Cheater Slicks on a Driver

[beatnik]

I know a lot guys on here are running old school pie crust style cheater slicks.

I'd like to put these on a car thats going to get driven and most likely going to get caught in the rain. My experience with slicks and modern cheater slicks (ET Steets) is if it starts raining, you pull over and and wait for it to clear up http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif.

Does Hurst or anyone else make a pie crust style cheater slick with more than just two grooves down the tire, that might channel the water better and has anyone used them?

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/eCCStoreFront/smi/product_images/medium/91058630.jpg

[Tman]

Yes Hurst has grooved slicks. Thats what Ryan has. I have the one shown and have driven them in the rain. They are OK, you just drive like its winter/snow.

[Mojo]

I wonder if they have enough material to cut your own grooves... Weren't the old dirt track tires just grooved slicks?

[beatnik]

I got a quick look at Ryan's car at the HAMB drags. As low as his 38 is I didn't realize they where cheater slicks. The grooved pattern looked similar to a dirt track tire.

Thanks

[burndup]

What is the one in the picture? Who makes it? how much?

Thanks.

[beatnik]

Those are the ones from Speedway Motors.

Speedway Cheater Slicks (http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp/strBase_List./hilt./source.2192/base_no.91058630/str_base_no.91010309%2C91012085%2C91012900%2C91021 003%2C91031306%2C91032310%2C91034310%2D2%2C9105002 5%2C91058630%2C91061018%2C91064050%2C91064051%2C91 064052%2C91064053%2C91064054%2C91064056%2C91064102 %2C91067409%2C91067410%2C91067470%2C/header_title./page_name.prod%5Flist%5Fdisplay%2Easp/search_type.L2%7E495/search_option./deptsearch./dept_id./dept_id_p./dept_name./dept_name_p./ShowImages.yes/sq.20/cont.1/intPgNo.2/redirect./qx/product.htm)

I think Hurst makes them for Speedway $99 each

[John Copeland]

Look at the Radir web site, theirs are expensive but you can order them with additiional grooves. Their all slicker then owl shit in the rain, don't let anyone kid ya!

Shoe

[Paul]

it was a year ago yesterday that I totaled my truck in the rain, with DOT legal ET Streets, a modern "cheater slick" they were fine on a wet surface but when I hit standing water...

I am running cheaters (Radir) on the coupe, it's fenderless so I can't legaly run in the rain anyway.

Paul

[Tman]

The Speedway slicks are Hursts. Ron also offers grooved itres. The IS enough rubber to groove or sip the Speedway ones.

[Donzie]

Discount Tire, here locally, offers siping. My understanding is that to sipe a tire is to put more grooves in the tire, but crossways. They do it to get better traction in the winter. I don't think it's very expensive.
It seems to me someone on here had that done to a pair of cheater slicks.

[old beet]

In the 60s, was a tire store in Portland,Or., that would cross cut the tire (not groove) yer slicks. Looked like he used a razor blade about ever 3/8 of an inch, straight across the tire about 1/4 inch deep. VERY good traction in the rain! But wore out fast. I drove a 64 Vette from Portland to Seattle, rain both ways, with these tires, handled well at SPEED.......OLDBEET

[daddylama]

can always buy a tire groover and do the grooving yourself, too... any dirt track supplier has 'em...
i got one a few years ago for like $50. Crosshatch patterns work reasonably well in the rain. "reasonably" being the key word.

[2raticl]

You might also check Diamondback tires. I am running their slick on my '62 pontiac and haven't had much trouble, although I avoid the rain if possible.

[roadstar]

Hey Gus if you like doing doughnuts on the street in the rain get the ones with no grooves. My old roadster had a set of old capital slicks and one night I left a weekly gathering that encouraged drinking and I forgot all obout the slicks. Well it was raining and I pulled out onto the road about the same time I hit 2nd gear I was looking at the guy behind me THROUGHT THE WINDSHIELD. My buddy looks at me with this look like...What the F#$*$ were you thinking!!

Just thought a short story was in order http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Greezy]

You cant beat the Hurst on the price. The Radir slicks are quite a bit more because they are virgin tires where the Hurst's are caps. Surley you must know some dirt trackers around they could groove them for you.

[DrJ]

Dont forgit, balance them after you groove them cuz thre ain;t no way they will loose the same weight evenly all around. It just can't happen.! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[roadstar]

That is very good advice DrJ.

[BLAKE]

Like 2RATICL said, try Diamondback. I saw some on the gold '32 coupe at Pistons-n-Paint a few weeks back - the fella said he got them thru Diamondback and they were re-capped Michelins. Square-cut slick with a multiple zig-zag grooves molded in.

[beatnik]

I've run cheater style slicks on my cars for years. I did a lot of street racing and plenty of unintentional donuts.

I know I need some kinda of grooved version but on an open car I didn't want something that didn't look right. I need to look into the tire groover.

I think I've seen the Diamondback's. I think these are them:

[beatnik]

Here a better shot, are these Diamondbacks?

[Stoner]

I like them Diamondbacks. Where can you git 'em?

[BLAKE]

Those are the ones I was talkin' about.. on that gold coupe. Not in the Diamondback online catalog, but the fella said he got them there... keep in mind they're supposedly radials.

[Tman]

DrJ, you obviously are talking out of your ass here. We were balancing my cheaters and it just got worse and worse........OUNCES UPON ONCES OF weight. I told the guy to take all the weight off. I "SPIN BALANCED"TM them at about 4 grand http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. They run great at hiway speeds, no wobbles. Thats the thing about recaps, they are not very true.

[ray]

ain't got shit to do with shit...but at the junkyard the other day, while laying under an s-10 yanking the tranny, as i slide out i notice that one of the tires on the wheels the junkyard has welded into "stands" the truck is sitting on is a old dry rotted m&h piecrust slick. this in a late model junkyard!