wtf is this BODY?? HELP!

[briggs&strattonChev]

Hey guys, my dad bought this t-bucket (or so we thought it was a T) a few years ago and is just getting around to workin on it (been buildin a few others between). I was looking at it and I realized it isnt a ford. WTF IS it? There are no body lines or anything, and it has a reasonably long cowl (front to back). Got the windshield frame so maybe its the original so someone would recognize? From what ive reasoned, it was a 4 door touring model that was shortened by cutting the rear door section out and putting the back piece onto the former door pillar. Ill get some pics up (hopefully).

Please help
Briggs

[briggs&strattonChev]

exhibit A

[2tall2beahotrodder]

Dont see pics,,, but maybe its a dodge?

[briggs&strattonChev]

exhibit B

[briggs&strattonChev]

exhibit C

[Germ]

I don't know but you BETTER send the STEERING wheel back to the "A-TEAM" van before MR T ass RAPES you.....

email SETZER.... he will know

[Tim]

thats preety square, it isnt home made is it?

[Crestliner]

I think the windshield is like the one I have in the classifieds. I don't know what it fits either.

[Levis Classic]

GERM is back - HOLY SHIT!

[BenD]

I think it's too square for a Mopar, I'd guess Studebaker, or something along those lines.

[briggs&strattonChev]

1. These look like some sorta hinge pockets that were for the second set of doors

2. From this line and back (where it squares off) seems to be homeade but still looks good and its painted already so I cant sand it to check for filler and welds.

[Germ]

Its a FOUR DOOR someone shortened but its not a DODGE...

I called BA BARACUSS to come GET the WHEEL back,,, he'ssending FACE

[Fat Hack]

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[CURIOUS RASH]

<font color="green">Maybe it started life as an Essex? They are pretty square cars. </font>

[Sam F.]

where's howling mad murdock and templeton peck...

[shoebox72]

Hey, Did'nt TWEETY BIRDs grandmother drive that car?

Billy

[GRADY]

Man things sure are funny now that Germ is back...

[Mojo]

When you think about the 1000+ auto manufacturers prior to 1930... god only knows what that could be, and it could literally be one of a kind....

[CURIOUS RASH]

<font color="green"> Maybe it's a Henweigh? </font>

[choprods]

this is a 26 Dodge touring/RPU-its not the same,cowl is rounder I think

[hotrod54chevy]

that steering wheel is EXACTLY the same as the one that was on my chevy when i got it.it's a grant wheel and quite a piece of junk.get it off of there quick!
~Creepy

[briggs&strattonChev]

haha the grant wheel isnt staying, it was just there when we got it so it works to roll it around

[C9]

Fairly sure it's a 25-26 Dodge.
The key is the windshield as well as the long cowl.

Did you get the original frame with it?
They weren't straight like the Fords, they were curved out to fit the bottom contour - as viewed from above - of the body.
If I remember right, the frame was factory boxed as well.

Some of the Oz guys may chime in here.
I understand that Dodge "T-Bucket" style roadsters were very popular in Australia.

I had some 35mm prints of a 25 Dodge roadster body and frame that a friend owned, but they're packed away.
Seems like it had the bracing inside the cockpit as you show with yours.

[CURIOUS RASH]

<font color="green">The windshield shape is a good point.
Not an Essex. </font>

[briggs&strattonChev]

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Did you get the original frame with it?

[/ QUOTE ]

nope, this is a 2X3 steel frame with a rear step. GM 12 bolt posi and 60's chevy truck rear suspension and a dodge frontend/axle

[kyle paul]

well for sure it was a touring at one time .but it aint a eary dodge i have a 16 touring with the rear choped off and its way rounder and shorter than that.

[manyolcars]

Sorry, C9 but its not a 26 Dodge. I bought a 26 Dodge woodie wagon yesterday and my firewall ribs are a circle with radianting ribs.

[thirtytwo]

its not dodge but i think the windshild is early dodge i cant get a good enough look at it

[Jojo]

Well I think I can help with what it is not. Here's a photo of my '23 dodge roadster cowl. I think the windshield frame looks similar, but the rest of your car looks way to square to be a dodge of that period. Good luck.

[Jojo]

Ouch, that photo didn't work well. Let's try again.

[fastcat]

I just looked through a book of cars and it is hard to tell because most of the pics are from old car ads but some possibilities that look somwhat close are oldsmobile, kleiber,maxwell, moon, studebaker,velie like I said it is hard to tell from the old pics but perhaps you can find some better ones online somewhere. Shawn

[Junkyard Dog 32]

Put me down for '23 Buick.


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[Humboldt Cat]

I was thinkin' Buick, too- I've seen one around town, hadn't known they made them that early, but somehow the "Buick" print on the tailgate told all. The cowl looked as long in the front. Buick's my guess. What a fun lookin' project, either way.

[Machinos]

I google-image-searched a ton of cars from the 20's and I really think it's a Dodge. The firewall doesn't seem to match, but the shape of the cowl is only even close on a 24-26 etc. Dodge Bros. All other makes have a much rounder cowl, or sometimes even a peaked cowl.

Example of a 24 Dodge: http://www.yocc.org/images/dodge24.jpg

[JamesG]

A 22 Willy's?................

http://www.racingjunk.com/images/uploaded/6/7/1077580156967.jpg

[manyolcars]

[ QUOTE ]
I google-image-searched a ton of cars from the 20's and I really think it's a Dodge. The firewall doesn't seem to match, but the shape of the cowl is only even close on a 24-26 etc. Dodge Bros. All other makes have a much rounder cowl, or sometimes even a peaked cowl.

Example of a 24 Dodge: <a href="dodgehttp://www.yocc.org/images/dodge24.jpg (http://www.yocc.org/images/dodge24.jpg)" target="_blank">dodgehttp://www.yocc.org/images/dodge24.jpg[/url]</a>

[/ QUOTE ] look at the ribs on the firewall. it aint a dodge

[Deyomatic]

Isn't it possible that this is a firewall from something else? Being a hot rod, maybe he had some oddball 1920 something firewall lying around and acquired this body, whatever it is, and used them together.
Think about how many people there are that use Wheel Barrows as firewalls. This might be a home made firewall, or something from one of those companies that never had a chance. There were alot of them. This might even be one of those bodies.

[Plowboy]

I pity da foo who don't like my steerin' wheel!
....I pity Him!

[fancyboy]

Its a Stude

[InPrimer]

heres a 22 Dodge (from Carnut)the bottom of the stantions(sp) look the same or at least close

[gonowhere]

[ QUOTE ]
I don't know but you BETTER send the STEERING wheel back to the "A-TEAM" van before MR T ass RAPES you.....

email SETZER.... he will know

[/ QUOTE ]hahahahaha

[Satinblack]

I didnt think you could get much squarer then a mopar, damn thats square! Maybe its a boxster, LOL JK

[overspray]

It is a 1922-4 Overland touring (front half). I bought one for my yard display. Overland later merged with Willys-Knight and later became Willys. The windsheild posts are strong and anchor to the subframe. The doors have hidden hinges. There must have been a big dealer for these Overlands here in the south central part of North Dakota or North central South Dakota because I've found a lot of them in the area. A couple years ago I was at an auction in Mobridge, So. Dak. and there were 8 or 10 of these bodies at the sale. Several "old" car guys all said they were Overlands. I later found good pictures of the body and firewall which matched the one I have. overspray <font color="red"> </font> http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif <font color="red"> </font> <font color="red"> </font> <font color="red"> </font>

[burndup]

Its a 1911 Chevelle. very rare, lucky you!