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Luke Jivetalker
09-12-2003, 04:46 PM
Has anyone here got one? If so, what is your opinion on em? I'm trying to compare them to the Reprosteel bodies being made in Sweden, anything on either body would be helpful
Skip

Bruce Lancaster
09-12-2003, 04:59 PM
I have a bare Brookville sitting right behind a real B roadster in my garage(surrounded by claymores and Dobermen). I like the Brookville--it really does look right. I believe that the quarter panels, the most difficult piece, on all three current bodies--rod bods, Swedish, and BV-are all made by Brookville, but I'm not 100% sure. I think for me the main appeal of the Brookville is that the floor and insides are right. For many purposes, the modern construction bracing of the others would of course be irrelevant.

Luke Jivetalker
09-12-2003, 08:45 PM
AV8, C9, I know you guys have dealt with re-pop bodies before, anything I should know going into this?

C9
09-12-2003, 09:04 PM
Not sure which Deuce roadster you're going to build.
IE: full fendered, highboy etc.
Or if you have settled on a Deuce for sure.

Give a little thought to doing a 30-31 A on Deuce rails.
It's a whole lot cheaper. About half as far as body cost goes.
The A on 32 rails makes for a better looking car than the ever popular Deuce in my opinion.

I have a Brookville 30-31 A body on 32 rails and it's a quality piece in my opinion.
Course, I like aluminum and have been known to run glass and even drink Corona's with limes so there you go....

Anyway, it's my understanding the body parts to the Brookville A roadsters will interchange with a factory FoMoCo built Model A part with no problem.
Build techniques seem to be identical.
I hear the Deuce bodies are the same way.

One little story I heard making the Resto rounds was that some guys were pulling the bodies off their restored A's and installing a nicely painted Brookville body and fenders and winning best of show trophies.
At least they did until they were caught.

Last I heard there was a one year wait for a B'ville Deuce body and about four months for an A body.

Luke Jivetalker
09-12-2003, 09:11 PM
Jay, I've decided on the 32 body, it's for a spec project a buddy of mine and I are working on, I tried to talk him into an A body, but he's hellbent on the 32. Thanks for your input, it's a lot of money to spend and it's reassuring to hear from someone who has the knowledge you do, and also owns one!
Skip

hatch
09-12-2003, 09:19 PM
My roadster is a Brookville 30-31 on one of their 32 pinched hiboy chassis'. Very nice craftsmanship. I have been to the factory with fab32 and Brookville is a top notch deal....EVERYTHING they make is as good as it gets. I like the fact that they reproduce ford bodies exactly the way henry did them. And yes, parts do interchange with originals. When I was looking for a roadster body, I looked at a bare original and a bare brookville...after bumping and painting since 1975, I honestly couldn't tell any difference in the stampings.

C9
09-12-2003, 09:22 PM
Spec project.
I understand.
I got one of those.
Been driving it about ten years.
I think I'll be ready to let it go in about another ten years.... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tman
09-12-2003, 09:32 PM
Dont worry, talking to Luke in Chat I convinced him I was his father and he is letting me have said Duece http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

ABone312
09-12-2003, 09:47 PM
I have bodyworked and painted one of the Brookville 32 bodies, and worked on a couple. I have also worked on some original 32 roadster bodies, I would honestly take the Brookville over the original. The body took very little work to get straight and ready for paint. It also took very little to get the doors and decklid fitting right. If you are running a hood, I found original hood tops fit the body best. The repop tops I tried, the body line was about a quarter inch too low to line up. Hope this helps.

hatch
09-12-2003, 09:52 PM
When I did my model a, the character lines varied on sharpness and depth...the deuce bodies are much better stampings. Everything will need work (depending how fussy you are) no matter what you are building.

34Fordtk
09-12-2003, 09:57 PM
For what I have seen original bidies go for on Ebay I dont think the Brookville price is all that far out of line..what about $5000??? for a 28/9.And just think you wont have to hunt for doors or fix any rust!!!

Deuce Rails
09-12-2003, 11:04 PM
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I'm trying to compare them (Brookville) to the Reprosteel bodies being made in Sweden.

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Well, you can get the Reprosteel in kit form, which slashes the price in half.

