everything else. then, build my own frame the way i want it out of 2x3 or 2x4 square tube with the Z's in front and rear so i don't have to channel it. any more advice?
thanks to all HAMBers who have helped me out so far. i need to get plannin this thing.



she wants me to be true to her,
she comes home once a month,
her mustache caked with vomit,
and teeth marks on her butt.
sb

[C9]

Here's an option.

Not traditional, but, get a strong enough engine and nobody's gonna be picking on you....

[daddylama]

on a related note... was there any more than the odd few, who built tube chassis for rods in the 50's? I wouldnt imagine there were a lot of guys doin it, but there must have been some...