The All Inclusive Model Thread......kinda O/T

[Ayers Garage]

I also am a modeler.After seeing some of the posts lately, I'm coming out of the closet.

I thought I would start this thread where all of the modelers can post without cluttering up the board with tons of different threads.

So guys, post tech tips or questions or pictures or whatever.

My question is, where can I order up aftermarket detailing accesories for my models? Things like wires and hoses and such. There are no bookstores around here that carry model magazines, so I'm lost.

Also, is there a decent modeler forum around? I've searched and not really found anything that great.

Ryan, I'm sorry, if this pisses you off, delete it and slap my ass. I don't mean to clutter up your board with O/T crap, but I figured one big thread is better than lots of seperate ones.

[Anderson]

Models were shown in Rod and Custom so I count them as traditional.

There's a decent forum (a lot of good people, a lot of advice) on the message board at www.modelcarkits.com. (http://www.modelcarkits.com.) It's sorta hard to follow because it's just a list and things move down the page very very quickly. Just click on the settings and choose reverse compressed listing, it's the easiest to read.

As far as aftermarket stuff, here's a couple links. The first one has a lot of parts from a lot of different companies, and the second has a lot of links to companies websites:

http://www.scaledreams.com/
http://www.socalcarculture.com/modelcarlinks.html

And here's a link to an album of some stuff I've been working on. Don't be scared by the untraditional stuff!!

http://public.fotki.com/EricAnderson/models/

[gowjobs]

Since this is the all-inclusive model thread, and it's on the HAMB, I figure I can ask opinions and nobody'll hold back:

As a modelbuilder, what trad-style parts and accessories would you like to see produced by the resin aftermarket?

Would you like a '37 Ford truck grill shell modified for use on a '34 Ford?

Would a pre-Z-ed Deuce frame help you out?

Is there a certain trad wheel/tire combo you can't ever seem to find?

I do work with a resin-caster and I'm wondering what projects there is real demand for.

Dave

[Fat Hack]

All of the above, Dave! http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I'd like to see 36 Ford wires added to the aftermarket wheel line-up, as well as:

Stromberg carbs
Holley 94 carbs
Rochester two barrel carbs
4 and 6 carb intakes for popular trad motors
chopped 'oddball' grille shells (Mopars, Buicks, ?? of the 30s)

[gowjobs]

You know, we could just do like a resin "parts pack" - six grille shells and some inserts in one package, mebbe twelve carbs and three intakes in another... even better, a "universal log manifold" kit.

I was thinking about modifying an old Johan Cadillac ambulance kit I have and mastering a Cargoyle resin conversion body, but Barris would probably sic the lawyers on me since he's co-opted that car for his own promotional purposes.

Guide or Edmunds headlights, anyone?

Dave

[Anderson]

Hell yeah...E&J's, guides...wheels. I love the wheels from the ala kart kit. The rear wheels are perfect chrome reverses. Custom grills like '47 cad and '57 cad bumpers. Whippet grill shells. Some headers maybe? Definately any dropped axles, split wishbones, model T and A springs...steering wheels! '60 Olds, those finky square Chrysler ones...stuff like that.

[Ayers Garage]

Hack, Model Car Garage sells Strombergs. They look like good ones too. I'll try to post a picture I found of them.

http://www.hrmodeler.com/rinus/reviews/woody/images/carbs-met-lucifer.JPG

[JamesG]

You know, I emailed Rod and Custom about them taking the model section out and they never responded. I thought it was kinda crappy to take that out of the mag when so many guys like us got their start with models....oh wel!

I am really for this thread! Heres something I'v been working on....Feel free to give any criticism

[JamesG]

One more...

[Anderson]

Those wheels and tires are all wrong for that sedan...take em off and send them to me. Just kidding...but that "Rat Rod" wheel/tire combo NEEDS to be sold seperately of those kits, I love them. The sedan looks good, are you gonna fill in the rear wheelwells?

Here's one I've been working on...I call it "Stargazer"

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/ericskars/models/stargazer1.JPG

[gowjobs]

Stargazer... now THAT is cool.

[JamesG]

Yea I'm going to fill the wells. I'm taking them off of the 29 rodster I bought.