Tman
09-12-2003, 11:22 PM
But with Reprosteel you get NO inner structure!!!??? Thats what I know, correct me if i am wrong.

Deuce Roadster
09-13-2003, 12:48 AM
[ QUOTE ]
...EVERYTHING they make is as good as it gets. I like the fact that they reproduce ford bodies exactly the way henry did them. And yes, parts do interchange with originals. When I was looking for a roadster body, I looked at a bare original and a bare brookville...after bumping and painting since 1975, I honestly couldn't tell any difference in the stampings.

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In my opinion .............Ray Charles can tell the difference between Brookville and original Henry Ford 32 roadsters. Model A's maybe the same.......Deuces NO.

The area around the rear passenger compartment has NO WOOD strip nor a place for it. Original 32 Ford Roadsters have a wood strip that the upholstery is tacked to. Wescott tupperware 32's have it also. On Brookville cars ......no such piece.

When I was at the LA Roadster Show with my roadster.......SoCal had their Brookville body set up dirrectly accross fom the RodBods 32 display and I could compare the two....then look at my Henry Ford original and make comparsions. The Brookville is very nice and is the closest reproduction in steel. The RodBods was way different inside the car (bracing and such) but was pretty nice also.


I have not seen the bodies from Sweden http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif


http://photo.starblvd.net/~DeuceRoadster/2-2-1.jpg

In the above photo ...you can see the area where the seat upholstery is tacked to the wooden strip. All stock 32's have it http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



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36-3window
09-13-2003, 01:15 AM
i used a brookville `30 body about 15 years ago and was not impressed by it,just about every panel needed some work,maybe they improved them by now. the roadster i built this year i used brookville's 32 body and was very impressed,the quality was excellent. the only thing i did notice was that both rear quarters were not identical. the driver's side was a little flat along the body line on the wheel well compared to the passenger side. i compared them to an origial body and the passengers side was correct. i then checked out two more brookville 32 bodies,and they were the same as mine,unidentical quarters! not real noticable,but if you stand about 5 feet in the back of the body so you can see both sides you will see it.

C9
09-13-2003, 01:26 AM
Deuce Roadster - Does the Brookville Deuce body have the rear of the cockpit set up to take the wood strip?
I did read your post and I understand there could be the flat area missing where the wood settles into, but is the rear cockpit rail cut away for the wood?

I think the wood strip is an aftermarket re-pro item available several places.

I note the Brookville body catalog shows an option for a steel deck former around the back of the cockpit similar to what's on my Brookville A body.
Fwiw - I like the steel former better than the wood strip although it would make it a little more difficult for the upholstery guy with a steel strip instead of a wood one if it was desired to wrap the seat upholstery over the rear of the cockpit.
Which is a more than good looking way to do it.

It does seem a little strange that the body would be missing some of the sheet metal where the wood strip goes, but I'm guessing that most opt for the steel former.

Deuce Roadster
09-13-2003, 01:37 AM
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There is NO PLACE in the Brookville body for the wooden strip. It is rounded (or curved over) on the Brookville. On a original 32 Ford Roadster from Henry.......it is raised with a flat top area (and holes every so often) and the body has a recessed hole on each quarter panel for the wood strip to fit into.

I also noticed the quarter panels being shallow but just thought it was my lying eyes. Also..........in a 2 or 3 year old catalog from SoCal......they list three different "DuVall style " windshields.

1) for Brookville
2) for Wescott
3) for original 32 Ford Roadster bodies.....

WHY ?
Because the cowls at not the same shape.


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Fat ASS Whitewalls
09-13-2003, 01:40 AM
A buddy of mine just took delivery of a Brookville 32 body. It's real nice, the only thing I see on his is the Brookville applied primer is peeling off. I could scrape it off with my fingernail.I'd order it bare steel if it was me. Check there web site, I thought you could order it with or without the wood tack strip, maybe I'm mistaken. Also you can get a Brookville in kit form, that's how SOCAL does some of theres. Dean

36-3window
09-13-2003, 01:40 AM
C9....the brookville 32 body doesn't have anything cut away from the rear cockpit sheetmetal....they just fill the notches on the sides of the rail where the ends of the wood fit in to

Deuce Roadster
09-13-2003, 01:51 AM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

http://www.brookville-roadster.com/mag_article/mag%20pics/bodysmall.jpg

I took this photo from the Brookville site.

See how the rear is rolled over. Not so on a original Deuce. Also there is no cutout area for the wood strip. It is a few inches to the rear of the top hinge piece on Henry's Deuce.



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Deuce Roadster
09-13-2003, 02:00 AM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


http://www.brookville-roadster.com/mag_article/mag%20artical%20pg1.htm


This is the link to Brookville site http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



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HOTRODPRIMER
09-13-2003, 09:06 AM
This is a photo of the area that takes the tack strip that Duece was talking about,,,,this is on a Wescott style 32 roadster. HRP

C9
09-13-2003, 09:34 AM
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C9....the brookville 32 body doesn't have anything cut away from the rear cockpit sheetmetal....they just fill the notches on the sides of the rail where the ends of the wood fit in to



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I see what you guys are talking about.
Both with Deuce Roadsters Brookville pic and HotRodPrimer's Wescott body pic.

I looked at my Wescott bodied 32 last night and it has the flat topped piece running around the back with the notches like HRP's pic.

I wonder if the aftermarket wood piece would work on the Brookville Deuce body if you cut the front corner undersides away so it laid flush on the sheet metal.

Laying the upholstery over the rear of the cockpit is a nice way to go.

On my 32 the tack strip proper is upholstered and top hold down snaps/pins whatever you want to call them are screwed into it, but the back cushion is all inside the car and can be easily removed as a unit.
The way I wanted it at the time, but it doesn't look as good as the rollover seat back.

Roadsters.com
09-13-2003, 01:20 PM
The quarter panels on the three new steel bodies mentioned in this thread are all different, and like all of the panels on all of these three bodies, are all made by that particular company. Of the three companies, none use any panels made by anyone else.

RodBods bodies use two-inch-longer doors, so their quarters are shorter. Brookville and Reprosteel quarters are similar, but the B-pillar (the rear of the door jamb) on the Brookville quarters are made like the originals. Reprosteel quarter panels are stronger, because they use one less piece than the originals did. This unretouched picture of a Reprosteel quarter panel shows how the door jamb is built into the front of the quarter panel, stamped all in one piece.

http://www.roadsters.com/rep-quar-f.jpg

Several people who know a great deal about '32 roadster bodies have told me that the Reprosteel quarter panels are the nicest reproduction '32 quarter panels that have ever been made.

As far as the wood tack strip to anchor the bottom of the roadster top, some of the Reprosteel bodies that we will start building here in Phoenix in October will have the tack strip installed to look like an original body, and I may have most of them built this way. After all, it's pretty hard to fasten the back of the top to the body without a tack strip.

As far as the availability of the Reprosteel body kits, when I called Lars Lundstrom a few days ago, he told me that he was going to ship me seven steel body kits, plus all of the floors and body panels that are back-ordered, and all three of the aluminum body kits that he has made so far, sending it all by air freight (which he got a good deal on). It's supposed to be here before the end of September. A month or so after that, a larger shipment of steel body kits will be arriving here.

Between running my business, working on my new shop, my roadster project, and my coupe project (and spending too many hours on eBay), I'm not here very often. If you have any questions about Reprosteel bodies, please phone me, and I'll be happy to help you.

Dave Mann
Roadsters.com
P.O. Box 5100
Phoenix, AZ 85010
(602) 233-8400
http://www.roadsters.com/

Edited to update mailing address

The Blownranger
09-13-2003, 06:45 PM
The primer on Brooksville is only to keep from rusting.
I washed mine off with lacquer thinner when I was ready
to finish the body.
JR..

The Blownranger
09-13-2003, 06:48 PM
Another thing,Brooksville is coming out with a `32 RPU
body.
JR...

Deuce Roadster
09-13-2003, 06:58 PM
http://www.wescottsauto.com/SiteGraphics/32Roadsterpage/32BodyPhotos/32roadst3pics.jpg

This is from the Wescott catalog.......


You can see the wooden tack strip.

I like them either way......... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The way that HotRodPrimer has his looks good. If you want to tack the upholstery......the original works GOOD.


Brookville and RodBods have good bodies. As does Wescott (and others).