[Church]

While everyone is asking questions, I might as well throw in mine. It's for die cast customizing, but I think it still applies. I want to change the nose of a front engine dragster to match a car my old man used drive. What do I use? And can I get water decals made somewhere? I can do all the artwork for the digital file and make chromatechs if need be, but I thought I'd ask. Thanks in advance.

[gowjobs]

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It's for die cast customizing, but I think it still applies. I want to change the nose of a front engine dragster to match a car my old man used drive. What do I use?

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It depends how much re-shaping you need to do... lots of guys just use bondo, or if you have more structural stuff, JB Weld.

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And can I get water decals made somewhere? I can do all the artwork for the digital file and make chromatechs if need be, but I thought I'd ask.

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You can buy decal film in clear or white stock that can be printed with a laser or inkjet printer, then sprayed with a clear fixative spray. Some times they can develop little cracks over tighter bends, but those can be covered up with a little dab of similarly colored paint.

Another option is to contact Dan at Slippery Arts. He'll custom print decals on an Alps printer, which means he can print white and metallic inks on clear decal stock if you need it. Email him at slippery_arts@yahoo.com for more info. He also produces reproductions of old showrod decal sheets which you can purchase through the "Decal Digs" storefront at Dave's Showrod Rally (http://showrods.com)

[mikes51]

For doing diecast body mods, I mainly use epoxy to glue back on chopped tops, etc. Then lightweight bondo for any filler. Some of the die casts seem to be powder coated, very slippery. I sand those down to get some tooth for the bondo.



I used those ink jet decals Gowjobs mentioned on this Ford.
I drew the design in Illustrator, then just printed them out. I ordered the starter kit from Micro Mark which included the spray clear rattle can.

[mikes51]

front view

[JamesG]

I just remebered Wal-Mart, in the model car section, has a decal making kit.You might have to rty a few different stores but they carry it. I think it's new.....

Oh yea, heres a kool site I found....

customclinic (http://www.customclinic.com/)

[whodaky]

I use JB weld for all my diecast work these days.

[gowjobs]

I've got a trad model project in the works: here are some pics:
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat4.jpg
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat5.jpg
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat6.jpg
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat8.jpg
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat9.jpg
Keep in mind, this thing has a long way to go, and I'm really having to scratchbuild all kinds of stuff: this thing is 1:8 scale and about 18" long.

[Brootal]

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Also, is there a decent modeler forum around? I've searched and not really found anything that great.


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Every time someone asks I post this link to a really good, but poorly utilised modelling forum.

Go to http://www.mas-parts.com and click on the "Forum" link. I've posted a couple of times on there but not many people use it.

I reckon we can overrun it and make it a HAMB Modelling forum. At least it will take some of the load off Ryan.

...and no, I have nothing to do with the site. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Chopped50Ford]

those are dope ass models. I have always enjoyed them, but between my full size project...there no time...

Thanks for sharing and post more on that roadster, thats bad to the bone.

I cant imagine the work being easy...at all...

Nicely done http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[thatredcaroutside]

The roof was crushed and missing on this Pontiac. I took the roof off a 53 Chevy Hardtop,pie cut the roof to make the B pillars fit.http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v325/dragfrog23/ebay_04a_007.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v325/dragfrog23/ebay_04a_004.jpg

[Mojo]

Gowjobs, that is friggin awesome! That looks like the Lindberg Red Rod... is that what it's based on? I really like your ideas on spring placement, looks really good. I pretty much only build 1/8th scale cars myself... much easier to work with than 1/25, but not much subject matter it seems. Are you familiar with Big Scale Modelers (http://www.bigscalemodelers.com) ? Very good site, they have a great picture archieve too.

[Anderson]

Gowjobs, that T is cool!!

A teaser of the recently re-released (with more badass parts!) 1:8th Big Deuce kit I'm working on...no more untill it's finished...it will rule you.

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/ericskars/models/BDchassis1.JPG

[4t64rd]

Maybe I'm just not thinking hard enough, but has there ever been a 1:25 scale 27 T roadster model kit?