I really do not care whose body someone uses..........just get one and get it on the road. I just love Roadstering. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



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Boones
09-13-2003, 07:11 PM
I like the stretched Abone RPU that they sell. (Only seen two in person, the blue one that Brizio did and a body only). I was leaning that way when I had the 32 chassis.

34Fordtk
09-13-2003, 10:06 PM
Wonder why they dont do a Coupe ...no one has ever said anything good about the (only??)repo. steel coupe around.Would the roadster body look right with a 3 window top on it???? Just thinkin out loud........

Fat ASS Whitewalls
09-14-2003, 12:02 AM
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Wonder why they dont do a Coupe ...no one has ever said anything good about the (only??)repo. steel coupe around.Would the roadster body look right with a 3 window top on it???? Just thinkin out loud........

[/ QUOTE ] Every panel on a 3 window is different than a roadster. The only steel top that would look right would be a 5 window top. The Deucesteel coupe body looks to be real nice. The price of it will keep it in the hands of the rich and famous. For a coupe I'd do glass. Dean

C9
09-14-2003, 12:03 AM
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I really do not care whose body someone uses..........just get one and get it on the road. I just love Roadstering.




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Yeah.

Here's where we went today for lunch.
Cool little 70 mile or so round trip run in the 32.

Pic taken from the deck over the river where they serve lunch.

Many Sweetie points gained....

Deuce Roadster
09-14-2003, 01:36 AM
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/image_uploads/74515-Mvc-203s.jpg

My fellow Roadster owner.......HotRodPrimer took this photo of the MRS. and I on one of our ROAD TRIPS. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

He and his MRS. were road tripping in their 32 Roadster too.


http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/image_uploads/74521-Mvc-201s.jpg

Check out the speedometer in HotRodPrimer's 32.

If you are not driving them.......there are just junk in the shed!!! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif




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klazurfer
09-14-2003, 05:38 AM
I`m from Norway ! Like 1 hour from Sweden !! I have a Brook`body , and a Friend of mine bought the "Reeprosteel" body .The Swedish body is in need of a LOT of Work , but my Brook will need very litle woork to be completed ( 10 Days of work , and you have a NEAT piece !!! . My friend who bought the Swedish "kit" Is Using my "Brook" - parts to figger out what his Parts should look like !!!!
You will get what you pay for!!!!

fab32
09-14-2003, 09:55 AM
have two Brookville bodies, one assembled and one unassembled. I bought the unassembled one when it was taking so long to get one of their production bodies ( the wait was 2 yrs when they first came out). I thought that by having an unassembled one my car would be done sooner, and from watching them go together at Brookville I knew with careful work we could assemble one here.
As with all good plans, I didn't have the time to assemble mine before my production body was finished ( I never canceled my assembled body when I got the unassembled one because at that time the wait was still over 1 1/2 years and people were paying a $1000 premium to get bodies if they didn't have to wait.
SOOOOOOOOOOO! After all this time I still have an unassembled one and a factory assembled one waiting for attemtion. In the meantime, I've managed to build my '32 frame jig (off origional Henry Ford '32 blueprints) and I have a finished frame with '33-'48 style X member with the X member located to take a 700R 4 and any other trans known to man. Most all the production '32 frames on the market with the small tube crossmembers and no X bracing can be twisted be two people putting a tortional motion to the frame. Just think what happens to a fiberglass body with that as a foundation, and a steel body will flex and crack in short order also. I think the only reason they get away with producing such crap is that these cars, for the most part, don't get driven very far and by the time problems show up the manufacturer simply doesn't give a damn about the customers problems. As long as I'm on my soap box I'll mention that HotRodDrummer's dad and he run Ionia Hot Rod Shop build the best looking nostalgia frame and by far the strongest i've ever seen, thiers doesn't flex. You can get ahold of them at 616-527-6051. I don't care whether anyone does or not, I'm just passing on information that I know would be helpful to someone who can't build a frame themselves and wants the best. It might cost a little more but isn't that usually the case when talking quality? The last time I checked a Lexus cost more than an Nova.
Damn, this is sounding like a rant and I didn't mean it to so we'll let this be it for now. As Germ would say:

Love,
Frank

C9
09-14-2003, 11:02 AM
Fab32, you've got a good point on the frame stiffness bit.

When I look at some of the frames pictured in the mag ads there's not a whole lot tying one side to the other.

My 32's Deuce Factory frame - with DF style crossmembers moved back 3" as compared to a SBC install - looked to be fairly solid and twist resistant.
Regardless, I added a 2 x 3" x .120 wall crossmember for the roll bar laterals and place for the seat belt connections. Welded in.
There's another bolt in 1 1/2" x .120 wall crossmember that bolts in. Used to hang the tailpipes on.
(The crossmember move back was done for the 455 Buick and T-400 install.)

It is quite stiff and there is no great degree of twisting or doors popping open when entering driveways at an angle.
In fact, you can't feel much movement at all between door and body when doing the driveway bit.

On my 31 on 32 rails roadster, I wanted a very stiff frame since it was destined for the dry lakes.
The crossmembers in that are 1 x 2" x .120 wall for the trans mount - with bolt-in dropout.
There are upper and lower crossmembers running transversely across the frame.
There are also 1 x 2" x .120 wall legs that go front and back of the crossmembers at an angle forming an X of sorts.
Behind the shorter rear X legs is a 1 x 2" x .120 wall crossmember as well as a 2 x 3" x .120 wall crossmember right behind that incorporates an oval driveshaft loop as part of the crossmember and these crossmembers run transversely.
On the back of this crossmember is the Chris Alston Chassis Works 4-link with it's 1 1/4" bars.
The rear legs of the X also are cut at two angles with one side being welded to the frame and the other to the 2 x 3" crossmember.
The frame is boxed with .120 as well.

There's some additional pieces in there as well, but all in all it's going to be one stiff frame.

The original thinking being I didn't want engine torque twisting it and creating a steering input.
Now, with the 31 slated for street use there shouldn't be any problems with frame twist.

And now that I've typed it all out, I found a pic of the 31's bare frame.

C9
09-14-2003, 11:09 AM
Just in case you're wondering what that one piece of 1 x 2" just behind the trans crossmembers and welded to the rear X legs is, it's where the forward half oval 1 x 2" driveshaft loop is hung.
The half loop is not installed in this pic.

hatch
09-14-2003, 09:13 PM
Just a side note...the family at Brookville bought more than one car to take measurements from when tooling up to do their body parts....none of the bodys had the same measurements, so Ray and Kenny averaged the specs.

If you ever get a chance to visit their facility, do it...you will be impressed (if you are a true car nut)

Eyeball
11-02-2006, 01:58 PM
Instead of starting a new thread I thought I would just add my question to this one.



I ordered a 32 body from Brookville with stock doors with the beads around the hinges, trunk, stock floor with the seat riser, cowl vent and steel front floor. Brookville is pushing me to add the deck former to it. I want the seat upholstery rolled over the top on the back and want to run a top that can be removed if I wish. Has anyone ordered a body without the deck former or does anyone have any pics of a stock body to compare it to? Of course I want the body to look as much like a Henry as possible but don’t want to have to cut up this area after I get it do to making the wrong choice.

deucehiboys
11-02-2006, 04:02 PM
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Wonder why they dont do a Coupe ...no one has ever said anything good about the (only??)repo. steel coupe around.Would the roadster body look right with a 3 window top on it???? Just thinkin out loud........

[/ QUOTE ] Every panel on a 3 window is different than a roadster. The only steel top that would look right would be a 5 window top. The Deucesteel coupe body looks to be real nice. The price of it will keep it in the hands of the rich and famous. For a coupe I'd do glass. DeanDoane Spencer roadster does not look too bad with a 3/window styled top ,Actually a 34 top but close..

krylon32
11-02-2006, 08:50 PM
I have assembled several Brookville deuce bodies and all of our customers have been very happy. We add extra bracing. I now have a local body shop do the work. I have used a tack strip from Labron Bonney and with a little fitting it worked fine. couldn't tell it wasn't original style when it was covered with upholstery. Also have done 1 deuce roadster PU and it was a good piece. We like assembling the bodies on the chassis as we can keep better control of the gaps.

captmetal
11-02-2006, 09:22 PM
rod bods is the way to go fit and finish is great, and the owners are noce met them a shows a few times , there real people. rod bods is the best

Harms Way
11-02-2006, 10:22 PM
Thought you guy's might get a kick out of this, I have had this for over 30 years, gave a copy to brookville when they were building the dies,...... this is a actual Ford blueprint.
http://littlejoe.ejourney.com/%7Eponcho/32%20quarter.jpg
you can see the recess for the wood tackstrip. this is only a portion of the print that is 3 X 7 feet.

roadstar
11-02-2006, 11:26 PM
I sure like mine:D

I plan on putting a folding top on it too.