[Anderson]

there was a '27/'28 T touring model. You could make a modified out of it...no roadsters though.

ooh, just remembered...there is a resin roadster, I wonder if you could just buy the main body for it.

At the top of this page...

http://www.perrysresin.com/catalog/catstreetrods.htm

[thatredcaroutside]

check under 26 T or Green Hornet on ebay.There are some other kits too. One of the kits came with a PU bed or a turtle deck option. I have some T bodies and pieces laying around in the basement if your interested. I only have about 500 models, but I'm not into them real heavy right now.

[Anderson]

I'd be happy to take about 100 of those off your hands since they're probably just taking up space http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Brootal]

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Gowjobs, that T is cool!!

A teaser of the recently re-released (with more badass parts!) 1:8th Big Deuce kit I'm working on...no more untill it's finished...it will rule you.

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/ericskars/models/BDchassis1.JPG

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Fuck!!! I'm just hanging for them to reach Australia. I've tried 3 or 4 different shops and no one's got them yet. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Might have to get 3 of them I think...

[Mojo]

Here's a few of my 1/8th scale projects. I guess only one is on topic (traditional?), but thought you guys would maybe like to see the other two.

http://www.elegant-insanity.com/ching/models/T-B-S.jpg
T-bucket, it's got a potvin-mounted style blower, transaxle in the rear, going to be built mid-60's style showcar.

http://www.elegant-insanity.com/ching/models/65%20Vette%20Dragster%20model%202%20cropped.jpg
Twin-engine 65 Vette bodied dragster. No top, the open area in the center is going to be filled.

http://www.elegant-insanity.com/ching/models/primer%20nose%20fullview%20tires.jpg
71 Trans-Am, converted from a 80. All the white areas are new plastic, the frontend is carved balsa wood that i'm going to pull a mold from.

I haven't been building for quite a few months now... I really need to get back into it, but my welding/cutting torch (read soldering iron) burnt out, so it's hard to get major welding done... http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Anderson]

I've seen your 'Vette and fire chicken before...maybe on the Hobby Heaven board? Thats very cool stuff. Your early second gen conversion is looking awesome, and that T is nuts. I'd be hard pressed to get that to work in smaller scale. Was it hard finding all those parts?

[thatredcaroutside]

Those are nice.
I don't have many for sale, but I'm putting a bunch on ebay this weekend.65 Coronet and Cuda(promo),67 Mustang(promo),Resin S10 Blazer,64 Tbird Conv., 65 El camino and station wagon + more.
The only one I'm working on is a Pro Street 66 Ford PU thats a copy of a friends, for him. It's a diecast body, I milled out about a pound of metal.
I have some Pro Mod 41 Willys resin bodies I cast.

[Mojo]

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I've seen your 'Vette and fire chicken before...maybe on the Hobby Heaven board? Thats very cool stuff. Your early second gen conversion is looking awesome, and that T is nuts. I'd be hard pressed to get that to work in smaller scale. Was it hard finding all those parts?

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Yep, Hobby Heaven! I've been watching your Deuce buildup on there eagerly, it looks amazing. I have one coming in the next two weeks, i'm really looking forward to getting it.

The parts for the T were some of the first 1/8th scale stuff I found. I was talking to a buddy of mine, mentioned looking for the big scale stuff, and he tells me he has this broken trike model with either a VW or corvair motor in the back, and I can have it. Man, that must have been 15 years ago. It's a Revell item, called "Dragon Trike" I think. The "Red Demon T" was the very first thing I bought on Ebay, about 4 years ago. Got it for $15, and it came with the Monogram 283 motor kit as a hidden bonus! The whitewalls and wires are stock for the kit, it also has a sweet track nose if you're ever looking for one.

The vette dragster is the Lindberg "Exterminator" kit, i'm replacing the Y-Block engines with SBC's. The chassis is pretty much stock. I've came a way since the pics, i've welded the hood and headlight covers in place, and made the filler for the sides. I haad joined the front and rear, but I didn't have that coke bottle shape, so I cut it back apart for now.

That poor trans am... it's been on the back burner for a while now. I've puttied the body, but that's about it. I really, really need to get going on it, it still has quite a way to go.