Harms Way
11-02-2006, 11:48 PM
Well,......
I was going to let it go at that, but I think out of the company's making steel Deuce roadster bodies, Brookville is the best and closest to Ford (IMO), I am finishing up the chassis for the Louie Shell roadster that a friend of mine owns, he also just finished a brookville deuce, when they were side by side the bodies were like twins ( except for the recess for the wood tack strip, and a small dip and slightly miss shaped line in the "above the deck pannel" ), I coulden't see any problem with the cowl top, but that's not to say there wasen't one,... that was the pannel they had the most trouble with.
At the same time there was a Rod Bods body going together as a car at Frank's Antique in Birch Run,... the lines were not crisp, a little low and a little washed out. now remember this is all just my opinion.

http://littlejoe.ejourney.com/%7Eponcho/schell5.jpg
This is the body for the Louie Schell Deuce, if you look close you can see the recess for the tack strip and the Auburn dash.

http://littlejoe.ejourney.com/%7Eponcho/1%20Bill%20S%2032.jpg
This is the Brookville car on a Ford frame with brookville rear fenders, the body took a honest 10 hours of prep time ( mostly prime and block ) the front fenders sold by brookville but built by Funk were another story, the fenders didn't fit at the runningboards, I had to cut off the rear of the fenders and add a pie cut section, they were tight at the frame but off by about 5/16" at the outer edge. I hope this helps.

Eyeball
11-02-2006, 11:53 PM
So did you get the deck former or not?

NV rodr
11-03-2006, 12:17 AM
[quote=Roadsters.com]The quarter panels on the three new steel bodies mentioned in this thread are all different, and like all of the panels on all of these three bodies, are all made by that particular company. Of the three companies, none use any panels made by anyone else.

RodBods bodies use two-inch-longer doors, so their quarters are shorter.

This is not true. Rod Bod standard quarters are the same as stock length with stock doors. The stretched door option can be done two different ways: shortened quarter on stock frame or standard quarter panel with streched door on a stretched frame. Just thought you might want to know. Have built 3 roadsters using Rod Bods and only 1 Brookville. I personally would take the Rod Bod for fit and body bracing. Would take the Bville if looking original was a priority. Just my two cents.

ray
11-03-2006, 01:40 AM
it'd be interesting to know how the actual bodies compared to the blueprints dimensions.

i work in a toolroom that makes some stamping dies, no sheetmetal and nothing this large, we do small Ti parts, difficult in a whole other way, but my point is, i love reading about these bodies, and even the other steel repop bodies popping up, camaros, 57 chevy etc. it's amazing the technology available to these companies to engineer and build the dies to repop these. oddly enough, much of the thanks go to downturns in the economy, OEM suppliers invest fortunes into the latest cutting edge measuring and manufacturing machines, only to have the demand from the automakers dry up and go overseas, leaving very expensive machines sitting, begging for work, discounting machine rates to the point it becomes affordable to make such low volume parts.

what really amazes me more though, than the effort going into repopping these bodies, is the effort that went into them back in the 30s. it had to take literally hundreds of man hours to create each of the major dies for the 32 fords. back then it had to be accomplished by manual machining, roughing it to the approximate shape, then countless hours of hand filing, checking, more filing, on and on, then once it's close, hand lapping and polishing with progressivly finer grits until it's to the final shape. now it's a few hours of keyboarding and then let the CNC machine do all the dirty work. it's bad enough now when an engineer makes a mistake, and we in the shop get pissy cause we wasted a day of machine time, i couldn't imagine how pissed a toolmaker in 1931 would feel when told he has to remake a die that he just spent a month on! close to print? close enough then!

Thought you guy's might get a kick out of this, I have had this for over 30 years, gave a copy to brookville when they were building the dies,...... this is a actual Ford blueprint.
http://littlejoe.ejourney.com/%7Eponcho/32%20quarter.jpg
you can see the recess for the wood tackstrip. this is only a portion of the print that is 3 X 7 feet.

Cyclone Kevin
11-03-2006, 04:14 AM
So I went to all of this trouble to type up a cool lil opinion of where I stood on this subject & it just went away, Don't cha just love these writing boxes?????
I have a 1/2 real 1/2 Brookville 32 Roadster. I think it's tits & is the next best thing next to sliced bread! I admire Ray Kenny & Chuck for taking the chance to produce this body and giving us as Hot Rodders an alternative to glass as well as other metal constructed versions of the deuce.
Mine was built from the doors back by them, I ordered up a body @ the 2k2 LARS, I put a small down as required, within the month they had the balance, Since I had bought the gennie cowl w/vent retained(which was meticulously metal finished inside & out) through a mutual friend, it was sent straight the Brookville along with a pair of good but unmatching doors.(they went back) I had #366 assigned to be delivered by LARS 2k3. but since they weren't building a Brookville body but merely attatching their doors on back to this cowl I forgave the #, I thought-Cool! It will move the delivery date up (which it did by 6mos) I had opted to not have the deck former option on the rear of my passenger compartment, Well the back of the body was already now a part of the front & I said "what the hey?" they sent the tack strip along with it, as well as a 2"chopped windsheild frame & posts, a metal floor which I ended up going with a original style wood one.

This body has been on 2 different original chassis and on both of them it fit just right! The deck former option doesn't bother me all that much, In fact I think that it cures that lil inherent cracking problen that devleopes there.
Would I buy another one=Hell yes! in a heart beat! I wish that I could afford the 3W That is just making its way out the doors! To me that sucker is "spot on!"
I am proud to run our companies name on the decklid and am extremely proud that Tom Fritz did not 1 but 2 paintings of this car.(see current Hop Up inside cover) & that bought Bob Drake bought the rights to use one of those paintings on his future catalog cover.

These cars are made to be having fun! That's precisely what I'm doing with my Cyclone 50/50 special! "Havin Fun As Usual".

Deuce Rails
11-03-2006, 08:11 AM
The primer on Brooksville is only to keep from rusting.
I washed mine off with lacquer thinner when I was ready
to finish the body.
JR..

Is this still the way the bodies are delivered?

emiliedk
11-03-2006, 04:17 PM
I HAVE A SWEDISH BODY. IT CAME ASSEMBLED FROM WWW.JOCAR.SE AND I HAVE TO SAY IT FITS THE STOCK CHASSIS PERFECT. THE DOORS OPENS LIKE A NEW CAR.
I'M A HAPPY OWNER
PALLE

jakespeed
05-25-2007, 12:40 AM
I work in a Hot Rod shop and we have used several Brookville bodies with much success and they are the closest to original, If I had to pick a fault it would be the lazy body bead, not as sharp as a genie body and we always add a body support from side to side to eliminate the door bounce when you close it, but we add that to the genie bodies also. You can get the body with or without the rear wood.

lehr
05-25-2007, 07:56 AM
I done two brookville bodys one is on the cover of the current Street rodder the other is waiting for a photo shoot with rod and custom . They both needed a ton of work. The Ionia hot rod shop I had to cut throught the door jam in the door and quarter panel and move the them both out about 3/8ths of an inch because quarter panel was flat at the top as was the door. The doors on both cars had to be hammered out so far to line up with the quarter panels that I had to reweld them to the door frames. There are flat spots behind both door hinges and on the passenger side in the wheel opening reveal there is a big dip also there are low spots around the cowl vent. Thats the big stuff the small stuff is the the general body work. With that said its still a nice clean piece of steel. Ps the 28/29s Ive seen are even worse. Pat

jusjunk
05-25-2007, 08:22 AM
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A little off topic maybe but i have a gibbon body and i pulled the wood from it and glassed in where the ends recess in the body. I dont care for the wood. My preference. I wish i could afford a bville 32 body!
Dave

Oldschoolhotrods
05-25-2007, 10:04 AM
have built 2 so far, minor differences, best bang for your buck if you want a duece roadster, almost like cheating...