Big scale is fun, I really enjoy it more than the smaller scales. I'm sure you'd agree, judging from your deuce project!

[Aushotrods]

This is somethin I've been stuffin around with for about two weeks, it was the Lil John Butera sedan delviery kit. I dont really know why i bought the frigen thing, but i love chopped T's so, well here it is! As soon as i bought it, i chopped it until i thought it looked good, at first i was going to have a radical chop, but settled with this.
The kit in its standard form is a bit too hi tech with its jag arse end and billet front, but will have to do as I dont have any spares!
The pic shown is how the rear will sit as i have stepped the chassis (looks to be about 3/4 foot in scale!, but the front isnt finished in this photo. Instead of using the kit 289, i built the blown Caddy out of the '59 Chevy El Camino kit which looks awesome.
Excuse the 'paint', It is just black texta. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
I ain't no professional model builder, Hell im only 16 and have been attempting the model car thing for about a year.
What do ya'll think?

[bustingear]

Ayone one have any breath mints?

[thatredcaroutside]

The T sedan has great proportions. I like it.

[Tcoupe]

Here is something I've been working on. Mostly scratchbuilt 1/25 murdercycle....my biggest obsticle on this one is the engine...I have a cheesy diecast panhead from a toy that might work....anyone got some of those Revell parts packs Harleys layin around?

[cornfieldrodder]

Tcoup, you built the frame without the mill?!! Oh well, its just plastic. Those Ford F150/ Harley kits are on Ebay often. So are the parts pack bikes and the Monogram Cherry Bomb kits. Another good place for 1/24 mills would be those Miasto bikes from (insert you favorite dicount toy supply)
I have a couple of them for bobber projects when the temps hit -20 degrees this winter

[Anderson]

Something I've been working on...

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/ericskars/models/uhhh.JPG

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/ericskars/models/uhhh2.JPG

[Sailor]

Lots of cool stuff here. Mikes recreation of The Maze rocks in my book. One have to see the original to understand how neat it is.

[mikes51]

Thanks Sailor. I recently met Jerry (the builder of the Maze) and got this pic.

[Tcoupe]

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Tcoup, you built the frame without the mill?!!

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Actually I built it around one of the Miasto engines...but I just dont like the shallow detail of it, I search ebay often for the parts packs and never seem to find em http://www.jalopyjournal.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[thatredcaroutside]

Here's one I started in 1987 and have never finished. The diecast 66 ford PU is next to it.
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v325/dragfrog23/model_37_bham.jpg

[Tall Paul]

K&R that big deuce is neat!!! I've also been watching it on the hobby heaven message board. Wish I had my bloody models out of storage so I could post a pic of them..oh well...
There is another model car message board at the scale auto mag web site if anyone is interested...

Paul

[gowjobs]

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Gowjobs, that T is cool!!

A teaser of the recently re-released (with more badass parts!) 1:8th Big Deuce kit I'm working on...no more untill it's finished...it will rule you.


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Yeah, I've been following your buildup. I've been especially interested in your K-member construction since I was considering the same mods to the frame of my Big Deuce when I build mine (planning to go with a deep channel, whitewall slicks and maybe some kind of blower on top of that pretty new flathead. I'm trying to convince my resin-casting buddy to build a set of Arduns for that block.

Dave

[gowjobs]

Hey guys,

"Finished" the Big Red Rat. Stuff to look for:
Name of the car on the dash, real hardware fastening the rear spring to the perch and the wheel discs, and the skull and cross-wrench in the sectioned deuce shell that's still sporting fresh welds and the swap-meet price in that ever-present yellow paint.
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat22.jpg
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat20.jpg
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat23.jpg
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat24.jpg
http://graveyard.realmofshadows.net/mistaya/rodstuff/bigrat25.jpg

[Anderson]

That is REALLY fuckin cool man. Very nice job!!!!!!!!

Edit: where did that flex hose for the radiator come from?

[gowjobs]

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Edit: where did that flex hose for the radiator come from?

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That's a kit piece that I added end fittings to using K&S aluminum tubing. It's painted flat black and I dry-brushed it with a light dusting of flat white to give it a more "used" appearance.